Giannis Antetokounmpo against some big boys

[Oly BC]

Disappointing debut for Giannis in the first actually challenging game of his career in the Greece-Serbia friendly.
For the first time he was on the court with 9 quality players (having spent his career in the second greek division and the nba) and he did seem a bit lacking.
0 points, 0/3fgs in 16 minutes. Put in some hustle though.


I'm still optimistic. We shouldn't judge this young man harshly. Just the experience of training with so many good players will do wonders for his development. In this month he might show more improvement than in the past 2 years.

Giannis, keep working hard and you'll get there!:applause:

[duskovujosevic]

giannis strugles in half court basketball. in those 16 minutes he was guarded by one of the worst SF players in Serbian NT.

[Euroleague]

But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but.......he averaged 17.6 points per game in NBA SUMMER LEAGUE he is "already the greatest Greek player ever".....

according to Milbuck


:lol :oldlol: :roll:

and according to Milbuck since he was the 4th best player on a 2nd division team in Greece and the 5th to 6th best player on Greece's under 20 national team, he was also "the best player in the Euroleague"....

:facepalm :biggums:

And according to clowns like Rooster, CavsFTW, Dr.J4ever, gabepizza, qrich, the list goes on and on here, since he was a rotation player on one of the worst teams in the NBA, "he is automatically better than anyone on Greece's national team"...........

:facepalm

Probably too hard to judge him just yet after his first true professional level game. Since playing with the Bucks and in NBA summer league surely does not count as that.

This was definitely a deer in the headlights type of game. He is playing at a level that is severely above anything he has ever seen before.

The coach of Greece's national team has said over and over and over to the media when they ask him these dumb questions like is he going to lead the team, coming from this same delusion about some kind of NBA superiority and he keeps saying he's nothing more than a 19 year old kid and that's all he is.

They even put Nikos Zisis as having a personal job to spend half his damn time just teaching him basic fundamentals and skills.

Anyway, of course he will get better in time, as he is just in shock at having to play actual real professional basketball for the first time in his life. The Bucks and the summer league is like 5 levels lower than serious European national teams.

So this is sort of like the shock and awe phase for him, being thrown in the proverbial fire if you will.

It just goes to show how completely freaking insane these NBA only fans are.

I said it here over and over, if he was on Olympiacos or Panathinaikos last year, he would not have even gotten any playing time. And that was 100% obvious and confirmed watching him. If Giankovits and Pappas were 11 and 12 men in Panathinaikos, then Giannis would be no better than a 13 man in Panathinaikos.

The main reason he is in the national team, even with all the absences is because they simply want to get him used to being in the team and want to develop him. That's basically it. He's obviously not there on merit. Even Giankovits is more deserving to be in the team at his position in reality.

He's there basically I think to try to make some athletic plays and to try to cause some disruption with his length and maybe get some turnovers and make plays on the fast break for easy baskets. That's what Spanoulis requested from the federation after EuroBasket last summer, that they get some types of players like that. Guys that could just create some athleticism and make some types of hustle plays.

He's not there based on who is the best overall player at his position that is available at this time, even with the absences.

[Euroleague]

^ I hope you die.

Greek NT would probably beat the Bucks by like 30 points. It's just so funny that NBA only fans are actually this delusional.

But it is always nice when they get exposed though.

As pretty much every single Euroleague fan here agreed, the Bucks could not win at best more than 2-3 games in the Euroleague. Despite that being the case, pretty much across the board here, NBA only fans declared they would win the Euroleague championship and go undefeated.

That's the level of psychosis we are talking about here. Giannis has not played in a serious team or competition ever in his entire life.

Filathlitikos in Greek 2nd division = joke - it was a small youth type club and it was not even considered a serious club by the standard of Greek 2nd division

Bucks = joke - as stated, 2-3 wins in Euroleague at best.

NBA summer league = absolute freaking joke. It's honestly much worse than the D-League. Yet, we have clowns like Milbuck declaring him the 2nd coming based on that he averaged 17.6 points per game there, despite that he had the ball the entire time and could do whatever he wanted with it....for a good comparison, I would say someone on the Greek NT right now like Zisis could average 25-30 in summer league without breaking a sweat in similar conditions.

The whole forum is loaded with the "best player in Euroleague", "best Greek player ever", "next Durant" etc. hype.

He's a very, very talented kid. A super talented kid. That's all he is. he's never played in a team even 1/3 as good as Greek NT, not in a competition even remotely at the level at the World Cup, like playing against teams like Serbia that he just played against.

And that's not even in an intense game. That's not even with intense or physical defense. The physicality and level of the defense would ramp up by 3 fold in the serious games from that game.

This isn't the JOKE NBA regular season of a lottery team or the even bigger joke summer league where no one is physical and no one plays defense. And with those joke NBA rules (defensive 3 seconds) and refs and where you can travel and carry with the ball every single time you touch it. So yeah, it's seriously an enormous leap in the level of competition for him from anything he has ever seen in his career. And only the completely psychotic NBA only fan creeps can't figure that out.

[Oly BC]

Greek NT would probably beat the Bucks by like 30 points.
By halftime.

[iTare]

Greek NT would probably beat the Bucks by like 30 points. It's just so funny that NBA only fans are actually this delusional.

But it is always nice when they get exposed though.

As pretty much every single Euroleague fan here agreed, the Bucks could not win at best more than 2-3 games in the Euroleague. Despite that being the case, pretty much across the board here, NBA only fans declared they would win the Euroleague championship and go undefeated.

That's the level of psychosis we are talking about here. Giannis has not played in a serious team or competition ever in his entire life.

Filathlitikos in Greek 2nd division = joke - it was a small youth type club and it was not even considered a serious club by the standard of Greek 2nd division

Bucks = joke - as stated, 2-3 wins in Euroleague at best.

NBA summer league = absolute freaking joke. It's honestly much worse than the D-League. Yet, we have clowns like Milbuck declaring him the 2nd coming based on that he averaged 17.6 points per game there, despite that he had the ball the entire time and could do whatever he wanted with it....for a good comparison, I would say someone on the Greek NT right now like Zisis could average 25-30 in summer league without breaking a sweat in similar conditions.

The whole forum is loaded with the "best player in Euroleague", "best Greek player ever", "next Durant" etc. hype.

He's a very, very talented kid. A super talented kid. That's all he is. he's never played in a team even 1/3 as good as Greek NT, not in a competition even remotely at the level at the World Cup, like playing against teams like Serbia that he just played against.

And that's not even in an intense game. That's not even with intense or physical defense. The physicality and level of the defense would ramp up by 3 fold in the serious games from that game.

This isn't the JOKE NBA regular season of a lottery team or the even bigger joke summer league where no one is physical and no one plays defense. And with those joke NBA rules and refs and where you can't travel and carry with the ball every single time you touch it. So yeah, it's seriously an enormous leap in the level of competition for him from anything he has ever seen in his career. And only the completely psychotic NBA only fan creeps can't figure that out.
lmao
:lol

[HomieWeMajor]

lol the Greek players didn't pass him the ball because he was black. The racism he has faced on the court while playing for Greece is well documented online.

[Euroleague]

lol the Greek players didn't pass him the ball because he was black. The racism he has faced on the court while playing for Greece is well documented online.

That's not a funny troll man.

[Inferno]

That's not even a funny troll man.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=350525

Ignoring this thread?

[Euroleague]

Just in case Milbuck, Rooster, gabepizza and those types of clowns try to come here and pretend this did not happen....

Box Score:

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/12/39/85/36atZeLJMTHb6/

[moe94]

Disappointing debut for Giannis in the first actually challenging game of his career in the Greece-Serbia friendly.
For the first time he was on the court with 9 quality players (having spent his career in the second greek division and the nba) and he did seem a bit lacking.
0 points, 0/3fgs in 16 minutes. Put in some hustle though.


I'm still optimistic. We shouldn't judge this young man harshly. Just the experience of training with so many good players will do wonders for his development. In this month he might show more improvement than in the past 2 years.

Giannis, keep working hard and you'll get there!:applause:

This troll doe :coleman:

[Lebronxrings]

i think hes overrated.

Peak will be a 14/7/4 guy.

[Oly BC]

Just in case Milbuck, Rooster, gabepizza and those types of clowns try to come here and pretend this did not happen....

Box Score:

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/3886/12/39/85/36atZeLJMTHb6/
Ouch, negative rating...

[Euroleague]

Ouch, negative rating...

The center position for Greece after Bourousis though.....my freaking god. Bogris and Vougioukas. Is that seriously what Katsikaris is going to put in the team. 2 roster spots for that?

:facepalm

Good god....

And just imagine Spanoulis in this tournament. GUARANTEED gold.

And why the hell didn't Katsikaris and Vasilakopoulos wait for Spanoulis? Olympiacos said he is already doing individual workouts and he will be ready for team workouts on the 15th....

WTF? They couldn't freaking wait another damn month for him to be ready? He could freaking play at the damn tournament if they were not such idiots and just let him wait another month.

:rolleyes:

[ProfessorMurder]

You're going so far to discredit NBA players that you're discrediting a Greek player because other Greek players had better stats in a Euro game. WHO F*CKING CARES?

[Milbuck]

With the way the Greek NT has totally shafted him with his role and playing time, no surprise he's having a rough time. I'm just glad he isn't putting up shitty stats in the NBA, arbitrary numbers like 2.7 ppg on 32% shooting.

Still think it's hilarious that he was a Greek League all-star at just 17 years old, before anyone outside of Greece knew a damn thing about him.

Greek NT would probably beat the Bucks by like 30 points.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


****ing OJ Mayo and 3 JV high school players could probably take out the Greek NT playing 4 on 5 - so long as they keep Giannis in basketball jail the way they do in the NT.















































:roll: :roll: :roll:

[ILLsmak]

But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but.......he averaged 17.6 points per game in NBA SUMMER LEAGUE he is "already the greatest Greek player ever".....

according to Milbuck


:lol :oldlol: :roll:

and according to Milbuck since he was the 4th best player on a 2nd division team in Greece and the 5th to 6th best player on Greece's under 20 national team, he was also "the best player in the Euroleague"....

:facepalm :biggums:

And according to clowns like Rooster, CavsFTW, Dr.J4ever, gabepizza, qrich, the list goes on and on here, since he was a rotation player on one of the worst teams in the NBA, "he is automatically better than anyone on Greece's national team"...........

:facepalm

Probably too hard to judge him just yet after his first true professional level game. Since playing with the Bucks and in NBA summer league surely does not count as that.

This was definitely a deer in the headlights type of game. He is playing at a level that is severely above anything he has ever seen before.

The coach of Greece's national team has said over and over and over to the media when they ask him these dumb questions like is he going to lead the team, coming from this same delusion about some kind of NBA superiority and he keeps saying he's nothing more than a 19 year old kid and that's all he is.

They even put Nikos Zisis as having a personal job to spend half his damn time just teaching him basic fundamentals and skills.

Anyway, of course he will get better in time, as he is just in shock at having to play actual real professional basketball for the first time in his life. The Bucks and the summer league is like 5 levels lower than serious European national teams.

So this is sort of like the shock and awe phase for him, being thrown in the proverbial fire if you will.

It just goes to show how completely freaking insane these NBA only fans are.

I said it here over and over, if he was on Olympiacos or Panathinaikos last year, he would not have even gotten any playing time. And that was 100% obvious and confirmed watching him. If Giankovits and Pappas were 11 and 12 men in Panathinaikos, then Giannis would be no better than a 13 man in Panathinaikos.

The main reason he is in the national team, even with all the absences is because they simply want to get him used to being in the team and want to develop him. That's basically it. He's obviously not there on merit. Even Giankovits is more deserving to be in the team at his position in reality.

He's there basically I think to try to make some athletic plays and to try to cause some disruption with his length and maybe get some turnovers and make plays on the fast break for easy baskets. That's what Spanoulis requested from the federation after EuroBasket last summer, that they get some types of players like that. Guys that could just create some athleticism and make some types of hustle plays.

He's not there based on who is the best overall player at his position that is available at this time, even with the absences.

I came to the thread for this. Not even gonna read it. May come back and read it, just to know it happened is enough at this point.

-Smak

[RoundMoundOfReb]

His coach is a racist

[r0drig0lac]

And just imagine Spanoulis in this tournament. GUARANTEED gold.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/biggums.png

[gabepizza]

By halftime.

Yes that same Greek national team that was eliminated and embarrassed by Dagunduro and Nigeria and their team of NBA rejects in 2012.

Thank god Greece has some new blood. This is how they performed with Spanoulis on the world stage recently.

2013 Eurobasket - 11th place
2012 Olympic qualifying tournament - eliminated by Nigeria
2010 FIBA WC - 11th place.

Spanoulis has transformed Greek basketball from a top team in the world to a national joke. The whole world laughed at Greece and Spanoulis in 2010, 2012 and 2013 where he got embarrassed by the likes of Nigeria and Finland.

No matter how bad Antekounmpo plays this summer there is no way he can embarrass the Greek nation any more than that super scrub Spanoulis. Greek national team has no where to go but up without him playing.

:roll: :roll: :applause: :applause:

[VIntageNOvel]

euroleague on a roll :roll: :applause:

i love this guy

[oarabbus]

I came to the thread for this. Not even gonna read it. May come back and read it, just to know it happened is enough at this point.

-Smak

:lol

YO EUROLEAGUE HOWD GREECE DO VS NIGERIA LAST TIME THEY PLAYED? ?? ? ? ?

[Oly BC]

You're going so far to discredit NBA players that you're discrediting a Greek player because other Greek players had better stats in a Euro game. WHO F*CKING CARES?
I'm not discrediting him. I'm a big fan and really want him to do well, especially to piss off the racists here.
But he has a long way to go to be able to contribute consistently at this level.

[BoutPractice]

Giannis is still raw, but only a fool would deny his potential. He's one of a kind, with the ability to make plays few players in the history of the game have been able to make... A next generation freak.

[OncePerMonth]

Disappointing debut for Giannis in the first actually challenging game of his career in the Greece-Serbia friendly.
For the first time he was on the court with 9 quality players (having spent his career in the second greek division and the nba) and he did seem a bit lacking.
0 points, 0/3fgs in 16 minutes. Put in some hustle though.


I'm still optimistic. We shouldn't judge this young man harshly. Just the experience of training with so many good players will do wonders for his development. In this month he might show more improvement than in the past 2 years.

Giannis, keep working hard and you'll get there!:applause:

Disappointing. I want him to do well.

[Euroleague]

Yes that same Greek national team that was eliminated and embarrassed by Dagunduro and Nigeria and their team of NBA rejects in 2012.

Thank god Greece has some new blood. This is how they performed with Spanoulis on the world stage recently.

2013 Eurobasket - 11th place
2012 Olympic qualifying tournament - eliminated by Nigeria
2010 FIBA WC - 11th place.

Spanoulis has transformed Greek basketball from a top team in the world to a national joke. The whole world laughed at Greece and Spanoulis in 2010, 2012 and 2013 where he got embarrassed by the likes of Nigeria and Finland.

No matter how bad Antekounmpo plays this summer there is no way he can embarrass the Greek nation any more than that super scrub Spanoulis. Greek national team has no where to go but up without him playing.

:roll: :roll: :applause: :applause:

Yet ANOTHER blatantly racist remark here from this racist scumbag.

[Euroleague]

Giannis is still raw, but only a fool would deny his potential. He's one of a kind, with the ability to make plays few players in the history of the game have been able to make... A next generation freak.

True. But this gives no excuse for the absurd and ridiculous trolling people like Milbuck and gabepizza are doing, calling him the "best Greek player ever", "best player in Euroleague" (when he never even played in Euroleague), etc.

Yeah sure, he's the "best Greek player ever" over... Giannakis, Spanoulis, Galis, Papaloukas, Fasoulas, Christodoulou, Diamantidis, Kokalis, Koroneos, Stojakovic, Koufos, Calathes, Seikaly, Tsakalidis, Fotsis, Schorstanitis, Rentzias, Tsartaris, Amerikanos, Kolokythas, Bourousis, Zoupas, Trontzos, Sigalas, Zisis....and about 50 other Greek players. No point to even list them, because it's just getting tiresome.

The point is Milbuck and gabepizza and these idiots need to stop this crazy trolling.

He is even being given special treatment by Greece and the coach by being put in the team at age 19, even though he's not really good enough to even be in it, and already you have numerous claims here that the coach and other players are "racist against him" and that they are making him play bad.

This shit is absolutely outrageous and if this stuff was said about any NBA players and coaches there would be all kinds of complaints for people saying that. He's a very, very talented young 19 year old kid. Let him be a kid and develop.

And gabepizza with all his racist crap needs to be banned again.

[SexSymbol]

If he's an idiot (or troll), so are you for such an awful post. Negged...
Everybody hopes that he dies.