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poido123
07-25-2014, 10:51 PM
I want to see people put their names to him becoming a flop number 1 pick.

If you truly believe this guy is whack and will be nothing but a role player, put your name in this thread and post FLOP

For those of you who think he will be a solid starter one day and post up 18/8 totals, post STUD

For those of you who have balls of steel and think he will be an all-star one day AND post 18/8 or better stats, post STUD and BALLS OF STEEL.

I hope this new concept of voting is something a little different and interesting :cheers:

No more sitting on the fence...

Bump the thread in 5 years and see where we are at and who got it right :lol

SpecialQue
07-25-2014, 10:52 PM
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/51a63ee26bb3f7bd15000003/lebron-james-flop-knicks-2012.gif

Magic731
07-25-2014, 10:53 PM
I don't think he will ever reach the heights a number 1 pick should. His ceiling is simply a solid role player.

GODbe
07-25-2014, 10:53 PM
Flop, he's just a fatter Kwame Brown. LeBald will make sure he doesnt reach anywhere near Kwame's ceiling though.

Warfan
07-25-2014, 10:54 PM
STUD

IIRC when he played decent minutes last season he played fairly well. Now he's in better shape and is more healthy. He has a nice handle, his jumper looks solid, good explosion and I think his rebounding will turn into a huge strength of his too.

poido123
07-25-2014, 10:57 PM
Appreciate the responses guys.

I'm going with STUD and BALLS of STEEL

hangintheair
07-25-2014, 10:59 PM
If transfer to Minny - will rise

If remain with Cavs - be a solid role player

buddha
07-25-2014, 11:01 PM
flaccid, nothing more than a role player/sixth man

UK2K
07-25-2014, 11:04 PM
I think he has a better chance of rising now that the Cavs got Lebron.

They had no leaders on the team. The circus with Bynum/Kyrie/Deng was evidence.

poido123
07-25-2014, 11:05 PM
If transfer to Minny - will rise

If remain with Cavs - be a solid role player


Thanks for the responses guys, keep em coming.

Under the criteria, solid role player is in between STUD and FLOP

Please choose either FLOP, STUD or STUD and BALLS of STEEL.

Just makes it easier to draw a clear line...cheers :cheers:

Magic731
07-25-2014, 11:07 PM
In that case I'm going flop.

TheMilkyBarKid
07-25-2014, 11:09 PM
Largely depends on blatt's coaching, the rotation, who he shares the court with. I think he will become a solid role player this season. He appears to a good catch and shoot player and looks like a good cutter in summer league, which is good considering lebron, Kyrie, waiters and maybe even wiggins will likely be handl

Warfan
07-25-2014, 11:09 PM
Won't lie I didn't watch many cavs games last year. But here were his statlines for when he played 20+ minutes (8 games, played 31 minutes in 1 game):

15/8
19/10
11/1
10/11
4/2
14/8
8/6
6/5

Some solid games there :confusedshrug:

poido123
07-25-2014, 11:10 PM
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/51a63ee26bb3f7bd15000003/lebron-james-flop-knicks-2012.gif


Nice use of the flop selection. :lol

Accepted.

sejoon101
07-25-2014, 11:13 PM
Flop

Richesly
07-25-2014, 11:21 PM
I'm sure he'll have a better sophomore year. Especially with LeBron on his team.

He may come off the bench, but I expect him to put up atleast 10/6 a game.

To4
07-25-2014, 11:22 PM
Im leaning towards flop by 70%..

JtotheIzzo
07-25-2014, 11:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcC-SbcihKI

poido123
07-25-2014, 11:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcC-SbcihKI


What say you Cleveland man?

FLOP, STUD OR Solid starter, ALL-STAR?

poido123
07-25-2014, 11:26 PM
Im leaning towards flop by 70%..


FLOP it is :cheers:

70% is enough to lock you in for FLOP

Sarcastic
07-25-2014, 11:30 PM
Matthew Dellavedova, Alonzo Gee, Earl Clark, Andrew Bynum.


Who are just several of the Cavaliers that had a better PER than Anthony Bennett last year.

poido123
07-25-2014, 11:36 PM
Matthew Dellavedova, Alonzo Gee, Earl Clark, Andrew Bynum.


Who are just several of the Cavaliers that had a better PER than Anthony Bennett last year.


Are you locking in flop?

I have good reason to believe that is an anomaly

rightsideup
07-25-2014, 11:40 PM
solid role play er 11 pt 6 reb comes of the bench of playoff or .5oo team

TheGreatDeraj
07-25-2014, 11:41 PM
Shouldn't this thread wait until we see if he stays with the Cavs or is traded?

If he is playing on the Cavs with Lebron and Love, then I doubt he reaches 18/8 or All Star.

poido123
07-25-2014, 11:41 PM
solid role play er 11 pt 6 reb comes of the bench of playoff or .5oo team


Thanks bro.

Welcome to ISH BTW :cheers:

poido123
07-25-2014, 11:48 PM
Shouldn't this thread wait until we see if he stays with the Cavs or is traded?

If he is playing on the Cavs with Lebron and Love, then I doubt he reaches 18/8 or All Star.


You're welcome to wait until after any trades are made.

I think regardless of the situation he's in, he will be at least an 18\8 player.

I think he will be an all-star too.

JimmyMcAdocious
07-25-2014, 11:50 PM
I think he peaks relatively high and then completely falls of the planet soon after. Like a slow build up to ~20/10 for two seasons and then he's out of the league (or might as well be out of the league) two seasons later type of deal.

Why? Because why the **** not.

poido123
07-26-2014, 12:05 AM
I think he peaks relatively high and then completely falls of the planet soon after. Like a slow build up to ~20/10 for two seasons and then he's out of the league (or might as well be out of the league) two seasons later type of deal.

Why? Because why the **** not.

So STUD and All-Star? Or just STUD...

18/8 or better at some point in his career.

Thanks for the response, plus the added wild prediction :oldlol:

9512
07-26-2014, 12:12 AM
FLOP for me.

He has a better chance to fail than to live up to an above average career. The status of #1 elevates expectations too high and it's not his fault.

Failing to me is him being a bench player at best who is not part of the crunch time rotation. He may get ~ 18 MPG ~4.5 PPG, ~3.2 RPG so the starters will rest near before halftime and he'll play a couple of minutes early in the 3rd and 4th quarter that's it.

I hope for his sake I am wrong on my prediction.:roll:

NattyPButter
07-26-2014, 12:27 AM
He could be good with Lebron yelling at him and teaching him. Right now his basketball IQ is low. Horrible defense and he shoots the ball with so much time left on the clock.

Wavves
07-26-2014, 12:47 AM
He'll be a decent player. Had so many things going against him last season, and I believe he will bounce back starting this upcomimg season.

He probably won't ever warrant that #1 selection, but he will have a solid career.

El Gato Negro
07-26-2014, 02:27 AM
Won't lie I didn't watch many cavs games last year. But here were his statlines for when he played 20+ minutes (8 games, played 31 minutes in 1 game):

15/8
19/10
11/1
10/11
4/2
14/8
8/6
6/5

Some solid games there :confusedshrug:
spot on even tho you dont watch the cavs, bennett looked better than people give him credit for. we saw flashes last year. my vote will be solid starter but never a star.

Meticode
07-26-2014, 02:28 AM
:oldlol: "Oooooh shit!"

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/anthony-bennett-jumps-when-touched-with-powerade-against-knicks.gif

J Shuttlesworth
07-26-2014, 02:29 AM
He will be a decent player, but not an all star. Hopefully he can just be a solid role player. That was a weak ass draft class

BrownEye007
07-26-2014, 05:17 AM
I made a thread a while ago about Anthony Bennett someday being really good So STUD and BALLS OF STEEL.

Phantom84
07-26-2014, 12:46 PM
I know the 2013 draft class was weak but I really want to know what the Cav's mindset was to pick this guy overall as Number 1. What did he exhibit for them to go out on the limb and draft him 1st overall?

FLDFSU
07-26-2014, 01:00 PM
OP: This is about the 25th post about the Cavs you have made this week. Just a month ago you posted every single day about the Heat.

Why the sudden change?

wakencdukest
07-26-2014, 01:09 PM
He will rise and be a stud

Crimsonrain777
07-26-2014, 02:00 PM
between flop and stud but closer to the stud side

DMAVS41
07-26-2014, 02:13 PM
If he stays on the Cavs I bet he turns into a really nice player because he's going to hugely benefit from being on the court with Lebron.

If he ends up on a rebuilding Wolves team? Could be trouble for him...

But I do think he's talented and if he can develop that 3 point range...he'll find a nice role on just about any team.

But that is the issue with the Love trade. The truth is that if Bennett is any good...they already have a nice stretch forward. The Cavs should trade for better centers if that is the case honestly.

If Bennett is good? Cavs should trade Waiters and a first and 2nd rounder for Larry Sanders and Middelton or something.

That actually addresses what this team desperately needs the most.

Also allows them to keep Wiggins. They could have elite defenders at sg in Wiggins, sf in Lebron, and center in a Sanders/Andy pairing.

If Bennett was good. They could run Bennett/Middelton/Miller at there as stretch 4's and either go small or big.

I'd much rather do that than gut the team for Love to be honest if some of those crazy deals are true.

The big issue with this team as well is Thompson. He really doesn't fit.

poido123
07-26-2014, 06:24 PM
OP: This is about the 25th post about the Cavs you have made this week. Just a month ago you posted every single day about the Heat.

Why the sudden change?


NEWSFLASH:

Lebron returning to Cleveland and the love trade are the biggest topics on ISH

I post about a lot of stuff(should have a look in my team forum) but you already knew that right? Doesn't suit your agenda...

poido123
07-26-2014, 06:25 PM
He will rise and be a stud


Locked in.

Thanks for the response. :applause:

RedBlackAttack
07-26-2014, 06:29 PM
I'm pretty positive Bennett will not flop. He is simply too athletic and his skillset is in too much demand in today's NBA for him to fail completely. I just don't see it. He's already a good rebounder with the potential to be an elite rebounder. He has a solid outside shooting stroke and can knock down shots with consistency out beyond the three-point line. He can get up and down the floor well for a big man.

That's where he is right now. Even on those traits alone, he should have a long NBA career. And, I expect him to improve pretty drastically as he matures. His game is still a little raw in certain areas... he can get a bit unsure of himself and his basketball IQ can fall off the map at times, but that isn't uncommon for very young guys, especially ones under the microscope like AB.

I'd say he'll at least be a 15/8 guy in his NBA career and he has the potential to be a 20/10 guy. Interestingly enough, his skillset would fit perfectly alongside LeBron. I'm just not sure he's going to be here. If he is, I honestly believe he has the potential to win MIP in 2014-15.

poido123
07-26-2014, 06:30 PM
If he stays on the Cavs I bet he turns into a really nice player because he's going to hugely benefit from being on the court with Lebron.

If he ends up on a rebuilding Wolves team? Could be trouble for him...

But I do think he's talented and if he can develop that 3 point range...he'll find a nice role on just about any team.

But that is the issue with the Love trade. The truth is that if Bennett is any good...they already have a nice stretch forward. The Cavs should trade for better centers if that is the case honestly.

If Bennett is good? Cavs should trade Waiters and a first and 2nd rounder for Larry Sanders and Middelton or something.

That actually addresses what this team desperately needs the most.

Also allows them to keep Wiggins. They could have elite defenders at sg in Wiggins, sf in Lebron, and center in a Sanders/Andy pairing.

If Bennett was good. They could run Bennett/Middelton/Miller at there as stretch 4's and either go small or big.

I'd much rather do that than gut the team for Love to be honest if some of those crazy deals are true.

The big issue with this team as well is Thompson. He really doesn't fit.

You're right.

Rim protection should be their number one priority now. If they get love, they really need to explore trades to get a sanders type in...

If I were the cavs, I'd ignore the love trade and try and get a sanders...what about okafor? Is he around or signed...

DMAVS41
07-26-2014, 06:47 PM
You're right.

Rim protection should be their number one priority now. If they get love, they really need to explore trades to get a sanders type in...

If I were the cavs, I'd ignore the love trade and try and get a sanders...what about okafor? Is he around or signed...

Okafor would be fine if they didn't get Sanders as a fill in, but a guy like Sanders could be great long term...and could be a steal at 11 million a year with cap increases coming down the pipe.

Andy would be a great option as a backup going forward as well. He's older now, but in less minutes he'd be great. But you'd need a 3rd guy because Andy is always hurt...like always hurt. Thompson, if he doesn't cost too much, would actually work there a bit as well.

I don't think many understand how much trouble the Cavs could be in here at center with only Andy/Haywood. Haywood isn't good...and Andy has only played like 140 games in the last 4 years combined.

I still say the best thing to do would be to get Love, but it depends on the price. If it's what reports were last week? Absolutely not. No way.

I really think they could turn waiters, filler, and a first rounder into Sanders and Middelton. I just bet the Bucks really do want to just clear the books and move Sanders, Mayo, and Illyasova. And getting Waiters while clearing Sanders...and a first rounder is nice. And that prevents the team from having to even play Mayo much.

Irving/Delladova
Wiggins/Allen
Lebron/Miller
Bennett/Thompson
Sanders/Andy/Haywood

Still have 2 first rounders and the Haywood contract to make a trade.

If Bennett and Wiggins play even close to their expected value. That team is scary good and can play elite on both sides of the ball.

I'd much rather take a chance on Sanders than gut the team for Love...with no prospects at center and a maxed out cap and no assets at all to get better internally.

DMV2
07-26-2014, 06:49 PM
I think Bennett will have a similar career as Larry Johnson, Anthony Mason or Lamar Odom.

A couple of All-Star appearance and either a 6th Man or MIP award like LJ or Mase. Or 3rd option on a championship team like Odom.

Let's just hope he doesn't start smoking crack anytime soon. :oldlol:

hawksdogsbraves
07-26-2014, 08:57 PM
Flop.

I can't get the image of Demare Carroll torching him offensively out of my head. One of the worst defensive jobs I've ever seen out of an NBA player. Even if his offense develops he'll NEVER be a capable defender. Feet are too slow.

RoundMoundOfReb
07-26-2014, 09:58 PM
Flop

Meticode
07-26-2014, 09:59 PM
No one was worth that #1 pick in the draft. Not even Noel. In any case I think he could make the all-star one or two times if he puts in the work.

I think he'll rise because I like to be optimistic.

DukeDelonte13
07-26-2014, 10:01 PM
Flop.

I can't get the image of Demare Carroll torching him offensively out of my head. One of the worst defensive jobs I've ever seen out of an NBA player. Even if his offense develops he'll NEVER be a capable defender. Feet are too slow.

his 1 on 1 D hasn't really been all that bad. He struggles with rotations, but his individual defense and rebounding were some of the better things he dad last year. He doesn't have slow feet, D's just never really been part of his game. He was terrible at UNLV defensively.

mugiwara
07-26-2014, 10:04 PM
Stud/all star. Been saying this from the start.

hawksdogsbraves
07-26-2014, 10:49 PM
his 1 on 1 D hasn't really been all that bad. He struggles with rotations, but his individual defense and rebounding were some of the better things he dad last year. He doesn't have slow feet, D's just never really been part of his game. He was terrible at UNLV defensively.

I didn't get to see him a lot, (hard to when he played 10 mins per game) but from what I did see his man defense looked atrocious.