How come Gasol has never won a playoff game without Kobe but with him won 2 rings

[rule1223]

and made 3 finals, and its not like he didnt have a good supporting cast, he had dwight howard and nash in 2013. I mean the west is tough so i dont blame him for not winning a series but not even a game?!

[Akrazotile]

Uhh, it wasnt kobrick that made the difference for Pau, it was Fisher and Phil.

You know, the alltime leaders in playoff wins as a coach and player respectively..


When you add a smart, savvy post player like pau to a smart and savvy pg and coach, you can carry even the most overrated inefficient chucker to a few finals.

[qrich]

2005:
Had decent point guard in Jason Williams and Mike Miller scored double digits, but after that, he had Lo Wright, Brian Cardinal, Stro Swift and Battier.

2006:
Key rotation guys included, a done 34 year old Eddie Jones. 31 Year old Sucky Chucky Atkins. 32 year old Bobby Jackson. Jake Tsakalidis, Shane Battier, Hakim Warrick, Lorenzen Wright and Dahntay Jones.

:eek:

[DMAVS41]

because gasol didn't have great teams in memphis...and because he's better suited to be a 2nd option.

oh...and because Kobe is one of the best players ever.:hammerhead:

[rule1223]

Uhh, it wasnt kobrick that made the difference for Pau, it was Fisher and Phil.

You know, the alltime leaders in playoff wins as a coach and player respectively..


When you add a smart, savvy post player like pau to a smart and savvy pg and coach, you can carry even the most overrated inefficient chucker to a few finals.
fisher has never won a ring without kobe and jackson has never won a ring without 2 superstars until kobe

[Akrazotile]

fisher has never won a ring without kobe and jackson has never won a ring without 2 superstars until kobe


Sorry, facts are facts.

Pau > Brickbe

[Roundball_Rock]

Gasol will win playoff games this year without Kobe. Does that change who he is as a player?

[Force]

Gasol led Grizzlies to more success than Kobe did after Shaq left. Remember Kobe demanding a trade and the entire STAPLES CENTER crowd booing Kobe during the season home opener? This really happened. That's where Kobe was headed before the Gasol trade saved the Lakers. When Gasol came to LA they were automatically title contenders. Gasol was already one of the best bigs in the league before he ever came to LA. The pairing of him and Kobe was huge.

Have fun with the current front line.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

fisher has never won a ring without kobe and jackson has never won a ring without 2 superstars until kobe
Checked your post history to see whether or not you ever called Bosh a superstar and what do you know:


peak dominance... needs two superstars to barely win one asterisks title and another in the weakest playoffs of all time LOL


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8932026&postcount=9

In what universe is Bosh a superstar but Pau isn't?

[GODbe]

Same reason Walton did as well. They were playing alongside the greatest player of all time.

[JellyBean]

Uhh, it wasnt kobrick that made the difference for Pau, it was Fisher and Phil.

You know, the alltime leaders in playoff wins as a coach and player respectively..


When you add a smart, savvy post player like pau to a smart and savvy pg and coach, you can carry even the most overrated inefficient chucker to a few finals.

:rolleyes: What about the Lakergirls, the ushers, the ticket handlers, and the fans for Pau's success? U just threw Kobe under the bus. Stop hating on Kobe

[BuffaloBill]

Gasol will win playoff games this year without Kobe. Does that change who he is as a player?


jinx

[LBJFTW]

Gasol led Grizzlies to more success than Kobe did after Shaq left. Remember Kobe demanding a trade and the entire STAPLES CENTER crowd booing Kobe during the season home opener? This really happened. That's where Kobe was headed before the Gasol trade saved the Lakers. When Gasol came to LA they were automatically title contenders. Gasol was already one of the best bigs in the league before he ever came to LA. The pairing of him and Kobe was huge.

Have fun with the current front line.

Basically Kobe wouldn't have won shit on the lakers without Pau at that point.

[JellyBean]

Gasol will win playoff games this year without Kobe. Does that change who he is as a player?


No.

[Timrock]

Gasol led Grizzlies to more success than Kobe did after Shaq left. Remember Kobe demanding a trade and the entire STAPLES CENTER crowd booing Kobe during the season home opener? This really happened. That's where Kobe was headed before the Gasol trade saved the Lakers. When Gasol came to LA they were automatically title contenders. Gasol was already one of the best bigs in the league before he ever came to LA. The pairing of him and Kobe was huge.

Have fun with the current front line.

did you read the question? Why has Gasol never won a playoff game without Kobe? Not who has had the most success. If that were the case, then you still lose, because after shaq and before gasol, Kobe still won playoff GAMES, while Gasol was getting swept pretty much every year. Gasol has yet to win a playoff game without Kobe. What does demanding a trade have to do with the question being asked?

[Myth]

did you read the question? Why has Gasol never won a playoff game without Kobe? Not who has had the most success. If that were the case, then you still lose, because after shaq and before gasol, Kobe still won playoff GAMES, while Gasol was getting swept pretty much every year. Gasol has yet to win a playoff game without Kobe. What does demanding a trade have to do with the question being asked?

13 posts in 6 years. Surely not an alt.

[Timrock]

13 posts in 6 years. Surely not an alt.
i just read mostly, but felt compelled to respond to this. Sorry for having a life.

[SouBeachTalents]

Same reason Walton did as well. They were playing alongside the greatest player of all time.

:roll:

[ImKobe]

Kobe and Pau were a perfect match + the triangle brought out the best in him.

It's not rocket science. Pau didn't turn into arguably the best big man in the game by just switching teams. The system fit his skillset perfectly and he was at his best as a 2nd option to Kobe. Pau as a 1st option was never going to win a Playoff game or win many games in the regular season.

Kobe made Pau efficient. His FG% jumped up by 8% just by joining Kobe in 08.

[SOD 21]

What is Gasol 0-16 in the playoffs sans Kobe Bryant over four playoff series?

[SupermanOnSteroids]

Gasol is a competitor but lacks that fire unless he has that other alpha pushing him to be great. we all know that feeling when we go from an ol reliable nice little fatty to being single. we banged and banged that bish and she faked orgasm after orgasm and we felt like we satisfied her. but everyone knew that it wasn't crap. well one day that bish says so long and i need to think my life over and gets rid of you to start over. you get depressed and thinking that you're a stud and can pick up another chick in no time, you go to a club and then finally find that one hot bish at the club that is all grinding up on you and wants to bang you. well you agree, you're all excited. that bish is too hot to pass up so you show up to her house and find out that she already has a guy that she's committed to. he is great in all respects but the bish is a slut and wants to get to a level that can only be reached with the help of another man. so you say wtf, bish is too hot to pass up and I'm already here so what the hell. so you drink a few wines, get in the mood, play some nice music, and take it to the bedroom. you make out, she's all into it, you get excited and then the other guy finally joins you in the bedroom and he starts banging your new girl away. i mean that guy's got moves, he's zigging, he's zagging, he banging her upside down and sideways in positions you didn't even know existed. you're in awe. you think, is this what sex is like? what was I doing my entire life? thats when it gets to you. you get pissed off. you're no inferior than anyone. that fire ignites within you and you take your 5 incher and start slamming that hoe with all your furiosity. you're determined. you're a man on a mission. you say **** that other guy, this is gonna be my girl. she even said that she wanted me. i'm no loser. i'm the one that's gonna put her over the top. you do all you can but ultimately the other guy is a GOAT and you can't keep up. you try and you try and you try to keep up but you can't and you end up taking solace in the fact that you held up your end of the bargain and your girl will always remember the banging you gave to her. during this time, even if you don't realize it, you just gave your best sexual performance of your life. and you keep doing it over and over, time and time again. the bish is goin wild. her tolerance level is rising to new heights. and then one day the alpha dude goes out on a vacation and the girl gets other dudes to join in and you say, this ain't shit, I've learned enough, i'm gonna be the alpha dude now. this is my show. these guys are in to learn a few things from me. well, the time gets to it and you all start going to town. the bish is hooting and hollering, everyone is making a lot of noise. you're smiling knowing you're the man now, but guess what, at the end the bish is unsatisfied. you get her to confess, the bish is in tears and broken down. she confesses to you that you were never that great, it was always that other guy that satisfied her and she just liked having a nice clean weiner in her mouth while getting plowed by the other guy. the new guys that showed up were just some immature gang bangers she met while they were harrassing her at the grocery store. so she brought them in thinking they were well hung. but actually those guys were just all talk and no game. they were the type of guys that send chick pics of their well hung penises to entice them but *** in like 3 minutes when they get down to it. so you say *** them other guys, your alpha man is about to be back from the vacation and it could be just the two of us again and we'll regain the glory, but the bish throws the curve ball at you. she says, 'I think we need to move on, i think its time for a change.' you're heart broken but decide that its for the best. ultimately you give up and find another old hag with a broken vag and settle down with her.

[SouBeachTalents]

Gasol is a competitor but lacks that fire unless he has that other alpha pushing him to be great. we all know that feeling when we go from an ol reliable nice little fatty to being single. we banged and banged that bish and she faked orgasm after orgasm and we felt like we satisfied her. but everyone knew that it wasn't crap. well one day that bish says so long and i need to think my life over and gets rid of you to start over. you get depressed and thinking that you're a stud and can pick up another chick in no time, you go to a club and then finally find that one hot bish at the club that is all grinding up on you and wants to bang you. well you agree, you're all excited. that bish is too hot to pass up so you show up to her house and find out that she already has a guy that she's committed to. he is great in all respects but the bish is a slut and wants to get to a level that can only be reached with the help of another man. so you say wtf, bish is too hot to pass up and I'm already here so what the hell. so you drink a few wines, get in the mood, play some nice music, and take it to the bedroom. you make out, she's all into it, you get excited and then the other guy finally joins you in the bedroom and he starts banging your new girl away. i mean that guy's got moves, he's zigging, he's zagging, he banging her upside down and sideways in positions you didn't even know existed. you're in awe. you think, is this what sex is like? what was I doing my entire life? thats when it gets to you. you get pissed off. you're no inferior than anyone. that fire ignites within you and you take your 5 incher and start slamming that hoe with all your furiosity. you're determined. you're a man on a mission. you say **** that other guy, this is gonna be my girl. she even said that she wanted me. i'm no loser. i'm the one that's gonna put her over the top. you do all you can but ultimately the other guy is a GOAT and you can't keep up. you try and you try and you try to keep up but you can't and you end up taking solace in the fact that you held up your end of the bargain and your girl will always remember the banging you gave to her. during this time, even if you don't realize it, you just gave your best sexual performance of your life. and you keep doing it over and over, time and time again. the bish is goin wild. her tolerance level is rising to new heights. and then one day the alpha dude goes out on a vacation and the girl gets other dudes to join in and you say, this ain't shit, I've learned enough, i'm gonna be the alpha dude now. this is my show. these guys are in to learn a few things from me. well, the time gets to it and you all start going to town. the bish is hooting and hollering, everyone is making a lot of noise. you're smiling knowing you're the man now, but guess what, at the end the bish is unsatisfied. you get her to confess, the bish is in tears and broken down. she confesses to you that you were never that great, it was always that other guy that satisfied her and she just liked having a nice clean weiner in her mouth while getting plowed by the other guy. the new guys that showed up were just some immature gang bangers she met while they were harrassing her at the grocery store. so she brought them in thinking they were well hung. but actually those guys were just all talk and no game. they were the type of guys that send chick pics of their well hung penises to entice them but *** in like 3 minutes when they get down to it. so you say *** them other guys, your alpha man is about to be back from the vacation and it could be just the two of us again and we'll regain the glory, but the bish throws the curve ball at you. she says, 'I think we need to move on, i think its time for a change.' you're heart broken but decide that its for the best. ultimately you give up and find another old had with a broken vag and settle down with her.

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i59/2/4/13/frabz-Aint-nobody-got-time-to-read-All-of-that-shit-a46f7c.jpg

[riseagainst]

Gasol is a competitor but lacks that fire unless he has that other alpha pushing him to be great. we all know that feeling when we go from an ol reliable nice little fatty to being single. we banged and banged that bish and she faked orgasm after orgasm and we felt like we satisfied her. but everyone knew that it wasn't crap. well one day that bish says so long and i need to think my life over and gets rid of you to start over. you get depressed and thinking that you're a stud and can pick up another chick in no time, you go to a club and then finally find that one hot bish at the club that is all grinding up on you and wants to bang you. well you agree, you're all excited. that bish is too hot to pass up so you show up to her house and find out that she already has a guy that she's committed to. he is great in all respects but the bish is a slut and wants to get to a level that can only be reached with the help of another man. so you say wtf, bish is too hot to pass up and I'm already here so what the hell. so you drink a few wines, get in the mood, play some nice music, and take it to the bedroom. you make out, she's all into it, you get excited and then the other guy finally joins you in the bedroom and he starts banging your new girl away. i mean that guy's got moves, he's zigging, he's zagging, he banging her upside down and sideways in positions you didn't even know existed. you're in awe. you think, is this what sex is like? what was I doing my entire life? thats when it gets to you. you get pissed off. you're no inferior than anyone. that fire ignites within you and you take your 5 incher and start slamming that hoe with all your furiosity. you're determined. you're a man on a mission. you say **** that other guy, this is gonna be my girl. she even said that she wanted me. i'm no loser. i'm the one that's gonna put her over the top. you do all you can but ultimately the other guy is a GOAT and you can't keep up. you try and you try and you try to keep up but you can't and you end up taking solace in the fact that you held up your end of the bargain and your girl will always remember the banging you gave to her. during this time, even if you don't realize it, you just gave your best sexual performance of your life. and you keep doing it over and over, time and time again. the bish is goin wild. her tolerance level is rising to new heights. and then one day the alpha dude goes out on a vacation and the girl gets other dudes to join in and you say, this ain't shit, I've learned enough, i'm gonna be the alpha dude now. this is my show. these guys are in to learn a few things from me. well, the time gets to it and you all start going to town. the bish is hooting and hollering, everyone is making a lot of noise. you're smiling knowing you're the man now, but guess what, at the end the bish is unsatisfied. you get her to confess, the bish is in tears and broken down. she confesses to you that you were never that great, it was always that other guy that satisfied her and she just liked having a nice clean weiner in her mouth while getting plowed by the other guy. the new guys that showed up were just some immature gang bangers she met while they were harrassing her at the grocery store. so she brought them in thinking they were well hung. but actually those guys were just all talk and no game. they were the type of guys that send chick pics of their well hung penises to entice them but *** in like 3 minutes when they get down to it. so you say *** them other guys, your alpha man is about to be back from the vacation and it could be just the two of us again and we'll regain the glory, but the bish throws the curve ball at you. she says, 'I think we need to move on, i think its time for a change.' you're heart broken but decide that its for the best. ultimately you give up and find another old hag with a broken vag and settle down with her.

:biggums:

[stalkerforlife]

Gasol is a competitor but lacks that fire unless he has that other alpha pushing him to be great. we all know that feeling when we go from an ol reliable nice little fatty to being single. we banged and banged that bish and she faked orgasm after orgasm and we felt like we satisfied her. but everyone knew that it wasn't crap. well one day that bish says so long and i need to think my life over and gets rid of you to start over. you get depressed and thinking that you're a stud and can pick up another chick in no time, you go to a club and then finally find that one hot bish at the club that is all grinding up on you and wants to bang you. well you agree, you're all excited. that bish is too hot to pass up so you show up to her house and find out that she already has a guy that she's committed to. he is great in all respects but the bish is a slut and wants to get to a level that can only be reached with the help of another man. so you say wtf, bish is too hot to pass up and I'm already here so what the hell. so you drink a few wines, get in the mood, play some nice music, and take it to the bedroom. you make out, she's all into it, you get excited and then the other guy finally joins you in the bedroom and he starts banging your new girl away. i mean that guy's got moves, he's zigging, he's zagging, he banging her upside down and sideways in positions you didn't even know existed. you're in awe. you think, is this what sex is like? what was I doing my entire life? thats when it gets to you. you get pissed off. you're no inferior than anyone. that fire ignites within you and you take your 5 incher and start slamming that hoe with all your furiosity. you're determined. you're a man on a mission. you say **** that other guy, this is gonna be my girl. she even said that she wanted me. i'm no loser. i'm the one that's gonna put her over the top. you do all you can but ultimately the other guy is a GOAT and you can't keep up. you try and you try and you try to keep up but you can't and you end up taking solace in the fact that you held up your end of the bargain and your girl will always remember the banging you gave to her. during this time, even if you don't realize it, you just gave your best sexual performance of your life. and you keep doing it over and over, time and time again. the bish is goin wild. her tolerance level is rising to new heights. and then one day the alpha dude goes out on a vacation and the girl gets other dudes to join in and you say, this ain't shit, I've learned enough, i'm gonna be the alpha dude now. this is my show. these guys are in to learn a few things from me. well, the time gets to it and you all start going to town. the bish is hooting and hollering, everyone is making a lot of noise. you're smiling knowing you're the man now, but guess what, at the end the bish is unsatisfied. you get her to confess, the bish is in tears and broken down. she confesses to you that you were never that great, it was always that other guy that satisfied her and she just liked having a nice clean weiner in her mouth while getting plowed by the other guy. the new guys that showed up were just some immature gang bangers she met while they were harrassing her at the grocery store. so she brought them in thinking they were well hung. but actually those guys were just all talk and no game. they were the type of guys that send chick pics of their well hung penises to entice them but *** in like 3 minutes when they get down to it. so you say *** them other guys, your alpha man is about to be back from the vacation and it could be just the two of us again and we'll regain the glory, but the bish throws the curve ball at you. she says, 'I think we need to move on, i think its time for a change.' you're heart broken but decide that its for the best. ultimately you give up and find another old hag with a broken vag and settle down with her.

:coleman:

:roll:

[SupermanOnSteroids]

never mind the imagery, but does it or does it not sum up gasol's career?

[Ca$H]

never mind the imagery, but does it or does it not sum up gasol's career?

you are failing as my Pippen.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

iknumbers? holly shit.

[Inferno]

Well, playing with a top 10 player all time generally helps you get rings...

[Ca$H]

iknumbers? holly shit.

We need to join forces and destroy that place. I'm impressed with your work.

:applause: :roll:

[SupermanOnSteroids]

that place bans easy, so need to be subtle about it to keep it going or else it will be short lived.

go check that board, i just made another thread.

[rule1223]

Well, playing with a top 10 player all time generally helps you get rings...
i understand the rings but how can he not even win one single game thats mind boggling, 0-16 without kobe, even the expansion raptors beat the 72-10 bulls, one win in 16 tries for a playoff calibre team is not that difficult, i dont get it

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

because gasol didn't have great teams in memphis...and because he's better suited to be a 2nd option.

oh...and because Kobe is one of the best players ever.:hammerhead:
Those Memphis teams were STACKED defensively

[B-hoop]

Gasol is a competitor but lacks that fire unless he has that other alpha pushing him to be great. we all know that feeling when we go from an ol reliable nice little fatty to being single. we banged and banged that bish and she faked orgasm after orgasm and we felt like we satisfied her. but everyone knew that it wasn't crap. well one day that bish says so long and i need to think my life over and gets rid of you to start over. you get depressed and thinking that you're a stud and can pick up another chick in no time, you go to a club and then finally find that one hot bish at the club that is all grinding up on you and wants to bang you. well you agree, you're all excited. that bish is too hot to pass up so you show up to her house and find out that she already has a guy that she's committed to. he is great in all respects but the bish is a slut and wants to get to a level that can only be reached with the help of another man. so you say wtf, bish is too hot to pass up and I'm already here so what the hell. so you drink a few wines, get in the mood, play some nice music, and take it to the bedroom. you make out, she's all into it, you get excited and then the other guy finally joins you in the bedroom and he starts banging your new girl away. i mean that guy's got moves, he's zigging, he's zagging, he banging her upside down and sideways in positions you didn't even know existed. you're in awe. you think, is this what sex is like? what was I doing my entire life? thats when it gets to you. you get pissed off. you're no inferior than anyone. that fire ignites within you and you take your 5 incher and start slamming that hoe with all your furiosity. you're determined. you're a man on a mission. you say **** that other guy, this is gonna be my girl. she even said that she wanted me. i'm no loser. i'm the one that's gonna put her over the top. you do all you can but ultimately the other guy is a GOAT and you can't keep up. you try and you try and you try to keep up but you can't and you end up taking solace in the fact that you held up your end of the bargain and your girl will always remember the banging you gave to her. during this time, even if you don't realize it, you just gave your best sexual performance of your life. and you keep doing it over and over, time and time again. the bish is goin wild. her tolerance level is rising to new heights. and then one day the alpha dude goes out on a vacation and the girl gets other dudes to join in and you say, this ain't shit, I've learned enough, i'm gonna be the alpha dude now. this is my show. these guys are in to learn a few things from me. well, the time gets to it and you all start going to town. the bish is hooting and hollering, everyone is making a lot of noise. you're smiling knowing you're the man now, but guess what, at the end the bish is unsatisfied. you get her to confess, the bish is in tears and broken down. she confesses to you that you were never that great, it was always that other guy that satisfied her and she just liked having a nice clean weiner in her mouth while getting plowed by the other guy. the new guys that showed up were just some immature gang bangers she met while they were harrassing her at the grocery store. so she brought them in thinking they were well hung. but actually those guys were just all talk and no game. they were the type of guys that send chick pics of their well hung penises to entice them but *** in like 3 minutes when they get down to it. so you say *** them other guys, your alpha man is about to be back from the vacation and it could be just the two of us again and we'll regain the glory, but the bish throws the curve ball at you. she says, 'I think we need to move on, i think its time for a change.' you're heart broken but decide that its for the best. ultimately you give up and find another old hag with a broken vag and settle down with her.

:roll: :roll:

:applause: :applause: