Pat Riley sent LeBron a lot of emails and texts in free agency but got ignored. [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

russwest0

07-31-2014, 08:36 AM

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-lebron-james-s073014,0,3283795.story

''I went into it with the thought and the notion that he was coming back," Riley said, "and I was selling that to players, I believed that firmly, so I was selling that to players. And that's the only way I went into it. I let him know that. He never said to me, 'No, don't do that.' ''

"I don't think I was misled. But I don't think I was encouraged either. That's business."

Riley said he did not hear from James during the free agent process.

"I sent him a lot of emails and texts," Riley said. "I was communicating a lot with him. No response."

Wow. LeBron is a classless POS. First we see that he didn't even once thank Heat fans and now he straight up ignored the man that is the primary reason he is even a "champion" in the first place. And just when you thought LeBron couldn't do anything to appear more disrespectful....

fpliii

07-31-2014, 08:37 AM

WWE league. Both guys knew his decision well in advance of FA.

nathanjizzle

07-31-2014, 08:43 AM

jzek

07-31-2014, 08:46 AM

And ppl were giving Riley all the credit for all their FA signings :oldlol: It was LeBron who got the Big 3 together, Miller, RayRay, etc. and not Riley. All Riley did was draft Shabazz thinking that would pursuade LeBron lmao! A rookie having an impact on a top-10 all time's decision...

russwest0

07-31-2014, 08:47 AM

after all the hooplah about him going back to Cleveland, you kind of realize this guy is still an asshole and cant help but think he did it for selfish reasons rather than the reasons he wrote in his letter.

It's just some cowardly shit that we haven't really seen from a true "superstar" before.

Remember when someone asked LeBron about going back to Cleveland last year and he said "I'm not going back to cold winters." That was all before they got yet another 1st overall pick to land Wiggins so now he tries to spin it as if he's the good guy, the hero with "I'm coming home!" :lol :facepalm

But yeah, zero loyalty from that chump. And to not even communicate with Riley or respond to him? Goddamn.....

jzek

07-31-2014, 08:48 AM

First we see that he didn't even once thank Heat fans

Thank them for what? Leaving when they thought their team had no chance of winning the game? We all know majority of Heat fans are bandwagoners. You really want to thank those kind of ppl?

PJR

07-31-2014, 09:01 AM

Haymaker

07-31-2014, 09:07 AM

Riley acting like a desperate BF/GF trying to keep the loved one from walking away. :roll:

Trollsmasher

07-31-2014, 09:08 AM

old man is salty

making shit up to keep that heart failure away for few more months

russwest0

07-31-2014, 09:09 AM

Thank them for what? Leaving when they thought their team had no chance of winning the game? We all know majority of Heat fans are bandwagoners. You really want to thank those kind of ppl?

Have you met any of the Heat fans on this forum? They all seem like pretty good people to me :confusedshrug:

edrick

07-31-2014, 09:12 AM

Have you met any of the Heat fans on this forum? They all seem like pretty good people to me :confusedshrug:

:rolleyes: :roll:

poido123

07-31-2014, 09:15 AM

Have you met any of the Heat fans on this forum? They all seem like pretty good people to me :confusedshrug:

Russ, were you laughing as you typed that? :oldlol:

Frozen1

07-31-2014, 12:55 PM

Lebron is full of shit.

Trying to spin his jerk image and people are falling for it.

DaSeba5

07-31-2014, 01:01 PM

Have you met any of the Heat fans on this forum? They all seem like pretty good people to me :confusedshrug:

Well the ones who stayed Heat fans are anyways. :D

boozehound

07-31-2014, 01:03 PM

so, basically, pat riley lied to and misled granny danger and mcbob. Lebron was under no obligation to talk to him. he even told pat that he needed to talk to him through his agent.

DaSeba5

07-31-2014, 01:07 PM

after all the hooplah about him going back to Cleveland, you kind of realize this guy is still an asshole and cant help but think he did it for selfish reasons rather than the reasons he wrote in his letter.

I think he wanted to go home, but it wasn't the biggest reason like he made it out to be. That was a P/R move. He doesn't like to be hated even though he always brings it on himself. Cleveland offered him more wealth and power. LeBron is basically the owner, the GM, the coach, and the best player on the Cavs. He can tell management to do whatever he wants. The Cavs are also younger and has more potential to be great than what he had in Miami last year. He stacked the deck in his favor, especially if they get Love. Now he has more power, wealth, and better P/R. And he so happens to be going home as well.

Kingwillball

07-31-2014, 01:13 PM

I think he wanted to go home, but it wasn't the biggest reason like he made it out to be. That was a P/R move. He doesn't like to be hated even though he always brings it on himself. Cleveland offered him more wealth and power. LeBron is basically the owner, the GM, the coach, and the best player on the Cavs. He can tell management to do whatever he wants. The Cavs are also younger and has more potential to be great than what he had in Miami last year. He stacked the deck in his favor, especially if they get Love. Now he has more power, wealth, and better P/R. And he so happens to be going home as well.

I agree with this and I really do think it would haunt him if he did not at least TRY and bring Cleve the title he promised. By going home now in his prime with good talent around him it all made sense.

bagelred

07-31-2014, 01:33 PM

WWE league. Both guys knew his decision well in advance of FA.

Oooooooh....that explains why Lebron hit Riley with that steel chair. Makes sense now...

DMV2

07-31-2014, 02:19 PM

I don't really care much about who screwed who or who used who for their own personal goals. But knowing that they don't really give a flying rat's ass about one another is great for the league. They're more competitive than we thought.

During the post-Finals conference where Riley challenged LeBron's "street hunger" was a jackass thing to do. For LeBron not to return texts and calls to Riley was equally a jackass thing and unprofessional as well.

LeBron willing shit on his hometown on live national TV and now turn his back on the guy who orchestrated the Big 3 makes LeBron a little more "alpha" in my book. He just doesn't give a fck! :bowdown:

IncarceratedBob

07-31-2014, 02:23 PM

Riley is a greasy mark. A true piece of shit.

lakerfreak

07-31-2014, 02:39 PM

JT123

07-31-2014, 02:46 PM

Why is this bad? It was well known that Lebron was really trying his best to stay low key throughout this entire process. He had his agent do all of the talking and negotiating. I sure hope this isn't riley trying to express bitterness towards Lebron.
Exactly. :cheers: Lebron said he wanted to get away for a while and take some time to himself. After being forced to play 1 on 5 for the entirety of the Finals the least Riley could have done was respect Lebron's wishes. :confusedshrug:
Seems like Riley is now doing the same thing Dan Gilbert did, only he's being a lot more subtle about it. Saying that the Heat will be as competitive as any team in the East this year is basically his way of saying that Lebron won't be missed at all. :rolleyes: The Heat will be lucky to even make the playoffs this year. :lol

kentatm

07-31-2014, 02:56 PM

Thank them for what? Leaving when they thought their team had no chance of winning the game? We all know majority of Heat fans are bandwagoners. You really want to thank those kind of ppl?

this

Cocaine80s

07-31-2014, 02:58 PM

this guy is waiting for Lebron to give him his thanks

http://wpow.bbgi.curationdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2014/06/Screen-shot-2014-06-10-at-1.59.09-PM.png

GimmeThat

07-31-2014, 03:20 PM

since I got tired of saying people are making decisions as if they are drunk

I might as well say these people are going all in every single hand they are dealt with.

still belligerent regardless

Dresta

07-31-2014, 03:46 PM

old man is salty

making shit up to keep that heart failure away for few more months
Funny that Bron's desperate followers (e.g. you) are as completely as lacking in class and respect as he is himself.

Obnoxious assholes attract obnoxious assholes i guess.

KBaller33

07-31-2014, 03:48 PM

this guy is waiting for Lebron to give him his thanks

http://wpow.bbgi.curationdesk.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2014/06/Screen-shot-2014-06-10-at-1.59.09-PM.png

The Heat never sniffed a win after this guy ran his mouth :oldlol:

r15mohd

07-31-2014, 04:06 PM

Exactly. :cheers: Lebron said he wanted to get away for a while and take some time to himself. After being forced to play 1 on 5 for the entirety of the Finals the least Riley could have done was respect Lebron's wishes. :confusedshrug:

Seems like Riley is now doing the same thing Dan Gilbert did, only he's being a lot more subtle about it. Saying that the Heat will be as competitive as any team in the East this year is basically his way of saying that Lebron won't be missed at all. :rolleyes: The Heat will be lucky to even make the playoffs this year. :lol

agree with everything but the bold...the Heat will be in the top 5 of the East, barring any injuries of course. and I don't think Riley believes that Lebron won't be missed, it's pretty well known that the impact Lebron gives on any team cannot be made up for (i.e. 2010-2104 Cavs). however, the East is pretty well rounded now with no one shining team really.

if the Cavs land Love...which is likely...then they are the clear favorites from the East but how well they do in their first year is to be seen. ECF locks for sure, can even stretch it to Finals if they click like 2008 Boston did from the onset.

SamuraiSWISH

07-31-2014, 04:20 PM

That's just how he and his group of cronies conduct business. You would think he'd show a little bit of gratitude towards Riley, who had his back from day 1 when he came to Miami. This was the same guy who released a statement to the AP, telling Danny Ainge to "STFU", when he criticized LeBron about complaining about hard fouls. Riley can't be too upset though, he did the same thing to Cavs in 2010 to come to Miami. It all just came full circle.
It's funny having watching you defended this guy relentessly the past 4 years, now clearly hating him. Riley manipulated him to come to Miami, but he always must've considered him a coward for doing so. Thus the comments he made before F/A even began.

PJR

07-31-2014, 04:40 PM

It's funny having watching you defended this guy relentessly the past 4 years, now clearly hating him.

Boy please. I don't hate LeBron. I actually love the players having the power. Just because it came full circle against the team I root for, doesn't mean I harbor resentment. I don't care that much.

JT123

07-31-2014, 04:46 PM

agree with everything but the bold...the Heat will be in the top 5 of the East, barring any injuries of course. and I don't think Riley believes that Lebron won't be missed, it's pretty well known that the impact Lebron gives on any team cannot be made up for (i.e. 2010-2104 Cavs). however, the East is pretty well rounded now with no one shining team really.

if the Cavs land Love...which is likely...then they are the clear favorites from the East but how well they do in their first year is to be seen. ECF locks for sure, can even stretch it to Finals if they click like 2008 Boston did from the onset.
I'm not seeing how they can finish top 5 in the East, despite the conference being weak. There is still Chicago, Indiana, Toronto, Washington, and of course the new look Cavs. All of these teams have much better rosters than Miami does, which makes them getting a 6th seed as their best case scenario. But once you add in the fact that Wade will likely miss at least 1/3 of the season, the Heat are more likely to finish as 7th or 8th in the East. The Heat lost their best scorer, playmaker, and rebounder. That's not something ANY team is going to easily recover from, especially not one that is gonna be lead by Chris Bosh of all people. :oldlol:

Jailblazers7

07-31-2014, 04:49 PM

Riley just isn't used to having people go against him. Not Lebron's job to tell Riley shit after that BS presser where Riley called him out.

Soundwave

07-31-2014, 05:28 PM

Riley just isn't used to having people go against him. Not Lebron's job to tell Riley shit after that BS presser where Riley called him out.

I knew Bran was gonna bail after Riley said that. He can't take being challenged directly like that.

SpecialQue

07-31-2014, 05:29 PM

Lol

outbreak

07-31-2014, 06:31 PM

It's just some cowardly shit that we haven't really seen from a true "superstar" before.

Remember when someone asked LeBron about going back to Cleveland last year and he said "I'm not going back to cold winters." That was all before they got yet another 1st overall pick to land Wiggins so now he tries to spin it as if he's the good guy, the hero with "I'm coming home!" :lol :facepalm

But yeah, zero loyalty from that chump. And to not even communicate with Riley or respond to him? Goddamn.....

Actually Lebron has publicly said multiple times over the last few years that he still planned to keep his promise to cleveland and he still wanted to go back and do things right there. This was before they had Wiggins or Bennett, maybe even before Kyrie I dont' recall but it was discussed here multiple times in the last few years.

Anyway Riley of all people should know it's a business and not to assume someone will resign until they have actually signed. I hate Lebron but they all know it's a business.

Hoopz2332

07-31-2014, 06:45 PM

lebron was going back to the Cavs regardless. Stephen A Smith said this last season!

Lebron James Should Return To Cleveland - ESPN First Take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HdG2Gi0RIo

Pat Riley f'ed up when he tried to pull that reverse psychology bs on Lebron and LBJ was like:whatever: :coleman:

jrong

07-31-2014, 09:42 PM

During the post-Finals conference where Riley challenged LeBron's "street hunger" was a jackass thing to do. For LeBron not to return texts and calls to Riley was equally a jackass thing and unprofessional as well.

You have the order reversed. LeBron refused to meet with Riley after the Finals while he was still under contract with the Heat, before he opted out.

That's why Riley's press conference happened.

Try it with your own boss. Next time he asks to see you when you're considering taking another job, but haven't done it yet which still makes you his employee, tell him you won't talk to him.

Rules don't apply to LeBron. That's actually one of the reasons he left. Riley wouldn't give Maverick and co. the run of the franchise, the way Cleveland did and will again. Once he realized the Heat don't operate like that, I don't think he was ever planning on coming back once his contract was up.

poido123

07-31-2014, 10:00 PM

Lebron is a jackass with a good PR team.

You see snippets of his jackassery when his PR team can't protect him every now and then :lol

G-train

07-31-2014, 10:09 PM

who cares.

#number6ix#

07-31-2014, 10:24 PM

I don't see why this is a big deal... Riley made is pitch to Bron in Vegas didn't work ... Pat is still my boy but this is kinda weak releasing this bit of info to the media

Dresta

07-31-2014, 10:35 PM

I don't see why this is a big deal... Riley made is pitch to Bron in Vegas didn't work ... Pat is still my boy but this is kinda weak releasing this bit of info to the media
Would've been nice for him to give Riley and the organisation that turned him from a playoff failure into an NBA champion a bit of a heads up before bolting and leaving them in the lurch just so he could make as big a media spectacle of himself as possible.

Seriously, the way he handled this was with exactly the same mentality as he left Cleveland, only the choice was different, and he now had a better idea of what would get positive media coverage. His personality hasn't changed; he's still an egomaniac who calls himself king and has 'chosen 1' tattooed on his back.

You have the order reversed. LeBron refused to meet with Riley after the Finals while he was still under contract with the Heat, before he opted out.

That's why Riley's press conference happened.

Try it with your own boss. Next time he asks to see you when you're considering taking another job, but haven't done it yet which still makes you his employee, tell him you won't talk to him.

Rules don't apply to LeBron. That's actually one of the reasons he left. Riley wouldn't give Maverick and co. the run of the franchise, the way Cleveland did and will again. Once he realized the Heat don't operate like that, I don't think he was ever planning on coming back once his contract was up.
Exactly.

alanLA92

08-01-2014, 01:53 AM

Meh should of took the break-up like a man.

tomtucker

08-01-2014, 02:29 AM

r15mohd

08-01-2014, 09:05 AM

I'm not seeing how they can finish top 5 in the East, despite the conference being weak. There is still Chicago, Indiana, Toronto, Washington, and of course the new look Cavs. All of these teams have much better rosters than Miami does, which makes them getting a 6th seed as their best case scenario. But once you add in the fact that Wade will likely miss at least 1/3 of the season, the Heat are more likely to finish as 7th or 8th in the East. The Heat lost their best scorer, playmaker, and rebounder. That's not something ANY team is going to easily recover from, especially not one that is gonna be lead by Chris Bosh of all people. :oldlol:

there's really no telling to be honest, either of us can be right/wrong...however, Indiana just lost their 1b scorer and yet to find an adequate filler. We don't know what is to become of Hibbert either...they can definitely drop off IMO.

Washington is a great young squad and can definitely see them moving up, however, I don't see that with Toronto though. They shined but I'm thinking it was more of a fluke year in them peaking than it being consistent. to be seen, of course.

With Miami, you have proven star to all-star talent in Bosh/Wade or Bosh/Deng combo's that can lead the Heat far, and they added a descent rebounder/scorer in McRoberts up front. I doubt it's the 7-8 seed as you suggest, I'm think more around the middle and higher if they click well.