Is LeBron the Luckiest "Superstar" of All Time???

[Kidbasketball20]

- Teams up with two fellow "superstars" who are WILLING to get paid less, less statistical numbers, AND be the #2 #3 betas to LeBron.

- The luckiest 3 pt corner shot in NBA History.

- Plays all his games in the Eastern Conference, at a time when their is 10x less talent compared to the Western Conference

- Derrick Rose is injured during Miami's 2 rings

- Paul George is injured now, the only major team the Cavs would have to compete against (besides the Heat/Bulls)

Others can add to the list, but the major points being the Conference he plays in (Never in NBA history have conferences been so unbalanced), and the injuries to major superstars he never had to face.

[Orlando Magic]

No. Kobe was drafted onto a team with prime Shaq and was gifted 3 rings.

Next.

[edrick]

Kobe.

[Trollsmasher]

It is Kobe in my opinion

[JT123]

I'd have to go with Kobe. Without those 3 rings Shaq gave him he wouldn't even be top 30 all time.

[russwest0]

OP Don't forget that Bail Allen shot after LeBron bricked that 3 :lol

[DaSeba5]

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[noob cake]

Kobe

Shaq made him. He would be a top 30 player right now as opposed to 8-13th place.

[JtotheIzzo]

No. Kobe was drafted onto a team with prime Shaq and was gifted 3 rings.

Next.

Hornets?

thought you were meant to be smart...

Next.
:roll:

[I<3NBA]

how is it lucky to be drafted by the Cavaliers?

[russwest0]

Kobe

Shaq made him. He would be a top 30 player right now as opposed to 8-13th place.

Kobe without Shaq = 2 time champ, 2 time Finals MVP.

LeBron without Wade = Ringless.

[JT123]

- Teams up with two fellow "superstars" who are WILLING to get paid less, less statistical numbers, AND be the #2 #3 betas to LeBron.

- The luckiest 3 pt corner shot in NBA History.

- Plays all his games in the Eastern Conference, at a time when their is 10x less talent compared to the Western Conference

- Derrick Rose is injured during Miami's 2 rings

- Paul George is injured now, the only major team the Cavs would have to compete against (besides the Heat/Bulls)

Others can add to the list, but the major points being the Conference he plays in (Never in NBA history have conferences been so unbalanced), and the injuries to major superstars he never had to face.
By the way, Lebron is 5-0 in the playoffs against the two "superstars" you listed. Weak trolling bruh.

[Frozen1]

Lebron wins: Tha Gawd.

Lebron loses: Teamates suck, the peyton manning of nba.

[NumberSix]

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[JT123]

Kobe without Shaq = 2 time champ, 2 time Finals MVP.

LeBron without Wade = Ringless.
No true basketball fan respects Kobe's two Finals MVP's, accept it bruh. He got the first one due to an injury to KG, and the second because Pau, Metta, and the refs rescued him from the biggest game 7 choke by a superstar in NBA history.

[Roundball_Rock]

No mention of Magic Johnson?

[KBaller33]

Why do people act like Chicago was some huge threat when they got beat by Miami 4-1 in ECF when Rose was healthy and the MVP? A healthy Rose wouldn't have meant anything against the Heat.

[JT123]

I would have to list Michael Jordan as the second luckiest ever. After losing 9 of his first 10 playoff games his front office gifts him Scottie Pippen, and the rest is history.

[Kidbasketball20]

Why do people act like Chicago was some huge threat when they got beat by Miami 4-1 in ECF when Rose was healthy and the MVP? A healthy Rose wouldn't have meant anything against the Heat.


You realize how well the Bulls team did WITHOUT Rose the last few years? The team got much better since the year Rose was MVP, they would been the Heat's stiffest competition.

[LBJ 23]

Nope. In his first 7 years the best 2nd option he could get was Mo Wiliams and for the last 2 years with Cavs he was seriously expected to win a chip and when he failed that was considered a huge failure. Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Jordan, ,... all of them had better teammates early in their careers,when you think about it it's incredible to how high standards Lebron was held to early in his career.

[played0ut]

Kobe.


It is Kobe in my opinion

Heh I don't think he saw it that way. It's not like he revelled in having Shaq to 'carry' him-- hell he hated deferring.


But I respect the fact that he wanted to prove that he could win without Shaq and did it. Twice.


No true basketball fan respects Kobe's two Finals MVP's, accept it bruh. He got the first one due to an injury to KG, and the second because Pau, Metta, and the refs rescued him from the biggest game 7 choke by a superstar in NBA history.

well geez. you said it, so it must be true. :rolleyes:

[IMObjective]

-extremely positive media sensation for returning home when it wasn't really the heroic story that the media was portraying it as.
-team dumps his future superstar replacement for a great beta that'll be perfect for getting him a ring NOW, before the start of the season.

EDIT: of course, every single person in the top ten had some great luck throughout their careers. You're not making the top ten without some luck.

[Soundwave]

Shaq's Magic "miraculously" won the lottery in 1993 (for the second straight year) with like a 1% chance (rigged much Commish?) to get Penny Hardaway. From that point on, he had pretty much stacked teams through till the end of his career.

Magic Johnson would be another pick until he was forced to retire because of AIDS.

[Lebronxrings]

thread backfire

op is a phaggit.

[tmacattack33]

Even if you think he is fortunate for being able to play with Bosh and Wade, then you should be saying he is fortunate, not lucky, because him playing with them was a a choice and it wasn't luck :facepalm

[dubeta]

OP is a clown

LeBron is the most unluckiest superstar ever

Drafted to an incompetent organisation
Wastes 7 years carrying scrubs
Finally goes to Miami
Wade declines the second lebron goes there
LeBron carrys wade and a bosh allergic to rebounding
LeBron has to lead the team in every stat just to win 2 rings


Compared to Kobe and Duncan, lebron is by far the most unluckiest. Duncan and Kobe both had goat organisations with star players carrying them to multiple rings

therefore op is a fakkit

[jzek]

Kobe is. He wouldn't be in the top 10 if it weren't for Shaq's gifts. Without Shaq, he has 2 rings and 1 MVP which isn't enough to crack the top 10 all time.

LeBron NEVER got carried by anyone (as proven by his equal number of FMVPs and rings) and thus deserve all his spot in the top 10 all time.

[Fudge]

Ray in 2013 was probably the biggest bailout i've seen for a "superstar", so yes. Extreme lucky.

[Kidbasketball20]

Even if you think he is fortunate for being able to play with Bosh and Wade, then you should be saying he is fortunate, not lucky, because him playing with them was a a choice and it wasn't luck :facepalm

WTF? No Hall of Famer/Top5 player (at the time) would in their right mind accept being the #2 Beta to ANYONE. Do you honestly think Kobe, AI, KG, etc... would willing give up stats, the leadership position, and minutes to another Alpha? Only BETA's like Wade and Bosh would. :facepalm :facepalm

Therefore he is LUCKY

[JT123]

Ray in 2013 was probably the biggest bailout i've seen for a "superstar", so yes. Extreme lucky.
You really wanna go there dude? :lol
Reggie Jackson is the only reason why Durant wasn't giving his pussified MVP speech from his couch! :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Hey Yo]

No mention of Magic Johnson?
He and Kobe are the best candidates.

[JT123]

OP is a clown

LeBron is the most unluckiest superstar ever

Drafted to an incompetent organisation
Wastes 7 years carrying scrubs
Finally goes to Miami
Wade declines the second lebron goes there
LeBron carrys wade and a bosh allergic to rebounding
LeBron has to lead the team in every stat just to win 2 rings


Compared to Kobe and Duncan, lebron is by far the most unluckiest. Duncan and Kobe both had goat organisations with star players carrying them to multiple rings

therefore op is a fakkit
This. After 7 seasons of being forced to carry garbage, he finally goes to Miami and has some decent teammates. Then after just one season, Wade declines off a cliff and he is basically carrying the Miami Cavaliers part 2. :(

[allball]

Magic and Bird. love them both but they were drafted to loaded teams.

[Kidbasketball20]

This. After 7 seasons of being forced to carry garbage, he finally goes to Miami and has some decent teammates. Then after just one season, Wade declines off a cliff and he is basically carrying the Miami Cavaliers part 2. :(

"Decent"!??! :facepalm This team was built completely around the wants and needs of LeBron James ego. **** out here with that bullshit, and it's not his fault he chose to join up with a fading superstar.

LeBron has gotten everything he has wanted in teams and it still isn't enough.

[JT123]

"Decent"!??! :facepalm This team was built completely around the wants and needs of LeBron James ego. **** out here with that bullshit, and it's not his fault he chose to join up with a fading superstar.

LeBron has gotten everything he has wanted in teams and it still isn't enough.
So Lebron "wanted" to have to do all the scoring, rebounding, and playmaking?! :biggums:
If that is the case why didn't he just stay in Cleveland? Fck outta here with that bullshit!
Also, Lebron did not get everything he wanted. Bron wanted more minutes for James Jones, yet Spo continued to use an old and worthless Shane Battier instead. Mike Miller was also amnestied against Lebron's wishes. The Heat chose to ignore Lebron's wishes, and now they will be forced to pay the price as they struggle for an 8th seed this season.

[Hey Yo]

Magic and Bird. love them both but they were drafted to loaded teams.
The year before Bird's arrival, Boston won 29 games.

The next season with Rookie Bird they won 61 games.

[Kidbasketball20]

So Lebron "wanted" to have to do all the scoring, rebounding, and playmaking?! :biggums:
If that is the case why didn't he just stay in Cleveland? Fck outta here with that bullshit!
Also, Lebron did not get everything he wanted. Bron wanted more minutes for James Jones, yet Spo continued to use an old and worthless Shane Battier instead. Mike Miller was also amnestied against Lebron's wishes. The Heat chose to ignore Lebron's wishes, and now they will be forced to pay the price as they struggle for an 8th seed this season.

8th seed? You're a joke.

And I'm not talking about last year, I'm talking about since he CAME to Miami he's had EVERYTHING HE WANTED ON A SILVER PLATTER. The last 4 years. That's not even up for debate dummy.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Kobe was drafted on the Lakers with Prime Shaq got carried to 3 rings. Also had the GOAT coach.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

if the Heat were in the West, no way they would have made the finals in 2014. Spurs or OKC would have taken them out much earlier.

[Kidbasketball20]

if the Heat were in the West, no way they would have made the finals in 2014. Spurs or OKC would have taken them out much earlier.


Same with both years before it as well.


2013 they were elimination games (And seconds) away from losing again. NO SHOT They make it past the Western Conference in 2013.

[20Four]

Kobe is. He wouldn't be in the top 10 if it weren't for Shaq's gifts. Without Shaq, he has 2 rings and 1 MVP which isn't enough to crack the top 10 all time.

LeBron NEVER got carried by anyone (as proven by his equal number of FMVPs and rings) and thus deserve all his spot in the top 10 all time.
Your a fvcking dumbass if you believe what you just said...kobe without shaq has 2 rings ur right, but shaq without kobe has 1...lol

Ray allen saved lebron so many times your a joke in this thread, and a joke in life, enjoy flippin burgers

[Magic 32]

Kobe lucky?

Gets no credit for putting up 28,5,5 in two championship runs.

Plays his entire career in the west (where almost no perimeter star can get out of the first round without an all-star big).

Waste his peak away on Smush Parker and Kwame Brown (Tim Thomas anyone?).

Gets robbed of his greatest career moment when his teammates doesn't showing up in G5 2010 finals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXiec1qE0rs), then gets crusified for running out of gas two games later on drained knees in his 14th season.

Chris Paul trade

[andgar923]

No brainer.

Pippen.

Without MJ he's not even an all star, let alone a hall of fame.

[Meticode]

Well, that changed quickly.

[SouBeachTalents]

No brainer.

Pippen.

Without MJ he's not even an all star, let alone a hall of fame.

His multiple All-NBA and All-Defensive selections, not to mention his 3rd place MVP finish in 1994, would say otherwise.

[Hey Yo]

Kobe lucky?

Gets no credit for putting up 28,5,5 in two championship runs.

Plays his entire career in the west (where almost no perimeter star can get out of the first round without an all-star big).

Waste his prime away on Smush Parker and Kwame Brown (Tim Thomas anyone?).

Gets robbed of his greatest career moment when his teammates doesn't showing up in G5 2010 finals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXiec1qE0rs), then gets crusified for running out of gass two games later on drained knees in his 14th season.

Chris Paul trade
Artest was the MVP of game 7 in 2010, followed by Gasol.

Must win do or die game for Kobe......he comes up lame, just like he always did in his Finals career.

[Magic 32]

Artest was the MVP of game 7 in 2010, followed by Gasol.

Must win do or die game for Kobe......he comes up lame, just like he always did in his Finals career.

Can you read?

[andgar923]

His multiple All-NBA and All-Defensive selections, not to mention his 3rd place MVP finish in 1994, would say otherwise.

:facepalm

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Kobe Bryant was drafted to a team with Prime Shaq...Magic Johnson was drafted to a team with reigning MVP Kareem Abdul Jabbar

[dubeta]

Kobe lucky?

Gets no credit for putting up 28,5,5 in two championship runs.

Plays his entire career in the west (where almost no perimeter star can get out of the first round without an all-star big).

Waste his peak away on Smush Parker and Kwame Brown (Tim Thomas anyone?).

Gets robbed of his greatest career moment when his teammates doesn't showing up in G5 2010 finals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXiec1qE0rs), then gets crusified for running out of gas two games later on drained knees in his 14th season.

Chris Paul trade

stop beating 'round the bush he choked plain and simple

[SouBeachTalents]

stop beating 'round the bush he choked plain and simple

As did LeBron in the 2011 Finals

[comerb]

Kobe.

Lebron was drafted by the Cavaliers for **** sake.

[AintNoSunshine]

:roll:

When has a star player been GIFTED 3 rings????

dude's been GIFTED more rings than some top 10 GOATs had EARNED.:oldlol:

[houston]

no the answer is magic

[Magic 32]

:roll:

When has a star player been GIFTED 3 rings????

dude's been GIFTED more rings than some top 10 GOATs had EARNED.:oldlol:

Kobe Bryant - The only superstar who has rings that don't count.

Kobe's 2001 and 2002 playoff run were better than most 10 GOATs.

[choppermagic]

Kobe Bryant - The only superstar who has rings that don't count.

Kobe's 2001 and 2002 playoff run were better than most 10 GOATs.

Also the only superstar where people call out his FMVPs because another player might have had a better single GAME in the series, rather than the actual criteria of better SERIES. It's like saying Durant or Lebron dont deserve MVP honours because Melo had a better game than them on January 15th. FOr example...Melo was the MVP of January 15 so Lebron/Durant dont deserve the MVP ha ha

[k0kakw0rld]

Kobe without Shaq = 2 time champ, 2 time Finals MVP.

LeBron without Wade = Ringless.

He managed to win FMVP playing alongside with another FMVP that's deep. That can't be said for Bean :confusedshrug:

[dubeta]

He managed to win FMVP playing alongside with another FMVP that's deep. That can't be said for Bean :confusedshrug:

lebron turned a FMVP to a sidekick

kobe stole FMVP's from gasol

[Magic 32]

lebron forced a FMVP to be a sidekick


Fixed

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[Jlamb47]

5/7 > 2/5

[riseagainst]

lebron is pretty fortunate from 2011 to now. Everything has been working out perfectly for him. He leaves a sh1tty team to win some rings, then that team gets 1st picks, then he goes back and everyone just forgets that he left in the first place. Can't get better than that.

[aj1987]

5/7 > 2/5
4/11 > 1/18
2/2 > 2/5

[nathanjizzle]

Why do people act like Chicago was some huge threat when they got beat by Miami 4-1 in ECF when Rose was healthy and the MVP? A healthy Rose wouldn't have meant anything against the Heat.

i guess the spurs shouldnt have beat the heat by your logic right? i gues every team should remain static. :facepalm

but lets not even consider rose's injury effecting lebrons 2 championships. But how they would have effected his 2 mvps. What? rose wouldnt have done anything to deter lebrons mvps? wait, he won one over lebron in 2011. now go **** yourself and the hole you came out of.

[ZMonkey11]

No, it's Isiah.

He was the luckiest because despite his meager frame, God bestowed upon him the power to take over a game at will and the leadership to take a rag tag group of Pistons and turn them into a terror to be feared throughout the NBA.

Isiah was the luckiest, Isiah was The Chosen One.

[Roundball_Rock]

:roll:

When has a star player been GIFTED 3 rings????

dude's been GIFTED more rings than some top 10 GOATs had EARNED.:oldlol:

Never. Kobe was instrumental in the Lakers winning those rings. Remember, it was not until Kobe became an elite player that the Lakers started winning titles, even though Shaq was the superior player.

[GrapeApe]

i guess the spurs shouldnt have beat the heat by your logic right? i gues every team should remain static. :facepalm

but lets not even consider rose's injury effecting lebrons 2 championships. But how they would have effected his 2 mvps. What? rose wouldnt have done anything to deter lebrons mvps? wait, he won one over lebron in 2011. now go **** yourself and the hole you came out of.

Rose played in '12 and did nothing to deter LeBron's MVP. Cross that one out. In '13 LeBron put up historic numbers on a 66 win team. How would Rose have detered that? Cross that one out too. I'm not sure you thought through that response very well.

[dubeta]

kobe would be the luckiest but he was never a superstar so idk

[riseagainst]

4/11 > 1/18
2/2 > 2/5

wtf is 2/2 and 2/5?

people making up random numbers now.

[Lebronxrings]

kobe.


Lebron has 0 case here and everyone that thinks he is the luckiest deserves a perma ban.

[20Four]

kobe.


Lebron has 0 case here and everyone that thinks he is the luckiest deserves a perma ban.
lol you are an idiot...

[Dragic4Life]

Who had PRIME Shaq?:confusedshrug:

[20Four]

Who had PRIME Shaq?:confusedshrug:
ok? And? Shaq without kobe = 1 title....kobe without shaq is 2....and trust me shaq isn't winning shit without kobe on that team and vice versa

[JT123]

5/7 > 2/5
Your avatar isn't fooling anyone, Kobetard. Funny how this "Spurs fan" never even posts about his team. Only thing this idiot ever posts is "2/5" :rolleyes:

[JT123]

ok? And? Shaq without kobe = 1 title....kobe without shaq is 2....and trust me shaq isn't winning shit without kobe on that team and vice versa
T-Mac, Vince Carter, Grant Hill, Allen Iverson, Scottie Pippen, and Allen Houston are just a handful of players that would have 3 peated with prime Shaq. :lol
They probably would have 4 peated, as they wouldn't have caused problems in the locker room out of jealousy. :confusedshrug:

[Jlamb47]

Your avatar isn't fooling anyone, Kobetard. Funny how this "Spurs fan" never even posts about his team. Only thing this idiot ever posts is "2/5" :rolleyes:

Funny how i could care less what you say??

[Jlamb47]

4/11 > 1/18
2/2 > 2/5
Lebron lost to Duncan last year you shouldnt talk to me

[Jlamb47]

wtf is 2/2 and 2/5?

people making up random numbers now.

They cant use real numbers because itl make Lebron look sh1tty so they make some up

[JT123]

Funny how i could care less what you say??
Are you making a statement or asking me a question? :wtf:
Learn how to speak English, Kobetard. :roll:
Only a fakkit would keep pretending to be a Spurs fan.

[aj1987]

Lebron lost to Duncan last year you shouldnt talk to me
The Spurs lost to the HEAT in '13. It's 1-1, bitch.

[steve]

This board focuses on some of the dumbest shit.

[AnaheimLakers24]

lebron has stacked teams since his rookie year an only has 2 titles
:lol

[Jlamb47]

Are you making a statement or asking me a question? :wtf:
Learn how to speak English, Kobetard. :roll:
Only a fakkit would keep pretending to be a Spurs fan.

nah im telling you b1tch

[Jlamb47]

The Spurs lost to the HEAT in '13. It's 1-1, bitch.

Well Duncan beat Lebron twice f4g
2>1 bitch

[Dragic4Life]

Why is the word superstar in inverted commas?

:facepalm

[Hey Yo]

Never. Kobe was instrumental in the Lakers winning those rings. Remember, it was not until Kobe became an elite player that the Lakers started winning titles, even though Shaq was the superior player.
Kobe wasn't elite in 99-00

[aj1987]

Well Duncan beat Lebron twice f4g
2>1 bitch
Why would I give a shit about '07? He wasn't on the Heat. Stop posting, shit for brains.

Oh, and it's still 1-1, bitch.