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rule1223
08-07-2014, 09:41 AM
smh at the regret the cavs are going to have in a few years when theyre still ringless, while wiggins battles durant for the nba championship

LoneyROY7
08-07-2014, 09:42 AM
It's gonna be pretty funny looking back on it.

russwest0
08-07-2014, 09:42 AM
Let the kid play before calling him Kobe.

And did you really expect LeBron to do anything other than ship him out for an all star?

3peated
08-07-2014, 09:43 AM
Let the kid play before calling him Kobe.

And did you really expect LeBron to do anything other than ship him out for an all star?


retard.


imagine if jordan shipped out pippen for an all star

russwest0
08-07-2014, 09:45 AM
retard.


imagine if jordan shipped out pippen for an all star

Well Jordan isn't LeBron :confusedshrug:

If Jordan said something like "I'm excited about growing with the young guys" then you better believe he meant it. Jordan wanted to win as bad as anybody but not via stacking the deck as much as possible.

Different guys, different ambitions, different results in the finals, ya know?

Lebron23
08-07-2014, 09:45 AM
Love is a better player than Divac. And stop calling Wiggins as a top 12 player of all time until he plays a single game in the NBA. Minny also didn't have Prime Shaq in their roster.

HomieWeMajor
08-07-2014, 09:47 AM
I like this trade for Wiggins. He goes to a team where he can statpad for the first 4-5 years of his career to boost his GOAT credentials. Then after that he can focus on making the playoffs and winning titles.

Purch
08-07-2014, 09:49 AM
Wiggins won't even be remembered as the best player in his draft class , once Jabari Parker gets put on a diet

Warfan
08-07-2014, 09:50 AM
So is Pekovic gonna carry Wiggins to 3 titles?

JohnFreeman
08-07-2014, 09:50 AM
Love is better than Divac..

JohnnySic
08-07-2014, 09:51 AM
No way Wiggins stays in Minnesota for many years. As soon as he can he's headed for warmer climes.

edrick
08-07-2014, 09:52 AM
Comparing that trash to Love? :roll:

PerfectCell
08-07-2014, 09:53 AM
Worst case scenario for Wiggins(barring injury) is he has a slightly better career than Vince Carter statwise and might even win a ring along the way. However if he doesn't fall into the right system at the right time his ceiling isn't going to be much better than that.

Lebron23
08-07-2014, 09:54 AM
So is Pekovic gonna carry Wiggins to 3 titles?


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Roundball_Rock
08-07-2014, 09:55 AM
If Jordan said something like "I'm excited about growing with the young guys" then you better believe he meant it. Jordan wanted to win as bad as anybody but not via stacking the deck as much as possible.


Jordan also preferred to have an established superstar over a younger star. It was an implicit condition of his return that Pippen not be traded for a younger star (i.e. Shawn Kemp) and MJ always opposed efforts to trade Pippen when MJ was a Bull. Jordan threatened to retire if Pippen and Jackson were not retained; when they left he carried out his threat, despite being the reigning MVP. The real difference is obvious: Jordan was working to preserve a stacked team while LeBron has been working (if you assume he is playing GM) to create a stacked team.

russwest0
08-07-2014, 09:56 AM
Jordan also preferred to have an established superstar over a younger star. It was an implicit condition of his return that Pippen not be traded for a younger star (i.e. Shawn Kemp) and MJ always opposed efforts to trade Pippen. Jordan threatened to retire if Pippen and Jackson were not retained; when they left he carried out his threat, despite being the reigning MVP. The real difference is obvious: Jordan was working to preserve a stacked team while LeBron has been working (if you assume he is playing GM) to create a stacked team.

Big difference.

Had LeBron fought with Miami over keeping Wade and Bosh as opposed to moving on from them for someone younger, no one would really be poking fun at him for it, ya know?

miles berg
08-07-2014, 09:59 AM
More like had back in 1984 the Bulls traded Jordan, Charles Oakley, & a 1st for Adrian Dantley.

Either way just a horrendous trade for the Cavs.

russwest0
08-07-2014, 10:00 AM
More like had back in 1984 the Bulls traded Jordan, Charles Oakley, & a 1st for Adrian Dantley.

Either way just a horrendous trade for the Cavs.

At least they got an agreement from Love to sign an extension in 2015.

Now if he HAS to honor that agreement, my guess would be no?

But yeah, you simply don't trade a player of Wiggins' caliber. Period.

Roundball_Rock
08-07-2014, 10:04 AM
Big difference.

Had LeBron fought with Miami over keeping Wade and Bosh as opposed to moving on from them for someone younger, no one would really be poking fun at him for it, ya know?

Wait. Do you really think that? It would have been added to complaints about "collusion." :oldlol: It is advantageous to have an experienced, proven superstar over a younger player. Otherwise why not go for the younger player who will be productive for longer? As MJ understood, there is no guarantee the younger star will ever reach the level of the established superstar (and this case is about a rookie who has never played, not a young all-star) and the younger player would cause the team to regress in the short-term, when it should be contending for championships. The only scenario where it works out better to have the younger player is a KAJ-Magic type scenario where Magic's rise conveniently coincided with KAJ aging. That could have happened with Wiggins and LeBron--but Wiggins is not a sure thing in terms of being a superstar. You don't gamble a chance on contending for the next few years on an unproven rookie when you can get an established elite player. Love also isn't ancient. He is 25 so he will be hitting his peak when LeBron is declining.

FLDFSU
08-07-2014, 10:06 AM
Big difference.

Had LeBron fought with Miami over keeping Wade and Bosh as opposed to moving on from them for someone younger, no one would really be poking fun at him for it, ya know?

Huh? You said that Miami was stacked. Why would Lebron want to leave a stacked team for Cleveland-- of all places?

You act like leaving the "historically" stacked Heat team for Cleveland the obvious/easy choice.

russwest0
08-07-2014, 10:06 AM
Wait. Do you really think that? It would have been added to complaints about "collusion."

Colluding is what he did in Miami, and that had already happened in that scenario. Now that in Miami they are aging and on the decline (much like MJ's second three-peat Bulls), he's decided to collude to a more stacked team.

FLDFSU
08-07-2014, 10:12 AM
Colluding is what he did in Miami, and that had already happened in that scenario. Now that in Miami they are aging and on the decline (much like MJ's second three-peat Bulls), he's decided to collude to a more stacked team.

But you JUST said (3 to 4 weeks ago) that Miami was histrocially stacked. Now you are saying that Miami "are aging and on the decline."

So when did Miami become aged and decline? The second Lebron made his announcement he was leaving for Cleveland?

If Lebron would have stayed in Miami, would the Heat still be aged and on the decline, or would they still be "the most stacked team of all time."

Roundball_Rock
08-07-2014, 10:14 AM
Colluding is what he did in Miami, and that had already happened in that scenario. Now that in Miami they are aging and on the decline (much like MJ's second three-peat Bulls), he's decided to collude to a more stacked team.

The Bulls were aging without declining significantly:

1996: 72 wins
1997: 69 wins
1998: 62 wins (67 win pace with Pippen)

Why wouldn't he want to preserve such a team--the best team in the league for 3 consecutive years? Miami is not comparable to the 1996-1998 Bulls. The Heat were a 54 win team last year.


Huh? You said that Miami was stacked. Why would Lebron want to leave a stacked team for Cleveland-- of all places?

You act like leaving the "historically" stacked Heat team for Cleveland the obvious/easy choice.

Great points. If Miami is as "stacked" as people said it was--as recently as a few weeks ago--why would LeBron leave an advantageous situation like that for a 33 win team? Yeah, the Cavs will be very good with Love but there was no guarantee that they would acquire him. The "safe" thing would be to stay put in Miami and hope they upgraded the roster, which they did with shoring up their bench and at PG. Riley is a proven GM who has built contenders thrice. Even if they lost in 2015 with LeBron, Riley could have had them back on top in 2016. Riley is certainly far more proven than the Cavs' GM and Cleveland also has a completely green coach.

If LeBron wanted to go to the team with the best shot at winning he could have went to Chicago, Houston, Dallas--all teams who had the money to make a run at him. Instead he chose the East's 10th place finisher.

stallionaire
08-07-2014, 10:14 AM
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