View Full Version : Will the Warriors pay Klay next summer?
WeGetRing2012
07-22-2014, 11:15 PM
After Parsons and Hayward's deal Klay will definitely be offered the max (Lakers!). A max offer similar to Hayward's will make him the 2nd highest paid player on the Warriors next season. Yes higher than Curry, Andre, Bogut, and right under Lee. No way he stays.
Inferno
07-22-2014, 11:16 PM
**** man, IDK.
Meticode
07-22-2014, 11:20 PM
Worse per 36 than Waiters offensively. Let that sink in.
HurricaneKid
07-22-2014, 11:21 PM
OF COURSE.
If not they would have traded him for Love.
Worse per 36 than Waiters offensively. Let that sink in.
Shoots 40% from 3 on like 6 attempts and plays defense. Let that sink in.
They havent even paid Steph Curry lol
DMAVS41
07-22-2014, 11:23 PM
OF COURSE.
If not they would have traded him for Love.
This.
And unless he takes a nice discount....he will be grossly overpaid for his actual value.
This is why trading for Love makes so much more sense. It sheds them of the Lee contract as well so they can add other pieces the team sorely needs.
Yankstar
07-23-2014, 12:15 AM
@ ZaaaaaH
F**k you, you attention seeking fa**ot. Go suck your own dick f**king up this page. Get killed in real life :banghead:
the Warriors are so stupid for not pulling the trigger on Love.:banghead:
WeGetRing2012
07-23-2014, 12:36 AM
the Warriors are so stupid for not pulling the trigger on Love.:banghead:
Maybe they were willing to trade for Love but didn't have a long-term commitment from him. Risking loosing Love & Klay.
dubeta
07-23-2014, 12:41 AM
Warriors gonna be screwed when Steph asks for the 22+ Mil max
Dude is so underpaid right now
Magic731
07-23-2014, 12:56 AM
Klay not worth the max. Not even close. Any team that pays him the max is accepting mediocrity for the duration of his contract. Overrated.
Heavincent
07-23-2014, 01:00 AM
the Warriors are so stupid for not pulling the trigger on Love.:banghead:
I don't get why people want the Warriors to throw Thompson in the deal, or the Cavs to trade Wiggins. Once again, the Wolves have NO leverage. If these teams are smart, they'll keep giving the Wolves lowball offers all the way up until the deadline if they have to.
Honestly, Love isn't THAT much better than Lee. It's not worth it for the Warriors to nerf their backcourt just to moderately upgrade the PF position.
Lee, Barnes, and 2 first round picks isn't that bad of a deal all things considered. Hell, that's probably more than what the Hornets got for Chris Paul, or what the Magic got for Howard.
Klay not worth the max. Not even close. Any team that pays him the max is accepting mediocrity for the duration of his contract. Overrated.
If Parsons and Hayward are worth the max, Thompson is too.
EricGordon23
07-23-2014, 01:07 AM
No way should he get the max but he will.
He should get a derozan type contract even though derozan>thompson
Magic731
07-23-2014, 01:07 AM
If Parsons and Hayward are worth the max, Thompson is too.
Except Parsons and Hayward are not worth the max.
DMAVS41
07-23-2014, 01:13 AM
I don't get why people want the Warriors to throw Thompson in the deal, or the Cavs to trade Wiggins. Once again, the Wolves have NO leverage. If these teams are smart, they'll keep giving the Wolves lowball offers all the way up until the deadline if they have to.
Honestly, Love isn't THAT much better than Lee. It's not worth it for the Warriors to nerf their backcourt just to moderately upgrade the PF position.
Lee, Barnes, and 2 first round picks isn't that bad of a deal all things considered. Hell, that's probably more than what the Hornets got for Chris Paul, or what the Magic got for Howard.
For starters...the Wolves aren't trading Love for Lee, Barnes, picks.
And, the most important thing, you'd rather have Love...than Thompson/Lee combining to make like 32 million a year.
Love is a far better player and value than Thompson. Losing Barnes isn't going to kill you either.
The Warriors should want to include Thompson because they aren't going to want to pay him if he they keep him.
This has the Parsons situation written all over it. Except it will be for 17 million plus a season rather than 15 million plus.
Heavincent
07-23-2014, 01:32 AM
For starters...the Wolves aren't trading Love for Lee, Barnes, picks.
And, the most important thing, you'd rather have Love...than Thompson/Lee combining to make like 32 million a year.
Love is a far better player and value than Thompson. Losing Barnes isn't going to kill you either.
The Warriors should want to include Thompson because they aren't going to want to pay him if he they keep him.
This has the Parsons situation written all over it. Except it will be for 17 million plus a season rather than 15 million plus.
Again, this would make sense if the Wolves were negotiating from a position of strength, but they're not. Everyone knows he wants out of Minnesota, hence why they're getting lowball offers from both the Cavs and Warriors. Like I said, look at what New Orleans got for Paul and what Orlando got for Howard, or go all the way back to 04 and see what the Raptors got for Vince Carter...not THAT much really. It just doesn't make much sense to give up highly valuable pieces like Thompson and Wiggins when everyone knows Love is leaving anyway. If the Wolves want to start the season with a guy who doesn't want to be there, then so be it. The offers will only get worse.
The Thompson contract situation is tough. He is a really good player. Hell, one of the best at his position, but he will obviously be looking for a big deal similar to what Parson and Hayward got. In the short term, trading Thompson and Lee for Love doesn't make them better like some people think. I actually think it would make them a little bit worse, but I suppose it would give them more cap flexibility. Maybe the Warriors will live with overpaying Thompson though. Like I said, he is a great player and will only get better.
bdreason
07-23-2014, 02:08 AM
They havent even paid Steph Curry lol
Huh?
We have Curry locked for 5 years at <$12m per year.
And yes, we will pay Klay. We will offer him around $12m per year, just like Curry and Iggy got. Because we have Curry for relatively cheap, overpaying Klay a little won't hurt that much.
bdreason
07-23-2014, 02:11 AM
Warriors gonna be screwed when Steph asks for the 22+ Mil max
Dude is so underpaid right now
We have Curry locked up through the 2017 season at less than $12m per year. Possibly the best (non-rookie) contract in the NBA.
Huh?
We have Curry locked for 5 years at <$12m per year.
And yes, we will pay Klay. We will offer him around $12m per year, just like Curry and Iggy got. Because we have Curry for relatively cheap, overpaying Klay a little won't hurt that much.
I meant pay him his worth.
NugzFan
07-23-2014, 02:19 AM
Huh?
We have Curry locked for 5 years at <$12m per year.
And yes, we will pay Klay. We will offer him around $12m per year, just like Curry and Iggy got.
How do you know this?
ihatetimthomas
07-23-2014, 02:23 AM
Huh?
We have Curry locked for 5 years at <$12m per year.
And yes, we will pay Klay. We will offer him around $12m per year, just like Curry and Iggy got. Because we have Curry for relatively cheap, overpaying Klay a little won't hurt that much.
3 years but still great deal.
So what do you guys do when a deal cannot be agreed upon and he is offered max? Do they keep him?
bdreason
07-23-2014, 02:39 AM
How do you know this?
Just a guess. If I were Warriors GM I would use Iggy and Curry contracts as an argument for Klay taking similar money... something around 5y 60m. Maybe throw in a player option in the final year. Or maybe Klay would actually be interested in a shorter 4y 48m deal with a player option so he could opt out after 3 years and get paid more with the new CBA.
If Klay doesn't sign an extension and some team comes in and offers him a MAX deal next summer? Warriors will probably match. We don't want to pay Klay 15m a year, but you can't just let as asset like that walk away.
ihatetimthomas
07-23-2014, 02:47 AM
Just a guess. If I were Warriors GM I would use Iggy and Curry contracts as an argument for Klay taking similar money... something around 5y 60m. Maybe throw in a player option in the final year. Or maybe Klay would actually be interested in a shorter 4y 48m deal with a player option so he could opt out after 3 years and get paid more with the new CBA.
If Klay doesn't sign an extension and some team comes in and offers him a MAX deal next summer? Warriors will probably match. We don't want to pay Klay 15m a year, but you can't just let as asset like that walk away.
And Klay's agent will go ahead and use Gordon Hayward as a example to why he should get paid max. Not easy sell when a guy near your level got paid that much just this year.
I am not really a believer on guys wanting less years like Lebron to wait for new deal. Lebron is the best player on the planet and has all the leverage in the world. The only guys who can afford to gamble on a short deal and not take guaranteed money is him and Durant. Klay will likely look for the most money and the most years of guaranteed $$ he can get. You never know, maybe he doesnt live up to his hype and he doesnt get paid in his next deal.
DMAVS41
07-23-2014, 02:48 AM
Again, this would make sense if the Wolves were negotiating from a position of strength, but they're not. Everyone knows he wants out of Minnesota, hence why they're getting lowball offers from both the Cavs and Warriors. Like I said, look at what New Orleans got for Paul and what Orlando got for Howard, or go all the way back to 04 and see what the Raptors got for Vince Carter...not THAT much really. It just doesn't make much sense to give up highly valuable pieces like Thompson and Wiggins when everyone knows Love is leaving anyway. If the Wolves want to start the season with a guy who doesn't want to be there, then so be it. The offers will only get worse.
The Thompson contract situation is tough. He is a really good player. Hell, one of the best at his position, but he will obviously be looking for a big deal similar to what Parson and Hayward got. In the short term, trading Thompson and Lee for Love doesn't make them better like some people think. I actually think it would make them a little bit worse, but I suppose it would give them more cap flexibility. Maybe the Warriors will live with overpaying Thompson though. Like I said, he is a great player and will only get better.
I get that, but my point is that the Wolves would honestly probably rather let Love walk than trade him for Lee, Barnes, and a pick. Honestly...I would as well. I don't like either of them, but at least with Thompson the Wolves could perhaps make the playoffs...and if they are all in on winning now...it can be at least defended.
I wouldn't mind the Warriors overpaying Thompson if they also had Kevin Love. It's similar to the Rockets situation...if they had gotten Bosh...they don't mind overpaying Parsons because they have a great chance to win the title for like 4 straight years. But without Bosh...or the equivalent of some sort...paying Parsons 16 a year was silly when you can get Ariza for 8.
Same thing with the Warriors. Paying Thompson 17 million a year or whatever it would take...seems stupid just to run back the same team with Lee/Bogut/Iggy...but that is just me.
ihatetimthomas
07-23-2014, 02:58 AM
I get that, but my point is that the Wolves would honestly probably rather let Love walk than trade him for Lee, Barnes, and a pick. Honestly...I would as well. I don't like either of them, but at least with Thompson the Wolves could perhaps make the playoffs...and if they are all in on winning now...it can be at least defended.
I wouldn't mind the Warriors overpaying Thompson if they also had Kevin Love. It's similar to the Rockets situation...if they had gotten Bosh...they don't mind overpaying Parsons because they have a great chance to win the title for like 4 straight years. But without Bosh...or the equivalent of some sort...paying Parsons 16 a year was silly when you can get Ariza for 8.
Same thing with the Warriors. Paying Thompson 17 million a year or whatever it would take...seems stupid just to run back the same team with Lee/Bogut/Iggy...but that is just me.
Some really good points here. Overpaying guys makes more sense if you have a team that is truly capable of being a contender. Now the Warriors are solid, but they are a piece away from being a legit contender.
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