View Full Version : My new take on Kobe's ranking...
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 12:57 AM
He's top 3 all time. 1. MJ. 2. Kareem. 3. Kobe.
Most ever first team ALL-NBA selections.
Most ever first team ALL-DEFENSE selections.
31,700 points and counting. (4th all time)
Top 5 in MVP voting 11 straight seasons.
5 rings as a 1, 1b, or 2.
5,640 playoff points. (3rd all time)
Most ever consecutive all-star games. (16)
2nd most 60 point games all time.
3rd most 50 point games all time.
3rd most 40 point games all time.
2nd most 30 point playoff games all time.
4th most 40 point playoff games all time.
7th most 30 point finals games all time.
3rd most playoff seasons averaging 30+ all time.
NZStreetBaller
07-27-2014, 12:59 AM
oh what an awesome thread........ how long till all the haters show up:rolleyes:
Bill Russel 11 Rings as 1a 1b or 2.
/thread
BlkMambaGOAT
07-27-2014, 01:03 AM
He's top 3 all time. 1. MJ. 2. Kareem. 3. Kobe.
Most ever first team ALL-NBA selections.
Most ever first team ALL-DEFENSE selections.
31,700 points and counting. (4th all time)
Top 5 in MVP voting 11 straight seasons.
5 rings as a 1, 1b, or 2.
5,640 playoff points. (3rd all time)
Most ever consecutive all-star games. (16)
2nd most 60 point games all time.
3rd most 50 point games all time.
3rd most 40 point games all time.
2nd most 30 point playoff games all time.
4th most 40 point playoff games all time.
7th most 30 point finals games all time.
3rd most playoff seasons averaging 30+ all time.
Finally, a poster who understands:cheers: :cheers:
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:03 AM
7th most assists in playoffs all time.
5th most steals in playoffs all time.
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:04 AM
Finally, a poster who understands:cheers: :cheers:
Just trying to spread the honest news, my friend. :cheers:
Justice will prevail.
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:06 AM
Most game winning shots in NBA history.
imnew09
07-27-2014, 01:07 AM
Just trying to spread the honest news, my friend. :cheers:
Justice will prevail.
Well stated facts . Fk em haters and fk Bill Russel for playing against white midgets
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:08 AM
Well stated facts . Fk em haters and fk Bill Russel for playing against white midgets
I heard that.
Make sure to vote for Kobe in russwest00's thread about the top 10 all time.
I voted Kobe #3 all time.
SuperPippen
07-27-2014, 01:10 AM
Kobe stan circle jerk up in here.
Most game winning shots in NBA history.
Most game losing bricks too.
Jordan was significantly more effective on game winners, he took way less and only made ~3? Less
LeBron has as many game winners in the playoffs as Kobe already FWIW
dubeta
07-27-2014, 01:13 AM
All his scoring stats are redundant because:
1) He played 18 years far more than most greats, so more years to add to scoring, heck if you look at points per game for career he's far down that list
2) hes a 45% chucker
So take out beans "scoring feats" and what are we left with?
2/7 FMVP (1 is questionable)
1/18 MVP
in 18 years
18 years....
No argument for top 10
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:14 AM
Most game losing bricks too.
Jordan was significantly more effective on game winners, he took way less and only made ~3? Less
LeBron has as many game winners in the playoffs as Kobe already FWIW
Your point? That's alpha.
I don't want an all time great deferring time and time again.
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:14 AM
All his scoring stats are redundant because:
1) He played 18 years far more than most greats, so more years to add to scoring, heck if you look at points per game for career he's far down that list
2) hes a 45% chucker
So take out beans "scoring feats" and what are we left with?
2/7 FMVP (1 is questionable)
1/18 MVP
in 18 years
18 years
No argument for top 10
I don't think anyone takes you seriously, bro. :roll:
Your point? That's alpha.
I don't want an all time great deferring time and time again.
In the playoffs LeBron James is much more likely to bit a game winner than Kobe Bryant. This is based on factual evidence.
dubeta
07-27-2014, 01:16 AM
I don't think anyone takes you seriously, bro. :roll:
Was I incorrect?
Was I incorrect?
Yeah, Kobe's really not that inefficient at all.
Smoke117
07-27-2014, 01:19 AM
Your take, huh? Besides your first sentence when you weren't copying and pasting stats when did your take come into fruition? :rolleyes:
toxicxr6
07-27-2014, 01:23 AM
To be on my all time top 5 list.. And this is extending out to the top 10 now..
You must win "MULTIPLE" of each of the following categories
*Rings
* FMVP
*MVP
I don't want to hear excuses at why Kobe only won 1 MVP.. You don't belong on the GOAT top 10 list if you were the best player in the league for just 1 year...
Sorry Kobe stans..
/thread
SuperPippen
07-27-2014, 01:24 AM
I don't think anyone takes you seriously, bro. :roll:
Like anyone takes you and your clan of Kobe worshiping clowns seriously? :roll:
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:25 AM
To be on my all time top 5 list.. And this is extending out to the top 10 now..
You must win "MULTIPLE" of each of the following categories
*Rings
* FMVP
*MVP
I don't want to hear excuses at why Kobe only won 1 MVP.. You don't belong on the GOAT top 10 list if you were the best player in the league for just 1 year...
Sorry Kobe stans..
/thread
Shaq's not top 10? Hakeem?
MVP is a media award and a popularity vote.
toxicxr6
07-27-2014, 01:29 AM
Shaq's not top 10? Hakeem?
MVP is a media award and a popularity vote.
That's why I said it's extending out to the top 10.. Hakeem and shaq are both near the bottom end of the top 10.. Both ahead of Kobe
That's my unquestionable criteria for top 5.. You must have multiple of all 3... Kobe never will
Oh and there is one thing Kobe will always be the goat for
Most missed shots in history.. There is no way in hell anyone will break that record.. Congrats kobe
And if the MVP is a popularity contest then how did Kobe only get 1?? Your Kobe bashing right there.. Kobe is super popular...
HurricaneKid
07-27-2014, 01:46 AM
Most ever first team ALL-DEFENSE selections.
This is emblematic of why everyone laughs at the notion that Kobe is a top player of all time.
We know that he has been a below average defender over the course of his massively long career. Yet you want to pretend that his defense is among the best ever. Its hard to have a conversation when you are that far outside statistical evidence.
He has never been in the top 5 in RAPM, top 2 in WS or PER, etc.
He is a compiler. Nothing wrong with that but it isn't anywhere near top 8.
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:49 AM
That's why I said it's extending out to the top 10.. Hakeem and shaq are both near the bottom end of the top 10.. Both ahead of Kobe
That's my unquestionable criteria for top 5.. You must have multiple of all 3... Kobe never will
Oh and there is one thing Kobe will always be the goat for
Most missed shots in history.. There is no way in hell anyone will break that record.. Congrats kobe
And if the MVP is a popularity contest then how did Kobe only get 1?? Your Kobe bashing right there.. Kobe is super popular...
Kobe was hated for most of his career, dude.
stalkerforlife
07-27-2014, 01:52 AM
This is emblematic of why everyone laughs at the notion that Kobe is a top player of all time.
We know that he has been a below average defender over the course of his massively long career. Yet you want to pretend that his defense is among the best ever. Its hard to have a conversation when you are that far outside statistical evidence.
He has never been in the top 5 in RAPM, top 2 in WS or PER, etc.
He is a compiler. Nothing wrong with that but it isn't anywhere near top 8.
The coaches in the league, not the fans or media hacks, disagree with your sentiment. They know a little something, one could assume.
He may have ever been top whatever in your geeky stats, but it damn sure didn't stop him from winning 5 rings and making 7 finals.
Prometheus
07-27-2014, 01:56 AM
good lord kobetards are the worst
GimmeThat
07-27-2014, 02:21 AM
you know what 44 games in the playoff in 2 years can do to your ranking in terms of all time list?
CJ Mustard
07-27-2014, 04:36 AM
Top 3? :oldlol: Yeah, a top 3 Laker in the modern era. Top 15-20 player of all time at best.
played0ut
07-27-2014, 05:01 AM
Well stated facts . Fk em haters and fk Bill Russel for playing against white midgets
I heard that.
Make sure to vote for Kobe in russwest00's thread about the top 10 all time.
I voted Kobe #3 all time.
Lol you guys are adorable, really. Try bridging eras and see what happens.
>Bill Russell played Wilt. Wilt put up huge numbers against Russell and vice versa. (impact and output are 'even')
>Wilt played against Kareem (who you guys actually acknowledge). Wilt put huge numbers against Kareem and vice versa. (impact and output are 'even')
>Kareem played with Magic. Both put crazy numbers up. (impact and output are even)
>Magic played MJ. (impact and output are 'even')
>MJ played Kobe. (impact and output are 'even')
>Kobe played Lebron. (impact and output are 'even')
>Lebron playing with Durant. (impact and output are 'even')
Yeah, game changes and evolves. But all time greats will transcend eras.
Y'all see what i'm saying? Acknowledge the Russell. :pimp:
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