2011 Derrick Rose VS 2014 Stephen Curry

[Haks]

Rose: 25/7.7/4.1 3.4 TO 1spg 55% TS 23.5 PER .208 WS/48 62-20 team record
Curry: 24/8.5/4.3 3.8 TO 1.6spg 61% TS 24.1 PER .225 WS/48 51-31 team record
Who was better?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Curry

[Chrono90]

Obvious choice for me. It'll be the former MVP.

[GimmeThat]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2014.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/2011.html


compare the minutes played by teammates as well as team record

win share matters, win definitely then matters


The Bulls team shot about 110 more FTs than the opposing team that season
while the Warriors shot about close to 300 less than the opposing team

their assist/to rate in terms of team were as follow
Bulls 9th/17th
Warriors 7th/22nd


you switch the team record in a blind hypothesis test
and I wonder what people will say though

I just don't know if there's any simple formula to evaluate defensive impact

edit- since the goal of offense is to have single coverage, and the goal of defense is not to give out single coverage

[nathanjizzle]

against the top 8 teams in the league for that year


2011 rose
Derrick Rose 26.9 6.7 (12-6)

2014 curry
curry 24.9 8.6 (7-10)

0 38 9
1 22 9
0 32 5
1 27 10
0 30 15
1 15 11
1 36 12
0 37 11
1 22 7
1 34 9
0 29 7
0 5 5
0 34 7
1 19 6
0 13 8
0 20 6
0 11 10

[Meticode]

Hard choice. Mr. Glass Knees or Mr. Glass Ankles? Hmmm....

[Glass Ankles]

Hard choice. Mr. Glass Knees or Mr. Glass Ankles? Hmmm....
**** you.

[Pointguard]

Hard choice. Mr. Glass Knees or Mr. Glass Ankles? Hmmm....
Both of them were healthy the whole year in question. Hmmmm

[Meticode]

Everyone is so serious.

[GimmeThat]

Hard choice. Mr. Glass Knees or Mr. Glass Ankles? Hmmm....


which one can you do without while maintain more of your upper body coordiation/strength?

[Pointguard]

By stats there is an argument for Curry. By reality it wasn't close. Until Curry shows leadership, resiliency, defense, total confidence, tenacity to keep coming at opponents every game, obsession with winning, there will be a certain distance between them.

In the fourth quarter of close games, Rose was the king of the hill. Against the elite, he was the king of the hill. In the stretch run he was the king of the hill. Very different than just not standing out.

[Pointguard]

Everyone is so serious.
I didn't know it was you Met... The code lives on. But you were trollin.

[DMAVS41]

Curry.

Give me the guy you actually want jacking up threes.

[Meticode]

I didn't know it was you Met... The code lives on. But you were trollin.
Semi-trolling, because I'm not sure who I would pick still even if you're just taking that one year into account minus no injuries.

[oarabbus]

Curry > Rose :banana:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Rose

Better defender, more clutch.

MVP

[AnaheimLakers24]

Curry > Rose :banana:
at being a worse player

[Purch]

D-Rose was above averge defensively that season, so that Probally plays a factor

[SCdac]

I'd take 2011 Rose.

Better slasher, better defender, higher usage-% and played more minutes for a better team. In the Bulls 62 wins, Rose made ~2 three's per game at .36%, which is solid. Definitely a clutch, stand out season from him, had lots of his fellow players or former players calling him MVP.

Rose (25 ppg of the slow paced Bulls 99 ppg) >>> Curry (24 ppg of the fast paced Warriors 104 ppg)