Wade Had No Memorable Moments During 10-14 Era

[SilkkTheShocker]

Drawing a blank when it comes to his contributions during that era :confusedshrug:

[riseagainst]

He played really well in the 2011 finals.

[Spaulding]

I'll bite...

You weren't impressed by his 2011 finals performance?

[TylerOO]

I'll bite...

You weren't impressed by his 2011 finals performance?

Looking at the numbers it was nice, but I get OPs point. No game stood out where you just said WOW, and shit.

That game vs Indy where him and LeBron went off is about all I can really remember that made my jaw drop

[tmacattack33]

Wade was good against Indiana when Bosh was injured in 2012. That was probably his best series as a part of that Heat era.

[Soundwave]

Playing with LeBron was a poor fit for him playing wise from the beginning. Bron can't deal with playing alongside a ball dominant player, something had to give, and it was Wade's overall offensive comfort zone and Bosh's turn and face post game that got the axe.

Their playing styles really never meshed well, and I always said it, they were never a great TEAM together. They just won on pure talent and some fluke bail out by Ray Allen in 2013. Otherwise they'd probably be 1/4 in that Finals run.

[Im Still Ballin]

Playing with LeBron was a poor fit for him playing wise from the beginning. Bron can't deal with playing alongside a ball dominant player, something had to give, and it was Wade's overall offensive comfort zone and Bosh's turn and face post game that got the axe.

Their playing styles really never meshed well, and I always said it, they were never a great TEAM together. They just won on pure talent and some fluke bail out by Ray Allen in 2013. Otherwise they'd probably be 1/4 in that Finals run.
when they got Andersen in 2013, I truly believe they became a GREAT team. If they had him all season they might have won 70 games.

[Dragic4Life]

I'll bite...

You weren't impressed by his 2011 finals performance?
Weren't impressed at all. He played selfishly and that cost us one championship.

[kennethgriffin]

would have had a more memorable moment than either of lebrons best if james didnt sabotage the finals


a 2011 finals mvp in a real season, no lockout, no ray allen bail out...would have been the best memorable moment

[PJR]

It's pretty comical watching LeBron stans attempting to revise history, now that LeBron no longer plays for the Heat. Just know your boy had zero NBA finals victories until he came to Wade County. Son had his tail tucked in between his ass against the Celtics.

[GrapeApe]

I'm not sure exactly what OP means by "moments" but my favorite play was his steal and dunk in game 4 of the '13 finals. That was definitely one of the signature plays of the series. I also like the fullcourt football pass hitting LeBron in stride for the alley.

[Hey Yo]

would have had a more memorable moment than either of lebrons best if james didnt sabotage the finals


a 2011 finals mvp in a real season, no lockout, no ray allen bail out...would have been the best memorable moment

You mean if Wade didn't ask the best player on the planet to take a backseat so he could try to get another FMVP.

Once that backfired and James was givin' full control, he turned them into B2B Champions.

[Jameerthefear]

Block against Tyson Chandler...

[Dragic4Life]

Block against Tyson Chandler...
That nobody remembers...

[SouBeachTalents]

2011 Celtics Series
2011 Finals where LeBron cost him another Finals MVP
2012 Pacers Series
Games 4-7 of the Finals
2014 Finals for how bad he was

[r15mohd]

It's pretty comical watching LeBron stans attempting to revise history, now that LeBron no longer plays for the Heat. Just know your boy had zero NBA finals victories until he came to Wade County. Son had his tail tucked in between his ass against the Celtics.


I believe Wade and Bosh coat-tailed Lebron to these past two titles, not any other way besides that...unsure what Lebron did with the Cavs have to do with what he did with the Heat. bottom line is he won multiple rings and was the clear leading player in the 4-year tenure within the Heat org. him reaching the Finals prior only shows how great he is and how inept the Cavs org was at providing a proper 2nd option.

:rolleyes: at your failed attempt to discredit him leading the way :facepalm

[Nikola_]

Dark age of the NBA, who cares

[Mass Debator]

2011 Celtics Series
2011 Finals where LeBron cost him another Finals MVP
2012 Pacers Series
Games 4-7 of the Finals
2014 Finals for how bad he was
Pretty much this.

[r15mohd]

You mean if Wade didn't ask the best player on the planet to take a backseat so he could try to get another FMVP.

Once that backfired and James was givin' full control, he turned them into B2B Champions.


good to know some ppl realize this...James goes from dominating all playoff's long in 2011 to being irrelevant? lol...yea, I don't beleive that one bit when Lebron just came off a pretty good series on his own.

not to mention, Lebron literally refused to shoot in the 2011 Finals. he gave Wade the window to get his last hooray in as the leader and Wade couldn't provide. the 1a-1b tandem never worked well from inception, and until Wade gave up the notion of being the leader of the team, did the Miami Heat prosper into being COMPLETELY a dominant team lead by Lebron.

Wade's absence in the 2014 Finals surely showed Lebron how much he could rely on the "superstar" Wade going forward...which rolled over from 2013 too.

[Fudge]

2011 brah. Never forget.

Wade should be a 2 time, 2 time, 2 time, 2 time Finals MVP. Woo!!

[Patrick Chewing]

This is the only thing that comes to mind:


http://www.menudobol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Dwayne-Wade-Flopping-415x309.jpg

[SouBeachTalents]

People are really blaming WADE for the Heat losing the 2011 Finals?

[SouBeachTalents]

2011 brah. Never forget.

Wade should be a 2 time, 2 time, 2 time, 2 time Finals MVP. Woo!!

That may be easy to dismiss, but he would have been one of just 11 players in the league history to accomplish that, that would have been a huge boost for his resume

[PJR]

I believe Wade and Bosh coat-tailed Lebron to these past two titles, not any other way besides that...unsure what Lebron did with the Cavs have to do with what he did with the Heat. bottom line is he won multiple rings and was the clear leading player in the 4-year tenure within the Heat org. him reaching the Finals prior only shows how great he is and how inept the Cavs org was at providing a proper 2nd option.

:rolleyes: at your failed attempt to discredit him leading the way :facepalm

The only players who are being discredited in this thread are Wade, and the rest of the Heat players who contributed to the historic run. LeBron is an all time great player, and him along with another all time great in Wade, and Bosh(the few times he showed up) spearheaded the attack.

And facts are: LeBron was RINGLESS before playing with Wade. That doesn't ring true (no pun intended) the other way around.


And you don't like what I have to say? I don't give a ****. Go join the Cleveland bandwagon, clown (you likely already have). :oldlol:

[Droid101]

Drawing a blank when it comes to his contributions during that era :confusedshrug:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcgnbuUlsl1qi63mr.png

[Akhenaten]

41 and 10 Gm 6 vs the Pacers in 2012
in fact the last 3 games of that series by him

Game 1 vs the Celtics in 2011 when he made Ray Allen fall and turned KG around with the Euro.

Game 5 vs the Bulls in 2011 when him and Lebron went crazy at the end, when he hit that step back 3 over Rose plus the foul.

OP a fakkit already know he trolling, just felt like reliving those moments.

[r15mohd]

The only players who are being discredited in this thread are Wade, and the rest of the Heat players who contributed to the historic run. LeBron is an all time great player, and him along with another all time great in Wade, and Bosh(the few times he showed up) spearheaded the attack.

And facts are: LeBron was RINGLESS before playing with Wade. That doesn't ring true (no pun intended) the other way around.


And you don't like what I have to say? I don't give a ****. Go join the Cleveland bandwagon, clown (you likely already have). :oldlol:


:lol :lol :lol why are u so mad for, no milk for the bowl of cereal you just poured? :rolleyes:

[PJR]

:lol :lol :lol why are u so mad for, no milk for the bowl of cereal you just poured? :rolleyes:

Who's mad. I'm actually laughing at you. Because you have no retort for dem facts. :pimp:

[Fudge]

:lol :lol :lol why are u so mad for, no milk for the bowl of cereal you just poured? :rolleyes:
Hahaha, PJR got you dude. :oldlol:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

when they got Andersen in 2013, I truly believe they became a GREAT team. If they had him all season they might have won 70 games.

I hated the team but to come to think of it, he did have a huge impact.

[HomieWeMajor]

It's pretty comical watching LeBron stans attempting to revise history, now that LeBron no longer plays for the Heat. Just know your boy had zero NBA finals victories until he came to Wade County. Son had his tail tucked in between his ass against the Celtics.
For real
Wade gave Lebron that first 8 ball and put him on the block

[r15mohd]

People are really blaming WADE for the Heat losing the 2011 Finals?


it's not a blame...Wade played great but I think there definite leader issue going into the Finals and who would come out as FMVP had the Heat won.

Lebron basically coasted it...not even involved offensively, something you've never seen from him, really. either he's in setting up his teammates or scoring, he basically did neither for majority of that series.

[Droid101]

But really, why respond?

1) User1 posts unintelligible garbage or purposefully illogical nonsense.
2) Everyone calls him out on his stupidity (except his fanbois).
3) User1 states that he's "living rent free in your head" and that he somehow "won" the exchange.

Why let the cycle continue?

[r15mohd]

Who's mad. I'm actually laughing at you. Because you have no retort for dem facts. :pimp:


what fact...the Lebron hadn't won before Wade. ok? :confusedshrug: i think it's pretty clearly known, no? :rolleyes: Lebron never had a still prime Shaq to accompany his team. way to compare the one-sided facts! :facepalm

did Wade even sniff an ECF without a second option? how about Wade in 2010-11 being apart of the 1a-1b tandem for the Heat, did Wade prevail then?

no discredit to Wade, but you gotta set your ego aside and let the best player in the game control things if he's on your team. not get in your last hooray before stepping aside...and just look at what happened when he stepped aside. bring up those facts and Wade's countless absences while Lebron lead the way to 2-rings and 4-finals straight finals. facts are facts, right?

found that milk yet? :rolleyes:

[PJR]

what fact...the Lebron hadn't won before Wade. ok? :confusedshrug: i think it's pretty clearly known, no? :rolleyes: Lebron never had a still prime Shaq to accompany his team. way to compare the one-sided facts! :facepalm

did Wade even sniff an ECF without a second option? how about Wade in 2010-11 being apart of the 1a-1b tandem for the Heat, did Wade prevail then?

no discredit to Wade, but you gotta set your ego aside and let the best player in the game control things if he's on your team. not get in your last hooray before stepping aside...and just look at what happened when he stepped aside. bring up those facts and Wade's countless absences while Lebron lead the way to 2-rings and 4-finals straight finals. facts are facts, right?

found that milk yet? :rolleyes:

It's pretty funny how you're a supposedly a 'Heat fan', and you're harping on my post in regards to LeBron.

Yet this thread is basically insinuating that Wade (a Miami Heat Heat lifer) had little to no impact on the Heat's run these past four years, and you seemingly take no issue with that complete nonsense.

It's only the post about LeBron being ringless , before joining the Heat that bothers you? I wonder why? Hmmmmmm.

It's probably because you're a LeBron stan, who has masqueraded himself a Heat fan these past four years.

I see right thru you, little boy. You're transparent.


The Cleveland bandwagon awaits you.

[SpecialQue]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MQmXy-g7bHQ/U55YJiPhrAI/AAAAAAAAHmE/SxmlR-Ep7rk/s1600/leb.gif

[Mass Debator]

no discredit to Wade, but you gotta set your ego aside and let the best player in the game control things if he's on your team. not get in your last hooray before stepping aside...and just look at what happened when he stepped aside. bring up those facts and Wade's countless absences while Lebron lead the way to 2-rings and 4-finals straight finals. facts are facts, right?

found that milk yet? :rolleyes:
Actually, you're giving Lebron a little bit too much credit and not giving Wade enough. Whether if it was Wade or Bosh going off, Lebron didn't know how to play in a role where he wasn't comfortable in...a second or third option. He wasn't fully engaged in all facets of game unless he controlled everything his way and getting the attention he believes he deserves. Sure Lebron is unselfish enough to let another player do his thing, but at that time, he wasn't able to play off of it and that's not Wade's fault. And fyi, Wade was just as good as Lebron that season. 2 headed monster with no clear leader. Wade averaged freaking 30/7/5 on 53% against the Celtics. Is that not enough to be considered 1a and 1b with Lebron?

Both have great superstar egos. In response to your Wade's ego statement, you can say the same thing about Lebron. It's not like they were getting their butts whipped. They were on the verge of a winnable championship. Honestly, Wade stepping back as #2 was him being the bigger brother and looking out for the long run. Lebron plays winning basketball, but Wade plays championship basketball. It wasn't about Wade stepping back that brought Lebron James his first championship. It was more about the Miami Heat being pretty lucky to have gone against the young Thunder core the following year. The iso-ball between Westbrook and Durant (and disappearance of Harden) fell directly into Miami's defensive game plan. For their second chip, Lebron needed every bit of big brother Wade in the finals and Wade flipped the series around.

Yes, Wade needed Lebron to win championships, but Lebron needed Wade as well.

[Beastmode88]

Weren't impressed at all. He played selfishly and that cost us one championship.

You act like you're a heat fan. :coleman: dwades selfishness caused bran to be outplayed by jason terry? :lol

[BlkMambaGOAT]

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/d-wade-flop.gif


The student has equalled the master (AKA Bran)

[SilkkTheShocker]

I'll bite...

You weren't impressed by his 2011 finals performance?

You mean where he was single covered all series and played terrible in the clutch?

[SilkkTheShocker]

Weren't impressed at all. He played selfishly and that cost us one championship.

Yep. Wanted to be the hero in 2011. too bad he wasn't good enough to get miami over the hump that year. Thankfully LeBron took the team over and they were able to repeat.

[Dresta]

good to know some ppl realize this...James goes from dominating all playoff's long in 2011 to being irrelevant? lol...yea, I don't beleive that one bit when Lebron just came off a pretty good series on his own.

not to mention, Lebron literally refused to shoot in the 2011 Finals. he gave Wade the window to get his last hooray in as the leader and Wade couldn't provide. the 1a-1b tandem never worked well from inception, and until Wade gave up the notion of being the leader of the team, did the Miami Heat prosper into being COMPLETELY a dominant team lead by Lebron.

Wade's absence in the 2014 Finals surely showed Lebron how much he could rely on the "superstar" Wade going forward...which rolled over from 2013 too.
Ok, so you can stop pretending to be a Heat fan now as you've just exposed yourself as a disgraceful and unrepentant Bron stan.

Lebron checked out in 2011 because he wanted to help Wade win FMVP by providing him with no support and incessant ball stopping on the way to choking away a 15 point lead that Wade was mostly responsible for building? He helped Wade's career by losing him a ring and Finals mvp? Your logic is utterly dumbfounding.

[PJR]

You mean where he was single covered all series and played terrible in the clutch?

Naw, the series where LeBron scored 8 points in game 4, and couldn't post up JJ Barea or Jason Kidd one on one.

[SouBeachTalents]

Ok, so you can stop pretending to be a Heat fan now as you've just exposed yourself as a disgraceful and unrepentant Bron stan.

Lebron checked out in 2011 because he wanted to help Wade win FMVP by providing him with no support and incessant ball stopping on the way to choking away a 15 point lead that Wade was mostly responsible for building? He helped Wade's career by losing him a ring and Finals mvp? Your logic is utterly dumbfounding.

Just :facepalm at anyone who blames Wade and absolves LeBron for losing the 2011 Finals.

[jzek]

I think when he scored 8 or 13 pts in the Finals was memorable.

[ekosky]

This is coming a Lebron fan and even i can admit Lebron costed Wade a Finals MVP in 2011.. Get real man

[ProfessorMurder]

Him breaking Rondo's elbow was memorable.

[imdaman99]

Wade was the reason bran finally got past the Celtics :oldlol:

Remind me how many times bran got past them when he was on the Cavs.

[PJR]

I think when he scored 8 or 13 pts in the Finals was memorable.

You must be referring to LeBron, because as bad of a performance as Wade had in this past years Finals, he still never had an 8 point performance like Bran did in 2011.

[PJR]

Wade was the reason bran finally got past the Celtics :oldlol:

Remind me how many times bran got past them when he was on the Cavs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0


:oldlol: LeBron before he had Wade to help breakdown the Celtics defense.

[Dresta]

You mean where he was single covered all series and played terrible in the clutch?
This argument is just a plain lie. In the clutch in the playoffs against the Mavs that year:

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerClutch.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=2010-11&filters=&OpponentTeamID=1610612742

Wade shoots 56%, 40% from 3. Bron shoots 0%, and misses all 7 of his shots in clutch situations. Wade makes 5 of 9, with 2 3s. It isn't hard to see where the series was lost now is it?

As for the 'Dallas were focused on Bron' fabrication, well, Miami and Wade played better with Lebron on the bench than on the floor, so that is another claim of yours that can be easily disproven.

Don't you ever get tired of being so wrong, like, all the time?

[dubeta]

Wades most memorable moment

http://cdn.niketalk.com/f/f7/350x700px-LL-f7a1bc7b_a84e32803e8dc4771280da4b530ce11c_dwaynewa decrying.jpeg

[ekosky]

This argument is just a plain lie. In the clutch in the playoffs against the Mavs that year:

http://stats.nba.com/leaguePlayerClutch.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25&Season=2010-11&filters=&OpponentTeamID=1610612742

Wade shoots 56%, 40% from 3. Bron shoots 0%, and misses all 7 of his shots in clutch situations. Wade makes 5 of 9, with 2 3s. It isn't hard to see where the series was lost now is it?

As for the 'Dallas were focused on Bron' fabrication, well, Miami and Wade played better with Lebron on the bench than on the floor, so that is another claim of yours that can be easily disproven.

Don't you ever get tired of being so wrong, like, all the time?
:applause:

Perfectly summed up.

even i can admit Lebrons downfalls.

[Dragic4Life]

Wades most memorable moment

http://cdn.niketalk.com/f/f7/350x700px-LL-f7a1bc7b_a84e32803e8dc4771280da4b530ce11c_dwaynewa decrying.jpeg
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[T_L_P]

:applause:

Perfectly summed up.

even i can admit Lebrons downfalls.

A rarity. I salute you. :cheers:

[Sarcastic]

Anyone who plays with Lebron, gets all their achievements trivialized by his Stans all the time.


Take Boobie Gibson for example. He put the team on his back in the 2007 ECF, but never gets credit for it.

Game 1 - gets 5 minutes of playing time; Pistons win
Game 2 - gets 19 minutes; Pistons win
Game 3 - gets 30 minutes; Cavs win
Game 4 - scores 21 points on only 7 FGA; Cavs win
Game 5 - Lebron's best game of his career; Cavs win.
Game 6 - Boobie shoots 7 for 9, and 5 for 5 from 3pt range, scores 31 points, while Lebron shoots 3 for 11; Cavs win series.

When the game was close, look who took over late in the 3rd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG58oZyw538

[Jailblazers7]

I'll always remember the Big 3 era for the win streak and the first two years where Lebron and Wade were running the floor and tossing alleys to each other.

[GrapeApe]

It's funny how the legit responses in this thread are glossed over. I'll add another. Wade's acrobatic alley-oop layup in the finals against OKC. Vintage DWade on the biggest stage.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Like I said, no memorable moments. Wade would still be losing in the first round to the Hawks if it weren't for LeBron making him relevant again. No notable highlights in 4 years. Even Bosh had more :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

Like I said, no memorable moments. Wade would still be losing in the first round to the Hawks if it weren't for LeBron making him relevant again. No notable highlights in 4 years. Even Bosh had more :roll:

:facepalm

[Dragic4Life]

Had Wade not have Shaq and the refs in 06, he will be ringless without Lebron.

[livinglegend]

That was a pathetic 4 years for a ''superstar''.

[dubeta]

I dont think ppl realize in 2011 Wade forced LeBron to defer since Wade wanted FMVP bad, they talked about it before LeBron even signed

LeBron was supposed to distribute, and Wade lead the way winning FMVP

Problem was Wade was too beta to will his team to victory, thus the next few years he allowed Bron to take his natural alpha position.

[beastee]

You may not remember any memorable moments with him, but i GUARANTEEE Lebron is still ringless without him. So there is that...

[livinglegend]

But really, why respond?

1) User1 posts unintelligible garbage or purposefully illogical nonsense.
2) Everyone calls him out on his stupidity (except his fanbois).
3) User1 states that he's "living rent free in your head" and that he somehow "won" the exchange.

Why let the cycle continue?

yet, you responded.
What a loser you are.

[Dragic4Life]

That was a pathetic 4 years for a ''superstar''.
Wade was NEVER a "superstar".

Manufactured by the refs in 06 to be portrayed as a WAAAYYY better player than he really is.

[Beastmode88]

I dont think ppl realize in 2011 Wade forced LeBron to defer since Wade wanted FMVP bad, they talked about it before LeBron even signed

LeBron was supposed to distribute, and Wade lead the way winning FMVP

Problem was Wade was too beta to will his team to victory, thus the next few years he allowed Bron to take his natural alpha position.

http://ecache.ilbe.com/files/attach/new/20131215/132676392/17499896/2550799781/2dae9cba0b13edbabbe0d8df89cfec19.jpg

le-efficiency

[SpecialQue]

Like I said, no memorable moments. Wade would still be losing in the first round to the Hawks if it weren't for LeBron making him relevant again. No notable highlights in 4 years. Even Bosh had more :roll:

Definitely nothing more memorable than this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MQmXy-g7bHQ/U55YJiPhrAI/AAAAAAAAHmE/SxmlR-Ep7rk/s1600/leb.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

Wade was NEVER a "superstar".

Manufactured by the refs in 06 to be portrayed as a WAAAYYY better player than he really is.

:facepalm

[SouBeachTalents]

That was a pathetic 4 years for a ''superstar''.

Wade was only still a "superstar" that first year with LeBron. He declined every year after that

[Dragic4Life]

:facepalm
Any player without at least 1 MVP should NOT BE CALLED A SUPERSTAR.

Durant just made his bone last season.

[PJR]

All you have to do is refer to 2006, and that's death to all LeBron stans.

There will never ever be a caveat attached to Wade's career, that he "needed Lebron to win".

We already saw when Wade was healthy, in his prime, and was equipped with a good supporting cast(Wade teams in 2009 and 2010 were crapola), he could get the team over the hump.

LeBron's 2010 Cleveland team was really not all that different from Wade's 2006 Heat, yet he couldn't get over them hump.

Hell, Shaq was as good against Boston in 2010, as he was against the Dallas Mavericks in 2006...But Bran had his tail tucked in between his ass in game 5. Series was tied at 2-2, coming home, and he dropped 15/7. Used a fake elbow injury as an excuse/cover up for playing like shit. :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron leaving makes Wade irrelevant again. Miami has no actual fan base. No one gives a shit about the Heat reality. It was all just LeBron.

[aj1987]

Had Wade not have Shaq and the refs in 06, he will be ringless without Lebron.
Can you remind me how many rings LeBron without Wade?



@Dresta, That guys is a LeBron stan who pretends to be a Heat fan. All he ever does is talk shit about Wade. It's like as if Wade ****ed his girl/mom or something like that. Dude is a clown.

Oh and Wade's memorable moments?

2011:

- 28/7/5/2/1 on 51% over a 51 game stretch in '11. His last season as a top 3 player.
- 38/5/3/2/1 on 67/40/90 and 34/10/5/4 on 68% against the Celtics.
- 30/7/5/2/1 in the series against the Celtics no 62% TS.
- 27/7/5/2/2 on 61% TS in the Finals.

2012:

- 24/5/5/2/1 on 59% TS over a 35 game stretch on a bad knee.
- 30/9/6/2/1 on 57/100/33 against the Pacers, afar everyone said he was done.
- 33/7/4/2/1 on 64% TS over the 3 game domination of the Pacers.
- 23/6/5/1/1 on 52% TS in the Finals (again, on a bad knee).

2013:

- 23/5/6/2/1 on 52% over a 45 game stretch, including 23/6/6/2/1 on 54% during the streak.
- One of Miami clutchest player (on the offensive and defensive end) during the streak.
- 32/6/4/6 on 60% TS in a must win Game 4 of the Finals.
- 23/10/1/1/2 on 52% in the Game 7. Out rebounded Miami's starting C.

2014:

Meh. Outside of his series against the Pacers and the first 3 quarters of game 1 of the Finals, it was pretty much forgettable.

EDIT: Totally forgot that Wade was like the 4th SG to shoot over 54% a game, while averaging at least 15 PPG and playing 50 games.

[dubeta]

All you have to do is refer to 2006, and that's death to all LeBron stans.

There will never ever be a caveat attached to Wade's career, that he "needed Lebron to win".

We already saw when Wade was healthy, in his prime, and was equipped with a good supporting cast(Wade teams in 2009 and 2010 were crapola), he could get the team over the hump.

LeBron's 2010 Cleveland team was really not all that different from Wade's 2006 Heat, yet he couldn't get over them hump.

Hell, Shaq was as good against Boston in 2010, as he was against the Dallas Mavericks in 2006...But Bran had his tail tucked in between his ass in game 5, when the series was tied at 2-2, coming home, and he dropped 15/7. Used a fake elbow injury as an excuse/cover up for playing like shit. :oldlol:

So having near prime Shaq, prime haslem, gary payton, antoine walker is similar to having 40 year old Shaq and mo williams? :lol


All you need to do is post Wades winning percentage without Shaq or LeBron on his team to slay these D-Wade stans

Hint: its similar to Kobe's winning percentage without Shaq or Gasol

[Dragic4Life]

LeBron leaving makes Wade irrelevant again. Miami has no actual fan base. No one gives a shit about the Heat reality. It was all just LeBron.
Remember this? They'll be handing this out every game next season.:oldlol:

http://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Miami-Heat-Fan-Up-e1290392138749.jpg

[SilkkTheShocker]

All you have to do is refer to 2006, and that's death to all LeBron stans.

There will never ever be a caveat attached to Wade's career, that he "needed Lebron to win".

We already saw when Wade was healthy, in his prime, and was equipped with a good supporting cast(Wade teams in 2009 and 2010 were crapola), he could get the team over the hump.

LeBron's 2010 Cleveland team was really not all that different from Wade's 2006 Heat, yet he couldn't get over them hump.

Hell, Shaq was as good against Boston in 2010, as he was against the Dallas Mavericks in 2006...But Bran had his tail tucked in between his ass in game 5. Series was tied at 2-2, coming home, and he dropped 15/7. Used a fake elbow injury as an excuse/cover up for playing like shit. :oldlol:

Most rigged series in NBA history. There is a reason why everyone considers the 06 Finals a joke.

[Beastmode88]

LeBron leaving makes Wade irrelevant again. Miami has no actual fan base. No one gives a shit about the Heat reality. It was all just LeBron.

but you were rooting for their 3 peat... :facepalm dont forget to submit that bandwagon form. if you forgot here's a copy just print and submit.

http://02804cf22a6e7b7042d7-acae2c2628dcdf3f1dfc3ee4f6e97624.r48.cf1.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nba-bandwagon-transfer-form-570x604.jpg

[PJR]

So having near prime Shaq, prime haslem, gary payton, antoine walker is similar to having 40 year old Shaq and mo williams? :lol


All you need to do is post Wades winning percentage without Shaq or LeBron on his team to slay these D-Wade stans

Hint: its similar to Kobe's winning percentage without Shaq or Gasol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

[aj1987]

LeBron leaving makes Wade irrelevant again. Miami has no actual fan base. No one gives a shit about the Heat reality. It was all just LeBron.
http://i.imgur.com/bqxUcx0.png

Please kill yourself.




So having near prime Shaq, prime haslem, gary payton, antoine walker is similar to having 40 year old Shaq and mo williams? :lol


All you need to do is post Wades winning percentage without Shaq or LeBron on his team to slay these D-Wade stans

Hint: its similar to Kobe's winning percentage without Shaq or Gasol

Wade - Shaq = 2 rings
Wade - LeBron = 1 ring
LeBron - Wade = :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Remember this? They'll be handing this out every game next season.:oldlol:

http://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Miami-Heat-Fan-Up-e1290392138749.jpg

What a shitty fan base :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:


Can't wait to see what happens next season without Bron:

http://buainsurance.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/seats-in-empty-arena.jpg

[PJR]

Most rigged series in NBA history. There is a reason why everyone considers the 06 Finals a joke.





Wade had one of the best Finals performances of all time. Kobe wasn't even the best player on his team.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=8867698

Changing your tune now? :roll:

[SilkkTheShocker]

but you were rooting for their 3 peat... :facepalm dont forget to submit that bandwagon form. if you forgot here's a copy just print and submit.

http://02804cf22a6e7b7042d7-acae2c2628dcdf3f1dfc3ee4f6e97624.r48.cf1.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nba-bandwagon-transfer-form-570x604.jpg

Knicks = dog.shit franchise. Same amount of rings as Norris Cole :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Dragic4Life]

What a shitty fan base :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:


Can't wait to see what happens next season without Bron:

http://buainsurance.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/seats-in-empty-arena.jpg
Sad franchise, stuck with Wade and Bosh without their alpha and leader.:lol :oldlol:

[Beastmode88]

Knicks = dog.shit franchise. Same amount of rings as Norris Cole :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

i would make fun of the franchise you root for. oh wait... :roll: jump ship when the tough gets going. :lol

[Dragic4Life]

Beastmode88 you need to get it through your head this so-called "bandwagon form" joke that you think is so funny, is actually not.:facepalm

Joke didn't work the first time with me, let alone Sikk.:oldlol:

[Beastmode88]

Sad franchise, stuck with Wade and Bosh without their alpha and leader.:lol :oldlol:

same franchise you were rooting for from 2010-2014. :roll:

[Beastmode88]

Beastmode88 you need to get it through your head this so-called "bandwagon form" joke that you think is so funny, is actually not.:facepalm

Joke didn't work the first time with me, let alone Sikk.:oldlol:

should of seen that silkk meltdown post game 5. :roll: :roll: now that was a joke and a half too bad the mods had to delete it.

[r15mohd]

I dont think ppl realize in 2011 Wade forced LeBron to defer since Wade wanted FMVP bad, they talked about it before LeBron even signed

LeBron was supposed to distribute, and Wade lead the way winning FMVP

Problem was Wade was too beta to will his team to victory, thus the next few years he allowed Bron to take his natural alpha position.


yup...Wade expected Lebron to be 2nd fiddle because Miami was his team. as great as they seemed to look as 1a-1b, it was a complete disconnect that first year. we had countless threads here acknowledging how much of a waste one player standing aside to give each other their turn looked atrocious. i'm sure we can bump the hundreds of "Robin to Batman" threads that I'm sure some of the naysayers here are in, as well :rolleyes:

now they wanna say it was a GREAT tactic to prop Wade seeing Lebron has left. :rolleyes: there can NEVER be 2 leaders on the floor, one always has to be clearly in front of the other and that had to be Lebron from the jump. Wade didn't want to relinquish the role initially, and Lebron didn't want to step on his toes either. it cost them the 1st title. that's not hard to see. :confusedshrug:

as for the boston series...ok, both were great. but exactly how rare was that? how often has Wade been consistently good for a series to continue this notion? it's few and far between, even when the attention was primarily on James, and then Wade having the easier path to thrive. the REAL winning and dominance didn't come through until Lebron was placed at the front and Wade behind him...it's proven, 2 titles and a 27-game win streak under it. what more do you need to attest to it?

even worse this last season...all this regimen to keep Wade healthy to only fail in the Finals. it's why I don't stand by Wade until he proves himself for Miami again. I rather be the a-hole and tell him bye to bring in less-prone-to-injury Stephenson, at an even more discounted rate, too. Wade was good when he was Flash, but that's history and the past doesn't help us win going forward. in 2 yrs, I just hope Pat does the right thing and pay him the $5mil he deserves going forward or tell him retire and sit in the box seats where I am

[aj1987]

yup...Wade expected Lebron to be 2nd fiddle because Miami was his team. as great as they seemed to look as 1a-1b, it was a complete disconnect that first year. we had countless threads here acknowledging how much of a waste one player standing aside to give each other their turn looked atrocious. i'm sure we can bump the hundreds of "Robin to Batman" threads that I'm sure some of the naysayers here are in, as well :rolleyes:

now they wanna say it was a GREAT tactic to prop Wade seeing Lebron has left. :rolleyes: there can NEVER be 2 leaders on the floor, one always has to be clearly in front of the other and that had to be Lebron from the jump. Wade didn't want to relinquish the role initially, and Lebron didn't want to step on his toes either. it cost them the 1st title. that's not hard to see. :confusedshrug:

as for the boston series...ok, both were great. but exactly how rare was that? how often has Wade been consistently good for a series to continue this notion? it's few and far between, even when the attention was primarily on James, and then Wade having the easier path to thrive. the REAL winning and dominance didn't come through until Lebron was placed at the front and Wade behind him...it's proven, 2 titles and a 27-game win streak under it. what more do you need to attest to it?

even worse this last season...all this regimen to keep Wade healthy to only fail in the Finals. it's why I don't stand by Wade until he proves himself for Miami again. I rather be the a-hole and tell him bye to bring in less-prone-to-injury Stephenson, at an even more discounted rate, too. Wade was good when he was Flash, but that's history and the past doesn't help us win going forward. in 2 yrs, I just hope Pat does the right thing and pay him the $5mil he deserves going forward or tell him retire and sit in the box seats where I am
Holy ****ing shit. This has to be one of the worst ****ing posts on this board.

How retarded do you have to be, to believe that Wade cost Miami a title in '11? LeBron flat out choked and quit.

Again, stop pretending to be a Heat fan. You obviously suck LeBron's dick harder than Silkk.

[livinglegend]

Beastmode is useless to this board. He s a poor man of all of those known Kobe stans. He only repeat what they say. Another loser in the making.

[Dragic4Life]

Holy ****ing shit. This has to be one of the worst ****ing posts on this board.

How retarded do you have to be, to believe that Wade cost Miami a title in '11? LeBron flat out choked and quit.

Again, stop pretending to be a Heat fan. You obviously suck LeBron's dick harder than Silkk.
Watch the series. Wade was hogging the ball and being selfish and isolating the clear-cut best player on his team.

r15mohd's post is 100% right.

[Dragic4Life]

Beastmode is useless to this board. He s a poor man of all of those known Kobe stans. He only repeat what they say. Another loser in the making.
These clones and wannabes are just too easy.:oldlol:

[livinglegend]

Holy ****ing shit. This has to be one of the worst ****ing posts on this board.

How retarded do you have to be, to believe that Wade cost Miami a title in '11? LeBron flat out choked and quit.

Again, stop pretending to be a Heat fan. You obviously suck LeBron's dick harder than Silkk.

Listen to Mark Cuban on that. He admitted that their whole gameplay was to make Lebron pass the ball and make his teammates make their shots. He said Lebron made the right plays, but his teammates couldnt make their shots, this is why they lost.

[r15mohd]

Holy ****ing shit. This has to be one of the worst ****ing posts on this board.

How retarded do you have to be, to believe that Wade cost Miami a title in '11? LeBron flat out choked and quit.

Again, stop pretending to be a Heat fan. You obviously suck LeBron's dick harder than Silkk.


I've been a Heat fan longer than your Wade-stanning self...now shut up and sit on the bench with your declining Wade while we see Ennis bloom (hopefully)

[SouBeachTalents]

Listen to Mark Cuban on that. He admitted that their whole gameplay was to make Lebron pass the ball and make his teammates make their shots. He said Lebron made the right plays, but his teammates couldnt make their shots, this is why they lost.

Considering LeBron shot 39% in Games 3-5 in Dallas, I'd say he couldn't really make his shots either

[aj1987]

Listen to Mark Cuban on that. He admitted that their whole gameplay was to make Lebron pass the ball and make his teammates make their shots. He said Lebron made the right plays, but his teammates couldnt make their shots, this is why they lost.
Didn't LeBron shoot like 33% in the 4th? Wade was at 55%, IIRC.

I don't need Mark Cuban to tell me how LeBron played. Unlike you kids, I actually saw all the games. LeBron choked. That's why Miami lost. He sucked ass defensively as well.


I've been a Heat fan longer than your Wade-stanning self...now shut up and sit on the bench with your declining Wade while we see Ennis bloom (hopefully)
You've been a Heat fan for 4 years and now you're a Cav's fan (AGAIN!). You LeTurds are pathetic.

[Dragic4Life]

I've been a Heat fan longer than your Wade-stanning self...now shut up and sit on the bench with your declining Wade while we see Ennis bloom (hopefully)
:roll:

[livinglegend]

Considering LeBron shot 39% in Games 3-5 in Dallas, I'd say he couldn't really make his shots either

He wouldnt have to take bad shots if his teammates took their wide open shots and made them.

[r15mohd]

Watch the series. Wade was hogging the ball and being selfish and isolating the clear-cut best player on his team.

r15mohd's post is 100% right.


:wtf:

no...Wade wasn't that at all, Wade played GREAT that Finals, Lebron just refused to participate to give Wade his spotlight. it cost Miami because anyhow Lebron involved himself more, he had chance to be FMVP.

not to mention, Dirk was pretty ridiculous that Finals (whole playoffs too)...surely didn't help the situation lol

[livinglegend]

Didn't LeBron shoot like 33% in the 4th? Wade was at 55%, IIRC.

I don't need Mark Cuban to tell me how LeBron played. Unlike you kids, I actually saw all the games. LeBron choked. That's why Miami lost. He sucked ass defensively as well.

I would take Mark Cuban s opinion over you. He owns a basketball team. He knows all the strategies used by the Mavs, he was there with the team when they prepared their gameplans. And he certainly knows basketball more than you.
If you look back at their games, you would see that he was right. If the role players made their wide open shots instead of passing them or missing them, Mavs would be done.

[EnoughSaid]

:wtf:

**** all you LeBron stans that are now all of a sudden jumping on Wade just because your boy ran back home.

No memorable moments?

2010/2011:
- AMAZING performances vs. Boston and Dallas in the postseason (8th highest PER in a Finals series. Yeah his 2006 is number one)

- Back to back 40 point games vs. New York and then Houston (Not something you see happen all the time)

- Dunk on Perkins

2011/2012:
- Game 4 and Game vs. Indy, where him and LeBron basically took over the series.

- Some great games vs. OKC in the Finals

2012/2013:
- Really came to life in the Finals against San Antonio. Some even argued he was in the lead for the FMVP after Game 4.


These are just a few. Don't give your agenda bullshit.

[Dragic4Life]

I would take Mark Cuban s opinion over you. He owns a basketball team. He knows all the strategies used by the Mavs, he was there with the team when they prepared their gameplans. And he certainly knows basketball more than you.
If you look back at their games, you would see that he was right. If the role players made their wide open shots instead of passing them or missing them, Mavs would be done.
Mark Cuban straight up OWNED Skip Bayless and SAS while they try to blame Lebron right here in the video livinglegend mentioned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAkVnlA9CJo

[aj1987]

I would take Mark Cuban s opinion over you. He owns a basketball team. He knows all the strategies used by the Mavs, he was there with the team when they prepared their gameplans. And he certainly knows basketball more than you.
If you look back at their games, you would see that he was right. If the role players made their wide open shots instead of passing them or missing them, Mavs would be done.
Yeah, lets blame others. LeBron scoring 18 on 54% TS didn't have anything to do with it. It was Bibby's fault that LeBron stop 33% in the 4th (10% from the 3).

How about that defense by LeBron doe. :oldlol:

[livinglegend]

Yeah, lets blame others. LeBron scoring 18 on 54% TS didn't have anything to do with it. It was Bibby's fault that LeBron stop 33% in the 4th (10% from the 3).

You are just like Skip and Stephen A Smith. You dont know basketball. You just look at stats and use big words that dont mean anything. Look at Mark Cuban s video. He clearly owned Skip and Smith who both had the same views as you.

[Dragic4Life]

You are just like Skip and Stephen A Smith. You dont know basketball. You just look at stats and use big words that dont mean anything. Look at Mark Cuban s video. He clearly owned Skip and Smith who both had the same views as you.
Right here bro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAkVnlA9CJo

Got you covered.

[livinglegend]

Right here bro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAkVnlA9CJo

Got you covered.
:cheers:

[aj1987]

You are just like Skip and Stephen A Smith. You dont know basketball. You just look at stats and use big words that dont mean anything. Look at Mark Cuban s video. He clearly owned Skip and Smith who both had the same views as you.
I'm talking about his shooting and DEFENSE, you idiot. How hard is that to understand?

He shot like shit in the clutch and disappeared during the most crucial moments. Didn't even want the ball. He was Harenesq defensively during a lot of stretches.

[Dragic4Life]

I'm talking about his shooting and DEFENSE, you idiot. How hard is that to understand?

He shot like shit in the clutch and disappeared during the most crucial moments. Didn't even want the ball. He was Harenesq defensively during a lot of stretches.
Why weren't you complaining and posting this 2 years ago?

Why wait until now? OH RIGGGGHHHT because Lebron just dump your team. Now it's time to vent right?

Pathetic Heat fan.

[houston]

2011 Celtics Series
2011 Finals where LeBron cost him another Finals MVP
2012 Pacers Series
Games 4-7 of the Finals
2014 Finals for how bad he was


ok

[livinglegend]

I'm talking about his shooting and DEFENSE, you idiot. How hard is that to understand?

He shot like shit in the clutch and disappeared during the most crucial moments. Didn't even want the ball. He was Harenesq defensively during a lot of stretches.

You are dumb.
He had to take bad shots because his teammates refused to take their wide open shots. Also, his teammates missing wide open shots killed the whole spacing. His bad shooting had a lot to do with his teammates sucking.
His defense wasnt bad. You are making up this shit.

[Droid101]

This forum is a disgrace.

http://manvela.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg

[livinglegend]

Mark Cuban: '' Lebron actually made the right play more often than not. He made the right pass to the right guy who didnt make the right play. That s exactly what we wanted. ''

[Dragic4Life]

Mark Cuban: '' Lebron actually made the right play more often than not. He made the right pass to the right guy who didnt make the right play. That s exactly what we wanted. ''
Nice quote, gonna use in my thread.:applause:

[aj1987]

Why weren't you complaining and posting this 2 years ago?

Why wait until now? OH RIGGGGHHHT because Lebron just dump your team. Now it's time to vent right?

Pathetic Heat fan.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

I've always said LeBron choked and sucked ass in '11. I have and still give him MAJOR props for helping Mimi win 2 rings. Heck, I never even blamed LeBron for this Finals, even though he was a bit passive at times.


You are dumb.
He had to take bad shots because his teammates refused to take their wide open shots. Also, his teammates missing wide open shots killed the whole spacing. His bad shooting had a lot to do with his teammates sucking.
His defense wasnt bad. You are making up this shit.


:facepalm

LeBron had Wade averaging 27 PPG on 56%, Bosh averaging 19 PPG on 41%, and Chalmers averaging 12 (40% from the 3). I suggest you go rewatch the Finals. I don't get my basketball opinions from YouTube videos. I actually watch the games.

[livinglegend]

Nice quote, gonna use in my thread.:applause:

Use it as much as possible. Let everyone see the light, the truth! :applause:

[livinglegend]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I've always said LeBron choked and sucked ass in '11. I have and still give him MAJOR props for helping Mimi win 2 rings. Heck, I never even blamed LeBron for this Finals, even though he was a bit passive at times.



:facepalm

LeBron had Wade averaging 27 PPG on 56%, Bosh averaging 19 PPG on 41%, and Chalmers averaging 12 (40% from the 3). I suggest you go rewatch the Finals. I don't get my basketball opinions from YouTube videos. I actually watch the games.

I watched the games and I completely agree with Mark Cuban.
I analysed every play.
Mark Cuban: '' Lebron actually made the right play more often than not. He made the right pass to the right guy who didnt make the right play. That s exactly what we wanted. ''

[Dragic4Life]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I've always said LeBron choked and sucked ass in '11. I have and still give him MAJOR props for helping Mimi win 2 rings. Heck, I never even blamed LeBron for this Finals, even though he was a bit passive at times.



:facepalm

LeBron had Wade averaging 27 PPG on 56%, Bosh averaging 19 PPG on 41%, and Chalmers averaging 12 (40% from the 3). I suggest you go rewatch the Finals. I don't get my basketball opinions from YouTube videos. I actually watch the games.
aj1987 what NBA team do you own? Care to let me know?:confusedshrug:

Do you know better than Mark fkin' Cuban?

[aj1987]

Do you know better than Mark fkin' Cuban?
Yes.

http://i.imgur.com/7Rn7dnT.jpg

Dat LeBron impact doe. :oldlol:

[livinglegend]

Another reason why Miami lost, SPOBOT!

Mark Cuban:
'' We put Dirk in position to succeed because we knew what Miami was going to do. They didn't make a lot of adjustments. They kept on playing the Pat Riley way. That increased our confident as the games went by.''

[livinglegend]

What was the difference between last year (2011) and this year (2012)?

Mark Cuban:
'' They ( role players) made their shots.''

[livinglegend]

Mark Cuban:
'' Lebron played a Magic Johnson type of game against us.He needed other guys to step up and they didn't.''

[Heavincent]

What was the difference between last year (2011) and this year (2012)?

Mark Cuban:
'' They ( role players) made their shots.''

And you swear you're not a Lebron stan :oldlol:

[livinglegend]

And you swear you're not a Lebron stan :oldlol:

I m an objective basketball fan. Not a stan of any player or a fan of any team.

[Dragic4Life]

And you swear you're not a Lebron stan :oldlol:
We call it as it is.

[aj1987]

Mark Cuban:
'' Lebron played a Magic Johnson type of game against us.He needed other guys to step up and they didn't.''
Dwyane Wade: 27 PPG on 55%. 9 PPG on 56% in the 4th = Not stepping up.
Chris Bosh: 19 PPG on 41% = Not stepping up.
Chalmers: 12 PPG on 40% from the 3 = Not stepping up.

I guess LeBron needed another 15 PPG scorer, who can hit 45% from the 3 to win (overcome LeBron's choke).
:cheers:

[livinglegend]

Dwyane Wade: 27 PPG on 55%. 9 PPG on 56% in the 4th = Not stepping up.
Chris Bosh: 19 PPG on 41% = Not stepping up.
Chalmers: 12 PPG on 40% from the 3 = Not stepping up.

I guess LeBron needed another 15 PPG scorer, who can hit 45% from the 3 to win (overcome LeBron's choke).
:cheers:

:facepalm
When you have Mike Bibby and Joel Anthony in the starting five, that makes it 3 on 5 offensively. Those 2 defenders are used against Lebron. They play off their man and come as help defenders against Lebron.
Watch the games instead of using useless stats.
Basketball is much more than numbers. Analyse the plays and then come talk.

[sweggeh]

:facepalm
When you have Mike Bibby and Joel Anthony in the starting five, that makes it 3 on 5 offensively. Those 2 defenders are used against Lebron. They play off their man and come as help defenders against Lebron.
Watch the games instead of using useless stats.
Basketball is much more than numbers. Analyse the plays and then come talk.

I analysed the plays and Lebron only scored 3 times from open play. For a final score of 8. Shall I analyse again?

[livinglegend]

Mark Cuban:
'' We ve got 10 guys breaking down games, plays.''

But basketball expert Mr.aj1987' s opinion >> Mark Cuban s opinioin :oldlol: :oldlol:

[livinglegend]

I analysed the plays and Lebron only scored 3 times from open play. For a final score of 8. Shall I analyse again?

yes

[aj1987]

:facepalm
When you have Mike Bibby and Joel Anthony in the starting five, that makes it 3 on 5 offensively. Those 2 defenders are used against Lebron. They play off their man and come as help defenders against Lebron.
Watch the games instead of using useless stats.
Basketball is much more than numbers. Analyse the plays and then come talk.
You're the idiot who is using YT clips of another dude's opinions. I did watch the games. Heck, I've seen the entire series multiple times. Now go whine more. LeBron couldn't win with a 27 PPG SG, 19 PPG PF, and a 12 PPG PG.

Game 4: 3/11 for 6 points and 2 points off of a flop. 0-3 from the 3, 2-4 from the FT line and 4 TOV's as well.

[livinglegend]

You're the idiot who is using YT clips of another dude's opinions. I did watch the games. Heck, I've seen the entire series multiple times. Now go whine more. LeBron couldn't win with a 27 PPG SG, 19 PPG PF, and a 12 PPG PG.

Game 4: 3/11 for 6 points and 2 points off of a flop.

I'm using his clips to support my opinion.
It s a great support because he worked with the Mavs. He was there when they made their game plans. He has hundreds of people analyzing the games, the plays.

Your basketball knowledge is not good. You need to learn more about basketball and then, rewatch the series from another perspective. You dont have as much as knowledge as me and mark cuban.

[Hey Yo]

All you have to do is refer to 2006, and that's death to all LeBron stans.

There will never ever be a caveat attached to Wade's career, that he "needed Lebron to win".

We already saw when Wade was healthy, in his prime, and was equipped with a good supporting cast(Wade teams in 2009 and 2010 were crapola), he could get the team over the hump.

LeBron's 2010 Cleveland team was really not all that different from Wade's 2006 Heat, yet he couldn't get over them hump.

Hell, Shaq was as good against Boston in 2010, as he was against the Dallas Mavericks in 2006...But Bran had his tail tucked in between his ass in game 5. Series was tied at 2-2, coming home, and he dropped 15/7. Used a fake elbow injury as an excuse/cover up for playing like shit. :oldlol:
Interested to see if there's ever been a player (in the modern era) to avg. 16.2 FTA in a 6 game Finals series. In games 5 and 6 combined he received 46FTA.

That 2006 Finals is remembered more for the ref's and Wade's living at the FT line more than he's remembered for winning the title.

[PJR]

Interested to see if there's ever been a player (in the modern era) to avg. 16.2 FTA in a 6 game Finals series. In games 5 and 6 combined he received 46FTA.

That 2006 Finals is remembered more for the ref's and Wade's living at the FT line more than he's remembered for winning the title.

If all you have against Wade is that he shot too many free throws, you've already lost this debate.


Getting to the free line a lot is a GOOD THING, moron. :oldlol:

[aj1987]

I'm using his clips to support my opinion.
It s a great support because he worked with the Mavs. He was there when they made their game plans. He has hundreds of people analyzing the games, the plays.

Your basketball knowledge is not good. You need to learn more about basketball and then, rewatch the series from another perspective. You dont have as much as knowledge as me and mark cuban.
You haven't rebutted any of my FACTS.

Fact 1 - Wade was a beast and didn't have help from his #2.
Fact 2 - Bosh Was playing pretty decently (considering his decline).
Fact 3 - Chalmers shot 40% from the 3 and scored 12 PPG.
Fact 4 - LeBron played and shot like shit in the clutch.
Fact 5 - LeBron scored 8 points on 31% TS in Game 4, along with 4 TOV's.

Inb4 but but but LeBron's teammates played like shit!!11

[Young X]

So his comeback midway through the Pacers series in 2012 wasn't memorable?

His play during the 27 win streak wasn't memorable?

His dominance during the '11 finals wasn't memorable?

Dunk on Kendrick Perkins?

Game 4 against the Spurs last year?

I understand you're upset at the lack of help he gave Bron in the finals but he played well enough to help put Bron and Miami in position to win 3 rings. Stop being ungrateful.

[dreamwarrior]

He was amazing in the first half of g1 finals last year

[livinglegend]

You haven't rebutted any of my FACTS.

Fact 1 - Wade was a beast and didn't have help from his #2.
Fact 2 - Bosh Was playing pretty decently (considering his decline).
Fact 3 - Chalmers shot 40% from the 3 and scored 12 PPG.
Fact 4 - LeBron played and shot like shit in the clutch.
Fact 5 - LeBron scored 8 points on 31% TS in Game 4, along with 4 TOV's.

Inb4 but but but LeBron's teammates played like shit!!11

3 defenders on Lebron. 1 directly on him and 2 helping off. It explains it all.

[aj1987]

3 defenders on Lebron. 1 directly on him and 2 helping off. It explains it all.
Revisionist history. He was doubled/tripled on probably about a quarter of his shots. Almost the same as Wade. Heck, Wade attracted more defensive attention in the '06 Finals.

Are you trying to say that LeBron cannot score when players actually defend him? That would make him a cherry-picking and extremely overrated scorer.

[Lebron23]

Can you guys just ignore the troll? I bet he's having an erection every time you guys responded to his or her posts.

[livinglegend]

Revisionist history. He was doubled/tripled on probably about a quarter of his shots. Almost the same as Wade. Heck, Wade attracted more defensive attention in the '06 Finals.

Are you trying to say that LeBron cannot score when players actually defend him? That would make him a cherry-picking and extremely overrated scorer.

You are ignorant and clearly lack basketball knowledge. I m done wasting my time with you. I need to discuss with people like Mark Cuban, Dragic4life and Roundball. You guys dont know anything.

[aj1987]

You are ignorant and clearly lack basketball knowledge. I m done wasting my time with you. I need to discuss with people like Mark Cuban, Dragic4life and Roundball. You guys dont know anything.
:oldlol:

Just like your idol. You runaway whenever you get owned.

[JellyBean]

Wade had no memorable moments during 2010-14? What in the word you talking about? :confusedshrug:

Game 3 (2011) against the 76ers. Wade had 32 points, 10 rebounds, 1-2 blocks, 2 steals, and if I am not mistaken he had 9 dimes. Not memorable?

Then you move ahead to game 5, against the 76ers, D-Wade had 26/11/7

Or, same year (2011), playoffs against the Celtics in the 1st game, Wade 38 points, 5 dimes, 3 steals, and 2 blocks.

Wade had some memorable moments.

[Hey Yo]

If all you have against Wade is that he shot too many free throws, you've already lost this debate.


Getting to the free line a lot is a GOOD THING, moron. :oldlol:
It's is when it's actually earned and not handed out like candy at a parade.

Like I said, 46FTA in games 5 and 6 and avg. 16.2FTA for the series. Remembered more for the officiating than the actual win.

[aj1987]

It's is when it's actually earned and not handed out like candy at a parade.

Like I said, 46FTA in games 5 and 6 and avg. 16.2FTA for the series. Remembered more for the officiating than the actual win.
LeBron averaged 15.7 FT's a game against the Magic in '09. Yet, you idiots consider it to be one of the GOAT performances. 14.2 over 14 games, as a matter of fact. Heck, LeBron routinely averaged over 13 FTA's/g per series.

[riseagainst]

why is OP so inconsistent?


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271868

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274358

do you ever think for yourself and not jump on a bandwagon?

[PJR]

It's is when it's actually earned and not handed out like candy at a parade.


Wade earned his free throws, and that's why he and the Heat won the 2006 NBA Title.

Wade went to free throw line in the NBA Finals, with the same propensity that he did ALL SEASON. He averaged 10.7 FTA for the 82 game regular season. Him averaging 16 a game over a 6 game sample wasn't some unforeseen circumstance for the 2006 NBA season. It likely happened a handful of times over the course of the regular season. And considering he was at his most aggressive in the Finals, logic will tell you he'd get to the line a ton, in which he did.

Dwyane Wade in 2006 Regular season: 10.7 FTA per game

Dwyane Wade in the 2006 Post-season: 10.9 FTA per game

Identical free throw rate in regular season, and post-season. Sit down, clown.

Next.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The big 3 era or?

Gm 4 vs Boston - 46pts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsXGwmf0i-I)

^one of the best individual performances I've seen in the playoffs (remember being on ISH at the time posting about it too; checkout the sequence from 4:28-6:00, dude hits like 4 consecutive 3's).

Gm 6 vs Indiana, 2012 ECSF - 41pts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VovlaSMsbGY)

^close out game vs indiana; wade completely wrecks shop dropping 41 on lance and paul george (:eek: at that split of the double; nice finish too)

[imdaman99]

Branstans grasping at straws trying to deflect blame from their cowardly deity :oldlol:

[Wally450]

Op just tries to throw shit at the all and hope something sticks.

[b1imtf]

First moment that comes to mind is his 4 point play vs the Bulls, in '11.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

The second half of the pacers series

[dubeta]

You haven't rebutted any of my FACTS.

Fact 1 - Wade was a beast and didn't have help from his #2.
Fact 2 - Bosh Was playing pretty decently (considering his decline).
Fact 3 - Chalmers shot 40% from the 3 and scored 12 PPG.
Fact 4 - LeBron played and shot like shit in the clutch.
Fact 5 - LeBron scored 8 points on 31% TS in Game 4, along with 4 TOV's.

Inb4 but but but LeBron's teammates played like shit!!11


wade fans in no position to talk about bad play since wade still hasnt shown up for the past 3 years

Its like Wade retired after coming up short in 2011, realized he wasnt good enough to lead the team to the chip, became frustrated and basically did nothing since

[choppermagic]

This is the key one that instantly comes ot mind:

http://i.imgur.com/H7flMy5.png

[Crimsonrain777]

why is OP so inconsistent?


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271868

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274358

do you ever think for yourself and not jump on a bandwagon?

damn :roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

What?

2011 ECSF v.s. Boston
4 Point Play @ Chicago in ECF leads comeback
2011 Finals v.s. Dallas
Blocks on Tyson Chandler straight up
2012 ECSF v.s. Indiana
2013 Game 4 Finals

[SpecialQue]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MQmXy-g7bHQ/U55YJiPhrAI/AAAAAAAAHmE/SxmlR-Ep7rk/s1600/leb.gif

[BigBoss]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SilkkTheShocker again.

[miggyme1]

the two full court pass alley oops to lebron
kendrick perkins dunked on him and wade walked down the court staring at him
spin dunk on kendrick perkins



and i think thats about it

[LongLiveTheKing]

2012 against the Pacers him and Bron owned them
Game 4 of the 2013 Finals was amazing

[tpols]

Anyone who plays with Lebron, gets all their achievements trivialized by his Stans all the time.


Take Boobie Gibson for example. He put the team on his back in the 2007 ECF, but never gets credit for it.

Game 1 - gets 5 minutes of playing time; Pistons win
Game 2 - gets 19 minutes; Pistons win
Game 3 - gets 30 minutes; Cavs win
Game 4 - scores 21 points on only 7 FGA; Cavs win
Game 5 - Lebron's best game of his career; Cavs win.
Game 6 - Boobie shoots 7 for 9, and 5 for 5 from 3pt range, scores 31 points, while Lebron shoots 3 for 11; Cavs win series.

When the game was close, look who took over late in the 3rd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG58oZyw538

Bro this shit has happened every time he's won. Do you remeber Shane Battier in the 2012 Finals ?? remember battier in game 7 of 2013 when he hit 6/6 3s and couldnt miss? Ray Allen w/ the biggest save in NBA history.. Mike Miller going unconcious.. brans had shooters carrying him when it counts his whole career.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What?

2011 ECSF v.s. Boston
4 Point Play @ Chicago in ECF leads comeback
2011 Finals v.s. Dallas
Blocks on Tyson Chandler straight up
2012 ECSF v.s. Indiana
2013 Game 4 Finals

Yessir. How about that crossover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvagj1_C2to) on KG? :eek:

Doubt the OP was being sincere, but it's crazy how people forget. Wade was still a monster in '11.

[Legends66NBA7]

Yessir. How about that crossover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvagj1_C2to) on KG? :eek:

That's the first moment I remember when I think of Wade during the Big 3 era. Speaking of just the playoffs here, since when I hear moments, people are discussing that.

[SouBeachTalents]

Forgot about this one as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emXNsKw7a3w

Here's what Simmons had to say about it

"There was a jaw-dropping moment in crunch time when Wade, frustrated by a LeBron brain fart, decided to chew him out like a drill sergeant.The tirade lasted for eight solid seconds before Wade stomped away. No teammate ever would have done this to Bird, Magic, Jordan, Russell, Duncan, Hakeem

[stalkerforlife]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Forgot about this one as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emXNsKw7a3w

Here's what Simmons had to say about it

[B]"There was a jaw-dropping moment in crunch time when Wade, frustrated by a LeBron brain fart, decided to chew him out like a drill sergeant.The tirade lasted for eight solid seconds before Wade stomped away. No teammate ever would have done this to Bird, Magic, Jordan, Russell, Duncan, Hakeem

[Droid101]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Forgot about this one as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emXNsKw7a3w

Here's what Simmons had to say about it

"There was a jaw-dropping moment in crunch time when Wade, frustrated by a LeBron brain fart, decided to chew him out like a drill sergeant.The tirade lasted for eight solid seconds before Wade stomped away. No teammate ever would have done this to Bird, Magic, Jordan, Russell, Duncan, Hakeem

[dubeta]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Forgot about this one as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emXNsKw7a3w

Here's what Simmons had to say about it

"There was a jaw-dropping moment in crunch time when Wade, frustrated by a LeBron brain fart, decided to chew him out like a drill sergeant.The tirade lasted for eight solid seconds before Wade stomped away. No teammate ever would have done this to Bird, Magic, Jordan, Russell, Duncan, Hakeem

[fsvr54]

Dunk on Perkins was viscious

[AcquiringSteak]

are you guys forgetting GAME 4 SPURS 2013 FINALS?!??!?!?!?!?!!

[DaSeba5]

What?

2011 ECSF v.s. Boston
4 Point Play @ Chicago in ECF leads comeback
2011 Finals v.s. Dallas
Blocks on Tyson Chandler straight up
2012 ECSF v.s. Indiana
2013 Game 4 Finals

This. This thread is a joke. Not including all the great moments in the regular season games.

[aj1987]

Yessir. How about that crossover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvagj1_C2to) on KG? :eek:

Doubt the OP was being sincere, but it's crazy how people forget. Wade was still a monster in '11.
God damn! No other player had entertained me more than Wade and Kobe (MJ as well, but I seen most of his games on tape or on the internet). Prime Wade and Kobe are arguably the most most entertaining (excluding MJ) players of all time.

If Wade had LeBron's health, he would've had a top 10 career by now.