Wilt would not get close to his scoring averages in today's game, lets be real.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The season wilt averaged 50 points per game he was averaging 40 field goal attempts per game along with 17 free throw attempts per game..

40 FGA + 17 FTA per game to get 50 points... That's a ridiculous amount of shots per game and nobody today would ever be allowed to shoot that many shots per game..

Especially to a guy so "skilled" in the post

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHAJjP6e6pg

Look at how he keeps the ball below his knees for majority of the post up, sound fundementals..right? That would get stripped 8/10 in today's game if he tried that shit.

If this guy couldn't get 40 shots per game while leading his team.. Why would wilt?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SxDopaqTxiY



So that begs the question.. What did wilt do when given a normal amount of shots per game?

In 68 he was given 17 shots per game and averaged 24ppg..

In 69 he got 14 shots per game and put up 21 ppg..

In 2011 Dwight Howard was given 13 shots per and averaged 23 ppg.

Tim Duncan at 36 was putting up 18ppg

Wilt.. 13 ppg at 36.


It's not a coincidence that wilt only began winning titles after he took his FGA down dramatically.. He was never ever to translate his scoring dominance to the playoffs..

In his first 5 years he averaged 35+ in the regular season each year including 2 seasons of 40+..

However, Wilt only averaged 35+ in the playoffs twice his entire career.. Including a series that only went 3 games..

Wilt was a stat padder who could never take his "dominance" into the post season.

His fans want you to think he's the goat scorer.. Well then tell me

How is the goat scorer a guy with a career playoff average of 22.5 points per game?

How does the goat scorer end up on two championship teams and wasnt able to lead either team in scoring throughout the playoffs?

All that matters about that era is if you won.. Plenty of people from that era were puting up ridiculous stats, there were guards averaging 10+ rebounds, there was a guy averaging a triple double for entire seasons.. But we are so quick to dismiss those stats as not being as impressive as they look when put ito context, We remember Russell because he won.

Wilt was a stat padder who had seasons where he averaged 15 less points in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.. Way to raise your game. 30 ppg regular season average, 22.5 playoff average..

If wilt played in today's game he wouldn't get nearly as many shots, and as shown by when he played in his own era he will put up numbers comparable to Dwight Howard when given an appopriate amount of FGA per game.

Wilt getting all those field goal attempts never produced wins when it mattered.. It was only when he dropped his field goal attempts from 40 per game to 15 per game that he won a title.

[Im so nba'd out]

You put a lot of effort into this thread.Here is my rebuttal

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[CavaliersFTW]

1. Who are you arguing with, who says this, other than men made of straw?

2. just to be clear his number of touches were by design, coaches orders, team fed him the ball... he shot it. A player with his stamina and physical prowess could conceivably be fed the ball, by design, in any era. Would it be smart basketball? Probably not unless like in his situation that season, his teammates were assumed to be of little to no help in the scoring dept.

3. Troll post I know, I get it, but for those who may be curious Wilt's 17 free throw attempts is a misleading number. It was 3 to make 2 and 2 to make 1 in that era. Being that Wilt is a ~60% free throw shooter that season, it means he got a lot of extra attempts at the line he wouldn't get today, and it means you can't draw on that 17 attempts as an indicator of how many times he was actually drawing fouls.

[LoneyROY7]

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[played0ut]

If wilt played in today's game he wouldn't get nearly as many shots, and as shown by when he played in his own era he will put up numbers comparable to Dwight Howard when given an appopriate amount of FGA per game.

Wilt getting all those field goal attempts never produced wins when it mattered.. It was only when he dropped his field goal attempts from 40 per game to 15 per game that he won a title.

Wasn't entirely Wilt's fault he was a statpadder. It was their system. He was by far the best person on the team. Their team's system was "give Wilt the ball, let him score".

They fired the coach and got a new one. New coach made them play team ball-- or how they called it, "Celtic Ball".

His stats dropped to 20/20 or so and they won that year.




Basically, his team went from OKC's iso system to a Spurs system. :D

[CavaliersFTW]

Wasn't entirely Wilt's fault he was a statpadder. It was their system. He was by far the best person on the team. Their team's system was "give Wilt the ball, let him score".

They fired the coach and got a new one. New coach made them play team ball-- or how they called it, "Celtic Ball".

His stats dropped to 20/20 or so and they won that year.




Basically, his team went from OKC's iso system to a Spurs system. :D
Frank McGuire wasn't fired, his son got sick and the team moved to San Francisco, he was from PA and didn't want to move his family. He was actually VERY successful as the Warriors coach using his "feed Wilt" system... took Boston to 7 games in the EDF... the previous year without him, the Warriors with essentially the same team didn't make it out of the first round. The next year they sucked ass too after he couldn't make it, and they failed to even make the playoffs. Wilt still shot a lot but it wasn't under McGuire anymore. McGuire made Wilt dominant but he also made the team successful. Was actually the first coach Wilt ever really trusted and respected in the NBA.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

being real and admit wilt wouldnt average more than 30

[CavaliersFTW]

being real and admit wilt wouldnt average more than 30
What are you retarded?

[To4]

Everybody knows that even the Wilt stans.. but Wilt can hold his own in this era I can guarantee that.

[TheMarkMadsen]

1. Who are you arguing with, who says this, other than men made of straw?

2. just to be clear his number of touches were by design, coaches orders, team fed him the ball... he shot it. A player with his stamina and physical prowess could conceivably be fed the ball, by design, in any era. Would it be smart basketball? Probably not unless like in his situation that season, his teammates were assumed to be of little to no help in the scoring dept.

3. Troll post I know, I get it, but for those who may be curious Wilt's 17 free throw attempts is a misleading number. It was 3 to make 2 and 2 to make 1 in that era. Being that Wilt is a ~60% free throw shooter that season, it means he got a lot of extra attempts at the line he wouldn't get today, and it means you can't draw on that 17 attempts as an indicator of how many times he was actually drawing fouls.

Of course you try to pass this thread off as a "troll post". Except I came with facts and evidence.

Wilt would not get anywhere close to his regular dose of 30+ field goal attempts per game. He wouldn't get close to 50 or 40 points per game.

He never got it done as a dominant scorer. When did he dominate with his scoring in the playoffs like he did in the regular season.. Ill wait because it never happened.

He won a championship while averaging 10 ppg for the entire playoffs... Is that getting it done as a dominant scorer?

[SupermanOnSteroids]

wilt wouldnt average much more than 30 in this era. maybe 31, maybe 32. but not much more

[the mesiah]

LAZERUSS RAPING this *****
in 5,4,3,2......

[Lebron23]

Not in today's league.

[Legends66NBA7]

A coach wouldn't let Wilt shoot that much and play every minute of every game. Who knew ?

:confusedshrug:

[Yankstar]

The season wilt averaged 50 points per game he was averaging 40 field goal attempts per game along with 17 free throw attempts per game..

40 FGA + 17 FTA per game to get 50 points... That's a ridiculous amount of shots per game and nobody today would ever be allowed to shoot that many shots per game..

Especially to a guy so "skilled" in the post

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHAJjP6e6pg

Look at how he keeps the ball below his knees for majority of the post up, sound fundementals..right? That would get stripped 8/10 in today's game if he tried that shit.

If this guy couldn't get 40 shots per game while leading his team.. Why would wilt?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SxDopaqTxiY



So that begs the question.. What did wilt do when given a normal amount of shots per game?

In 68 he was given 17 shots per game and averaged 24ppg..

In 69 he got 14 shots per game and put up 21 ppg..

In 2011 Dwight Howard was given 13 shots per and averaged 23 ppg.

Tim Duncan at 36 was putting up 18ppg

Wilt.. 13 ppg at 36.


It's not a coincidence that wilt only began winning titles after he took his FGA down dramatically.. He was never ever to translate his scoring dominance to the playoffs..

In his first 5 years he averaged 35+ in the regular season each year including 2 seasons of 40+..

However, Wilt only averaged 35+ in the playoffs twice his entire career.. Including a series that only went 3 games..

Wilt was a stat padder who could never take his "dominance" into the post season.

His fans want you to think he's the goat scorer.. Well then tell me

How is the goat scorer a guy with a career playoff average of 22.5 points per game?

How does the goat scorer end up on two championship teams and wasnt able to lead either team in scoring throughout the playoffs?

All that matters about that era is if you won.. Plenty of people from that era were puting up ridiculous stats, there were guards averaging 10+ rebounds, there was a guy averaging a triple double for entire seasons.. But we are so quick to dismiss those stats as not being as impressive as they look when put ito context, We remember Russell because he won.

Wilt was a stat padder who had seasons where he averaged 15 less points in the playoffs than he did in the regular season.. Way to raise your game. 30 ppg regular season average, 22.5 playoff average..

If wilt played in today's game he wouldn't get nearly as many shots, and as shown by when he played in his own era he will put up numbers comparable to Dwight Howard when given an appopriate amount of FGA per game.

Wilt getting all those field goal attempts never produced wins when it mattered.. It was only when he dropped his field goal attempts from 40 per game to 15 per game that he won a title.

Real talk right here:applause:

Wilt was a stat padder in a league full of unathletic white guys. In a 8 team league he could only win 2 rings in his post peak era, effectively being carried.

[Cocaine80s]

inb4 cavaliersftw meltdown

[guy]

Even if it was by design, OP is still right because no coach of the last 30 years is letting any player take 40 shots per game. Its not happening. On top of that, no coach and more importantly, no owner or GM is letting there star player every single minute of every game.

[played0ut]

Frank McGuire wasn't fired, his son got sick and the team moved to San Francisco, he was from PA and didn't want to move his family. He was actually VERY successful as the Warriors coach using his "feed Wilt" system... took Boston to 7 games in the EDF... the previous year without him, the Warriors with essentially the same team didn't make it out of the first round. The next year they sucked ass too after he couldn't make it, and they failed to even make the playoffs. Wilt still shot a lot but it wasn't under McGuire anymore. McGuire made Wilt dominant but he also made the team successful. Was actually the first coach Wilt ever really trusted and respected in the NBA.

I was talking about the 76'ers. Schayes being fired for Hannum during '67.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Even if it was by design, OP is still right because no coach of the last 30 years is letting any player take 40 shots per game. Its not happening. On top of that, no coach and more importantly, no owner or GM is letting there star player every single minute of every game.

Of course not

Wilt would probably average something along 25/13

[dunksby]

Do you really think Wilt would need 40FGA to score 50 on Perkins? :oldlol:

[3ball]

it takes energy to take shots - the ability to attempt 40 shots in a single game, let alone average that many is being vastly underrated itt.

no one other than wilt could take that many shots and still average 50% shooting... that's the amazing thing about the shot attempt number.

surely if wilt were to take 20 shots per game, he'd probably shoot 65%.

[buddha]

wilt wouldnt average much more than 30 in this era. maybe 31, maybe 32. but not much more

lol, i'm not even sure he could average 22.

[BoutPractice]

Wilt is a very adaptable player, who's been wildly successful shooting anything from 13 to 40 times a game. Of course his averages are going to vary depending on how you use him - in any era. And how you use him is itself as dependent on surrounding personnel as it is on Wilt himself.

In today's game, around 20 shots per game in his scoring prime sounds reasonable if he buys the system.

[KG215]

I don't think anyone, even the most ardent Wilt stans, would argue Wilt would average 50, or even 40, PPG in this era. Part of the reason his FGA/game was elevated was due to the faster pace, so that has to be taken into account along with no coach is going to let him take 40 shots per game. Still, I don't think something like 30 and 15, at his peak, is out of the question. Wilt is arguably the most physically gifted/biggest physical freak in NBA history. The only players I think that come close, especially relative to their position, are Shaq and LeBron.

[Round Mound]

I don't think anyone, even the most ardent Wilt stans, would argue Wilt would average 50, or even 40, PPG in this era. Part of the reason his FGA/game was elevated was due to the faster pace, so that has to be taken into account along with no coach is going to let him take 40 shots per game. Still, I don't think something like 30 and 15, at his peak, is out of the question. Wilt is arguably the most physically gifted/biggest physical freak in NBA history. The only players I think that come close, especially relative to their position, are Shaq and LeBron.

And You Forgot BARKLEY at PF. The Master Of The Modern 2-Pointer!

[buddha]

yea dude. and you would go out for ice cream with elizabeth hurley at her most vunrable.

brah, elizabeth hurley is 50 years old.. is that how old you are?? ayyyyy lmao

[Asukal]

Dunno why ISH voted him #4. Dude is the GOAT choker and stat padder. :oldlol:

[HomieWeMajor]

Wilt played like a typical NBA 2K mycareer center.

[Dbrog]

why exactly are people questioning if he could score over 20? Wilt has way more skills than every center in the league right now and probably more athleticism. MINIMUM he would score is whoever the highest scoring center was last year. Even go back some years ago and look at Yao dominating everyone (including Shaq sometimes) while being somewhat soft. Yao's jumper was a little wetter than Wilts but couldn't bang or run like him. I see Wilt as easily a 28+ ppg scorer in this league. Even in the 90s I think he hits that. How was Ewing better than Wilt? Ewing tore the 90s up at times.

[dreamwarrior]

he would avg 18/20/6 in today's league. and he would probably win 8 rings on the lakers

[Psileas]

Of course you try to pass this thread off as a "troll post". Except I came with facts and evidence.

It's easy to come up with "facts and evidence" and still make a troll post. I can dedicate hours upon hours on how much Shaq sucks and base it on FT% alone, then come up with "facts and evidence" of him shooting poorly in lots of important games, etc. A post can only make valid points (don't get me wrong, your OP didn't) and still miss the target completely.

It doesn't matter if Wilt came close to his scoring averages or not today, he'd still dominate the hell out of the league, especially in an era without any elite centers.


He never got it done as a dominant scorer. When did he dominate with his scoring in the playoffs like he did in the regular season.. Ill wait because it never happened.

Are you kidding me? This is like implying that you can't be considered dominant in scoring if you don't win the title. When did Baylor dominate with his scoring in the playoffs? West? Oscar? 80's Jordan? 70's Kareem except once?

[GimmeThat]

I sure hope my knowledge today becomes common sense tomorrow

[Lebronxrings]

like i said before, bosh>>>>>Wilt.