Kobe's Game 7 in 2010 Finals in Perspective

[Stringer Bell]

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2010/6/21/1525036/kobe-bryants-game-7-in-perspective

Valid points and a good argument? Or too much biased crap to excuse a poor performance?

[sportjames23]

*pulls up a lounge chair, with a glass of red kool-aid and some nachos and cheese dip*

[ArbitraryWater]

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2010/6/21/1525036/kobe-bryants-game-7-in-perspective

Valid points and a good argument? Or too much biased crap to excuse a poor performance?

ya

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[Dragic4Life]

My perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YP6ydCCKYU

[Soundwave]

My perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YP6ydCCKYU

Lawd have mercy at that shot selection :oldlol:

[Genaro]

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[T_L_P]

Lawd have mercy at that shot selection :oldlol:

Yep. It's not like he had an off shooting night and the defense was too much. He was chucking up terrible shots, for reasons only known to him.

The game gets a little too much criticism, but it wasn't a good game.

[ArbitraryWater]

Lawd have mercy at that shot selection :oldlol:

Look at the 2nd one with Artest wide open at the 3 line :roll:

[Hoopz2332]

My perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YP6ydCCKYU


:wtf: :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

:wtf: :lol

There are about 3 absolutely hilarious airballs/sideboard shots in those 24.. Just strange, strange shots :lol

[AlphaWolf24]

agree 100%..well said

[HOoopCityJones]

Cirrrrrrrrrrrrrrcle Jerk.

[Dragic4Life]

Cirrrrrrrrrrrrrrcle Jerk.
Butttttttttttttt Hurt.

[navy]

Not sure why people are trying to make excuses for a blatant chuck job. He was taking horrible shots.

Only reason the Lakers won is because they shot 20 free throws in the fourth quarter. (Whether deserved or not, we all know Joey Crawford likes to steal the spotlight)

[atljonesbro]

This was one of the most embarrassing individual performances in the history of basketball.

[HOoopCityJones]

This was one of the most embarrassing individual performances in the history of basketball.

Well, at least it was one game and not , ya know , an entire series. :roll:

[dubeta]

We all know kobe wanted to get that FMVP from gasol

Heck IMO kobe would have sabotaged the entire finals if it meant gasol wouldn't win fmvp

Could you imagine if kobe was relegated to a sidekick AGAIN in his career, would kill him IMO

[Magic 32]

Moses Malone - Game 4 (1983): 9-22 FG
Larry Bird - Game 7 (1984): 6-18 FG
Magic Johnson - Game 6 (1987): 7-21 FG
Joe Dumars - Game 4 (1989): 5-13 FG
Hakeem Olajuwon - Game 7 (1994): 10-25 FG
Michael Jordan - Game 6 (1996): 5-19 FG
Paul Pierce - Game 6 (2008): 4-13 FG
Dirk Nowitzki - Game 6 (2011): 9-27 FG

:pimp:

Bonus

Magic Johnson - Game 6 (1985): 5-15 FG
Tim Duncan - Game 4 (2007): 4-15 FG

[dubeta]

Moses Malone - Game 4 (1983): 9-22 FG
Larry Bird - Game 7 (1984): 6-18 FG
Magic Johnson - Game 6 (1985): 5-15 FG
Magic Johnson - Game 6 (1987): 7-21 FG
Hakeem Olajuwon - Game 7 (1994): 10-25 FG
Michael Jordan - Game 6 (1996): 5-19 FG
Tim Duncan - Game 4 (2007): 4-15 FG
Paul Pierce - Game 6 (2008): 4-13 FG
Dirk Nowitzki - Game 6 (2011): 9-27 FG

:pimp:
Lol Gtfo none were as bad as 6-24 (25%) you just proved that Kobe's the worst outta all the greats

[Magic 32]

Lol Gtfo none were as bad as 6-24 (25%) you just proved that Kobe's the worst outta all the greats

Yes. The GOAT was 1.3% better than Kobe in 1996

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[StephHamann]

My perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YP6ydCCKYU


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WpuYGqCEHDg/UBznzaqReKI/AAAAAAAAB_0/0Vc8_mnnhqw/s1600/mind-blown.gif

[ImKobe]

Let me tell you what happened

Lakers won #16

Kobe won his 5th

[dubeta]

Let me tell you what happened

Lakers won #16

Kobe won his 5th

And still not top 10 all time

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Not sure why people are trying to make excuses for a blatant chuck job. He was taking horrible shots.

Only reason the Lakers won is because they shot 20 free throws in the fourth quarter. (Whether deserved or not, we all know Joey Crawford likes to steal the spotlight)

Ehhhh, they had 23 offensive boards (Celts had 8) which was the real main reason. They took 12 more shots in the game and took 20 more FTs. These things are what swung the game, and although Kobe had a poor shooting game and Garnett was clearly dead on his feet (3 rebounds), those are the facts that made the difference.

[jstern]

Way too much rationalization in order to justify his point of view. The person who wrote it sounded extremely insecure because he's desperately trying to defend 6 for 24 shooting. Heck, he even wrote it as a preemptive attack.

Another way to view it if you're bias towards Kobe is, imagine a really bad high stakes game by Lebron, and now try to defend it to the death, try to convince others that in reality it was a pretty good game.

What you write is going to be pretty long, since you will have to overly explain, twisting and turning as to why it was good.

[played0ut]

It was crap. But it's OK. All time greats have crap performances.

Jerry West did bad the last game when he finally won his ring. He gives props to his teammates. As star players they carry their teams more than not, but you're supposed to support your team AND have your team support you when you need help.

Scottie Pippen, Ray Allen, Wilt Chamberlain, Pau Gasoline...


That's what teammates are for T_T


:applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:

[riseagainst]

It was crap. But it's OK. All time greats have crap performances.

Jerry West did bad the last game when he finally won his ring. He gives props to his teammates. As star players they carry their teams more than not, but you're supposed to support your team AND have your team support you when you need help.

Scottie Pippen, Ray Allen, Wilt Chamberlain, Pau Gasoline...


That's what teammates are for T_T


:applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:

:applause:

[Beastmode88]

And still not top 10 all time

so isn't lebron. :lol

[Lebronxrings]

It was crap. But it's OK. All time greats have crap performances.

Jerry West did bad the last game when he finally won his ring. He gives props to his teammates. As star players they carry their teams more than not, but you're supposed to support your team AND have your team support you when you need help.

Scottie Pippen, Ray Allen, Wilt Chamberlain, Pau Gasoline...


That's what teammates are for T_T


:applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:
West and wilt aren't stars :facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

Moses Malone - Game 4 (1983): 9-22 FG
Larry Bird - Game 7 (1984): 6-18 FG
Magic Johnson - Game 6 (1987): 7-21 FG
Joe Dumars - Game 4 (1989): 5-13 FG
Hakeem Olajuwon - Game 7 (1994): 10-25 FG
Michael Jordan - Game 6 (1996): 5-19 FG
Paul Pierce - Game 6 (2008): 4-13 FG
Dirk Nowitzki - Game 6 (2011): 9-27 FG

:pimp:

Bonus

Magic Johnson - Game 6 (1985): 5-15 FG
Tim Duncan - Game 4 (2007): 4-15 FG

So you couldn't find ONE performance by an all-time great as bad as 6-24? :eek:

Shit I may need to drop Kobe a few spots.. And he did it in GAME 7 TOO?!?!? gaaawd damn

[Magic 32]

So you couldn't find ONE performance by an all-time great as bad as 6-24? :eek:


1.3%

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[played0ut]

It was crap. But it's OK. All time greats have crap performances.

Jerry West did bad the last game when he finally won his ring. He gives props to his teammates. As star players they carry their teams more than not, but you're supposed to support your team AND have your team support you when you need help.

Scottie Pippen, Ray Allen, Wilt Chamberlain, Pau Gasoline...


That's what teammates are for T_T


:applause: :applause: :applause: :cheers:


:applause:

it's true. People don't give enough credit to teammates.



West and wilt aren't stars :facepalm

lol right.

[SamuraiSWISH]

It was a putrid shooting performance, particularly off over zealous / hero ball shot selection. But he rebounded well, and in perspective ... nerves got to everyone that game because I remember everyone shooting terribly. It's an over blown criticism.

[played0ut]

^

Yeah, he forced it too hard (like PJ said). But his teammates were shooting like shit (aside from Fisher).

Honestly, if you were Kobe/MJ, and your teammates were bricking all day, you'd continue shooting-- Kobe was still the most skilled scorer on that team.

Jerry West said it best (paraphrased [I lost the link]):

"You can talk about his shot selection and FG%, but if you're the best shooter on the team why would go let a worse shooter take the shot"

[SouBeachTalents]

I respect this performance more than I do LeBron's 2011 Finals

[ArbitraryWater]

It was a putrid shooting performance, particularly off over zealous / hero ball shot selection. But he rebounded well, and in perspective ... nerves got to everyone that game because I remember everyone shooting terribly. It's an over blown criticism.

Because others shot bad this now counts as excuse for Kobe? :oldlol:

Ohh you guys are adorable

[imdaman99]

Winning ugly is better than getting bent over looking pretty shooting 60% and averaging 28.

[ArbitraryWater]

Winning ugly is better than getting bent over looking pretty shooting 60% and averaging 28.

For the team? Yea..

But you should go get checked if you rather have your player go 6-24 than score 28 on 57%

[Hey Yo]

I respect this performance more than I do LeBron's 2011 Finals
Kobe was first option in the 2010 Finals.

For some reason, Wade became first option from the opening tip in the 2011 Finals.

[imdaman99]

For the team? Yea..

But you should go get checked if you rather have your player go 6-24 than score 28 on 57%
Remind me of bran's performance against this same 2010 Celtics team... since we're comparing things and all.

Was quittage involved?

[ArbitraryWater]

Remind me of bran's performance against this same 2010 Celtics team... since we're comparing things and all.

Was quittage involved?

I think so.. Tough question:

27/9/7 on 45% vs 29/8/4 on 41%

Who you takin'?

[Hey Yo]

Remind me of bran's performance against this same 2010 Celtics team... since we're comparing things and all.

Was quittage involved?
27-9-7 with 2 steals while shooting 45% for the series.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Because others shot bad this now counts as excuse for Kobe? :oldlol:

Ohh you guys are adorable
No, not an excuse. We all know Kobe could've performed much better in 2004, 2008, and 2010 Finals.

It just puts everything into proper perspective mentioning everyone's shooting woes that game. LeBron stans have an agenda liking to hang their hat on Kobe's 6/24 game 7 as if totally defines his career, or even that game. Everyone shot bad.

Kobe rebounded his ass off (will to win), and hit THE JUMPER to seal the deal on the game over Ray Allen's closely contested defense.

But lettuce be reality.

A) At least he had the balls to leave NOTHING in the clip with the game / championship on the line. Money on the table time.

Sidenote: Everyone shot bad, so I rather the best player on the court gunning with the ability to take the game over and win it than him just play hot potato with less capable / culpuble players. No fear.

B) Celtics actually defended him. They weren't sagging off him, begging him, daring him, disrespecting him by letting him shoot WIDE OPEN jumpers from long or even mid range ala Bron's 2013 game 7.

:oldlol:

[rmt]

"Ron Artest was the most valuable player tonight," Phil Jackson said. "He brought life to our team."

http://www.webcitation.org/5wfrwRtjY


"... the more I tried to push, the more it kept getting away from me.

[ArbitraryWater]

No, not an excuse. We all know Kobe could've performed much better in 2004, 2008, and 2010 Finals.

It just puts everything into proper perspective mentioning everyone's shooting woes that game. LeBron stans have an agenda liking to hang their hat on Kobe's 6/24 game 7 as if totally defines his career, or even that game. Everyone shot bad.

Kobe rebounded his ass off (will to win), and hit THE JUMPER to seal the deal on the game over Ray Allen's closely contested defense.

But lettuce be reality.

A) At least he had the balls to leave NOTHING in the clip with the game / championship on the line. Money on the table time.

Sidenote: Everyone shot bad, so I rather the best player on the court gunning with the ability to take the game over and win it than him just play hot potato with less capable / culpuble players. No fear.

B) Celtics actually defended him. They weren't sagging off him, begging him, daring him, disrespecting him by letting him shoot WIDE OPEN jumpers from long or even mid range ala Bron's 2013 game 7.

:oldlol:


:roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJhsMcdchM

Keep hyping that choking though and make up lies... Doesn't look like a game sealing shot to me :oldlol: (Btw Kobe hit his last shot with 5.22 left in the 4th quarter... Gave the Lakers a 4pt lead, after that he took 2 more shots which were both misses... nice game sealing shot we have here.. Samurai making up new definitions of "game sealing" n shit)

[Milbuck]

No, not an excuse. We all know Kobe could've performed much better in 2004, 2008, and 2010 Finals.

It just puts everything into proper perspective mentioning everyone's shooting woes that game. LeBron stans have an agenda liking to hang their hat on Kobe's 6/24 game 7 as if totally defines his career, or even that game. Everyone shot bad.

Kobe rebounded his ass off (will to win), and hit THE JUMPER to seal the deal on the game over Ray Allen's closely contested defense.

But lettuce be reality.

A) At least he had the balls to leave NOTHING in the clip with the game / championship on the line. Money on the table time.

Sidenote: Everyone shot bad, so I rather the best player on the court gunning with the ability to take the game over and win it than him just play hot potato with less capable / culpuble players. No fear.

B) Celtics actually defended him. They weren't sagging off him, begging him, daring him, disrespecting him by letting him shoot WIDE OPEN jumpers from long or even mid range ala Bron's 2013 game 7.

:oldlol:
Quit with the logic, Swish. The fact is, Kobe could've contributed more to the win with a monstrous 8 point performance, but he didn't. He settled for trying hard despite having a bad night. He could've easily quit like he should have, but the dumb bastard kept going for it.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJhsMcdchM

If anything, that is bad defense on Kawhi's part :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

If anything, that is bad defense on Kawhi's part :oldlol:

You guys are pretty funny :oldlol:

Everything LeBron makes "bad defense, sagged off"

Kobe misses "Will to win, went out and tried to get it, 15 rebounds doeeee, PHYVE RINGZ TO SHOW FOR IT!!!"













--- Milbuck: 8 points on 27% is obviously > 23 points on 25%...

You guys got to use your brain.

If you score in the 20%'s you're obviously hurting your team by taking shots, so the more shots you take / points you score, the more you hurt the team... You basically get 3 misses for every make...

Kobe made 3 more shots, but missed 10 more shots.......... And you can bet LeBron ain't bringing that shit in game 7 of the nba finals lmfao

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You guys are pretty funny :oldlol:

Everything LeBron makes "bad defense, sagged off"

Kobe misses "Will to win, went out and tried to get it, 15 rebounds doeeee, PHYVE RINGZ TO SHOW FOR IT!!!"

Not everyone loves LeBron like you, dude. You're defending a blatant mishap on defense by Leonard. :oldlol:

It is also common knowledge that SA sagged off on LeBron for the majority of the '13 finals. Not sure how you could argue otherwise.

[Milbuck]

Not everyone loves LeBron like you, dude. You're defending a blatant mishap on defense by Leonard. :oldlol:

It is also common knowledge that SA sagged off on LeBron for the majority of the '13 finals. Not sure how you could argue otherwise.
But Lebron put up 17ppg on 39% shooting for 3 straight games in that finals series, dude. No way someone as good as Lebron plays like that with the opposition sagging off. They must've been all up in his shit and triple teaming constantly.

[ArbitraryWater]

Not everyone loves LeBron like you, dude. You're defending a blatant mishap on defense by Leonard. :oldlol:

It is also common knowledge that SA sagged off on LeBron for the majority of the '13 finals. Not sure how you could argue otherwise.

It's not about loving or not, it's about common logic... What are we arguing here?

Kobe's game 7 was hot garbage, and LeBron never had a worse big game is what I'm saying... In fact a game 7 like that doesn't deserve any rings


And I should dig up some screenshots of all 5 Spurs players with their heads focused on LeBron...

[ArbitraryWater]

Milbuck is so funny right now

It would be one thing if LeBron 2011 matches with Kobe 2004 only, but Kobe has 2000, 2001, 2008 and 2010 as well :lol

[dubeta]

After watching his bricks in game 7 again I realize he has no argument for FMVP, heck they didnt even deserve the ring, celtics were up but refs clearly gave them that game with so many 4th quarter freethrows

therefore Kobe officially now has 1 ring, 1 FMVP, 1 MVP

(You expect me to count shaq's gifts? :oldlol: )

1,1,1Be

[Hey Yo]

AW ruining many in this thread.

[ArbitraryWater]

AW ruining many in this thread.


http://thestranded.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/omar-come-at-the-king.jpg

[Milbuck]

What's so funny about what I said? I was agreeing with you, no way the Spurs were sagging off of Lebron. Surely if they were, he would've torched them in those 3 straight games instead of putting 17ppg on 44% TS. The way they put prime Bowen on him and triple teamed him every time he got the ball..it's no surprise how those games went.

[K Xerxes]

Milbuck is so funny right now

It would be one thing if LeBron 2011 matches with Kobe 2004 only, but Kobe has 2000, 2001, 2008 and 2010 as well :lol

Lebron shat himself against the Spurs in 2007 and quit in 2010. Also a Ray Allen miss from getting a LOT of blame in 2013. Both have underperformed on the highest stage multiple times.

[ArbitraryWater]

What's so funny about what I said? I was agreeing with you, no way the Spurs were sagging off of Lebron. Surely if they were, he would've torched them in those 3 straight games. The way they put prime Bowen on him and triple teamed him every time he got the ball..it's no surprise how those games went.

You mean like this? http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lebron-james-2007-nba-finals.jpg

or this?

http://stats.nba.com/photos/lebron-pass-700-130620.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

6/24 > 2/5

[Droid101]

Kobe's game 7 was hot garbage, and LeBron never had a worse big game is what I'm saying...
You got everything wrong in this sentence. Par for the course I guess.

[ArbitraryWater]

6/24 > 2/5

Now this isn't even mathematically correct anymore :oldlol:

[Milbuck]

You mean like this? http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lebron-james-2007-nba-finals.jpg

or this?

http://stats.nba.com/photos/lebron-pass-700-130620.jpg
This is hilarious :oldlol:

You have absolutely no legitimate rebuttal, so you find two pictures to cover for you, with one of them being from a totally different series...in which he also sucked, but that's irrelevant.

It's posters like you, the ones who aren't full-fledged trolls that I can easily ignore, but are still obvious stans that are just intelligent enough to warrant a response, that make me hate discussing basketball sometimes. For ****'s sake, just do us all a favor and throw on your Corleone helmet already.

[played0ut]

"Ron Artest was the most valuable player tonight," Phil Jackson said. "He brought life to our team."

http://www.webcitation.org/5wfrwRtjY


"... the more I tried to push, the more it kept getting away from me.”

"... I wanted it so bad, and sometimes when you want it so bad, it slips away from you. My guys picked me up.” - Kobe

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap?gid=2010061713


It was crap. But it's OK. All time greats have crap performances.

Jerry West did bad the last game when he finally won his ring. He gives props to his teammates. As star players they carry their teams more often than not, but you're supposed to support your team AND have your team support you when you need help.

Scottie Pippen, Ray Allen, Wilt Chamberlain, Pau Gasol...


That's what teammates are for T_T



You're right, that game Kobe wasn't the best. But he was good over the finals, no?




Quit with the logic, Swish. The fact is, Kobe could've contributed more to the win with a monstrous 8 point performance, but he didn't. He settled for trying hard despite having a bad night. He could've easily quit like he should have, but the dumb bastard kept going for it.

Who should've taken over then? They were all shooting crappily. When it comes down to it and everyone shoots like crap, logic dictates you give it to the best scorer (which is Kobe).

But yeah, he should've at least passed more to Fisher. He was the only one shooting well.

[Milbuck]

Who should've taken over then? They were all shooting crappily. When it comes down to it and everyone shoots like crap, logic dictates you give it to the best scorer (which is Kobe).

But yeah, he should've at least passed more to Fisher. He was the only one shooting well.
I was being sarcastic :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

This is hilarious :oldlol:

You have absolutely no legitimate rebuttal, so you find two pictures to cover for you, with one of them being from a totally different series...in which he also sucked, but that's irrelevant.

It's posters like you, the ones who aren't full-fledged trolls that I can easily ignore, but are still obvious stans that are just intelligent enough to warrant a response, that make me hate discussing basketball. For ****'s sake, just do us all a favor and throw on your Corleone helmet already.


It's posters like you, the ones who aren't full fledged trolls that I can easily ignore, but are still obvious stans that are just intelligent ennough to warrant a response... Posting some stat lines, rounding up all of Kobe's numbers for the 08-10 vs 11-13 talk, then going on posting some 2001 series numbers to prove he wasn't carried by Shaq, and finishing it off by having Kobe ahead of LeBron... And now what are you even trying to argue, that this game 7 wasn't the biggest choke ever, because others shot bad too? Why don't you do us a favor and throw on your Magic32 helmet already with all those excuses..

[played0ut]

I was being sarcastic :oldlol:

lol my bad

[dubeta]

Damn a lotta kobe stans getting ethered here, even the closet kobe stans are taking it

just admit it your boy's a choker

[dubeta]

6/24 > 2/5

you suck at math

[imdaman99]

I think so.. Tough question:

27/9/7 on 45% vs 29/8/4 on 41%

Who you takin'?
I'm taking the guy who didn't quit on his team. Series tied 2-2 at home and shoots 3-14?

6-24 > 3-14

Why no mention of turnovers?

[sammichoffate]

Milbuck's slaying all these losers like a gawd :pimp:

[andgar923]

True, everybody has bad shooting nights.

But this wasn't that.

This was CHUCKING.

Plain and simple.

A God awful performance.

But Kobe has plenty of those, so most people aren't surprised.

[JohnFreeman]

Was a terrible game for a "superstar"

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe's game proved why boxscore stats are highly overrated. He did what he had to do to win the game against one of the greatest defenses of all time. He scored 10 points in the 4th, including the go ahead points that LA needed to get over the hump.

Truly one of the best 'ugly' games of all time that only a player of Kobe's caliber could win.

[played0ut]

True, everybody has bad shooting nights.

But this wasn't that.

This was CHUCKING.

.

But what would you do if everyone else on your test is shooting like shit too? You give it to the best scorer EVEN if he's shooting like shit also.


Though he should've passed to Fisher more lol

[dubeta]

lets be honest kobe had a panic attack

saw his FMVP was at stake and didnt want to be sidekickBe again

was willing to sabotage his team just to guarantee FMVP

Can you imagine how it would look for his legacy if he ran Shaq outta town, just to be relegated again as a sidekick to an inferior Gasol?

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe's game proved why boxscore stats are highly overrated. He did what he had to do to win the game against one of the greatest defenses of all time. He scored 10 points in the 4th, including the go ahead points that LA needed to get over the hump.

Truly one of the best 'ugly' games of all time that only a player of Kobe's caliber could win.

Is there honestly nothing Kobe deserves to be criticized for? You give him a pass for the '04 Finals as well?

[SouBeachTalents]

lets be honest kobe had a panic attack

saw his FMVP was at stake and didnt want to be sidekickBe again

was willing to sabotage his team just to guarantee FMVP

Can you imagine how it would look for his legacy if he ran Shaq outta town, just to be relegated again as a sidekick to an inferior Gasol?

THIS was a panic attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3kKxtSQa-4

[stalkerforlife]

Is there honestly nothing Kobe deserves to be criticized for? You give him a pass for the '04 Finals as well?

He did go through a rape trial, but I can ignore that if you like. I mean, his freedom was in danger of being taken and all.

[stalkerforlife]

THIS was a panic attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3kKxtSQa-4

:roll:

[Droid101]

Can you imagine how it would look for his legacy if he ran Shaq outta town, just to be relegated again as a sidekick to an inferior Gasol?
http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/956/9565956/2590618-mvmhbo.jpg.gif

[Dragic4Life]

Can you imagine how it would look for his legacy if he ran Shaq outta town, just to be relegated again as a sidekick to an inferior Gasol?
No need to imagine, already happened.

Right now his "legacy" is a top 13 player of all time.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

He was bad but he wasn't that bad...it's really overblown..better players than him have had worse finals games..

[Dragic4Life]

He was bad but he wasn't that bad...it's really overblown..better players than him have had worse finals games..
Subtle...

[AirFederer]

My perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YP6ydCCKYU
My God that's bad! Try running around a screen or something Kobster!

[L.A. Jazz]

Kobe wanted this ring and the victory over Boston so bad, he forced bad shot after bad shot trying to do as much as possible. Fish calmed him down at halftime, Kobe played more within the team and they won. Kobe should be critisised for this. no excuse for being as hyped and out of sync in your 6th NBA final. they almost lost because he played so bad in the first half.

BUT the Lakers won. What's the Celtics excuse? PP shot 5/15, Ray even worse 3/14 with 4 turnovers and KG only had 3 (THREE) rebounds!

I am not trying to defend Kobe here, he played like shit in the first half, but the whole game was awful. one of the worst playoff games i have seen. no energy left in this old teams, no lift, no speed, just grinding and forcing bad shots. rewatch it (or better dont) and compare it to last years Spurs team ball, it's not the same sport.

[dubeta]

No need to imagine, already happened.

Right now his "legacy" is a top 13 player of all time.

obviously us true hoops fans all know that Gasol was supposed to be FMVP, but if Gasol "officially" was FMVP not even kobe stans could protect him

[Dragic4Life]

obviously us true hoops fans all know that Gasol was supposed to be FMVP, but if Gasol "officially" was FMVP not even kobe stans could protect him
Well I know this is overused, but it's pretty apt:

http://i.imgur.com/5ZfbTFf.jpg

[eliteballer]

He was playing on one knee, that's all the perspective you need.

[Dragic4Life]

He was playing on one knee, that's all the perspective you need.
I see 2 knees in the video.:confusedshrug:

[riseagainst]

lets be honest kobe had a panic attack

saw his FMVP was at stake and didnt want to be sidekickBe again

was willing to sabotage his team just to guarantee FMVP

Can you imagine how it would look for his legacy if he ran Shaq outta town, just to be relegated again as a sidekick to an inferior Gasol?

you posted this like half a dozen times in this thread.
:biggums:

[Inferno]

Well I know this is overused, but it's pretty apt:

http://i.imgur.com/5ZfbTFf.jpg

What are the bottom three awards?

[Dragic4Life]

What are the bottom three awards?
All-Star MVP.

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe really put All-Star MVP's to his collection so the MVP's don't look as shabby? :lol

[Nastradamus]

Nobody could get a shot off on that team that night. LA's bigs always had trouble with Boston's frontcourt physicality and Fisher/Artest weren't shot creators. They all stood around and waited for Kobe to do something, so he fired away.

[Wally450]

6/24 > 2/5

Where's that Post the Dumbest Things You've Heard on ISH Thread?

This has got to go in there.

[ArbitraryWater]

Where's that Post the Dumbest Things You've Heard on ISH Thread?

This has got to go in there.

And he made the thread too :oldlol:

[Knoe Itawl]

Here's all you need to know about this. Imagine these Kobetards if Lebron had the EXACT SAME GAME.

Ask yourself if you believe they would accept the SAME ARGUMENTS for Lebron. We all know that if you say yes, you're a liar.

And that gives you your answer.

[HOoopCityJones]

Here's all you need to know about this. Imagine these Kobetards if Lebron had the EXACT SAME GAME.

Ask yourself if you believe they would accept the SAME ARGUMENTS for Lebron. We all know that if you say yes, you're a liar.

And that gives you your answer.

I'll take 6-24 from Kobe all day rather than watch the supposed GOAT score 4 pts or less in the 4th of four games straight.

What you bitches don't get is Lebron choked away an entire SERIES.

This was one bad game by Kobe in the Finals, and they still won.


Go cry ho ******.

[JT123]

Here's all you need to know about this. Imagine these Kobetards if Lebron had the EXACT SAME GAME.

Ask yourself if you believe they would accept the SAME ARGUMENTS for Lebron. We all know that if you say yes, you're a liar.

And that gives you your answer.
The excuses that people make for Kobe are down right comical. "His teammates played like shit so it's okay that he did as well." :rolleyes:
I also love how whenever Lebron hits a clutch shot it doesn't count because "he was wide open, the defense sagged off," then when Kobe misses a clutch shot it proves that he has "guts, and killer instinct!" :hammerhead:

[JT123]

I'll take 6-24 from Kobe all day rather than watch the supposed GOAT score 4 pts or less in the 4th of four games straight.

What you bitches don't get is Lebron choked away an entire SERIES.

This was one bad game by Kobe in the Finals, and they still won.


Go cry ho ******.
He shot 40 percent for the series dude. That is more than one bad game. :no:

[stalkerforlife]

I'll take 6-24 from Kobe all day rather than watch the supposed GOAT score 4 pts or less in the 4th of four games straight.

What you bitches don't get is Lebron choked away an entire SERIES.

This was one bad game by Kobe in the Finals, and they still won.


Go cry ho ******.

Yep.

And it actually wasn't even that bad of a game, just a bad shooting night. Kobe was locked in defensively, grabbed a ton of boards, and made timely shots in the 4th when it really mattered.

[HOoopCityJones]

He shot 40 percent for the series dude. That is more than one bad game. :no:

Kobe shooting 40% against the Top defense in the league and still managing to pull out a win? Sounds like Mamba :cheers:

[Knoe Itawl]

I'll take 6-24 from Kobe all day rather than watch the supposed GOAT score 4 pts or less in the 4th of four games straight.

What you bitches don't get is Lebron choked away an entire SERIES.

This was one bad game by Kobe in the Finals, and they still won.


Go cry ho ******.

And like the typical idiot Kobetard, you didn't even address what I wrote. None of what you typed has anything to do with my post. But then, you're just another dime a dozen ISH Kobetard troll, so I wouldn't expect you to write anything coherent or worthwhile. Ho.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

LeBron's game 5 (2011 finals) where he scored just 8 points and had only 4 points in the 4th quarter is up there. The fact LeBron was THE reason Miami lost, you would have to say that its worse than Kobe's game 7.

[HOoopCityJones]

And like the typical idiot Kobetard, you didn't even address what I wrote. None of what you typed has anything to do with my post. But then, you're just another dime a dozen ISH Kobetard troll, so I wouldn't expect you to write anything coherent or worthwhile. Ho.

All that matters is they won the game.

Miss me with all of that other shit you barfing outta your mouth piece. It's irrelevant.

You can pull bad Finals performances from any of the Top 10 players of all time you dumb ****.

[SouBeachTalents]

LeBron's game 5 (2011 finals) where he scored just 8 points and had only 4 points in the 4th quarter is up there. The fact LeBron was THE reason Miami lost, you would have to say that its worse than Kobe's game 7.

That was Game 4, and he actually went scoreless in the 4th quarter that game

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

LeBron's game 5 (2011 finals) where he scored just 8 points and had only 4 points in the 4th quarter is up there. The fact LeBron was THE reason Miami lost, you would have to say that its worse than Kobe's game 7.

Wanted to correct myself. In game 4*, LeBron had 0 points in the 4th quarter. 8 total.

I'd say LeBron's performance was worse than any of Kobe's. For sure.


That was Game 4, and he actually went scoreless in the 4th quarter that game

Good looking out :cheers:

[Hey Yo]

Yep.

And it actually wasn't even that bad of a game, just a bad shooting night. Kobe was locked in defensively, grabbed a ton of boards, and made timely shots in the 4th when it really mattered.
He played over 11mins in the 4th and was 1 for 4 from the field. 8 of his points were from the line.

[stalkerforlife]

He played over 11mins in the 4th and was 1 for 2 from the field. 8 of his points were from the line.

Like I said, he made timely shots. You have to actually shoot free throws.

[Hey Yo]

I was wrong....he went 1-4 from the field in the 4th.

[Hey Yo]

Like I said, he made timely shots. You have to actually shoot free throws.
Big difference between a shot and a FTA

[stalkerforlife]

Just as he had during the season, he met obstacles in Game 7 but made adjustments just in time. Bryant's 15 rebounds significantly contributed to the Lakers' 53-40 advantage on the glass and continued a story line in which the team that got the most rebounds in this series won the game. He displayed trust in Artest by passing him the ball for his late-game three-pointer. And he admitted his faulty game afterward and thanked his teammates for bailing him out.

"He also stuck with it and played excellent down the stretch," Gasol said. He made huge free throws, made huge buckets and that's why he's the MVP and probably the best player in the world."

[stalkerforlife]

Big difference between a shot and a FTA

:biggums:

10 points in the 4th is 10 points in the 4th, no matter how much you hate Kobe.

Against an all time great defense, too.

[Hey Yo]

Just as he had during the season, he met obstacles in Game 7 but made adjustments just in time. Bryant's 15 rebounds significantly contributed to the Lakers' 53-40 advantage on the glass and continued a story line in which the team that got the most rebounds in this series won the game. He displayed trust in Artest by passing him the ball for his late-game three-pointer. And he admitted his faulty game afterward and thanked his teammates for bailing him out.

"He also stuck with it and played excellent down the stretch," Gasol said. He made huge free throws, made huge buckets and that's why he's the MVP and probably the best player in the world."
At least Kobe admits that he was bailed out by his teammates.

[Hey Yo]

:biggums:

10 points in the 4th is 10 points in the 4th, no matter how much you hate Kobe.

Against an all time great defense, too.
1-4 in the 4th.

In case you didn't know, defense isn't allowed to played against the player shooting free throws. That's why it's called a free throw.

[stalkerforlife]

1-4 in the 4th.

I case you didn't know, defense isn't allowed to played against the player shooting free throws. That's why it's called a free throw.

:biggums:

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe living rent free in Hey Yo's asshole.

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe goes 1-4 in the 4th Q of Game 7 = But he stepped it up in the 4th and got the W!!! (I even heard guys like Milbuck say this)... Please

[Hey Yo]

Kobe living rent free in Hey Yo's asshole.
That's what Kobe was doing to that chick in Colorado, until he had to pay her off.

[MastaKilla]

Kobe goes 1-4 in the 4th Q of Game 7 = But he stepped it up in the 4th and got the W!!! (I even heard guys like Milbuck say this)... Please

He had more points in the 4th quarter in this game than Lebron did in all of the 4th quarters of the 2011 finals combined.

[ArbitraryWater]

He had more points in the 4th quarter in this game than Lebron did in all of the 4th quarters of the 2011 finals combined.

Lie. LeBron alone with G1 and G6 has more 4Q Points

[SouBeachTalents]

He had more points in the 4th quarter in this game than Lebron did in all of the 4th quarters of the 2011 finals combined.

No, but he did have more than LeBron scored in Games 2-5

[LakersFan626]

Quit with the logic, Swish. The fact is, Kobe could've contributed more to the win with a monstrous 8 point performance, but he didn't. He settled for trying hard despite having a bad night. He could've easily quit like he should have, but the dumb bastard kept going for it.

:applause:

That and signing a max contract for one year, meaning that he could opt out for less each season until he has enough superstars to have him win easily.

Really, Kobe getting to the line AND rebounding in the 4th IS stepping up despite 6-24, while LeBron having a triple double in 2010 game 6 against Boston while shooting 8-21, having no impact, and committing NINE turnovers isn't. Kobe's 6-24 was WAY more impactful than that game, as well as Bron's games 4 and 5 in that series too and his entire series against Dallas outside of game 1.

[AnaheimLakers24]

goat rebound performance

[Stringer Bell]

goat rebound performance

Kobe got 15 rebounds out of the Lakers 53.

In game 7 of the 88' Finals, James Worthy got 16 rebounds out of the Lakers 41 rebounds. This is while also carrying the offensive load with 36 points and 10 assists.