Lebron did not make a single player on Miami better

[JohnMax]

How is he supposed to make Cleveland players better?

[tmacattack33]

I don't know, it is interesting that James Jones, Mike Miller, and Ray Allen all are thinking about joining Cleveland though, to play with this guy who doesn't even make them better.

[GimmeThat]

How is he supposed to make Cleveland players better?

telling younger players really bad stories about how to get better.

[FatComputerNerd]

Obvious troll thread, but there is one thing I've been thinking lately.

Kyrie in his first season and a half was pretty much unstoppable. We could give him the ball in the closing seconds, he would produce 9 times out of ten, and earned the nickname Mr. 4th quarter.

Finally the rest of the league took notice, and adjusted. Ever since then, it seems as if he is smothered every time he gets the ball. He was being double and even triple-teamed constantly, and with few other good scorers around him there was not much he could do.

Add Lebron into the equation and do the math. They cant double/triple team both of them...someone is gonna be open.

[hawke812]

How is he supposed to make Cleveland players better?

Breh, just stop. He has established himself as a champion. Two rings. Without him, zero rings.

This myth of making others better is stupid. He can't make anyone else play better. They have to do it themselves.

[JohnMax]

I don't know, it is interesting that James Jones, Mike Miller, and Ray Allen all are thinking about joining Cleveland though, to play with this guy who doesn't even make them better.

spot up shooters

[imdaman99]

I don't know, it is interesting that James Jones, Mike Miller, and Ray Allen all are thinking about joining Cleveland though, to play with this guy who doesn't even make them better.
They are branstans just like you. I am pretty sure you would follow him to the bathroom if you know you could get an easy million.

[FatComputerNerd]

We saw flashes in last years all-star game of how well Kyrie and Lebron can play together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlr0KZ3OWQw&t=1m53s

[choppermagic]

I don't know, it is interesting that James Jones, Mike Miller, and Ray Allen all are thinking about joining Cleveland though, to play with this guy who doesn't even make them better.

They want to ride his coattails so they can do LESS, while still having the chance to get to the Finals. Not better.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

I don't know, it is interesting that James Jones, Mike Miller, and Ray Allen all are thinking about joining Cleveland though, to play with this guy who doesn't even make them better.

If Lebron made them better then shouldn't they be cashing in on big money contracts right about now and not chasing minimum level contracts?

[pegasus]

If Lebron made them better then shouldn't they be cashing in on big money contracts right about now and not chasing minimum level contracts?
This. They're just chasing the ring-chaser because they know they'll end up on a super stacked team. At their respective age, they don't wanna have to do more than taking semi-contested shots, and with the Lebron-ball that's all anyone can do regardless of their age and skill-set.

[Hey Yo]

They want to ride his coattails so they can do LESS, while still having the chance to get to the Finals. Not better.
Last seasons D-Wade is a perfect example.

[Hey Yo]

If Lebron made them better then shouldn't they be cashing in on big money contracts right about now and not chasing minimum level contracts?
Go look and see how much Miller just turned down from Denver. Then look at how much he signed for to play in Cleveland.

[chips93]

spot up shooters

you said he didnt make a single player better

he also made birdman and rio better players.



bron is a great passer, but he is most effective with the ball in his hands, so of course he is only going to make spot up shooters, and guys who finish at the rim.

i think the heat could have utilised him better as a screener, which could have helped wade's game too, but they didnt. hopefully the cavs dont miss the opportunity to take advantage of kyrie/lebron pick and rolls.

[HiphopRelated]

The bigmen are staying with Wade. Miami wanted to get younger on the wings and the old shooters are following Lebron

[Nash]

how does one make players better? Please explain. The only way to make a player 'better' is by making their game easier which basically means taking all the attention. And as far as I know, many players have benefit from Lebron getting all the attention.

[BoutPractice]

He made Bosh a two time champion instead of one of the numerous 20/10 PFs now forgotten by history, solidified Wade and Allen's HOF resume, and is the main reason why casual fans might remember the names of Shane Battier, Mike Miller, and Mario Chalmers in the future.

Stars who lead their team to championships, that's one of the main ways they make their teammates "better". They make them relevant.

Without Michael Jordan, no one gives a crap about BJ Armstrong and John Paxson. Bill Cartwright was an all-star before the Bulls, but no one would know his name without MJ. Kobe did the same to Odom and Gasol... fine players, but without Kobe they're footnotes in NBA history (I say NBA because Gasol had a stellar international career), a borderline all-star and an all-star who never won anything.

[robert de niro]

how does one make players better? Please explain.
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr06/24/21/grid-cell-21175-1393296390-0.jpg

[dunksby]

He made the whole team better.

[choppermagic]

how does one make players better? Please explain. The only way to make a player 'better' is by making their game easier which basically means taking all the attention. And as far as I know, many players have benefit from Lebron getting all the attention.

I can explain. By setting an example for them and playing a game that lets them develop to become more consistent or more skilled players. Taking attention away helps sometimes but making good players into spot up role players who become one dimensional is not making them better.

Look at Magic. The way he played the game allowed Worthy to really maximize his skills. He also knew when to feed other teammates so they stay involved in the game or when they needed a bucket to shake off a slump. He also rebounded and scored when the team needed it too, facilitating the team goals allowing other players to focus on what they were doing. Also, his love for playing basketball and the fun attitude he instilled made his teammates played much more relaxed.