BREAKING: Mavs finalizing deal with Jameer Nelson. 2 yrs/6 million

[KendrickPerkins]

Mavs & Jameer Nelson finalizing two-year, $6M deal that will include player option in Year 2. ESPN sources say deal will be completed today
Per Marc Stein

Mavs looking REALLY good.

Jameer Nelson
Monta Ellis
Chandler Parsons
Dirk Nowitzki
Tyson Chandler

Holy shit.

[Olacinco]

Favorite to win the West :bowdown:

[sammichoffate]

Wow. Just wow. Mavs clearly had the best offseason of any team

[imnew09]

Championship Caliber team if they were all a few yrs younger except Parson

[navy]

This would be a scary team 4 years ago.

[SCdac]

Nice! they need another PG desperately

is this Jameers first team other than ORL? good for him to land on a good team

[SOD 21]

A definite championship AARP contending team.

[longtime lurker]

I'm liking all the moves the Mass made this offseason. They won't be championship contenders but they could upset a higher seed. Then and Memphis teams no one wants to meet in the playoffs

[shortsoptional]

I wonder who's starting... Carlisle will use 10+ different lineups anyways...

My guess is:

PG: Devin Harris
SG: Monta Ellis
SF: Chandler Parsons
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Tyson Chandler

And Jameer will be first off the bench to spell either guard spot. Which ever guard other than Ellis has the hot hand that night will close out the game.

But I see Devin starting to guard the opponents best guard.

[(e)]

Mavs made some very solid moves this offseason. Will be very dangerous.

[Finger Roll]

Per Marc Stein

Mavs looking REALLY good.

Jameer Nelson
Monta Ellis
Chandler Parsons
Dirk Nowitzki
Tyson Chandler

Holy shit.

Signing Nelson at this point doesn't exactly warrant a holy shit. Chandler will probably get hurt, so will Jameer, Ellis is Ellis- the guy isn't going to play any better, Vince played great, Dirk is older, Parsons got his contract and probably is the same guy maybe a bit better at best.

First round team.

[kentatm]

This would be a scary team 4 years ago.


thats been how my Mavs have rolled for years :lol

[SCdac]

Hey for the mavs sake... look at who just won the championship, Duncan is like 384382 years old... you don't need a super star to win... just a cohesive unit

[pegasus]

I really hope Dirk has at least one great season left in him. He and the Mavs can make the West even more interesting if they can live up to the hype these offseason moves will generate.

[kentatm]

I wonder who's starting... Carlisle will use 10+ different lineups anyways...

My guess is:

PG: Devin Harris
SG: Monta Ellis
SF: Chandler Parsons
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Tyson Chandler

And Jameer will be first off the bench to spell either guard spot. Which ever guard other than Ellis has the hot hand that night will close out the game.

But I see Devin starting to guard the opponents best guard.

I'm pretty sure they are going to have Harris off the bench b/c they like the way he plays with Wright. At least this is what they will do to start the year. They are still being cautious with his toe b/c the surgery was experimental.

By the end of the year I think Devin will be at a minimum playing starters minutes like Terry did when he was the 6th man. Of course that would require him to remain healthy all year which is kind of a big if with Devin.

[kentatm]

Hey for the mavs sake... look at who just won the championship, Duncan is like 384382 years old... you don't need a super star to win... just a cohesive unit

:cheers:

true true

[~primetime~]

good stuff Cuban :applause:

[DMAVS41]

I'm pretty sure they are going to have Harris off the bench b/c they like the way he plays with Wright. At least this is what they will do to start the year. They are still being cautious with his toe b/c the surgery was experimental.

By the end of the year I think Devin will be at a minimum playing starters minutes like Terry did when he was the 6th man. Of course that would require him to remain healthy all year which is kind of a big if with Devin.

Yea...that's a really good point about Wright/Harris.

[shortsoptional]

I'm pretty sure they are going to have Harris off the bench b/c they like the way he plays with Wright.

Did not even think about that...true.

My thought process was just that they would want some size to start the game out with. Monta surprisingly held his own at the SG position last year...was just thinking for the 6'6''+ SG's, they'd want Devin in there. But I personally don't mind undersized players on the perimeter as much as most.

[KendrickPerkins]

Signing Nelson at this point doesn't exactly warrant a holy shit. Chandler will probably get hurt, so will Jameer, Ellis is Ellis- the guy isn't going to play any better, Vince played great, Dirk is older, Parsons got his contract and probably is the same guy maybe a bit better at best.

First round team.
Well, yer kinda dumb.

[Timmy D for MVP]

I was surprised it took this long for him to get a deal. I figured a team might snatch him up for some veteran bench play. And THE team of veterans got him. I like the fit as long as he stays healthy.

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[smoovegittar]

They watched some Felton film?

[qrich]

My condolences Dallas fans.

JaQueertheFear will now be a fan of your team.

[ihatetimthomas]

Jameer is still a starting caliber pg on a bunch of teams. He is a vet with high bball IQ and will no doubt be a impact player on the Mavs. If Felton was starting, I would be hating it

[ProfessorMurder]

A 2009 all-star team.

[Da Hammer]

Great off season for the Mavs. If Dirk has one last hurrah in him then this team can contend for a championship.

[Smoke117]

The Mavs really need some defensive players. They were bad last year and the moves this summer haven't especially made them better. Tyson Chandler isn't going to have a big enough impact with all the weak defensive players on this team. You can't be a real contender if you don't play defense.

[StephHamann]

My condolences Dallas fans.

JaQueertheFear will now be a fan of your team.
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[Droid101]

My condolences Dallas fans.

JaQueertheFear will now be a fan of your team.
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[DMAVS41]

Great off season for the Mavs. If Dirk has one last hurrah in him then this team can contend for a championship.


The hope in Big D is that Dirk has 3 "last hurrahs" left....

If Dirk can stay at around this level in limited minutes like Duncan was able to these last 2 years...this team could contend each of the next 3 years.

The sick thing is...a couple injuries or bad breaks...and this team could miss the playoffs. Oh how ****ed up the NBA is right now.

[StephHamann]

[/B]

The hope in Big D is that Dirk has 3 "last hurrahs" left....

If Dirk can stay at around this level in limited minutes like Duncan was able to these last 2 years...this team could contend each of the next 3 years.

The sick thing is...a couple injuries or bad breaks...and this team could miss the playoffs. Oh how ****ed up the NBA is right now.

Next year we will have about 30M Capspace, i assume Ellis wont take his Player Option and we will use Bird Rights on him. Future is looking good right now :rockon:

[Dizzle-2k7]

HAHAHA MAVS enjoy the 1st round exit..

parsons and dirk is great.. other than that its all garbage.

no PG, no perimeter defense, tyson is old and unreliable, no rebounding..

theres a reason the Magic went on a Finals run after Jameer got hurt.. he's not any good. ..Rafer Alston carried the PG spot to the Finals

[DMAVS41]

Next year we will have about 30M Capspace, i assume Ellis wont take his Player Option and we will use Bird Rights on him. Future is looking good right now :rockon:

Yea...assuming Chandler is still good. Hopefully he comes back at a good price. We keep Ellis...and continue to add to the roster.

The dream scenario is build a roster good enough to contend these next 3 years....and then we have a good enough team to get Dirk interested enough to sign on for a couple more years and play even a little less and just come in to stretch the floor...etc.

Could be like 5 years of contention kind of like the Spurs pulled out of their asses back in 2010 when it looked like the end.

[Dizzle-2k7]

Could be like 5 years of contention kind of like the Spurs pulled out of their asses back in 2010 when it looked like the end.

5 years of contention .. .. :facepalm

comparing yourself to spurs :facepalm

you dont have the defense and you dont have the great PG play.. you also lack a dominant post presence who can bang downlow (dirk is high post)

mavs fans :roll: :roll:

[pastis]

please no injury next season, dirk playing just 28 min a game and only 65-68 games. would be nice.

btw: if im looking at dirk right now, he seems to get more and more skinny...

[Uncle Drew]

This opens doors for a Mo Williams comeback to Cleveland. Bring him home DG!

[DMAVS41]

please no injury next season, dirk playing just 28 min a game and only 65-68 games. would be nice.

btw: if im looking at dirk right now, he seems to get more and more skinny...

that is good. want to keep the weight off as much as possible. that is exactly what duncan and manu did...and it's paid huge dividends.

[SHABBA]

Would be a great team if this was 2009.

[Da Hammer]

[/B]

The hope in Big D is that Dirk has 3 "last hurrahs" left....

If Dirk can stay at around this level in limited minutes like Duncan was able to these last 2 years...this team could contend each of the next 3 years.

The sick thing is...a couple injuries or bad breaks...and this team could miss the playoffs. Oh how ****ed up the NBA is right now.
Well I expect Dirk to play at a all star level for the next years but for the Mavs to win it all they Dirk to truly have at least 1 more epic playoff run. Dirk really struggled against the Spurs last year. The size of Splitter really bothered him. Although he just seemed off all series. He missed a lot of easy open looks as well. I hope he bounces back from that series with a great year. I'm sure he will. Like you said team just needs to stay healthy. Hopefully Harris is rejuvenated, he played really well against the Spurs and if healthy he could be a 6th man of the year candidate.

[Da Hammer]

that is good. want to keep the weight off as much as possible. that is exactly what duncan and manu did...and it's paid huge dividends.
Yea well the Spurs are just plain stacked from top to bottom. Mavs look good but man that Spurs bench could probably beat some of the bottom feeders in this league. Mills, Ginobili, Diaw could be starters on a lot of other teams. I'm sure they will keep Dirk's minutes down but they don't have quite the luxury that the Spurs have. There will be games in which they will have to play Dirk more minutes than they want or they will lose.

[D-Rose]

HAHAHA MAVS enjoy the 1st round exit..

parsons and dirk is great.. other than that its all garbage.

no PG, no perimeter defense, tyson is old and unreliable, no rebounding..

theres a reason the Magic went on a Finals run after Jameer got hurt.. he's not any good. ..Rafer Alston carried the PG spot to the Finals
Wow...so salty. Your team just won a title, go enjoy it.

[Shade8780]

Mavericks vs Spurs WCF would be so good. Dirk vs Timmy for the last time.

[Nash]

This would be a scary team 4 years ago.
well, they had a scary team that won 4 years ago :D

[bagelred]

Raymond Felton :roll:

[Twiens]

TON of offensive talent, question is whether they can defend/rebound well enough to contend.

[Mr Know It All]

The Mavericks won 49 games last year and gave up huge leads late in 5 games or more because they couldn't trot out a balanced closing lineup. Now you have a team that has significantly upgraded at two positions (SF and C) and is going to have something along these lines to close games:

Ellis
Harris
Parsons
Nowitzki
Chandler

Harris is a very good perimeter defender and we know Chandler's defensive capabilities if healthy. This team can very well be a top 4 team in the West and a contender if they gel right (with Carlisle at the helm you have to like their chances). Their spacing is going to be better with the Parsons addition (Marion starting allowed teams to pack the paint and actually hurt Dirk's offense a lot in the San Antonio series). If Monta (who has been tasked with improving his jumper by the Mavs coaching staff this summer) and Parsons (only 25, motivated and confident) can improve as complete players they will make this squad even more dangerous.

To boot you have low risk high reward guys like Aminu and Greg Smith on the cheap and even Felton has the ability to impress coming off the bench if he comes to camp in shape and with the right mindset.

Of course this team is going to need some breaks. Chandler's health, Nowitzki's continuity as an elite scorer, and an undersized back court. Still, I think the latter is already being overblown, the 2011 team won with Kidd (6'4) and Stevenson (6'5) as their tallest back court players during that run and played with lineups of Kidd, Barea (5'11) and Terry (6'2). Hell they started Barea against the Heat in game 4 and it swung the series.

Very impressive offseason. And as others mentioned they maintain the flexibility to make moves next year (no doubt will be targetting Marc Gasol armed with a max deal on the table).

[fragokota]

OKC SAS DAL LAC are gonna be the top 4 teams in the West. Excellent offseason for Dallas.

[YouGotServed]

lol @ everyone overrating Dallas.

[20Four]

A definite championship AARP contending team.
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[DirkNowitzki41]

lol @ everyone overrating Dallas.

houston fans are salty AF :oldlol:

[DirkNowitzki41]

HAHAHA MAVS enjoy the 1st round exit..

parsons and dirk is great.. other than that its all garbage.

no PG, no perimeter defense, tyson is old and unreliable, no rebounding..

theres a reason the Magic went on a Finals run after Jameer got hurt.. he's not any good. ..Rafer Alston carried the PG spot to the Finals

:roll: :roll: u mad af bro

dirk, monta, parsons >>

[YouGotServed]

houston fans are salty AF :oldlol:

tl;dr

[Draz]

I'm happy for them. Wish them the best of luck.

[poido123]

houston fans are salty AF :oldlol:


You would be to if you're team was lead by two overpaid babies in coward and haren :oldlol:

Houston has a problem alright :rockon:

[WeGetRing2012]

Favorite to win the West :bowdown:

easily.

[Droid101]

No hate, but I think the Mavs got worse. Calderon is being madly underrated and I doubt Tyson can morph out of Magikarp mode at this point in his career.

Parsons is nice, but VC and Marion had SWAG. They are gamers. They're going to be missed.

[Mr Know It All]

No hate, but I think the Mavs got worse. Calderon is being madly underrated and I doubt Tyson can morph out of Magikarp mode at this point in his career.

Parsons is nice, but VC and Marion had SWAG. They are gamers. They're going to be missed.

Calderon was a glorified spot up shooter with Dallas. A lights out one at that, but replaceable nonetheless.

Tyson had one sub par season with a Knicks team that was a mess. He's coming to a better organization, a better training staff, and a coaching staff that will no doubt massage his minutes to prepare him for postseason play.

But yeah, I definitely agree with you, the Mavericks are going to sorely miss that 'swag' next year.:rolleyes:

[Droid101]

But yeah, I definitely agree with you, the Mavericks are going to sorely miss that 'swag' next year.:rolleyes:
Veterans who don't back down (Marion calling LeBron a bitch, VC's huge buzzer beaters) are getting severely underrated in this thread.

But okay. We'll see what happens.

[Mr Know It All]

Veterans who don't back down (Marion calling LeBron a bitch, VC's huge buzzer beaters) are getting severely underrated in this thread.

But okay. We'll see what happens.

Yeah, the Mavericks are really going to be missing that guy who calls people a bitch on their team next year, not to mention Vince for all those buzzer beaters (he hit the one against San Antonio).

Vince and Marion were fine players but both are in their late 30s and declining (Marion in particular). Vince provided a nice spark off the bench but still shot 40% from the field and with the added scoring (Parsons, Chandler) his absence will be patched up. Marion's #1 skill (defense) took a big hit because of his decreased athleticism. Beyond that he is erratic on offense and hurts spacing. You take the youth of Parsons and Aminu, both of whom provide more on the offensive and defensive side respectively than either Carter or Marion at this stage of their careers.

As for the pedigree that you no doubt refer to (the bitch thing), the Mavericks have added some guys (Jameer, Chandler) who both play with a chip on their shoulder.

[DirkNowitzki41]

You would be to if you're team was lead by two overpaid babies in coward and haren :oldlol:

Houston has a problem alright :rockon:

:applause: yessir!

[DirkNowitzki41]

No hate, but I think the Mavs got worse. Calderon is being madly underrated and I doubt Tyson can morph out of Magikarp mode at this point in his career.

Parsons is nice, but VC and Marion had SWAG. They are gamers. They're going to be missed.

Nah, not at all. Calderon is a great shooter but thats it... he is overrated. His play-making ability and assist to t/o ratio is incredibly overrated. Not to mention his defense is the worst ive ever seen, and more importantly, he was a terrible fit with Monta (on defense). I'm glad he is gone.

Tyson is an unknown but till I actually see him play, I'm gonna assume we're getting a rejuvenated Chandler. He was on the Knicks after all... Even if we do get Knicks Chandler, he is still better than Dalembert who is the most inconsistent player I've ever seen. Seriously, 10 games he shows absolutely 0 effort, then has a big game, and then goes back to sleepybert.

VC and Trix is a tough loss but they lost a step and arent getting any younger.

And we got deeper. Even if a lot of things go wrong, I can't see us getting worse

[DirkNowitzki41]

tl;dr

cmon bro. some stuff these rockets fans are saying about every mav related thing is pretty fun. not saying you, but a lot of them are salty as hell

[UK2K]

It's a good signing if he plays better than last season...

39% from the floor. Needs some improvement :lol

[Jameerthefear]

Jameer will carry the Mavs.

[HylianNightmare]

Jameer will carry the Mavs.
Pretty much this

[DMAVS41]

Nah, not at all. Calderon is a great shooter but thats it... he is overrated. His play-making ability and assist to t/o ratio is incredibly overrated. Not to mention his defense is the worst ive ever seen, and more importantly, he was a terrible fit with Monta (on defense). I'm glad he is gone.

Tyson is an unknown but till I actually see him play, I'm gonna assume we're getting a rejuvenated Chandler. He was on the Knicks after all... Even if we do get Knicks Chandler, he is still better than Dalembert who is the most inconsistent player I've ever seen. Seriously, 10 games he shows absolutely 0 effort, then has a big game, and then goes back to sleepybert.

VC and Trix is a tough loss but they lost a step and arent getting any younger.

And we got deeper. Even if a lot of things go wrong, I can't see us getting worse

Carter is a tough loss...it was time for Marion to go.

It's too bad we couldn't squeeze Carter under the cap...hard to believe when dirk took 8 ****ing million only.

Hopefully Parsons is worth it...I'm skeptical of that, but I love everything else we've done.

[huskerdu]

People are REALLY overrating the Mavs. Their ceiling is the second round, Chandler is a shell of what he used to be.

They're a treadmill low seed playoff team.

[Le Shaqtus]

Mavs gonna be my West team to watch, and they were already one of my favourite teams :bowdown:

[DMAVS41]

People are REALLY overrating the Mavs. Their ceiling is the second round, Chandler is a shell of what he used to be.

They're a treadmill low seed playoff team.

Definitely possible.

Missing the playoffs is still possible.

I disagree about the ceiling though...the Mavs have a high ceiling, but low floor.

You really think, for example, the Mavs couldn't beat the Clippers in the 2nd round? That would be impossible? Nah..

[huskerdu]

Definitely possible.

Missing the playoffs is still possible.

I disagree about the ceiling though...the Mavs have a high ceiling, but low floor.

You really think, for example, the Mavs couldn't beat the Clippers in the 2nd round? That would be impossible? Nah..

No it wouldn't be impossible but the Clippers would have won in 6 games.

I'm happy for the Mavs, really like Dirk, but I don't see this offseason as a game changer for them. Just a solid one to keep hovering around 50 game win seasons and not having HCA in the first round.

I don't think their D will be very good, just average.

[YouGotServed]

You would be to if you're team was lead by two overpaid babies in coward and haren :oldlol:

Houston has a problem alright :rockon:

Repped!

[GimmeThat]

I'm just gonna say that if the Mavs lose in the playoff as a higher seed.

we should not place the blame on Dirk.

[DMAVS41]

No it wouldn't be impossible but the Clippers would have won in 6 games.

I'm happy for the Mavs, really like Dirk, but I don't see this offseason as a game changer for them. Just a solid one to keep hovering around 50 game win seasons and not having HCA in the first round.

I don't think their D will be very good, just average.

What do you mean the Clippers would have won in 6? Last yar? Sure, but this coming year we have a completely different team.

I'm not nearly as high on the Mavs as the basketball world seems to be because I'm very skeptical of Parsons being able to provide on court value that matches his salary.

However, if he does match his salary in value...the other moves we made were excellent. We really improved this team in real ways...and with Chandler/Wright expiring...and Felton on an expiring the year after. There is still a lot of wiggle room on the roster.

Nothing is guaranteed...ever...especially with an aging guy like Dirk. But these moves give the team a chance to make noise in the playoffs...and that is all you can ask for.

[BoutPractice]

This is clearly their best lineup since 2011.

You never know what happens in the West, but something like a WCF run within the next 2 years isn't out of the question. Finals or more, I'm skeptical. In the East a Finals run would definitely be achievable, but in the West San Antonio is still the gold standard for collective ball, OKC still has 2 of the best players in the planet with tons of room for improvement, both individually and as a group, and the Clippers still have a dangerous roster.

[DMAVS41]

This is clearly their best lineup since 2011.

You never know what happens in the West, but something like a WCF run within the next 2 years isn't out of the question. Finals or more, I'm skeptical. In the East a Finals run would definitely be achievable, but in the West San Antonio is still the gold standard for collective ball, OKC still has 2 of the best players in the planet with tons of room for improvement, both individually and as a group, and the Clippers still have a dangerous roster.

Yea...put this Mavs team in the East over the next 3 years and it would be a totally different story.

Unfortunately, the West is just so good that a team honestly capable of making a run in the playoffs might not even be in the playoffs.

The Rockets, depending on what they add, could actually miss the playoffs. Yet they could also easily make the conference finals. Just crazy.

[stevieming]

Jameer is a good pickup, hopefully he'll actually play as oppose to just collecting a pay check last season in orlando....

Felton is garbage.....we'll see if he's any good if he comes in shape or not...

I got mavs pegged around 6th seed.....rockets 7th/8th....

[DMAVS41]

Jameer is a good pickup, hopefully he'll actually play as oppose to just collecting a pay check last season in orlando....

Felton is garbage.....we'll see if he's any good if he comes in shape or not...

I got mavs pegged around 6th seed.....rockets 7th/8th....

I'm on the record supporting Felton. I think he'll actually add nice value in 15 to 20 minutes a game playing the Barea type role from 2011.

I see no reason why he can't come in and do that.

Really glad we got Nelson as well...it gives us nice depth at guard now that will be crucial considering injuries are bound to happen.

[stevieming]

I'm on the record supporting Felton. I think he'll actually add nice value in 15 to 20 minutes a game playing the Barea type role from 2011.

I see no reason why he can't come in and do that.

Really glad we got Nelson as well...it gives us nice depth at guard now that will be crucial considering injuries are bound to happen.

dude can play, been watching him since carolina days, but he seems to have lost all effort and edge....and he's such a porker these days..

Nelson is a better pick up.

can't wait to watch mav vs rockets!! D12 & Harden VS parsons and nelson....:lol

[MiseryCityTexas]

Stupid ass Rockets coulda had Jameer Nelson.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Jameer is a good pickup, hopefully he'll actually play as oppose to just collecting a pay check last season in orlando....

Felton is garbage.....we'll see if he's any good if he comes in shape or not...

I got mavs pegged around 6th seed.....rockets 7th/8th....


Jameer actually played good last year for the Magic. A lot better than when he had Dwight on the team with him actually.

[D-Rose]

Mavs are supposedly going to give the all three of the PGs burn, and Devin at the 2 in small ball as well.

I think Jameer is going to look a different guy from the past few years surrounded by scorers like Dirk, Monte, and Parsons.

[kentatm]

Mavs are supposedly going to give the all three of the PGs burn, and Devin at the 2 in small ball as well.

I think Jameer is going to look a different guy from the past few years surrounded by scorers like Dirk, Monte, and Parsons.


hopefully he can get his 3 point % back up to at least 38-39% if not better

[ArbitraryWater]

Lol.. For some reason whenever someone says "Jameer", I think of Jameer the poster :oldlol:

That's how often his name has been dropped

[dr.hee]

Lol.. For some reason whenever someone says "Jameer", I think of Jameer the poster :oldlol:

That's how often his name has been dropped

Don't see why you're confusing them. Jameer the NBA player is 10 years younger and black. :confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Lol.. For some reason whenever someone says "Jameer", I think of Jameer the poster :oldlol:

That's how often his name has been dropped

Probably because you've been posting on ISH longer than you've been watching basketball.

[DMAVS41]

hopefully he can get his 3 point % back up to at least 38-39% if not better

I really think he can.

He's going to get some wide open looks...perhaps 1 or 2 a game of just being straight up wide open.

Assuming he takes around 4 a game...i could definitely see his percentage about 40 at the end of the year.

[oarabbus]

Don't see why you're confusing them. Jameer the NBA player is 10 years younger and black. :confusedshrug:

:lol

[PickernRoller]

I can't believe DMavs41 is still acting like a Mavs fan after all these years...:oldlol: :oldlol: :facepalm :oldlol:

[GimmeThat]

Calderon wasn't nessecarily a good fit with the Mavs.

I don't see Jameer's role being that different than from his.
Only they have more depth at that position now.

which gives Rick the possibility to explore against opponent line ups
because Jameer might have an edge against the opposing second unit over Calderon.

[DMAVS41]

Calderon wasn't nessecarily a good fit with the Mavs.

I don't see Jameer's role being that different than from his.
Only they have more depth at that position now.

which gives Rick the possibility to explore against opponent line ups
because Jameer might have an edge against the opposing second unit over Calderon.


if our guards are healthy, we won't miss calderon at all. in fact, i'd argue we've improved that position now. last year calderon played 31 minutes a game with Harris playing 20...in the regular season.

this year i see it as harris probably playing 25 minutes a game...with nelson playing around 25...and felton playing around 15.

calderon was horrific defensively...and nelson is definitely a better defender. even felton is a better defensive player and I'd imagine we'll see felton have a really high "give-a-shit" level this year.

where we will be hurt is at sg...vince played 25 minutes a night last year and he was great on both ends for us.

But Calderon's 11/2/5 in 31 minutes a game with horrid defense? Nah...we aren't gonna miss that much at all now that we have Nelson. I also think Gal Mekel might be able to give us so minutes as well if need be. He'll definitely be improved over last year.

And I like Calderon as a player a lot...you just can't play him next to a guy like ellis at sg. He needs to play next to avery bradly or tony allen...or shumpert. Calderon/Shumpert is going to be great.

[CJ Mustard]

What's the Mavs plan? Are they trying to win now? They have a deep team, but they don't have anyone capable of leading them to the title on it. It looks like they're setting themselves up for first and second round exits over the next few years.

[DMAVS41]

What's the Mavs plan? Are they trying to win now? They have a deep team, but they don't have anyone capable of leading them to the title on it. It looks like they're setting themselves up for first and second round exits over the next few years.

It's to hopefully get hot in the playoffs and make a run...which I don't think is impossible like you do.

Also, we will have room to get better next summer when Chandler and Wright come off the books for over 20 million. Plus Felton can be salary dumped to open up more space as well.

This is, in my opinion, definitely a team good enough to make a run in the playoffs.

We just saw the Spurs win a title without a player as good as Dirk was overall last year. Not saying that the Mavs are as good, but definitely fit in that mold of solid vet players all over and a great coach.

It's definitely possible, but yea...most likely the Mavs won't win a title over the next 3 years. But at least we are trying and going all in. Sometimes this stuff doesn't work out...and for once, I can't fault the strategy of Nellie and Cuban post 2011. They've made some mistakes like Odom, Kaman, Collison, West, Calderon, and Mayo, but the strategy was sound...the pieces just didn't work out.

From 01 through 10...the strategy was flawed....and we kind of lucked into 2011. Kind of sick that as Dirk declines...we finally start building proper teams around him. But truly better late than never. Hopefully we get 1 or 2 runs in the coming years. My hope is that we build a team good enough in 3 years that Dirk will stick around 2 more years to play off the bench or just 20 to 25 minutes a game. Definitely possible if Parsons turns into a star.

[thefatmiral]

they are the spurs of dallas

[creepingdeath]

What's the Mavs plan? Are they trying to win now? They have a deep team, but they don't have anyone capable of leading them to the title on it. It looks like they're setting themselves up for first and second round exits over the next few years.
Oh, you...
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/457096/thumbs/s-DIRK-large.jpg
"But, but... a Dirk-led team will never win a championship."
:roll:

[kentatm]

What's the Mavs plan? Are they trying to win now? They have a deep team, but they don't have anyone capable of leading them to the title on it. It looks like they're setting themselves up for first and second round exits over the next few years.


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sorry brah but you lost all rights to commenting on Dirk led teams in 2011

[DirkNowitzki41]

Oh, you...
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/457096/thumbs/s-DIRK-large.jpg
"But, but... a Dirk-led team will never win a championship."
:roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

that pic and caption :bowdown: