Stats Show Dirk is The Most Clutch Player In The League

[aboss4real24]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtuPbU2CYAAtRgC.jpg:large

[SupermanOnSteroids]

lol.

66 shots taken 18 made. goat.

42 shots taken 19 made. meh.

[navy]

The cut off point is arbitrary.

[DMAVS41]

Meh...cool stat, actually like extending it to 30 seconds rather than 24 for more data, but it's one of like many clutch measures we could look at.

4th qtr stats
5 minutes or less close games
2 minutes or less close games
game winners
playoff elimination and closeout games
team performance in close games and efficiency ratings

dirk grades out super in some of those...and is bested in others.

i do think Dirk is one of the most clutch players in history because of his unique skill set and ability, but this one stat doesn't prove much to be honest.

[CavaliersFTW]

Lebron tied for last ... Kobe is higher ... Wade is way higher ...inb4 shit storm :oldlol:

[Fudge]

23.3%?

Yikes...

[CavaliersFTW]

23.3%?

Yikes...
exactly what I was thinking

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/britney-spears-chaotic-worst-decision.gif

[pastis]

joe johnson higher than kobe?:eek:

[bigt]

Meh...cool stat, actually like extending it to 30 seconds rather than 24 for more data, but it's one of like many clutch measures we could look at.

4th qtr stats
5 minutes or less close games
2 minutes or less close games
game winners
playoff elimination and closeout games
team performance in close games and efficiency ratings

dirk grades out super in some of those...and is bested in others.

i do think Dirk is one of the most clutch players in history because of his unique skill set and ability, but this one stat doesn't prove much to be honest.

Fair assessment, but it's nice to see the eye test being proven here. Dirk's always seemed as though he was one of the clutchest players in the league so it's always nice to see that it's not just personal bias :banana:

[ottooooooo]

white power bitches

[DMAVS41]

Fair assessment, but it's nice to see the eye test being proven here. Dirk's always seemed as though he was one of the clutchest players in the league so it's always nice to see that it's not just personal bias :banana:

I agree, but what's funny is that he was perceived as a choker most of his career.

Which is odd because not only was he arguably the most clutch player of the era, but his team had the best record in close games from 05 through 11. He was undefeated in game 7's until the Spurs series this year...and he's one of the best elimination game players in the playoffs of all time.

Funny how much the ESPN narrative that is often total BS carries so much weight.

Dude is absolutely one of the best late game and big game performers in NBA history...and he had the rep of a choker most of his career. :facepalm

[moe94]

23.3%?

Yikes...

For real. The Truth my ass.

[pastis]

not forgetting how he carried absolute scrub to a #1 in the WEST. but everyone is talking about bron taking scrub to the #1 in the joke-conference:facepalm

[TheBigVeto]

2nd GOAT PF.

[DaSeba5]

Lebron tied for last ... Kobe is higher ... Wade is way higher ...inb4 shit storm :oldlol:

:lol

[avonbarksdale]

if you were to extend this to a minute left, or down by 4, i'm sure these stats would be very different, pointless scope of research

[oarabbus]

if you were to extend this to a minute left, or down by 4, i'm sure these stats would be very different, pointless scope of research


The cut off point is arbitrary.


It's not pointless at all. Like it's been said in the thread it's not the ONLY measure of clutchness, but you gotta be kidding if you say it's worthless. Shooting for the tie or lead in the last 30sec. That's definitely one aspect of clutch.

[DMAVS41]

if you were to extend this to a minute left, or down by 4, i'm sure these stats would be very different, pointless scope of research

dirk is at 43.1% on shots to tie or take the lead with 1 minute or less remaining in 4th qtr or ot in both the regular season and playoffs for his career

I'll try and so some others;

Wade - 31%
Lebron - 37.6%
Kobe - 34.7%
Allen - 36.4%

[DMAVS41]

I tried looking for these exact numbers on BBR but I couldn't find them. Unless it's only the reg season, even then I didn't get those numbers.

Dirk reg season, 4th & OT with 30 seconds left
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=nowitdi01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

16/46

Including playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=nowitdi01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

19/59


Same thing but with kobe

Regular season only

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=bryanko01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

36/107


Regular season and playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=bryanko01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

41/126


Unless I misread or completely fukked it up, I'm pretty sure the numbers in the picture are way off


Your thing isn't the same.

It's shots to tie or take lead...there is an option for that.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I tried looking for these exact numbers on BBR but I couldn't find them. Unless it's only the reg season, even then I didn't get those numbers.

Dirk reg season, 4th & OT with 30 seconds left
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=nowitdi01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

16/46

Including playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=nowitdi01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

19/59


Same thing but with kobe

Regular season only

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=bryanko01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

36/107


Regular season and playoffs

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=bryanko01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-3&margin_max=-1&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

41/126


Unless I misread or completely fukked it up, I'm pretty sure the numbers in the picture are way off

"final 30 seconds of a game" is the key here...so if a game goes to OT the last 30 secs of the 4th don't count and if it goes to 2nd OT then the last 30 secs of the 4th and the 1st OT dont count...etc.

Pretty stupid if you ask me...

edit: must be what dmavs said actually...in that case that picture is worded wrong

[pastis]

you misread and completely fukked it up.

warfan, navy markmadsen, pointguard, dresta, gammawolf24 biggest trolls on ish

[DMAVS41]

"final 30 seconds of a game" is the key here...so if a game goes to OT the last 30 secs of the 4th don't count and if it goes to 2nd OT then the last 30 secs of the 4th and the 1st OT dont count...etc.

Pretty stupid if you ask me...

edit: must be what dmavs said actually...in that case that picture is worded wrong

and, i'm getting different information as well.

posting it now.

I got...shot to tie or take lead in final 30 seconds of games in playoffs or regular season...in 4th qtr or overtime....

Dirk 37.2%
Lebron 33.8%
Kobe 30.7%
Wade 28%

So I have no idea what those numbers in the chart actually relate to.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

and, i'm getting different information as well.

posting it now.

I got...shot to tie or take lead in final 30 seconds of games in playoffs or regular season...in 4th qtr or overtime....

Dirk 37.2%
Lebron 33.8%
Kobe 30.7%
Wade 28%

So I have no idea what those numbers in the chart actually relate to.

must be what i said then....that it only counts the last 30 seconds of games...that is that if a game goes to OT is won't count a shot in the last 30 secs of the 4th quarter of that game as part of the stats...same goes for 2nd OT games wont count 1st OT or 4th Q

[DMAVS41]

must be what i said then....that it only counts the last 30 seconds of games...that is that if a game goes to OT is won't count a shot in the last 30 secs of the 4th quarter of that game as part of the stats...same goes for 2nd OT games wont count 1st OT or 4th Q

yep.

and that is horribly flawed because it limits the data in a really bad way.

look at the difference in Wade...I know it was odd seeing him so high up on that list.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

yep.

and that is horribly flawed because it limits the data in a really bad way.
definitely...doesnt make sense in a practical sense either...what if someebody hits a clutch 3 to force OT? like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQd2h4X0O2E ...that doesn't count as "clutch" :facepalm

[DMAVS41]

definitely...doesnt make sense in a practical sense either...what if someebody hits a clutch 3 to force OT? like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQd2h4X0O2E ...that doesn't count as "clutch" :facepalm

exactly.

[BoutPractice]

Flawed data due to the arbitrary selection point, but Dirk looks really good in several other "clutch" stats (last 5 minutes scoring and +/-, 4th quarter scoring, playoff stats VS regular season stats, and I suspect though haven't checked free throw shooting in key moments, among others) across the years. And beyond the stats, it's clear enough that Dirk is the guy you want with the ball in his hands in the key possessions of a close game if you want the Mavs to win.

There's enough evidence around that Dirk deserves to be in the conversation as one of the all-time clutch greats, whatever your standard is.

[navy]

you misread and completely fukked it up.

warfan, navy markmadsen, pointguard, dresta, gammawolf24 biggest trolls on ish
:biggums:

[BoutPractice]

We should also consider clutch free throws/attempts that led to made free throws, especially for someone like Dirk as it is an integral part of their clutch threat... Even without taking those into account, the percentage is still impressive. And no matter what the haters say, Kobe's sheer output is also impressive.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Anyone have CP and Ginoblis stats?

[Im Still Ballin]

Agenda.

[ImKobe]

Can't be accurate for Kobe, as he has more than 18 game-winners since 2000-01


May 10, 2000: Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (PO, jumper over Jason Kidd w/ 2.6 secs)
Feb. 07, 2001: Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83 (jumper over Shawn Marion w/ 2.7 sec)
Feb. 13, 2001: Lakers 113 - Nets 110 (OT layup/and-1 w/ 4.8 secs)
Jan. 02, 2002: Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86 (off-reb and jumper w/ 55 secs)
Feb. 22, 2002: Lakers 96 - Hornets 94 (buzzer-beater, jumper over George Lynch)
May 12, 2002: Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (PO, off-reb and put-back w/ 5.1 secs)
Dec. 06, 2002: Lakers 105 - Mavericks 103 (turn-around jumper w/ 8 secs)
April 04, 2003: Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101 (buzzer beater, jumper over Shane Battier)
April 06, 2003: Lakers 115 - Suns 113 (OT, game-tying jumper for OT, jumper over Shawn Marion w/ 28.6 sec)
Dec. 19, 2003: Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99 (buzzer-beater, fade-away over Jon Barry)
Mar. 21, 2004: Lakers 104 - Bucks 103 (OT jumper over Keith Van Horn w/ 25.1 sec)
April 14, 2004: Lakers 105 - Blazers 104 (OT, game-tying 3-pointer for OT, fall-away 3-pointer buzzer-beater)
Mar. 12, 2005: Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116 (jumper over Keith Bogans w/ 0.9 secs)
Nov. 02, 2005: Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97 (OT jumper over Ed Najera w/ 0.6 secs)
Dec. 04, 2005: Lakers 99 - Bobcats 98 (game-winning FTs w/ 7 secs)
Jan. 12, 2006: Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98 (jumper over LeBron James w/ 8.6 secs)
April 30, 2006: Lakers 99 - Suns 98 (PO, OT, game-tying tear-drop for OT, buzzer-beater jumper over Boris Diaw)
Jan. 14, 2008: Lakers 123 - Sonics 121 (OT jumper over Jeff Green w/ 4.3 secs)
Jan. 09, 2009: Lakers 121 - Pacers 119 (jumper over Jarrett Jack w/ 3 secs)
Dec. 04, 2009: Lakers 108 - Heat 107 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer over Dwyane Wade)
Dec. 16, 2009: Lakers 107 - Bucks 106 (OT buzzer-beater, jumper over Charlie Bell)
Jan. 01, 2010: Lakers 109 - Kings 108 (buzzer-beater, 3-pointer)
Jan. 31, 2010: Lakers 90 - Celtics 89 (jumper over Ray Allen w/ 7.3 secs)
Feb. 23, 2010: Lakers 99 - Grizzlies 98 (3-pointer over Rudy Gay w/ 4.3 secs)
Mar. 09, 2010: Lakers 109 - Raptors 107 (fade-away jumper over Antoine Wright w/ 1.9 secs)

And he had 2 more winners against Toronto, including a game-tying 3 to send it to OT (where he had the game-winning dunk), also hit a game-tying jumper to send it to OT against the Pistons (when he wore his mask)

then the 3 that won the game against the Hornets (the game where he was like 3-21, but hit his last shot).

Here are the clips I'm talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_7iNziINyk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lEgFnNwPzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuwiI-GI8uE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dfamB-4u0

[Bandito]

Kobe's fearless. He doesnt give a **** about stats. If only had help like Lebron had on the Heat , his stats wouldve been better.

[KobesFinger]

If my team is down 3 and a player hits a 2 with under 30 seconds left, is that not "clutch"?

[tmacattack33]

:facepalm

You can't use cases when you're team is down by 3...

1. some players aren't good 3 point shooters anyway

2. when you're down 3 with only one possession left it's a desparation attempt most of the time



Which is why almost every game winning shot definition i've ever seen limits it shots in the last 24 (which better than 30 as well) seconds of the game when no team is leading by more than 2 points.

[tmacattack33]

If my team is down 3 and a player hits a 2 with under 30 seconds left, is that not "clutch"?

No many times it is not.

If you're down by 3 with 10 seconds left, often times the defense kinda just lets you go for the 2 and the bigs get out of the way because they don't want to foul for a possible And 1.

[DMAVS41]

:facepalm

You can't use cases when you're team is down by 3...

1. some players aren't good 3 point shooters anyway

2. when you're down 3 with only one possession left it's a desparation attempt most of the time



Which is why almost every game winning shot definition i've ever seen limits it shots in the last 24 (which better than 30 as well) seconds of the game when no team is leading by more than 2 points.

nah....the 24 seconds if fine, but you can't cut out all the huge 3's that have been made.

which is why a shot to tie or take the lead is the best metric. by far...

[DMAVS41]

So if it only includes the last 30 seconds of the game and it goes to OT, it excludes clutch shots that happen in the last 30 seconds of regulation?? :facepalm

This includes clutch shots that are made in the last 30 seconds (playoffs and reg season) of the 4th and OT


http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=bryanko01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

Kobe 59/192

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=nowitdi01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg

Dirk 38/102




Fixed it in the links above, i think...


Yea...that is what I got as well. Think that is the better metric.

Thanks for the volume...

On percentage it works out to;

Dirk - 37.2%
Kobe - 30.7%


That counts the last 30 seconds of regulation and ot...and counts all shots to tie or take the lead.

Far better than the OP.

I did a few others.

I like expanding it as well...I did the last minute and of 4th qtr and OT on shots to tie or take lead in regular season and playoffs;

dirk - 43.1%
Wade - 31%
Lebron - 37.6%
Kobe - 34.7%
Allen - 36.4%

Going to do 2 minutes now...

dirk - 40%
kobe - 37.6%
wade - 34.1
lebron - 41.1%
durant - 35.6%

[russwest0]

Durant (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=duranke01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg) is more clutch than LeBron (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jamesle01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg), why am I not surprised.

Also lol @ Durant having 10 more clutch shot attempts in a LOCKOUT season than LeBron has ever had in any season.

[DMAVS41]

Durant (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=duranke01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg) is more clutch than LeBron (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jamesle01&match=single&year_id=&is_playoffs=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=30&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg), why am I not surprised.

Also lol @ Durant having 10 more clutch shot attempts in a LOCKOUT season than LeBron has ever had in any season.

Maybe if we add free throw shooting in, but in the 2 minutes or less left...shots to tie or take lead...

Lebron actually best Durant here.

The big piece we are missing...and one of the most important things for clutch play...is free throw shooting.

That is where Dirk and Durant likely have a pretty big advantage they aren't really getting credit for.

That is why I think Dirk is the most clutch player of this era. His ft shooting is all time elite and his teams have pretty much had the best record in close games throughout. I think only the Spurs and Hornets (back when Paul was there) could compete;

Since Paul was drafted in 2005, New Orleans is 80-44 in games decided by five points or less. The Dallas Mavericks (90-40) have been slightly better than the Hornets, but the Mavs' record in close games is in line with their overall winning percentage. The Hornets' is not.

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/john_schuhmann/01/27/hornets-chris-paul-clutch/


So while the OP is likely kind of worthless, Dirk does grade out to be an extremely clutch player through and through.

He'd get my vote for most clutch player since MJ retired.

- Dirk grades out very well in all these individual measures like shots to tie or take the lead, game winners, clutch play, 4th qtr play

- His team had the best record in close games for at least 05 through 11 (7 years)...perhaps more

- His team had a top 3, at least, offense in those clutch situations

- Dirk raises his game in the playoffs...is one of the best game 7 and elimination game performers of all time

- Dirk had the most clutch playoff run since early 90's MJ

- And all of the above generally doesn't really account for his ft shooting...which is key here


I don't think any other player can really compete with all of that

[russwest0]

Maybe if we add free throw shooting in, but in the 2 minutes or less left...shots to tie or take lead...

Lebron actually best Durant here.

durant has 10 game tying/winning shots in a LOCKOUT season.

Is that not insane?