Malone vs Duncan

[305Baller]

Karl Malone

vs

Tim Duncan

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GO!

[Legends66NBA7]

http://cdn.slamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/timice.jpg

[Jameerthefear]

Lol

[JohnMax]

This is like asking Kobe vs Jordan

[Milbuck]

2001-2003 Duncan is better than any version of Malone ever.

In the playoffs during those peak seasons he put up 26/15/5/4/1 on 57% TS...29.3 PER, .270 WS/48, 114 ORTG / 93 DRTG.

[Nowitness]

Karl Malone - 19 years, top 5 PG all time, 2 finals, 2 MVP's

Duncan - 8 years, Robinson's carcass, 3 finals, 3 FMVP, 2 MVP's

Nuff said.

[Purch]

I generally consider Duncan in his back to back mvp years, better than Malone has ever been.

[riseagainst]

Karl Malone - 19 years, top 5 PG all time, 2 finals, 2 MVP's

Duncan - 8 years, Robinson's carcass, 3 finals, 3 FMVP, 2 MVP's

Nuff said.

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[TheReal Kendall]

Duncan career wise and talent

[joeyjoejoe]

Malone was a great player but duncan tops any pf in history, he brings that defense that usually only great defensive centres bring, guess he could easily be labelled a centre

[SouBeachTalents]

Did OP really expect this to be a tough choice

[BuffaloBill]

This is like asking Kobe vs Jordan


Except Kobe and Jordan both won rings

[atljonesbro]

EASILY Duncan. And he destroyed Malone H2H as well.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=duncati01&p2=malonka01

[SCdac]

that jab step and vintage bank shot @ 0:55 :bowdown:

"He's unstoppable!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgUQWV1H3aA

[jzek]

Tha man with 11ty rings.

[jzek]

EASILY Duncan. And he destroyed Malone H2H as well.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=duncati01&p2=malonka01

Although I agree with you that Duncan > Malone, how old was Malone during those H2Hs?

[SCdac]

Although I agree with you that Duncan > Malone, how old was Malone during those H2Hs?

old enough to win MVP's, make AS games, All-NBA teams, etc.

[Timmy D for MVP]

This debate is as dead as the Duncan v. KG debate.

Duncan wins. Duncan is arguably a top-5 all time player.

[stalkerforlife]

Duncan wouldn't have beaten Jordan, either.

Still...Duncan > Malone.

[Roundball_Rock]

Duncan wouldn't have beaten Jordan, either.

Still...Duncan > Malone.

Duncan would have. Those series were extremely close. Karl Malone underperformed in those Finals; Duncan would have raised his game. That in a nutshell is the difference between the two. Malone flat out choked away Game 1 of the 97' Finals. "The mailmen doesn't deliver on Sundays."--Scottie Pippen to Malone before those free throws, both of which he missed. :oldlol:

Margin of victory in the 1997 and 1998 Finals

CHI 2
CHI 12
UTAH 11
UTAH 5
CHI 2
CHI 4

UTA 3
CHI 5
CHI 42 (GOAT perimeter defender gonna GOAT :bowdown: )
CHI 4
UTAH 2
CHI 1

So 9 of those 12 games were decided by 5 or less and 5 of those games ended up with a one possession differential. Put Duncan on the Jazz and the Jazz win both times. Definitely in 97', where Malone slipped to 24/10 on 44% from the field and 60% from the FT line and probably in 98'.

[Big#50]

Duncan wouldn't have beaten Jordan, either.

Still...Duncan > Malone.
Pfft. Duncan beat prime Shaq and Kobe. Duncan was more clutch than Barkley, Payton, Kemp, Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Starks, Miller, etc. And they were all one inferior players than Duncan. Jordan used his will and clutchness to beat them. Prime Duncan was a beast in the clutch.

[D-FENS]

EASILY Duncan. And he destroyed Malone H2H as well.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=duncati01&p2=malonka01

Duncan is much better than Malone, but you can't use this argument. You're pitting young Tim vs Malone leaving his prime, and entering old age

[Reggie43]

If both of them battled in their respective primes I think Malone beats Duncan.
Karl to me just plays with an edge and is a more physically imposing player than Duncan was.
If Duncan played in the Jordan era his career would probably be similar to that of Robinson.

[Big#50]

If both of them battled in their respective primes I think Malone beats Duncan.
Karl to me just plays with an edge and is a more physically imposing player than Duncan was.
If Duncan played in the Jordan era his career would probably be similar to that of Robinson.
Karl Malone was good not great. Stockton was the real star in that team. Duncan could handle physicality. 05 vs Sonics. 05 vs Detroit. 03 vs Nets. Those teams tried to hurt him. Not saying trying to injure him dirty, but giving him some hard ass fouls.

[joeyjoejoe]

Duncan would have. Those series were extremely close. Karl Malone underperformed in those Finals; Duncan would have raised his game. That in a nutshell is the difference between the two. Malone flat out choked away Game 1 of the 97' Finals. "The mailmen doesn't deliver on Sundays."--Scottie Pippen to Malone before those free throws, both of which he missed. :oldlol:

Margin of victory in the 1997 and 1998 Finals

CHI 2
CHI 12
UTAH 11
UTAH 5
gonna GOAT :bowdown: )
CHI 4
[COLOR="Indigo"]UTAH
So 9 of those 12 games were decided by 5 or less and 5 of those games ended up with a one possession differential. Put Duncan on the Jazz and the Jazz win both times. Definitely in 97', where Malone slipped to 24/10 on 44% from the field and 60% from the FT line and probably in 98'.

despite popular belief Malone was actually pretty good in 98 finals especially the last two games he was a beast

[Reggie43]

Karl Malone was good not great. Stockton was the real star in that team. Duncan could handle physicality. 05 vs Sonics. 05 vs Detroit. 03 vs Nets. Those teams tried to hurt him. Not saying trying to injure him dirty, but giving him some hard ass fouls.

Are we really gonna compare those teams against the ones Malone faced in his era? The funny thing is that there is a good chance the 05 Sonics and 03 Nets dont even make the playoffs in the western conference on most years in the 90s

[joeyjoejoe]

Karl Malone was good not great. Stockton was the real star in that team. Duncan could handle physicality. 05 vs Sonics. 05 vs Detroit. 03 vs Nets. Those teams tried to hurt him. Not saying trying to injure him dirty, but giving him some hard ass fouls.

Prime Malone would be the 2nd best player today, don't think the same can said for stockton

[KOBE143]

Malone in the Spurs would produce the same number of rings or more.. But Duncan in the Jazz would be lucky to make the finals.. Maybe playoff contender every year but would never be finals contender.. Because of his last championship, Duncan has severely became overrated in this board.. From top 9 to top 5 for just winning ring as a role player.. LOL

[T_L_P]

Malone in the Spurs would produce the same number of rings or more.. But Duncan in the Jazz would be lucky to make the finals.. Maybe playoff contender every year but would never be finals contender.. Because of his last championship, Duncan has severely became overrated in this board.. From top 9 to top 5 for just winning ring as a role player.. LOL

When you call Duncan the fifth best Spur, behind guys who all call Duncan the greatest Spur, then it's obvious that you're just a terrible gimmick.

:facepalm

You make Kobe stans look really bad.

[KOBE143]

When you call Duncan the fifth best Spur, behind guys who all call Duncan the greatest Spur, then it's obvious that you're just a terrible gimmick.

:facepalm

You make Kobe stans look really bad.
Because people like you overrate him to much.. Thats why I starting to hate Duncan..

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Duncan, easily.

I'd take KG, Dirk, Barkley over Malone as well.

[T_L_P]

Because people like you overrate him to much.. Thats why I starting to hate Duncan..

And that means Tony ****ing Parker is ahead of him?

Wait to be objective. :applause:

[T_L_P]

Duncan, easily.

I'd take KG, Dirk, Barkley over Malone as well.

I used to have KG over Dirk clearly about a year back. But looking into their games more, I'm not so sure which one I'd take right now, even with KG's two-way game.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I used to have KG over Dirk clearly about a year back. But looking into their games more, I'm not so sure which one I'd take right now, even with KG's two-way game.

Same. Both are very close to me. Depends on my team as to who i'd take...to build around in a vacuum id probably take kg

[Big#50]

Are we really gonna compare those teams against the ones Malone faced in his era? The funny thing is that there is a good chance the 05 Sonics and 03 Nets dont even make the playoffs in the western conference on most years in the 90s
Hmm I was talking about Duncan being able to play physical and being able to take physicality. That's what I quoted you on.

[Reggie43]

Hmm I was talking about Duncan being able to play physical and being able to take physicality. That's what I quoted you on.

Meant to edit my answer but never bothered with it anyway because the most succesful teams in the west in the 90s are moreoften than not are the most physical.

[bizil]

Give me Timmy! He would have been a dominant top 5 caliber GOAT center of all time. So bringing that size and ability to the PF position totally redefined the PF position. He could do everything Malone could do AND added a dominant center's skillset with it. Timmy in his younger days was underrated athletically and could defend the normal sized PF's that played away from the hoop in those normal PF areas. Duncan, Barkley, Dirk, and KG all totally revolutionized the PF. Malone wasn't as revolutionary or as versatile. His bread and butter was hitting those midrange shots, running floor awesome at 265 pounds, and running that pick n roll to perfection with Stock. Duncan, Barkley, Dirk, and KG were doing things at their respective sizes and skillsets that had never really been seen before AT ALL!

[Big#50]

Meant to edit my answer but never bothered with it anyway because the most succesful teams in the west in the 90s are moreoften than not are the most physical.
No. The Knicks, The Sixers, The Hawks, The Nets, were more physical than any 90's west team. It wasn't really close actually.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Duncan but let's not underrate Malone

[Reggie43]

No. The Knicks, The Sixers, The Hawks, The Nets, were more physical than any 90's west team. It wasn't really close actually.

Agreed along with a bunch of other East teams, the comment was actually in regards to their own conference only. Teams like Portland, Phoenix, Houston, the Sonics etc. sorry if I didnt word that right.

[East_Stone_Ya]

is Duncan first of all considered as a PF?

[JohnnySic]

Duncan, easily.

I'd take KG, Dirk, Barkley over Malone as well.
Damn Malone is underrated on these boards; he's only the 2nd leading scorer in NBA history. :facepalm

Barkley over Malone? argubale.
KG? Meh.
Dirk? Lololololololololololol:roll:

[Psileas]

1-2 months ago, people were arguing whether Duncan belongs a little below or a little above Magic or Bird. Most had him a little above Shaq and an even bigger majority, above LeBron and Kobe. Yet, some now seriously compare him to Malone?

[houston]

I used to have KG over Dirk clearly about a year back. But looking into their games more, I'm not so sure which one I'd take right now, even with KG's two-way game.

:oldlol: man Duncan is wayyyy better player KG. Better scorer and defender. Better leader too. KG couldn't pull off what Duncan did in 03.

[T_L_P]

:oldlol: man Duncan is wayyyy better player KG. Better scorer and defender. Better leader too. KG couldn't pull off what Duncan did in 03.

I said Dirk bro. Of course Duncan is ahead of KG!

Who do you like more out of KG and Dirk?

[sportjames23]

Duncan would have. Those series were extremely close. Karl Malone underperformed in those Finals; Duncan would have raised his game. That in a nutshell is the difference between the two. Malone flat out choked away Game 1 of the 97' Finals. "The mailmen doesn't deliver on Sundays."--Scottie Pippen to Malone before those free throws, both of which he missed. :oldlol:

Margin of victory in the 1997 and 1998 Finals

CHI 2
CHI 12
UTAH 11
UTAH 5
CHI 2
CHI 4

UTA 3
CHI 5
CHI 42 (GOAT perimeter defender gonna GOAT :bowdown: )
CHI 4
UTAH 2
CHI 1

So 9 of those 12 games were decided by 5 or less and 5 of those games ended up with a one possession differential. Put Duncan on the Jazz and the Jazz win both times. Definitely in 97', where Malone slipped to 24/10 on 44% from the field and 60% from the FT line and probably in 98'.


LOL at this Bulls "fan".

Duncan wouldn't have won shit against MJ. The Bulls had a bunch of big bodies to toss at Duncan, plus Rodman to get into his head (and trust, Rodman would have). And who on those Jazz teams stop MJ and Pip?

Yeah, MJ still wins.

[Timmy D for MVP]

LOL at this Bulls "fan".

Duncan wouldn't have won shit against MJ. The Bulls had a bunch of big bodies to toss at Duncan, plus Rodman to get into his head (and trust, Rodman would have). And who on those Jazz teams stop MJ and Pip?

Yeah, MJ still wins.

Who has ever gotten into Tim's head?

[Big#50]

LOL at this Bulls "fan".

Duncan wouldn't have won shit against MJ. The Bulls had a bunch of big bodies to toss at Duncan, plus Rodman to get into his head (and trust, Rodman would have). And who on those Jazz teams stop MJ and Pip?

Yeah, MJ still wins.
Rodman would bave been dominated. Shit doesn't work on Duncan.

[bizil]

I think Malone is so EPIC at the main PF type duties that it takes guys that bring different position kind of elements to the table to compete with his peak. For example, Timmy brings a center's size and skillset to the table. KG and Barkley bring point forward-small forward elements to the table. Dirk brings an SF's scoring skillset to the table. Malone was more of the evolution to guys like Pettit and Elvin Hayes. U wouldn't want Malone playing any other position than PF. He was the perfect PF in terms of size and the responsibilities that the position entailed. The guys like Duncan, Barkley, KG, and Dirk are enigma's at the PF.

[houston]

I said Dirk bro. Of course Duncan is ahead of KG!

Who do you like more out of KG and Dirk?


KG of course. Dirk better scorer but KG better defender,rebounder, and passer. He was more dominate on his Finals run than Dirk. But I'll take both over Malone and Barkley cause if you think about it they was 2-4 hybrids.