So Lebron and two "Stars" who've never been to the playoffs are the favorites?

[theoneneo]

:kobe:

This Cleveland team will not work out as smooth as the Miami thing went. Neither Love or Irving have any playoff experience to make a big enough impact.

I'd also like to add that both Love and Irving are the most overrated pieces of turd to ever touch Nba Hardwood

[Beastmode88]

When did Skip Bayless join ISH?

[Real14]

Blame bspn.

[GODbe]

That shouldn't matter. LeBald makes his teammates better:kobe:.

[Roundball_Rock]

Any team with LeBron on the roster automatically becomes a contender. How many players in history can that be said about?

[DMAVS41]

Any team with LeBron on the roster automatically becomes a contender. How many players in history can that be said about?

This isn't true.

[pegasus]

Any team with LeBron on the roster automatically becomes a contender. How many players in history can that be said about?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Is that why he signs with stacked teams only?:lol

[Roundball_Rock]

This isn't true.

I am not saying they become strong contenders but they become plausible. Maybe a truly terrible team like the 14' Sixers is an exception but you could put LeBron on a 30 win team and have him transform them into contenders. Look at Cleveland. They won 33 games last year and did nothing but add a 19 year old and LeBron and are deemed to be a top team.


Is that why he signs with stacked teams only?

Where will the "stacked" Heat be next year without him? :lol

[r15mohd]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Is that why he signs with stacked teams only?:lol


since when is Cleveland stacked? :wtf:

[kkb_12]

Not entirely true - Kevin Love has watched playoff games for many years on TV. That counts for something ?

[GrapeApe]

Where will the "stacked" Heat be next year without him? :lol

Does it matter? Every team and every season is different. If the Heat win 55 games next season it doesn't necessarily mean the '14 Heat were stacked.

[Xiengqichess]

Only Lebron teams up with two other franchise players twice.
Bosh and Wade were superstars, franchise players before teaming up with Lebron. Now Love and Irving are the same. Playoff or not, they're currently the faces of their team.

[choppermagic]

Winning a championship is hard. Fans tend to forget that. So many things have to go right for a team to win it.

Lebron is taking a risk betting on youth and inexperience to support him. That is why the Cavs are looking to vets to try and fill out the roster. No one knows if it will really work. So no, Lebron does not make any team a contender by being on it. If that were the case, Cavs would have signed lebron and stopped recruiting FAs for role players and stopped trying to make deals.

[GimmeThat]

upset happens all the time

[moe94]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Is that why he signs with stacked teams only?:lol

Cavs are stacked? :roll:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Is that why he signs with stacked teams only?:lol
a 33 win team that loses Jack+Zeller and adds Wiggins is "stacked"?

[Real14]

Any team with LeBron on the roster automatically becomes a contender. How many players in history can that be said about?
04- lebron missed playoffs.
05- lebron missed playoffs.

[Roundball_Rock]

04- lebron missed playoffs.
05- lebron missed playoffs.

He joined a 17 win team out of high school and improved them to 35 wins in year one, 42 in year two and 50 in year three. Since he turned 21 he has won at least 60% of his games every year (60%=50 wins over 82 games).

He came out of high school. Compare his first two years with others who came from high school. The rookie year is listed first.

LeBron: 21/6/6, 27/7/7
Kobe: 8/2/1, 15/3/3
KG: 10/6/2, 17/8/3
Kemp: 7/4/0, 15/8/2
Moses (ABA): 19/15/1, 14/10/1

[pegasus]

since when is Cleveland stacked? :wtf:
They're stacked with young talent and draft picks. That will translate to "stacked" once they pull some moves. If they can't, Lebron will bolt next summer and sign with a surer stacked team.

[FLDFSU]

They're stacked with young talent and draft picks. That will translate to "stacked" once they pull some moves. If they can't, Lebron will bolt next summer and sign with a surer stacked team.

:facepalm