What would peak Kobe average in the Wilt/Russell era

[GODbe]

Regardless of the fact that he wasn't necessarily an incredible athlete in his peak, he sure as hell would look like one against that competition. Not to mention the showcasing of speed, skills and epic footwork that the players of that era never saw before.

I believe at least 100ppg is reasonable.

[TheMarkMadsen]

40 ppg.

Wilt took 40 shots per game + 17 free throws per game to score 50 a game..

Imagine Kobe getting to put up 30-35 shots per game against defenders with no fundementals..

Easily 35-40 for his career on 49%. 10+ rebounds and 5 assist also.

[GODbe]

40 ppg.

Wilt took 40 shots per game + 17 free throws per game to score 50 a game..

Imagine Kobe getting to put up 30-35 shots per game against defenders with no fundementals..

Easily 35-40 for his career on 49%. 10+ rebounds and 5 assist also.
I think you're underestimating Kobe here :biggums:

[CavaliersFTW]

Kobe is a Jerry West with an Elgin Baylor handle and body... minus 30 pounds of post-up leg and core muscle of course.

[Lebronxrings]

90ppg





on 35% shooting

[Psileas]

He'd be Hal Greer with more of a chucker's mentality and worse defense.
If he were born in the 30's, he'd be worse.

[Akrazotile]

Well hes already got the most missed FGs of all time in a much slower area.

I can only imagine what hed average in a faster pace era.

Dear lord... Its mind boggling just to think about :eek: :bowdown:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

41/8/7

depends how much shot he takes since coaches would want him taking more. No 3pt line makes it less than it could be doe

[CavaliersFTW]

Well hes already got the most missed FGs of all time in a much slower area.

I can only imagine what hed average in a faster pace era.

Dear lord... Its mind boggling just to think about :eek: :bowdown:
Cousy's shot selection with Wilt's volumes :oldlol:

[KyrieTheFuture]

0/0/0

You think Kobe would have gotten away with a rape accusation in the 60's? LOL okay.

[SuperPippen]

If he were born around the same time that Wilt and Russell were born? He'd average Baylor-esque numbers.

If we're talking regular, modern day Kobe? He wouldn't even be able to stay on the court because of all of the traveling violations he'd get called for.

[CavaliersFTW]

0/0/0

You think Kobe would have gotten away with a rape accusation in the 60's? LOL okay.
:biggums:








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[CavaliersFTW]

If he were born around the same time that Wilt and Russell were born? He'd average Baylor-esque numbers.

If we're talking regular, modern day Kobe? He wouldn't even be able to stay on the court because of all of the traveling violations he'd get called for.
Bayloresq scoring numbers minus rebounding, Baylor was rebounding at a clip in his peak that was between that of Lebron and Barkley. Kobe would be probably between Oscar and West in that department.

[GODbe]

Forgot about the 3pt line...but still. Wilt averaged 30ppg for his career. I don't see why Kobe, a much much much better player, wouldn't average 20-40 more then that even without the 3pt line. Peak Kobe was single handedly destroying teams in THIS era.

[CavaliersFTW]

Forgot about the 3pt line...but still. Wilt averaged 30ppg for his career. I don't see why Kobe, a much much better player, wouldn't average 20-40 more then that even without the 3pt line. Peak Kobe was single handedly destroying teams in THIS era.
you lost me there :lol

[fpliii]

He'd do well obviosuly. His rebounds would go up for sure.

Something like 27-35 consistently in his scoring prime, 7-10 boards a game. Same number of assists (pace and harsher scorekeepers cancelling out), maybe more if they have him play point based on his handles.

[CavaliersFTW]

He'd do well obviosuly. His rebounds would go up for sure.

Something like 27-35 consistently in his scoring prime, 7-10 boards a game. Same number of assists (pace and harsher scorekeepers cancelling out), maybe more if they have him play point based on his handles.
they might not have him play point because of his mindset though - hasn't he admitted tunnel vision when it pertains to looking to score as opposed to pass? Though I guess it will be interesting to see how he plays this season and the next few seasons as he ages. If he decides to change up his game and displays an easy transition into becoming a facilitator maybe that's not necessarily true.

[fpliii]

they might not have him play point because of his mindset though - hasn't he admitted tunnel vision when it pertains to scoring?
Possibly. However, even though West and Oscar played a lot of point, they were natural forwards in college. I feel like Kobe might do the same.

But as you said, if he's more of a Baylor, and more of a "Mr. Inside" (as compared to West's nickname "Mr. Outside") though, he'd probably be slotted at forward, and play off ball/attack the basket.

[CavaliersFTW]

Possibly. However, even though West and Oscar played a lot of point, they were natural forwards in college. I feel like Kobe might do the same.

But as you said, if he's more of a Baylor, and more of a "Mr. Inside" (as compared to West's nickname "Mr. Outside") though, he'd probably be slotted at forward, and play off ball/attack the basket.
I'd say he's a mr. outside, if you watch his analysis of West/Robertson/Baylor the player who's moves he felt were most beneficial to him was West because he and West have the most similar sized frames (skinny, and quick). Baylor and West had big wide frames by comparison with solid base/legs. Kobe was only 178lbs as a rookie, to West's 175. West filled out to 188, and Kobe with weight training plays at 205. Without weight training he'd probably be 190 or 195, so closer to West in size than Robertson or Baylor (205-220 and 214-236 without weights respectively). He's in the Sam Jones/Jerry West/Hal Greer/Dick Barnett size range, they're all about the same size. All played predominantly as perimeter oriented 2-guards in the 60's.

[sundizz]

Lol.

43.7 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 4.1 apg on 48.7% fg, 81.9 ft%

They'd call him Kobe Black on White Crime Bryant

[Prometheus]

OP is a gimmick account, why do people pretend to take him seriously?

[JT123]

0/0/0

You think Kobe would have gotten away with a rape accusation in the 60's? LOL okay.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

50ppg, 12rpg, 9apg, 58% shooting.

[Im so nba'd out]

kobe would avg 300 rpy(rapes per year) back in 60's/70's with no DNA evidence or AFIS



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[juju151111]

45 ppg 10 rebounds.

[Calabis]

Regardless of the fact that he wasn't necessarily an incredible athlete in his peak, he sure as hell would look like one against that competition. Not to mention the showcasing of speed, skills and epic footwork that the players of that era never saw before.

I believe at least 100ppg is reasonable.

25 ppg....why because he wouldn't have anyone's game to copy

[CavaliersFTW]

kobe would avg 300 rpy(rapes per year) back in 60's/70's with no DNA evidence or AFIS



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Yes but the consequences of even getting "accused" as a black man back then ...

[jstern]

There's so many factors that you have to take into account. For example, dribbling was totally different game back then. I tried to play a game just dribbling straight up and down, and it just completely limited the things that normally do. Try it people. Then there's the rules, from my understanding the players were able to get away with a lot, lot more than the 80s and 90s.

So if you just transferred Kobe to the 60s, he would have a totally different game.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

0/0/0

You think Kobe would have gotten away with a rape accusation in the 60's? LOL okay.
Weaker era for women
he wouldnt need to resort to that

[FKAri]

Are you time travelling him?

If so, he'd destroy.

[scandisk_]

Time Travelbe will be the best in the League. After he adjusts on the rules and remodel his game, he'll keep on scorin and dunkin. 40+ppg /8rbs/5ast on 52%

[kennethgriffin]

He'd do well obviosuly. His rebounds would go up for sure.

Something like 27-35 consistently in his scoring prime, 7-10 boards a game. Same number of assists (pace and harsher scorekeepers cancelling out), maybe more if they have him play point based on his handles.

lol 27-35 ppg is what he got in the 2000's

i think a fair assessment is 38ppg career ( with 3 seasons of 45+ppg ), 15rpg career ( with a few seasons of 17-18rpg, and 6-7apg career


elgin baylor had similar size and athleticism. and the era pace had him averaging 15rpg with a high of 18rpg

[Soundwave]

There is no 3 point line in the 60s, right? That might limit some of the scoring.

I'd say 45/12/8 for a peak season, probably more of a 40/8/7 baseline for a few more years.

I don't think the wing players of the 60s really would be equipped to handle someone like that, it's kind of an unfair comparison.

He'd be bigger, faster, stronger, and more skilled than any guard in the league.

I'm definitely not a Kobe fan, but even I think he has a case as the third most explosive scorer in history, after Wilt and MJ.

[Rocketswin2013]

Really looking at it, it's hard to predict. Depends on what year and situation.

[Psileas]

Give me a break all the people who claim that Kobe would average 7-10 apg back then. Bob freakin' Cousy was averaging that many and he was a full-time PG for the fastest team in the league. Oscar and Rodgers were the only ones later on exceeding these figures and they were much more natural passers than Kobe. Kobe would not, in all likelihood, average more apg than West in the 60's and definitely not as many as West in the 70's.

Oh, and, as had always been the case, he'd need a quality big man next to him to win.

[Jacks3]

^ So you're saying that Bryant would need help to win. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Anyway, I'd say 40+/7/7-8/2 with TS% numbers well above league-average.

lol @ the idea of a bunch of white stiffs guarding Bryant. He'd toy with the league.

[Jacks3]

He'd be Hal Greer with more of a chucker's mentality and worse defense.
If he were born in the 30's, he'd be worse.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Psileas]

^ So you're saying that Bryant would need help to win. :eek: :eek: :eek:

With so much idiocy pertaining time traveling threads, you can't take it for granted that people would expect him to have help in order to win.


Anyway, I'd say 40+/7/7-8/2 with TS% numbers well above league-average.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


lol @ the idea of a bunch of white stiffs guarding Bryant. He'd toy with the league.

Depends on what you mean "toy with the league" and "white stiffs". He's "toyed" with modern leagues, as well. Wilt toyed with the league, as well. Oscar, too. Now, if you consider someone like Jerry West (=Kobe's opponent in 1/8 of his games) a white stiff, you should better change subject and talk about WWE or something else instead...