I predict that tha Cleveland Cheat wont make tha '15 finals.

[Real14]

There I said it:D . You damn right I said it:coleman:

[Dragic4Life]

the "cheat" pun doesn't work anymore you moron.:facepalm

[DaSeba5]

We're not the "Cheat" anymore? Cool.

[Jlamb47]

Love, Irving, and Lebron

Bosh, Wade, Allen and Lebron

Most blessed player ever

[navy]

So? First year roster and new Coach.

Dont you want Lebron to be 2/6 anyways?

[Real14]

We're not the "Cheat" anymore? Cool.
yes, you are back to tha heat now man:applause:

[Dragic4Life]

Love, Irving, and Lebron

Bosh, Wade, Allen and Lebron

Most blessed player ever
Prime Manu, prime Paker, prime Robinson, coach Pop. You were sayin'?

[Real14]

So? First year roster and new Coach.

Dont you want Lebron to be 2/6 anyways?
yes that would be quite exhilarating but him missing tha finals would be even sweeter.

[SouBeachTalents]

Love, Irving, and Lebron

Bosh, Wade, Allen and Lebron

Most blessed player ever

Jordan- Pippen & Rodman
Kareem- Magic & Worthy
Magic- Kareem & Worthy
Bird- McHale & Parish
Shaq- Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Celtics Big 4
Kobe- Shaq, Gasol, Nash, Howard for a season

Pretty much every great has played with other good players, I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that

[Real14]

Love, Irving, and Lebron

Bosh, Wade, Allen and Lebron

Most blessed player ever
yes and will never deserve a top 10 spot.

[Dragic4Life]

Jordan- Pippen & Rodman
Kareem- Magic & Worthy
Magic- Kareem & Worthy
Bird- McHale & Parish
Shaq- Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Celtics Big 4
Kobe- Shaq, Gasol, Nash, Howard for a season

Pretty much every great has played with other good players, I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that
You forgot Duncan.

[Real14]

the "cheat" pun doesn't work anymore you moron.:facepalm
yes it does bitch cuz Lebron iz still "CHEATING":coleman:

[Lebronxrings]

i bet op thinks the knicks will make the finals.

:facepalm

[imnew09]

Jordan- Pippen & Rodman
Kareem- Magic & Worthy
Magic- Kareem & Worthy
Bird- McHale & Parish
Shaq- Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Celtics Big 4
Kobe- Shaq, Gasol, Nash, missed half of the games Howard back injury, missed tons of gamesfor a season :bowdown:

Pretty much every great has played with other good players, I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that

Fixed

[BasedTom]

I haven't been watching much ESPN or other sports shows lately, but the general feeling I get is that the expectations are much lower. Maybe because of it being the Cavs, or it being the first year back or whatever, but it doesn't feel at all like the last few years where it seemed like he absolutely had to win the title every year or it would go down as another failure on his resume.

I'd laugh my ass off if somehow Kevin Love still couldn't make the playoffs this year (and I actually like his game unlike a lot of people on ISH)

[Real14]

i bet op thinks the knicks will make the finals.

:facepalm
said by LeBron groupie:coleman: Movin on...:rolleyes:

[jzek]

Jordan- Pippen & Rodman
Kareem- Magic & Worthy
Magic- Kareem & Worthy
Bird- McHale & Parish
Shaq- Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Celtics Big 4
Kobe- Shaq, Gasol, Nash, Howard for a season

Pretty much every great has played with other good players, I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that

Simple - more ppl hate LeBron than all those other greats you listed.

[navy]

Fixed
They were all expected to be healthy when the team formed. Which is the point.

[shrempf_on_rice]

Damn, Love is a 26 and 12 guy. He's no Shaq but the last time Kobe played with someone with those stats they won 3 titiles. Let's see how many Lebron and Love can win especially if they sign long term.

FYI: Bosh was a 23 and 10 guy in Toronto until he started playing with Lebron then his stats declined significantly.

[FLDFSU]

While the Cavs certainly got better with the Love deal, the Heat are still more talented and experience group than them.

ECF
1. Heat








2. Bulls
2. Cavs

[SouBeachTalents]

Damn, Love is a 26 and 12 guy. He's no Shaq but the last time Kobe played with someone with those stats they won 3 titiles. Let's see how many Lebron and Love can win especially if they sign long term.

FYI: Bosh was a 23 and 10 guy in Toronto until he started playing with Lebron then his stats declined significantly.

:facepalm This ****ing idiot just compared Bosh & Love to PRIME Shaq

[Beastmode88]

Jordan- Pippen & Rodman
Kareem- Magic & Worthy
Magic- Kareem & Worthy
Bird- McHale & Parish
Shaq- Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Celtics Big 4
Kobe- Shaq, Gasol, Nash, Howard for a season

Pretty much every great has played with other good players, I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that

Lmfao every lebron stans calls out MJ for doing nothing without Pippen. What a joke when it comes to bran stans and double standards.

[Real14]

Lebron- mo Williams (all star believe it or not), Boozer, Shaq, Ben Wallace, wade, bosh, allen, r.Lewis, Love, irving, waiters and strong role players who can shoot threes and form their own starting lineup in the NBA.
I REST MY DAMN CASE:coleman:

[Lebronxrings]

said by LeBron groupie:coleman: Movin on...:rolleyes:
so who makes it then in your opinion?

[SouBeachTalents]

Lmfao every lebron stans calls out MJ for doing nothing without Pippen. What a joke when it comes to bran stans and double standards.

I've never made a single post stating that. That just proves that even the GOAT needed good teammates to have playoff success

[TheMarkMadsen]

Jordan- Pippen & Rodman
Kareem- Magic & Worthy
Magic- Kareem & Worthy
Bird- McHale & Parish
Shaq- Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Celtics Big 4
Kobe- Shaq, Gasol, Nash, Howard for a season

Pretty much every great has played with other good players, I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that

Did you really put Nash next to Kobe?

They've played like 10 games together. All those other guys you listed played together for years. Dwight/Nash played less than 82 games with Kobe

[Real14]

I've never made a single post stating that. That just proves that even the GOAT needed good teammates to have playoff success
Pippen was no wade and rodman was no bosh:no:

[navy]

Did you really put Nash next to Kobe?

They've played like 10 games together. All those other guys you listed played together for years. Dwight/Nash played less than 82 games with Kobe
They were expected to be healthy when the season started. Remember Metta predicting 72 wins?

So things went south. You cant account for injuries or decline at the beginning of a season. Doesnt mean it wasnt the clear intention to form a sure fire contender. .

[Real14]

so who makes it then in your opinion?
people who are not biased against tha knicks.

[Real14]

They were expected to be healthy when the season started. Remember Metta predicting 72 wins?

So things went south. You cant account for injuries or decline at the beginning of a season. Doesnt mean it wasnt the clear intention to form a sure fire contender. .
but it didn't happen. Lebron with wade and bosh were healthy most of tha time. metta was getting old and nash was way past his prime.

[SouBeachTalents]

Pippen was no wade and rodman was no bosh:no:

Pippen & Wade are pretty close, especially when you factor in Wade started to decline after 2011. Rodman is definitely better than Bosh, Bosh is obviously the better scorer/offensive player, but I'd much rather have Rodman on my team than Bosh

[navy]

but it didn't happen. Lebron with wade and bosh were healthy most of tha time. metta was getting old and nash was way past his prime.
You never know what happens. Bosh tore an abdominal muscle and Wade never managed to stay 100%. Look at all the games he misses. Love and Kyrie could end up injured for all we know. They might become the new Nash and Dwight. You cant account for these things. :confusedshrug:

[Real14]

Pippen & Wade are pretty close, especially when you factor in Wade started to decline after 2011. Rodman is definitely better than Bosh, Bosh is obviously the better scorer/offensive player, but I'd much rather have Rodman on my team than Bosh
Im talking about when they first joined and wade was faking his injury in 2013. Wade in 2012 was not bad either:facepalm Bosh was a franchise leader and an Olympic gold medal winner, Rodman never was.

[russwest0]

Cheatland :facepalm

[Real14]

Cheatland :facepalm
yup that can be their alternate name:facepalm

[Real14]

You never know what happens. Bosh tore an abdominal muscle and Wade never managed to stay 100%. Look at all the games he misses. Love and Kyrie could end up injured for all we know. They might become the new Nash and Dwight. You cant account for these things. :confusedshrug:
nash was way past his prime man:facepalm

[navy]

nash was way past his prime man:facepalm
He averaged 11 assist the year before. Hence why the Lakers thought they were going to win 70 games....

[Real14]

He averaged 11 assist the year before. Hence why the Lakers thought they were going to win 70 games....
Nash still wasn't prime nash tho man.

[navy]

Nash still wasn't prime nash tho man.
I know. The Lakers thought they had gotten a steal. :oldlol:

[Real14]

I know. They Lakers thought they had gotten a steal. :oldlol:
I mean nash was still a good pg but I cant believe people thought he was gonna produce like tha old nash:facepalm

[catquickspider]

Jordan- Pippen & Rodman
Kareem- Magic & Worthy
Magic- Kareem & Worthy
Bird- McHale & Parish
Shaq- Penny, Kobe, Wade, Nash, Celtics Big 4
Kobe- Shaq, Gasol, Nash, Howard for a season

Pretty much every great has played with other good players, I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that

you can't count a season in which nash barely plays, howard comes back from back surgery, and kobe tears his achilles :facepalm

[Real14]

you can't count a season in which nash barely plays, howard comes back from back surgery, and kobe tears his achilles :facepalm
exactly:facepalm