What makes Shaq any better than Kevin Love in terms of individual dominance?

[GODbe]

They have a similar point per game output. Shaq of course has the edge in FG% and blocks. Love has the edge in shooting easily. He can also make freethrows down the stretch, something Shaq couldn't do his entire career which caused him to sit out entire 4th quarters.

In terms of the eye-test I have to say Love's game is more dominant to me. Shaq was literally all layups and dunks.

Who would you say is the better player?

[AnaheimLakers24]

love didn't have the benefit of playing with kobe. sucks he'll be playing with a small dick ball hog next season

[Patrick Chewing]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


Shaq has been the most dominant player the NBA has seen in the last 25 years.

[GODbe]

Shaq has been the most dominant player the NBA has seen in the last 25 years.
I don't see why people say things like this. He regularly closed out games even worse than 2011 LeBald. Good thing he had Clutchbe though.:applause:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

:facepalm:

[OncePerMonth]

They have a similar point per game output. Shaq of course has the edge in FG% and blocks. Love has the edge in shooting easily. He can also make freethrows down the stretch, something Shaq couldn't do his entire career which caused him to sit out entire 4th quarters.

In terms of the eye-test I have to say Love's game is more dominant to me. Shaq was literally all layups and dunks.

Who would you say is the better player?

:biggums:

[wakencdukest]

When every team in the league gears their defense to stop Kevin Love, Will he still be able to score? Shaq did what he wanted, that's called domination. If you played the Lakers you had to double and triple Shaq and hope he didn't find the open man or jam the ball in your face. Could Love handle that kind of defense against him every game, I think not.

[dubeta]

Shaq was able to make your hero, Godbe, your idol look like nothing more than a scrub when they played together

Do you think Love is also good enough to make Godbe look like a scrub?

[Overdrive]

He can also make freethrows down the stretch, something Shaq couldn't do his entire career which caused him to sit out entire 4th quarters.


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[T_L_P]

The funniest thing is, my only memory of Love last season was him choking away a game at the line. :oldlol:

[Odinn]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239468

[mehyaM24]

shaq aka MDE- 26.4 PER
kevin love- 23.2 PER

next please

[Kvnzhangyay]

So this is how people subtlety prop up kobe :biggums:

[HomieWeMajor]

This is a bit far out but listen to this.
Kevin Love wears the same number as Dirk Notwitzki.
They both wear the number 42.
4*2 =8 and 4/2 = 2
They are 82 games in a NBA season.
4+2 =6 and 4-2 =2
The Cavaliers will win 62 games next season.
4*4 = 16 and 2*2 =4 16+4 =20
The Cavaliers will lose 20 games next season.
Kevin Love was born in 1988 and he was drafted in 2008.
1+9+8+8=26 and 2+0+0+8=10
26-10=16
The Cavaliers will win 16 games in the NBA Playoffs next season.

[Hey Yo]

They have a similar point per game output. Shaq of course has the edge in FG% and blocks. Love has the edge in shooting easily. He can also make freethrows down the stretch, something Shaq couldn't do his entire career which caused him to sit out entire 4th quarters.

In terms of the eye-test I have to say Love's game is more dominant to me. Shaq was literally all layups and dunks.

Who would you say is the better player?
Sitting out entire 4th quarters??? :rolleyes:

Layups and dunks are the highest % shots a player can take.

[OncePerMonth]

So this is how people subtlety prop up kobe :biggums:

It is also preparing to demean whatever LeBron does this season.

[J Shuttlesworth]

1 month ago:

Love = empty stat padder who can't make the playoffs

Today:

Love = Shaq

[Kblaze8855]

For anyone wondering.....the only reason I'm not closing this is to allow the mocking it should generate to go on unobstructed.

Im hoping ISH doesn't let me down by treating this as a reasonable subject to discuss.

[Im so nba'd out]

So this is how people subtlety prop up kobe :biggums:
no he is basically trying to say lebron should be in the finals every yr since he got a player as good as shaq(like how kobe went to finals almost every yr with shaq)

[edrick]

Kobe lovers trying so hard to discredit Shaq's dominance. Now that Love looks like he'll be with LeBron, Love is no longer a choker, but on par with Shaq? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Im so nba'd out]

For anyone wondering.....the only reason I'm not closing this is to allow the mocking it should generate to go on unobstructed.

Im hoping ISH doesn't let me down by treating this as a reasonable subject to discuss.
o so your the one who deletes all the threads :rolleyes:

[Milbuck]

Next up: Was Michael Jordan actually better than Monta Ellis?

[Trollsmasher]

the LeBron stan behind this account is doing a solid work:applause:

[GrapeApe]

So this is how people subtlety prop up kobe :biggums:

There's nothing subtle about it and he's not a Kobe fan. Probably an alt of Dagic/corleone/dubeta or one of those clowns.

[Fudge]

:roll:

Kobe trolls are the best.

[OncePerMonth]

Next up: Was Michael Jordan actually better than Monta Ellis?

Jordan modeled his game after Ellis.

[K Xerxes]

100% positive this is the same guy as the 6for24 Ayotunde who posted that glorious Kobe chucking video. Both kobe haters doing a great job, this gimmick not as good though.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

This is a bit far out but listen to this.
Kevin Love wears the same number as Dirk Notwitzki.
They both wear the number 42.
4*2 =8 and 4/2 = 2
They are 82 games in a NBA season.
4+2 =6 and 4-2 =2
The Cavaliers will win 62 games next season.
4*4 = 16 and 2*2 =4 16+4 =20
The Cavaliers will lose 20 games next season.
Kevin Love was born in 1988 and he was drafted in 2008.
1+9+8+8=26 and 2+0+0+8=10
26-10=16
The Cavaliers will win 16 games in the NBA Playoffs next season.
:applause:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

100% positive this is the same guy as the 6for24 Ayotunde who posted that glorious Kobe chucking video. Both kobe haters doing a great job, this gimmick not as good though.
i've actually met kobe fans in real life who actually say shit on this scale of retardedness...

[Ass Dan]

No thread in ISH history has more misinformation than this one.

I am thoroughly impressed.

[DonDadda59]

Weak era for trolls :facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

100% positive this is the same guy as the 6for24 Ayotunde who posted that glorious Kobe chucking video. Both kobe haters doing a great job, this gimmick not as good though.

Not close.. Atoyounde clearly shows he's not a Kobe fan..

While I don't believe OP is either, we do have Kobe apostles saying some dumbass shit.

I mean kenneth is 100% serious. Not sure with 9er

[LAZERUSS]

Love has put up a 38-17 .611 Finals too.

[ralph_i_el]

When every team in the league gears their defense to stop Kevin Love, Will he still be able to score? Shaq did what he wanted, that's called domination. If you played the Lakers you had to double and triple Shaq and hope he didn't find the open man or jam the ball in your face. Could Love handle that kind of defense against him every game, I think not.

Love gets doubled all the time. He played with no shooters in Minny.

Shaq is a different level though

[OncePerMonth]

Weak era for trolls :facepalm

Agreed. I have no idea how this worthless troll thought has been discussed for 3 pages.

[K Xerxes]

i've actually met kobe fans in real life who actually say shit on this scale of retardedness...

I have too, but it's so obvious that this guy is trolling. Those IRL fans are just idiots who don't know anything about the game. They'd never post on a basketball-related forum.

[bigt]

This is a bit far out but listen to this.
Kevin Love wears the same number as Dirk Notwitzki.
They both wear the number 42.
4*2 =8 and 4/2 = 2
They are 82 games in a NBA season.
4+2 =6 and 4-2 =2
The Cavaliers will win 62 games next season.
4*4 = 16 and 2*2 =4 16+4 =20
The Cavaliers will lose 20 games next season.
Kevin Love was born in 1988 and he was drafted in 2008.
1+9+8+8=26 and 2+0+0+8=10
26-10=16
The Cavaliers will win 16 games in the NBA Playoffs next season.

Nice, except for the fact that Dirk Nowitzki wears 41. But don't worry, this just makes your post as accurate as OP's

[dubeta]

Prime Shaq is better than Bran's entire supporting cast combined

[jstern]

I have logged on to ish 3 times today. The 1st time a laker "fan" made a thread to diminish Gasol. The 2nd one was made by a Laker "fan" with the agenda of bringing down Magic Johnson. And now this one trying to convince people that Shaq was at the level of Kevin love.

Did something happened today that's making these 3 Laker fans turn against all these great Lakers?

Am I going to see an anti Kobe thread from a Laker fan when I come back later tonight?


shaq aka MDE- 26.4 PER
kevin love- 23.2 PER

next please

26.4 PER is not prime Shaq's PER. You're including his older years, to a player in his prime.

[HOoopCityJones]

Damn ... now I see why this board hates Kobe stans.

Shaq is one of the most dominant in the game's history.

Kevin Love isn't on that level bro, no way.

[Sarcastic]

Perfect example of stats not telling the whole story.

[Human Error]

Kobe fans. :facepalm

[KNOW1EDGE]

Shaq is the most physically dominant player in NBA history.

Kevin Love is soft.

Kill yourself

[riseagainst]

:roll:

[choppermagic]

No thread in ISH history has more misinformation than this one.

I am thoroughly impressed.

me too.

Shaq only had layups and dunks? Uh, maybe because it was NO ONE COULD STOP HIM from getting to the rim and dunking on them or throwing up layups. If Kevin Love was as dominant as Shaq, Lebron would have gone to join Love, not the other way around.

[mr beast]

They have a similar point per game output. Shaq of course has the edge in FG% and blocks. Love has the edge in shooting easily. He can also make freethrows down the stretch, something Shaq couldn't do his entire career which caused him to sit out entire 4th quarters.

In terms of the eye-test I have to say Love's game is more dominant to me. Shaq was literally all layups and dunks.

Who would you say is the better player?


Shaq and it's not even close. i m guessing you have never seen Shaq in his prime. if he caught the ball around the painted area, you knew something was gona happen and usually it ends with a nasty flush.

[GODbe]

Shaq and it's not even close. i m guessing you have never seen Shaq in his prime. if he caught the ball around the painted area, you knew something was gona happen and usually it ends with a nasty flush.
Or an intentional foul and two bricks. I'm not saying Shaq wasn't dominant, it's just that Love is as well. Probably more-so than Shaq was imho. He's basically Shaq with a little less defense but makes up for it with his jumpshot and freethrow ability. You'll never see a Hack-A-Love during a game.

[moe94]

Good thread