Obama authorizes airstrikes in Iraq [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Godzuki

08-07-2014, 10:05 PM

about fukking time. they are such idiots waiting so long, and the only thing waiting accomplished was ISIS killing a lot more innocents ruthlessly, and taking over more of Iraq....they could've done this more than a month ago and saved a lot more lives.

I'm a Obama supporter but i have no idea WTF he is doing. Him and the EU leaders are such a joke to me these days, so behind the 8ball, while everyone is running circles around them.

zoom17

08-07-2014, 10:09 PM

I still don't understand how a shia majority country like Iraq are getting there ass kicked by a ISIS.

JohnFreeman

08-07-2014, 10:12 PM

I still don't understand how a shia majority country like Iraq are getting there ass kicked by a ISIS.
Iraqi Army pretty much just ran when they heard ISIS were coming.

Patrick Chewing

08-07-2014, 10:25 PM

Godzuki

08-07-2014, 10:28 PM

Liberals' heads are probably exploding right now.

What to do? What to do? Obama's your homeboy, but he's bombing people now. You're so anti-war and military spending, but Obama's your homeboy.

Good luck with all of that you clowns.

u do realize Bush caused this whole thing with Iraq at least? :oldlol:

anyways who else is going to do anything but 'evil, only care about ourselves America'? just like who is going to try to do anything between the shit-fest that is Israel/Palestine? 'evil only care about ourselves America' thats who!!

we're so evil, out for only ourselves, therefore we must be going after their resources AGAIN!!! right conspiracy foreigners? :oldlol:

KevinNYC

08-07-2014, 10:29 PM

I still don't understand how a shia majority country like Iraq are getting there ass kicked by a ISIS.
Iraqi Army pretty much just ran when they heard ISIS were coming.
Iraqi Army has been exposed as being incredibly corrupt and sectarian.
There was a report that the Iraqi soldiers in Anbar didn't have water.

Maliki basically set up the army as

A. a Shiite force
B a force designed to keep Maliki in power, i.e. protect Baghdad.

kentatm

08-07-2014, 10:30 PM

These Airstrikes are long overdue US setback and watched as Christians, shias, and others where getting massacred by Islamist radicals.

:rolleyes:

so now we are the genocide police?

when are going into the Congo?

KevinNYC

08-07-2014, 10:33 PM

Anyway, can anyone find a link saying it's US forces doing the bombing, because the later reports say it was Turkish forces.

Godzuki

08-07-2014, 10:34 PM

:rolleyes:

so now we are the genocide police?

when are going into the Congo?

oh cmon everyone knows the Congo is a 3rd world shit-hole...not to mention ebola is there.

obviously more civilized countries come first, especially ones we've made a mess in because of a retard Prez we once had.

we did send special forces after Boko Haram at least :pimp:

JohnFreeman

08-07-2014, 10:35 PM

Anyway, can anyone find a link saying it's US forces doing the bombing, because the later reports say it was Turkish forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua2jpuVJEiM&list=UUupvZG-5ko_eiXAupbDfxWw

zoom17

08-07-2014, 10:40 PM

Anyway, can anyone find a link saying it's US forces doing the bombing, because the later reports say it was Turkish forces.

There is many links online.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/world/iraq-options/

KevinNYC

08-07-2014, 11:00 PM

OK. So authorizes airstrikes is correct.

However, it doesn't seem we are trying to roll back ISIS and no bombing is occurring yet

This is about future airstrikes. It's a warning to ISIS if they try to move on Ibril where there are US Personnel. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/islamic-state-militants-seize-christian-town-in-northern-iraq-thousands-flee/2014/08/07/942a553a-1e2b-11e4-ab7b-696c295ddfd1_story.html)

President Obama authorized possible airstrikes against Sunni Muslim extremists who punctured Kurdish defenses in a powerful offensive in northern Iraq.

Obama, in a late-night statement delivered at the White House, said that strikes would be launched against extremist convoys “should they move toward” the Kurdish capital of Irbil. “We intend to take action if they threaten our facilities anywhere in Iraq . . . including Irbil and Baghdad,” he said.

KevinNYC

08-07-2014, 11:08 PM

There seem to have been a lot of reports earlier that say bombings have started but the Pentagon has been pushing back on it.

I just clicked a NY Times headline in Google News from 5 hours ago, the headline was Airstrikes Are Underway in Iraq.

Now if you go to the story, the headline is changed

Obama Allows Limited Airstrikes on ISIS (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/world/middleeast/obama-weighs-military-strikes-to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html)

They literally updated the story a few minutes ago.

However, they are reports of Turkey actually dropping bombs. Perhaps that's a cover story since Turkey has F-16 too.

NumberSix

08-07-2014, 11:13 PM

Wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth.

zoom17

08-07-2014, 11:15 PM

Wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth.

:applause:

KevinNYC

08-07-2014, 11:19 PM

Politico noted that the NY Times changed their headline and rewrote their story several times today (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/08/pentagon-iraq-bombing-reports-completely-false-193608.html) after the Pentagon denied it.

The Pentagon on Thursday disputed reports from The New York Times and McClatchy stating that, according to Kurdish officials, American military forces had bombed at least two targets in northern Iraq.

"Press reports that US has conducted airstrikes in Iraq completely false. No such action taken," Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby tweeted late Thursday afternoon, shortly after the Times published its report.

The Times report stated that "word of the bombings, reported on Kurdish television from the city of Erbil, came as President Obama was preparing to make a statement in Washington."

The McClatchy report stated that "Kurdish television reported that the bombers were American," but added that there "was no confirmation from U.S. officials in Washington."

UPDATE (6:00 p.m.): The Times changed its headline from "American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq" to "Militants in Iraq Hit by Strikes, Kurds Say." The copy, which suggests that the bombing was down by American forces, remained the same.

UPDATE (6:23 p.m.): The Times again changes its headline, this time to "Airstrikes on ISIS Militants Have Begun, Kurds and Iraqis Say," and changed the body of the text.

So that's at least three headlines on the story

No.45

08-07-2014, 11:25 PM

PejaNowitzki

08-07-2014, 11:28 PM

To fight off ISIS this was long overdue what took so long:biggums:

I did not like the thought of military action in Iraq, I thought that the U.S. should have stayed out completely but after seeing what ISIS has been doing, the utterly unspeakable atrocities they've been committing, beheading little kids, mass murder and torture, pure genocide against anyone that isn't an ass backwards 7th century fundamentalist nutjob, things that would make a Nazi blush makes me say **** these people.

If Obama wants to bomb them into oblivion, he's got my support.

nathanjizzle

08-07-2014, 11:36 PM

I personally would pay An extra 500 dollars in tax just to go towards missles That will kill these extremists

senelcoolidge

08-07-2014, 11:36 PM

Obama needs to get some balls..what a freaking weak President he is. I'm glad he's going to help these people stuck on that mountain. You can't allow a group of people to be eradicated..men, women, and children. When an American President is weak..the bad guys go buck wild. That's what is happening now with the Middle East, Russia, China, etc.

Patrick Chewing

08-07-2014, 11:36 PM

If Obama wants to bomb them into oblivion, he's got my support.

War monger! You probably hate women too. Racist prick!

GimmeThat

08-07-2014, 11:49 PM

should we tell the allies that if they don't fight these ISIS group off, they are next to be gone?

Iraq is actually surrounded mostly by land instead of being near the ocean.

talk about some strategical advantages if we were just able to convince to others that these ISIS are so darn extreme and deadly.

KevinNYC

08-07-2014, 11:51 PM

After reading some stories and comments about this, it seems we are going to protect the Kurds and Yazidi's under threat, but we will not intervene fully until Maliki is replaced and there is a new government. Check out what Hagel says below. Gen Petraeus last month said we shouldn't intervene in a way that makes us the "Shia Air Force."

[QUOTE]The official stressed that Obama

dunksby

08-08-2014, 03:18 AM

Has he signed off on any drone strikes? Obama loves those. :oldlol:

That_Admiral

08-08-2014, 03:40 AM

USA took far too long to take affirmative action. Hopefully they are able to do something though

MadeFromDust

08-08-2014, 04:43 AM

So Obomma the hypocrite AND warmonger :rolleyes:

russwest0

08-08-2014, 05:10 AM

War monger! You probably hate women too. Racist prick!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

The Liberal media is so damn hypocritical

step_back

08-08-2014, 05:27 AM

I hope the Americans kill the British people that left England to go and fight for ISIS. Those treacherous pigs deserve it.

RidonKs

08-08-2014, 07:04 AM

there's are reasons isis has been so successful in taking city after city. anybody advocating military force should be seriously interested in understanding those reasons.

Godzuki

08-08-2014, 07:52 AM

Has he signed off on any drone strikes? Obama loves those. :oldlol:

whats wrong with drone strikes? they're the greatest weapon we've created in recent memory.

i mean i get they get a bad rap for killing innocents but that is human error.

Godzuki

08-08-2014, 07:55 AM

there's are reasons isis has been so successful in taking city after city. anybody advocating military force should be seriously interested in understanding those reasons.

pretty sure beheading anyone who isn't fundamentalist muslim everywhere they go, and committing some of the worst atrocities the world has ever seen, trumps any muslim sect issues.

Trollsmasher

08-08-2014, 08:05 AM

He'll probably bombard the moderate Iraqis. Dude wants a high position in the Great Caliphate

LJJ

08-08-2014, 08:31 AM

Are they gonna bomb the rebels in Syria too?

Or is this essentially the US telling IS to get back to terrorizing the Syrian people and government, rather than their allies in Iraq.

Godzuki

08-08-2014, 08:35 AM

Are they gonna bomb the rebels in Syria too?

Or is this essentially the US telling IS to get back to terrorizing the Syrian people and government, rather than their allies in Iraq.

probably because Assad controls Syria....

why does everyone keep trying to find fault in the US when we're THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT HELPS MF'ERS these days :facepalm

JohnFreeman

08-08-2014, 09:14 AM

probably because Assad controls Syria....

why does everyone keep trying to find fault in the US when we're THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT HELPS MF'ERS these days :facepalm
To be fair, America pretty much caused this uprising in Iraq..

Godzuki

08-08-2014, 10:27 AM

To be fair, America pretty much caused this uprising in Iraq..

well the picture was still pretty ugly before we stepped in too, so take that into account...same in Syria where it wasn't really us more than the EU i think where we helped.

but its rather ridiculous to me we're the main ones trying to broker peace between Israel/Palestine...and yet we're the "warmongers only out for ourselves taking everyones resources(which nobody can prove we have at all lol but so many stupid mf'ers keep saying this shit).....

we're the ones everyone is looking to to stop ISIS....WTF is everyone else when these atrocities are happening?

all 1/2 the people here do is try to find fault with us in everything, and never own up to good we try to do, which is most of the time, too bad things don't always work out in hindsight. Things rarely go as perfectly as someone intends in life in general but there are always critics at every corner.

BlkMambaGOAT

08-08-2014, 10:33 AM

I did not like the thought of military action in Iraq, I thought that the U.S. should have stayed out completely but after seeing what ISIS has been doing, the utterly unspeakable atrocities they've been committing, beheading little kids, mass murder and torture, pure genocide against anyone that isn't an ass backwards 7th century fundamentalist nutjob, things that would make a Nazi blush makes me say **** these people.

If Obama wants to bomb them into oblivion, he's got my support.
But the US can't bomb ISIS effectively w/o killing a lot of innocents with them.

step_back

08-08-2014, 10:37 AM

well the picture was still pretty ugly before we stepped in too, so take that into account...same in Syria where it wasn't really us more than the EU i think where we helped.

but its rather ridiculous to me we're the main ones trying to broker peace between Israel/Palestine...and yet we're the "warmongers only out for ourselves taking everyones resources(which nobody can prove we have at all lol but so many stupid mf'ers keep saying this shit).....

we're the ones everyone is looking to to stop ISIS....WTF is everyone else when these atrocities are happening?

all 1/2 the people here do is try to find fault with us in everything, and never own up to good we try to do, which is most of the time, too bad things don't always work out in hindsight. Things rarely go as perfectly as someone intends in life in general but there are always critics at every corner.

Any country that sells weapons get's accused of being a war monger. The U.S happens to be very good at making weapons and other countries want to buy those weapons. It's just business.

Part of the reason why people are looking at the U.S to neutralize ISIS is because 11 years ago that is the country the U.S decided to invade. When you take down a government and introduce a new one you have to expect responsibility if things are back firing which is what's happening.

The U.S will break the backbone of ISIS. I imagine the Kurds, Iraqi Army and the Shiites will clear out the rest.

Godzuki

08-08-2014, 10:51 AM

Any country that sells weapons get's accused of being a war monger. The U.S happens to be very good at making weapons and other countries want to buy those weapons. It's just business.

Part of the reason why people are looking at the U.S to neutralize ISIS is because 11 years ago that is the country the U.S decided to invade. When you take down a government and introduce a new one you have to expect responsibility if things are back firing which is what's happening.

The U.S will break the backbone of ISIS. I imagine the Kurds, Iraqi Army and the Shiites will clear out the rest.

nah it doesn't matter what it is...whether we have any fault in the situation or not....the world looks to the U.S. as their savior/protector especially when atrocities occur. It can be the Boko Haram killings in Nigeria where the people will be asking for America to step in and help...it can be Iraq when Sadaam and his sons were running rampant and they were asking for the US's help....it can be Israel/Palestine which both sides say only the U.S. is able to broker peace....its every entire bad situation in the world where people look to the U.S. around the world to help them.

We're obviously the richest country in the world by a large margin, with the most powerful military by a large margin, and we tend to help natural disasters/catastrophes around the world the most of any country, which i think is the main reason we're seen as the worlds helper/savior. very little of that is based on our previous involvements or faults in things....

while all of the internet nerds want to constantly demonize us.

step_back

08-08-2014, 11:06 AM

nah it doesn't matter what it is...whether we have any fault in the situation or not....the world looks to the U.S. as their savior/protector especially when atrocities occur. It can be the Boko Haram killings in Nigeria where the people will be asking for America to step in and help...it can be Iraq when Sadaam and his sons were running rampant and they were asking for the US's help....it can be Israel/Palestine which both sides say only the U.S. is able to broker peace....its every entire bad situation in the world where people look to the U.S. around the world to help them.

We're obviously the richest country in the world by a large margin, with the most powerful military by a large margin, and we tend to help natural disasters/catastrophes around the world the most of any country, which i think is the main reason we're seen as the worlds helper/savior. very little of that is based on our previous involvements or faults in things....

while all of the internet nerds want to constantly demonize us.

None of that changes what I said. You can't go into a country and remove the government, put in a new one and when things start to go bad shortly after you say. "The World expects us to sort out other people's problems" They're your problems too.

I'm not saying the U.S doesn't help out where it can with aid etc ( For the record you're not the only country that does it) but none of that is even relevant. ISIS is a product of the war. Whether you like it or not the U.S has to act. Iraq is still very much in an after care relationship with the U.S.

Godzuki

08-08-2014, 11:14 AM

None of that changes what I said. You can't go into a country and remove the government, put in a new one and when things start to go bad shortly after you say. "The World expects us to sort out other people's problems" They're your problems too.

I'm not saying the U.S doesn't help out where it can with aid etc ( For the record you're not the only country that does it) but none of that is even relevant. ISIS is a product of the war. Whether you like it or not the U.S has to act. Iraq is still very much in an after care relationship with the U.S.

no we're not the only country, we just happen to give/help the most of any country...

but you can't argue people are asking US for help all around the world, even in situations we never had any involvement in. You can't keep sticking on one point in one or two situations then keep pretending you're right that we are only expected to get involved because we started messes there. That is just not true at all. We're involved in so much around the world, and are looked to get involved, because we're seen today as a leader of the world powers. I mean we're involved with NKorea protecting the South, we're involved with the azn nations and their island disputes trying to maintain peace, we're always trying to keep some type of peace throughout so many regions, and we're generally front and center in doing so.

I emphasize the Iraqi people were asking for our help before we ever went in...against Sadaam.

but again people all around the world ask/expect us to help them when there are atrocities occurring.

I'm not against helping against ISIS btw, so i'm not arguing that, my argument is about every internet conspiracy theorist and 1/2 the nerds here always talking shit about us that has zero validity or truth behind it. We're always the bad guys only out for ourselves in their stupid minds....and yet current events disproves that in sooo many situations.

JohnFreeman

08-08-2014, 11:18 AM

USA practically put Saddam Hussein in power and armed him..

step_back

08-08-2014, 11:25 AM

no we're not the only country, we just happen to give/help the most of any country...

but you can't argue people are asking US for help all around the world, even in situations we never had any involvement in. You can't keep sticking on one point in one or two situations then keep pretending you're right that we are only expected to get involved because we started messes there. That is just not true at all. We're involved in so much around the world, and are looked to get involved, because we're seen today as a leader of the world powers. I mean we're involved with NKorea protecting the South, we're involved with the azn nations and their island disputes trying to maintain peace, we're always trying to keep some type of peace throughout so many regions, and we're generally front and center in doing so.

I emphasize the Iraqi people were asking for our help before we ever went in...against Sadaam.

but again people all around the world ask/expect us to help them when there are atrocities occurring.

I'm not against helping against ISIS btw, so i'm not arguing that, my argument is about every internet conspiracy theorist and 1/2 the nerds here always talking shit about us that has zero validity or truth behind it. We're always the bad guys only out for ourselves in their stupid minds....and yet current events disproves that in sooo many situations.

I'm not arguing that anyway.

All developed countries get asked for help. You happen to be the richest. That's just the pecking order. The EU sends huge amounts of money to other countries too and plenty of countries provide aid but that's something entirely different to asking for help in the form of Military action. Most countries would rather not get involved.

The reason why I keep coming back to why the U.S needs to help Iraq is because that's exactly what the thread is about. I'm staying relevant to the thread.

Godzuki

08-08-2014, 11:25 AM

USA practically put Saddam Hussein in power and armed him..

i love the very obscure generalizations of what we did in hindsight.

give us the FULL story...in terms of the situation back then, what we intended to happen in our actions back then and why we did it, and how the outcome differed in what our intentions were. there is never a full and accurate detail of things with most of you who always blame us for everything, ever....

the other thing is we're all people who were alive in the last 80~ years or so, so blaming us for stuff past generations did, during entirely different times like cold war where the big thing was communism vs democracy, Russia vs US in nuclear WW3...etc. were VERY different times as well with reasons for subterfuge.

thats why people who can't argue in current events are rather clueless IMO. since that i would call OUR responsibility, at least we had say/vote/etc...you know our generation with our current beliefs according to the world today(unlike any time in the past, no matter how retarded the people who always pretend history repeats itself use that are...)

Lebron23

08-08-2014, 11:33 AM

It's about damn time.

ArbitraryWater

08-08-2014, 11:36 AM

http://media.tumblr.com/0c6257f705212880c399435fd61d9c07/tumblr_inline_mpl3h1xRnR1qz4rgp.gif

9512

08-08-2014, 11:39 AM

more military spending. yay! :rockon:

Why do you hate America? Why do you hate freedom? Those brave soldiers are fighting for all Americans to live well.

NumberSix

08-08-2014, 11:40 AM

I hope the Americans kill the British people that left England to go and fight for ISIS. Those treacherous pigs deserve it.
Those people aren't british.

BlkMambaGOAT

08-08-2014, 12:21 PM

Why do you hate America? Why do you hate freedom? Those brave soldiers are fighting for all Americans to live well.
Making healthcare affordable is a good start.

KevinNYC

08-08-2014, 12:29 PM

U.S. Warplanes Attack Militants in Iraq[QUOTE]American warplanes struck Sunni militant positions in northern Iraq on Friday, the Pentagon and Kurdish officials said, confirming the first significant American military operation in the country since United States forces withdrew in 2011.

Two F-18 fighters dropped 500-pound laser-guided bombs on a mobile artillery target near Erbil, according to a statement by Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary. Militants of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria were using the artillery to shell Kurdish forces defending Erbil,

kentatm

08-08-2014, 12:49 PM

"You're startling me with the severity of what you're describing," the CNN host said. "You said they are --- beheading children?"

http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/leader-isis-systematically-beheading-children-christian-genocide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdIEm1s6yhY

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/world/meast/stopping-isis/index.html

pure evil.

I'm not saying this guy is lying but we really need to make sure claims like this are true before we get dragged into more shit.

do any of you remember the Nayirah debacle?

The Nayirah testimony was the controversial testimony given before the non-governmental Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a female who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and the American president in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح‎) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1][2]

In her emotional testimony, Nayirah stated that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, take the incubators, and leave the babies to die.

Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International[3] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors...fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die."

link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_%28testimony%29)

tomSR.

08-08-2014, 01:38 PM

why is it not the french or the germans doing this shit......they have huge armies........and i do belive the germans know a thing or 2 about fighting in wars ......

tomSR.

08-08-2014, 01:40 PM

Those people aren't british.

their passports say they are...................and whole europe is fukked, crawling with muslims.................very dangerous to be a jew in europe, 1940 all over

KevinNYC

08-08-2014, 04:22 PM

their passports say they are...................and whole europe is fukked, crawling with muslims.................very dangerous to be a jew in europe, 1940 all over

1940?

chosen_one6

08-08-2014, 06:53 PM

why is it not the french or the germans doing this shit......they have huge armies........and i do belive the germans know a thing or 2 about fighting in wars ......

Because we started this shit. We gave the Iraqi's weapons in the 90's and then are surprised when they start using them for purposes other than what the US government wanted them to do. Then Bush decided to look for "weapons of mass destruction" and Osama bin Laden, both of which he never found, and now Obama's administration, military soldiers, and the civilians of the USA are paying for it.

zoom17

08-08-2014, 09:46 PM

It's about damn time.

:oldlol:

KevinNYC

08-09-2014, 01:49 AM

Raymone

08-09-2014, 02:32 AM

We gave the Iraqi's weapons in the 90's and then are surprised when they start using them for purposes other than what the US government wanted them to do.
:facepalm

Rodmantheman

08-09-2014, 02:45 AM

Airstrike Video hopefully more on these savages.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8f8_1407563305

SexSymbol

08-09-2014, 06:50 AM

ITT: Idiot americans try to make war look cool or justifiable

Patrick Chewing

08-09-2014, 09:28 AM

ITT: Idiot americans try to make war look cool or justifiable

Quit posting on an American board then.

step_back

08-09-2014, 09:34 AM

Quit posting on an American board then.

So people outside of America should have to kiss your ass and agree with everything you say otherwise their not welcome on ISH.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Patrick Chewing

08-09-2014, 09:37 AM

So people outside of America should have to kiss your ass and agree with everything you say otherwise their not welcome on ISH.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

No, you idiot. If he doesn't like our comments, then he can take his sorry ass elsewhere. If you want to talk about current events, but can allow yourself to not get butthurt, then post away. Some of you foreigners have a stick so far up your ass it must be tickling the back of your throats.

Godzuki

08-09-2014, 09:55 AM

Because we started this shit. We gave the Iraqi's weapons in the 90's and then are surprised when they start using them for purposes other than what the US government wanted them to do. Then Bush decided to look for "weapons of mass destruction" and Osama bin Laden, both of which he never found, and now Obama's administration, military soldiers, and the civilians of the USA are paying for it.

wtf does that have to do with this?

we did arm the Syrian rebels, but Obama purposely didn't arm them with anything strong when they were Syrian rebels, just light weapons. they were also apparently more moderate than they are now...altho that was when Mccain was so supportive of us backing them. that guy is the biggest idiot when it comes to overreacting to everything...Republicans in general always jump the gun on every fukking thing.

ISIS keeps taking over shit to have control over arms stockpiles and other stuff, who knows everything they have now. Thats why i find it really dumb how long we've waited to get involved, even if we're trying to force the Iraqi government to be more inclusive of Sunni's.

All i know is no other major country is doing shit but us. they rarely do shit about atrocities around the world everyone cries about and everyone looks to us. meanwhile all the fgts here talk shit like we're so awful, still talking shit like the typical foreign stupid mf'ers they are, educated from world of mouth and muslim bias history books....completely fukking clueless. and filled with the dumbest conspiracy theories in their heads where they can't even support what we take which is pretty important if you have a conspiracy dumbfukks....i swear there aren't dumber people on the internet than the conspiracy foreigners :facepalm

step_back

08-09-2014, 09:55 AM

No, you idiot. If he doesn't like our comments, then he can take his sorry ass elsewhere. If you want to talk about current events, but can allow yourself to not get butthurt, then post away. Some of you foreigners have a stick so far up your ass it must be tickling the back of your throats.

You don't like something someone said so you have a little bitch fit about it and ask him to go elsewhere. You have the audacity to accuse someone of else of being butthurt. :facepalm

You Americans talk shit about others all the time on here but when it's directed at you people should be polite.

Grow a pair and man up.:coleman:

step_back

08-09-2014, 10:00 AM

To be fair, that guy's post was nothing more than typical "I'm European and thus am inherently more intelligent than you" eurofag nonsense. Didn't even try to make a point; just wanted to take a shot.

In other words successful troll was successful.

NumberSix

08-09-2014, 12:47 PM

ITT: Idiot americans try to make war look cool or justifiable
America is bombing ISIS because they have 40,000 non Muslims trapped on a mountain and are starving them to death.

Godzuki

08-09-2014, 08:11 PM

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/08/09/newday-mcpike-obama-america-is-helping-iraqis.cnn.html

I can get now what Obama is fighting, which is the non involvement movement of America towards world affairs. He has to justify his actions and make a case to make us okay with it, and now its all sort of coming together for why we've stayed out of it for so long.

He's right tho, nobody else is helping...nobody else gives a shit. Say we're at fault to get involved all you want but the atrocities ISIS are committing are as bad as anything in the worlds history.

You'd think some other big country would jump in but no, its always US...the U.S....and yet every stuipd fukkin foreigner wants to paint us as the devil warmongers....

they force a christian to convert to Islam and then behead him, they are beheading kids....they are killing EVERYONE who isn't muslim....and you MF'ers think we're the bad guys because we're the ONLY major power standing up to these extremists?

stupid mf'ers :facepalm

zoom17

08-09-2014, 08:21 PM

KevinNYC

08-09-2014, 11:21 PM

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON

Godzuki

08-10-2014, 01:13 PM

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/08/10/pkg-watson-iraq-yazidis-at-mt-shingal.cnn.html

could be any of us, fortunately we were born lucky...

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/08/09/newday-us-warplanes-target-isis-fighters.cnn.html

like shooting fish in a barrel. Damn we're so evil being the only major power helping..only out for ourselves!!

thefatmiral

08-10-2014, 01:39 PM

giving weapons to nearby enemy forces doesnt seem to work. isil will get their hands on it. they definilitely need to be out. I cant imagine any peace treaty or negotiations.

SexSymbol

08-10-2014, 02:14 PM

America is bombing ISIS because they have 40,000 non Muslims trapped on a mountain and are starving them to death.
people die everyday, that is not USA's responsibility.
Why couldn't they help out with with revolution in Argentina and other famine in other south american countries, but instead just "help" countries, that they can later take something from.
The war machine must stop in order for USA becoming the dream again, instead of a joke that it became in the last 10 years.
Literally everybody laughs at Americans now, and it became Russia's and China's bitch

Godzuki

08-10-2014, 02:50 PM

people die everyday, that is not USA's responsibility.
Why couldn't they help out with with revolution in Argentina and other famine in other south american countries, but instead just "help" countries, that they can later take something from.
The war machine must stop in order for USA becoming the dream again, instead of a joke that it became in the last 10 years.
Literally everybody laughs at Americans now, and it became Russia's and China's bitch

only dumb foreigners keep trying to hate on us but nobody can really just laff at us considering we are the baddest boy on the block. i mean they can but its more like a helpless laff, disingenuous to our real power/influence of the world.

granted, we have our hands tied a lot these days but everyone still recognizes we are by far and away the strongest power in the world today if they know anything of current events/reality :pimp:

SexSymbol

08-10-2014, 04:44 PM

only dumb foreigners keep trying to hate on us but nobody can really just laff at us considering we are the baddest boy on the block. i mean they can but its more like a helpless laff, disingenuous to our real power/influence of the world.

granted, we have our hands tied a lot these days but everyone still recognizes we are by far and away the strongest power in the world today if they know anything of current events/reality :pimp:
No, you're not.
Nobody in the government trusts in their military power, as it became Russia's bitch numerous times now.

lakerfreak

08-10-2014, 07:37 PM

To fight off ISIS this was long overdue what took so long:biggums:

It took a little longer because in situations like these, America is putting the pressure on that president to resign, even though they had initially paved the way for him to become the president in the first place lol

As it got a bit more serious though with a possible genocide, eventually they had to step in with something. Airstrikes might not be enough but the shia and other freedom fighters need to start stepping in and doing the rest of the work.

ISIS, Hamas, Al Qaeda, Brotherhoods, and any other extremist need to be pinned on the radar at this point. There are still many places to consider when you want to talk about terrorists.

No.45

08-11-2014, 11:23 AM

It took a little longer because in situations like these, America is putting the pressure on that president to resign, even though they had initially paved the way for him to become the president in the first place lol

As it got a bit more serious though with a possible genocide, eventually they had to step in with something. Airstrikes might not be enough but the shia and other freedom fighters need to start stepping in and doing the rest of the work.

ISIS, Hamas, Al Qaeda, Brotherhoods, and any other extremist need to be pinned on the radar at this point. There are still many places to consider when you want to talk about terrorists.

There is no unified front against the IS. The Kurds and pesh merga don't give a crap about the Shia getting killed off; they only care about protecting kurdish territory. If they see Christians and Yazidi's being massacred outside kurdish soil, they won't do anything.

Airstrikes alone won't stop the massacres, what Iraq needs is leadership on the ground from an outside nation, since the divisions in Iraq won't lead to any unification at all. It's unfortunate, but that's what needs to happen. Plus, the IS is a sophisticated terrorist network and can't be underestimated as seen by their sweep of Iraq's second largest city....