View Full Version : Can USA threepeat as World War champions?
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 04:38 PM
Do you think the USA can make it three straight World War World Championship trophies or will they peter out after winning two in a row like the Heat? Have USA lost the street hunger that made us back to back two time World War World Champions?
http://www.fastdecals.com/shop/images/detailed/13/americanflag20fc.jpg
Shade8780
08-09-2014, 04:39 PM
North Korea gonna win :banana:
zoom17
08-09-2014, 04:43 PM
There will never be ww3 just proxy wars like the one in syria.
9erempiree
08-09-2014, 04:43 PM
Our country needs to get hungry again. Watch out. When we hungry, we EAT.
:banana:
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 04:47 PM
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its true doe:mad:
how the phuck can Obama have a powder puff like that, Mr Prez needs a rottweiler atleast
KyleKong
08-09-2014, 04:52 PM
http://youngcons.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Screen-Shot-2014-08-08-at-9.25.23-PM.png
its true doe:mad:
how the phuck can Obama have a powder puff like that, Mr Prez needs a rottweiler atleast
http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/instantobamaosamameme.jpg
I<3NBA
08-09-2014, 04:59 PM
There will never be ww3 just proxy wars like the one in syria.
we're quickly approaching one. proxy wars are only good when the big powers can still afford not to go all out.
IMO, WW3 will be triggered in the Pacific, when China tries to forcefully claim the islands being contested in that area.
The U.S. will be forced to intervene. With the U.S. distracted, Russia will make its move to expand its borders, invading Ukraine. that will leave the middle east free from U.S. interference and also force NATO to respond to the Russian threat.
knickballer
08-09-2014, 06:22 PM
we're quickly approaching one. proxy wars are only good when the big powers can still afford not to go all out.
IMO, WW3 will be triggered in the Pacific, when China tries to forcefully claim the islands being contested in that area.
The U.S. will be forced to intervene. With the U.S. distracted, Russia will make its move to expand its borders, invading Ukraine. that will leave the middle east free from U.S. interference and also force NATO to respond to the Russian threat.
Lmao, No world war is going to happen in the foreseeable future. You think China will run the risk of being ruined economically by going to war? You think the ruling elite will benefit? You think US corporations(besides the Military industry complex) will benefit?
The world is run through $$. The ruling elite and the rich corporations will lose everything. All this is all bluff to keep people scared
Riley Martin
08-09-2014, 06:31 PM
If the world's at war, it should be called a world war.
Israel and Palestine/Hamas
Syria/Iraq and ISIS
Russia and Ukraine/USA/the world
China and Taiwan/the pacific
India and Pakistan
That's a lot of fronts right there.
#number6ix#
08-09-2014, 07:51 PM
We too stacked not win
Akrazotile
08-09-2014, 07:58 PM
Asterisk chips.
Take it back, now :crazysam:
HomieWeMajor
08-09-2014, 08:10 PM
lol don't they teach you history over there ?
Russia bailed you out two times like Ray Allen in game 6
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 08:21 PM
lol don't they teach you history over there ?
Russia bailed you out two times like Ray Allen in game 6
Dawg you got it all wrong, its more like USA was Dirk and Russia was JJ Barrea. England can be like, Jason Terry:lol
Mr Know It All
08-09-2014, 08:44 PM
Dawg you got it all wrong, its more like USA was Dirk and Russia was JJ Barrea. England can be like, Jason Terry:lol
German military casualties on the Eastern Front during WWII were something like 2.5 million while on the Western Front they were closer to half a million. The good ol US of A is great at bombing civilians and men in huts, not so good at going toe to toe with world powers on the ground. The German military fought them evenly on the retreat with a severely depleted military (old and very young men and sometimes even women) and still fought them very evenly until surrender (out killed them in fact).
I realize the whole "USA World War Champions" thing is a troll attempt, but the sad fact is that a lot of Americans actually believe this shit. Talk about delusional:oldlol:
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 09:13 PM
German military casualties on the Eastern Front during WWII were something like 2.5 million while on the Western Front they were closer to half a million. The good ol US of A is great at bombing civilians and men in huts, not so good at going toe to toe with world powers on the ground. The German military fought them evenly on the retreat with a severely depleted military (old and very young men and sometimes even women) and still fought them very evenly until surrender (out killed them in fact).
I realize the whole "USA World War Champions" thing is a troll attempt, but the sad fact is that a lot of Americans actually believe this shit. Talk about delusional:oldlol:
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighttttttttttttttttttt tt....
'fought evenly' aka got their ass handed to them.
This reminds me of Orlando fans putting on their revisionist goggles talking about the 2009 finals.
"DURP DURP IT WAS REALLY CLOSE DOE. 4-2 BUT IT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN A SWEEP FOR THE MAGIC, WE PLAYED THEM CLOSE DOE DURP DURP"
"Durp durp USA almost lost to Germany doe":hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
This kid:roll:
9erempiree
08-09-2014, 09:23 PM
To be honest Hitler underestimated us. That is one of the big reasons why he was so "ballsy" and decided he wanted to takeover Europe. He didn't see us as a threat and thought we were weak. It has been documented too.
Every time I think about how we kicked their asses it brings a smile to my face.
I would have loved to see his face when we landed in Normandy.
dannywpt
08-09-2014, 09:30 PM
Bran was equivalent to the French?
Angel Face
08-09-2014, 10:57 PM
Stacked, needed the help of multiple countries to defeat the Germans in WWII, Joined WWI when it was already going to be decided. Got butt kicked in Vietnam w/o help of other countries, stalemate in North Korea. :oldlol:
Israel has the best soldiers in modern times, 6 day war outnumbered vs multiple Muslim countries, still won in just... 6 days... :oldlol: Followed it by multiple victories in consecutive years against multiple Muslim countries and won again. Look at the size of Israel and compare it to Muslim nations surrounding it. Still not invaded and still exists on the map.
I'm no Jew nor Israeli, just stating facts.
BlkMambaGOAT
08-09-2014, 11:00 PM
Team US colluded with several countries there4 every ring is an asterisk.
#Somalia4WorldRuler
JohnFreeman
08-09-2014, 11:03 PM
Couldn't even defeat Vietnamese rice farmers with AK47s
digusting thread. we all know murrica would have been doomed if canada didnt swoop in and save the day
Rodmantheman
08-09-2014, 11:15 PM
digusting thread. we all know murrica would have been doomed if canada didnt swoop in and save the day
http://www.fybertech.com/4get/13868286091960.gif
JohnFreeman
08-09-2014, 11:16 PM
digusting thread. we all know murrica would have been doomed if canada didnt swoop in and save the day
Canada and Britain actually fought the most well trained and well equipped troops in Normandy :confusedshrug:
World War Championships are a team accomplishment. The Allies won. Germany had the best PER, PER36, etc. and the most on battlefield impact.
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 11:32 PM
]Stacked, needed the help of multiple countries to defeat the Germans in WWII,[/B] Joined WWI when it was already going to be decided. Got butt kicked in Vietnam w/o help of other countries, stalemate in North Korea. :oldlol:
Israel has the best soldiers in modern times, 6 day war outnumbered vs multiple Muslim countries, still won in just... 6 days... :oldlol: Followed it by multiple victories in consecutive years against multiple Muslim countries and won again. Look at the size of Israel and compare it to Muslim nations surrounding it. Still not invaded and still exists on the map.
I'm no Jew nor Israeli, just stating facts.
Dawg:facepalm
As soon as USA entered the war, Germans ran scared. USA lead D-Day, USA General LEAD THE ALLIED FORCES, USA won the battle of the bulge, USA just cleaned up, ALL THIS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY KICKING JAPANS ASS IN THE PACIFIC.
That's what you euro apologizists are forgetting.
Russia had one front. England had one front. USA HAD 2 AND WE DOMINATED VS 2 FASCIST REGIMES AT THE SAME TIME.
When all hope was lost, USA saved the day:bowdown:
When's the last time Russia won a war vs 2 super powers at the same time?
They fought off the germans, but they needed winter to help them, plus they lost like 20 million soldiers to do it.
USA fought off Japanese and Germans at THE SAME TIME. A feat like this has not been accomplished in the history of wars.
:bowdown:
Europe was all like
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061212224915/uncyclopedia/images/2/25/Chirac_white_flag.jpg
USA be like "CALM THE PHUCK DOWN, WE GOT THIS"
http://www.monroegallery.com/views/images/showcase/13812.jpg
http://www.iwojima.com/bond/lflage.gif
JohnFreeman
08-09-2014, 11:33 PM
Britain fought in Europe, Africa and the Pacific..
Dawg:facepalm
As soon as USA entered the war, Germans ran scared. USA lead D-Day, USA General LEAD THE ALLIED FORCES, USA won the battle of the bulge, USA just cleaned up, ALL THIS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY KICKING JAPANS ASS IN THE PACIFIC.
That's what you euro apologizists are forgetting.
Russia had one front. England had one front. USA HAD 2 AND WE DOMINATED VS 2 FASCIST REGIMES AT THE SAME TIME.
When all hope was lost, USA saved the day:bowdown:
When's the last time Russia won a war vs 2 super powers at the same time?
They fought off the germans, but they needed winter to help them, plus they lost like 20 million soldiers to do it.
USA fought off Japanese and Germans at THE SAME TIME. A feat like this has not been accomplished in the history of wars.
:bowdown:
Germany bossing like Wilt Chamberlain. USA won playing for the Allies which were stacked with future hall of famers. :facepalm
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 11:42 PM
Canada and Britain actually fought the most well trained and well equipped troops in Normandy :confusedshrug:
Under whose leadership?
ALLIED FORCES GENERAL EISENHOWER
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~kmmurray/The%20Longest%20Day/eisenhower%20and%20soldiers.jpg
phucking boss.
2x World War Champions, on the verge of a threepeat.
Imagine if Britain tried to fight Germany and Japan at the same time, they'd just pull a France and give up.
We Americans were just like "calm down son, we got this" and quietly took care of business
http://oi57.tinypic.com/oqhm53.jpg
JohnFreeman
08-09-2014, 11:45 PM
Russia is actually what turned the tide
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 11:46 PM
Stacked, needed the help of multiple countries to defeat the Germans in WWII, Joined WWI when it was already going to be decided. Got butt kicked in Vietnam w/o help of other countries, stalemate in North Korea. :oldlol:
Israel has the best soldiers in modern times, 6 day war outnumbered vs multiple Muslim countries, still won in just... 6 days... :oldlol: Followed it by multiple victories in consecutive years against multiple Muslim countries and won again. Look at the size of Israel and compare it to Muslim nations surrounding it. Still not invaded and still exists on the map.
I'm no Jew nor Israeli, just stating facts.
Dawg, the arab countries around Israel are like 17 year old euro ballers playing in Serbia division 2 to Israel's NBA pro. Not even a fair fight. I mean losing a war in 6 days? were you even trying arab bros?
USA going up against Germany and Japan was like going up against a team with Jordan and Shaq and winning.
Still we overcame the odds.
Cus we da bess.
No country could have beaten Germany in a 1 on 1 fight. Would've been over before the invention of the atom bomb.
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 11:47 PM
Russia is actually what turned the tide
russia only won on one front bro. Get back to me when they beat two super powers at once. Were you even trying Russia?
Nick Young
08-09-2014, 11:48 PM
[QUOTE=Gr
JohnFreeman
08-09-2014, 11:51 PM
russia only won on one front bro. Get back to me when they beat two super powers at once. Were you even trying Russia?
Japan wasn't a super power :lol
ThePhantomCreep
08-09-2014, 11:52 PM
lol don't they teach you history over there ?
Russia bailed you out two times like Ray Allen in game 6
Lend-lease program > Allen's 3
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 12:02 AM
Japan wasn't a super power :lol
Not sure if srs...
Euros don't understand the magnitude of USA's clutchness in battle. Taking on two superpowers at once and winning.. just wow. I mean we bitch slapped Germany and stole all their scientists. Then, we started owning the shit out of Japan, taking island after island, liberating lands of people, and then forcing them to surrender without even full invasion :lol (Oppenheimer da GAWD).
Then we spent a shit ton of money in aid to these Euros that were feeling like a girl takin a BBC up the ass for the first time.
And now these same Euros tryna talk up their role and forget who bailed them. You all did well but we were Finals MVP for a reason. The price of freedom is high, but it's a price the USA is willing to pay
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 12:03 AM
Japan wasn't a superpower...
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 12:06 AM
Japan wasn't a superpower...
Heavily industrialized, top 3 navy in the world, kicked the chicken shit out of Russia in a one on one war, running through the Chinese like they were nothing
They were a superpower bub. There's a reason why when Europe was colonizing everyone, they stayed the fck outta Japan :lol
ThePhantomCreep
08-10-2014, 12:06 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 12:12 AM
Luckily Germany invaded Russia and divided their forces.
Germany feasted on creampuffs like Poland, Netherlands and France. As soon as they ran into a decent opponent, their dominance stopped.
:no:
German military had the best stats.
Luckily Germany invaded Russia and divided their forces.
:eek:
That kill/death ratio against the Russians despite the circumstances.
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 12:16 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
Stats prove that German military was the best player in both world wars. USA was ring chasing and riding the coattails of stacked teams.
9erempiree
08-10-2014, 12:30 AM
3 US soldiers killed an entire squad.:oldlol:
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ww2_17/s_w16_50221162.jpg
kNicKz
08-10-2014, 12:36 AM
German military casualties on the Eastern Front during WWII were something like 2.5 million while on the Western Front they were closer to half a million. The good ol US of A is great at bombing civilians and men in huts, not so good at going toe to toe with world powers on the ground. The German military fought them evenly on the retreat with a severely depleted military (old and very young men and sometimes even women) and still fought them very evenly until surrender (out killed them in fact).
I realize the whole "USA World War Champions" thing is a troll attempt, but the sad fact is that a lot of Americans actually believe this shit. Talk about delusional:oldlol:
That Omaha Beach victory got you upset huh
:roll:
That Omaha Beach victory got you upset huh
:roll:
Superior kill/death ratio despite being outnumbered 3:1.
:bowdown:
ThePhantomCreep
08-10-2014, 12:41 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
kNicKz
08-10-2014, 12:41 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
Bruh there has never been a USSR flag flying over the capital of my country. Keep the stats, I'll take the FMVP
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Omaha Beach, bro.
Check the stats.
kNicKz
08-10-2014, 12:46 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 12:47 AM
Bruh there has never been a USSR flag flying over the capital of my country. Keep the stats, I'll take the FMVP
:roll: :roll: :roll:
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JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 12:48 AM
3 US soldiers killed an entire squad.:oldlol:
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ww2_17/s_w16_50221162.jpg
They were actually unarmed German POWs.
9erempiree
08-10-2014, 12:48 AM
Bruh there has never been a USSR flag flying over the capital of my country. Keep the stats, I'll take the FMVP
:roll: :roll: :roll:
http://www.ratsandwich.co.uk/gs/deadrat.jpg
Rodmantheman
08-10-2014, 12:51 AM
Gr
I have taken the L.
Still the GOAT World War player though.
kNicKz
08-10-2014, 12:57 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
Except not....at all
Beaten by ring chasers on a stacked team. :facepalm
ThePhantomCreep
08-10-2014, 01:05 AM
Keep in mind that the US, because of its isolationist policies, had a relatively weak fighting force when it entered the war:
US Troop strength
1940: 456k
1941: 1.8 million
1945: 12.2 million
The US had around 350 major combatant ships in 1941; by 1945 that number swelled to 1,200--far more than all the other major players in WWII combined.
In 4 short years, the US built the mightiest fighting force the world had ever seen, and it built it while fighting a war on two fronts.
Brah, the Germans were just sitting back on defense while allied forces were coming straight up the paint over and over, without Germany even getting the ball back. Of course one side gonna get a lot more blocks in that situation, empty stat though.
Best post of the thread. Got me to actually laugh irl. :applause:
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 01:08 AM
Keep in mind that the US, because of its isolationist policies, had a relatively weak fighting force when it entered the war:
US Troop strength
1940: 456k
1941: 1.8 million
1945: 12.2 million
The US had around 350 major combatant ships in 1941; by 1945 that number swelled to 1,200--far more than all the other major players in WWII combined.
In 4 short years, the US built the mightiest fighting force the world had ever seen, and it built it while fighting a war on two fronts.
The debt the country went into though..
ThePhantomCreep
08-10-2014, 01:14 AM
The debt the country went into though..
Small price to pay compared to...
http://en.ria.ru/images/18105/01/181050157.jpg
The US = GOAT road team. They only had troubles in Vietnam, arguably the GOAT home team.
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 01:16 AM
Small price to pay compared to...
http://en.ria.ru/images/18105/01/181050157.jpg
The US = GOAT road team. They only had troubles in Vietnam, arguably the GOAT home team.
Pearl Harbor was pretty bad.
ThePhantomCreep
08-10-2014, 01:31 AM
And the US far outscored Vietnam. Got booed the fvck off the court though.
Even US fans were pretty divided on that US team back then. Now they're pretty much universally loathed, like the early 80's Soviets or early 80's Iran.
They should have declined France and Saigon's invite into that tournament.
CelticBaller
08-10-2014, 01:39 AM
Ain't nobody stopping this train
GimmeThat
08-10-2014, 02:27 AM
nuclear bomb aside. under the assumption that it is simply banned.
the U.S. still potentially enjoy some advantages in innovation in terms of weapon machinary.
to say that the U.S. won the first few world wars would be a wrong statement in my opinion. but to say that they simply hadn't retire being on the side that won the war may be more accurate.
the biggest advantage in which U.S. as well as its allies has shared in history, is that it hasn't been on the side of the aggressor much. that's a lot of neutral parties out there, unless of course, many countries have been entering into a military state without the world's notice.
as for terrorism, as well as groups that are spread out amongst the world in which function under a mission to take down another country.
well, funding plays a pretty big part to it. without it, I doubt they remain invisible and not exposed within a time period.
this is about the worst hollywood script you're gonna find.
NumberSix
08-10-2014, 02:29 AM
Stacked, needed the help of multiple countries to defeat the Germans in WWII, Joined WWI when it was already going to be decided. Got butt kicked in Vietnam w/o help of other countries, stalemate in North Korea. :oldlol:
Israel has the best soldiers in modern times, 6 day war outnumbered vs multiple Muslim countries, still won in just... 6 days... :oldlol: Followed it by multiple victories in consecutive years against multiple Muslim countries and won again. Look at the size of Israel and compare it to Muslim nations surrounding it. Still not invaded and still exists on the map.
I'm no Jew nor Israeli, just stating facts.
Weak competition. Israel legit couldn't win a war with Mexico.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:17 AM
Japan wasn't a super power :lol
Dawg, Japan was pwning all of Asia. Japan was on par with germans dawg. Stop trying to rewrite history.
Japan+Germany was like Shaq and Jordan, Italy was like Glen Rice,
USA basically defeated a team with Shaq, Jordan and Glen Rice singlehandedly.
WE THE PEOPLE:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:20 AM
Not sure if srs...
Euros don't understand the magnitude of USA's clutchness in battle. Taking on two superpowers at once and winning.. just wow. I mean we bitch slapped Germany and stole all their scientists. Then, we started owning the shit out of Japan, taking island after island, liberating lands of people, and then forcing them to surrender without even full invasion :lol (Oppenheimer da GAWD).
Then we spent a shit ton of money in aid to these Euros that were feeling like a girl takin a BBC up the ass for the first time.
And now these same Euros tryna talk up their role and forget who bailed them. You all did well but we were Finals MVP for a reason. The price of freedom is high, but it's a price the USA is willing to pay
Stealing German scientists and using their evil inventions against their former BFFs Japan was cold blooded and also a stroke of genius.
Do not try to phuck with USA in war, because USA will punish you.
That's the only reason the World War finals haven't started yet, Euro and AZN teams feel defeated before it even begins.
Yeah, Euros you should be proud, you guys put in some good effort and had some nice moments, kind of like Trevor Ariza in the 2009 finals. Good thing USA was there to carry y'alls through the clutch moments though.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:23 AM
3 US soldiers killed an entire squad.:oldlol:
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/ww2_17/s_w16_50221162.jpg
them boys just be like "Too easy.":bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:27 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
GimmeThat
08-10-2014, 05:29 AM
Stealing German scientists and using their evil inventions against their former BFFs Japan was cold blooded and also a stroke of genius.
Do not try to phuck with USA in war, because USA will punish you.
That's the only reason the World War finals haven't started yet, Euro and AZN teams feel defeated before it even begins.
Yeah, Euros you should be proud, you guys put in some good effort and had some nice moments, kind of like Trevor Ariza in the 2009 finals. Good thing USA was there to carry y'alls through the clutch moments though.
to say the U.S. stole those scientists from Germany
is like saying Ballmer is about to steal the Clippers from L.A. and move it up to Oregon or Washington
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:30 AM
http://youtu.be/8bt3quhLmK4
Favorite scene in Saving Private Ryan. :applause: These German f*cks shit their pants at the sight of the Americans. We're not to be f*cked with.
America beat these Euros on the road and then took their scientists. Dat dominance. To be fair, we did also help them with their economy and shit. America can be cruel sometimes but we're merciful like that too. That's what makes us so great.
We've done so much for this world, they owe us. To answer the OP, I believe yes USA will 3peat if WW3 is necessary.
brilliant post. perfect description of americas dominance vs the Germans.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:34 AM
[QUOTE=Gr
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:37 AM
Pearl Harbor was pretty bad.
Pearl Harbor was an amazing comeback, 2002 Lakers vs Portland Game 7 level:bowdown:
step_back
08-10-2014, 05:37 AM
****
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:40 AM
American Jewish families invested in Germany prior to the War. Even families like the Bush's had business dealings with Nazi Germany. It was Harry Truman who sought to stop 100's of millions of dollars from funding Hitlers Germany. This wasn't exposed until 1942, nearly 4 years into the conflict.
America was making a lot of money playing both sides at the time and the Jews will do anything to make a few $$$ even though they knew Hitler was exterminating their people. Talk about scumbags.
Hitlers hatred of the Jews is because they stopped funding Germany in World War 1. He believed if they hadn't Germany would have won that war. Which was very plausible as it was an Imperialist War at it's core.
Just some little history facts that get lost in conversation. Enjoy you ignorant ****s.:rolleyes:
Just another outrageous Jew World Order jewspiracy from another jew hating europsycho:facepalm
step_back
08-10-2014, 05:46 AM
Just another outrageous Jew World Order jewspiracy from another jew hating europsycho:facepalm
I have no reason to hate Jewish people. Why would I?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
The World isn't black and white Nick. Stop viewing it through ignorant eyes.
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 05:53 AM
them boys just be like "Too easy.":bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
They were POWs, unarmed. Not really any glory on mowing them down
Angel Face
08-10-2014, 06:05 AM
America is more hyped due to American media. Who invented the radar? British... US have the numbers but Eurofags have better troops, except France, they are war losers. Germans and British troops are better than their American counterparts. At the end of the they, Allies needed to collude to defeat the Gemans. Germans have superior technology and troop quality, empty stats though. Don't forget Allies choked in Operation Market Garden. That's how good Germans are. If Hitler didn't backstab the Russians, I don't think,the Allies would beat the Germans. Hitler is one of the sole reason why Germany lost, his no retreat policy, his ego.
Also, Americans were scared to join the war early, Japanese need to bomb them first before they commit. Americans did a good job in clutch though, Japan choked.
StephHamann
08-10-2014, 06:39 AM
Germany in wars is like the mid 2000s Phoenix Suns- pretty regular season record, surprised a few teams, had a few nice results, but once it gets to crunch time in the playoffs, when things really matter, they just can't do enough to get it done.
http://www.planet-wissen.de/politik_geschichte/drittes_reich/adolf_hitler/img/hitler_portrait2_akg_g.jpg
http://www.papermag.com/uploaded_images/dantoni.jpg
:biggums:
KobesFinger
08-10-2014, 06:42 AM
Glorifying war :facepalm
sweggeh
08-10-2014, 06:44 AM
American education
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx9jb1SPMr1qdrpdr.gif
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 07:15 AM
Glorifying war :facepalm
these brits trying to rewrite history, denying the facts that we carried them on our backs to 2 World War World Championship titles like Kobe carried Sasha Vujacic :roll: :roll: :roll:
ROCSteady
08-10-2014, 07:48 AM
This is one of the more entertaining threads in OTC in a MINUTE.
Can't stop geeking out with these analogies and the ethnocentrism of the premise.
Of course engineered by a Lakers fan, the bravado comes from all those Purple And Gold banners and growing up with a dynasty
KobesFinger
08-10-2014, 10:10 AM
these brits trying to rewrite history, denying the facts that we carried them on our backs to 2 World War World Championship titles like Kobe carried Sasha Vujacic :roll: :roll: :roll:
I know he's trolling but is it a general belief amongst Americans that they saved us in WW2?
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 10:18 AM
I know he's trolling but is it a general belief amongst Americans that they saved us in WW2?
Hitler saved England as much as the Americans did. Attacking Russia and stopping the bombing of RAF airfields helped.
Mr Know It All
08-10-2014, 10:18 AM
American education
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx9jb1SPMr1qdrpdr.gif
This. And people make fun of the Russians for being brainwashed.:oldlol:
kNicKz
08-10-2014, 11:00 AM
American education
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx9jb1SPMr1qdrpdr.gif
I've lived in 3 countries. Without USA WWII clearly goes a different way. Our production capability alone wins the war.
Dat euro education :roll: forgetting who Daddy is
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:04 AM
I've lived in 3 countries. Without USA WWII clearly goes a different way. Our production capability alone wins the war.
Dat euro education :roll: forgetting who Daddy is
You know the invasion of France wouldn't have been possible without Russia? Russia won the war for the Allies.
step_back
08-10-2014, 11:05 AM
****
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 11:07 AM
You know the invasion of France wouldn't have been possible without Russia? Russia won the war for the Allies.
Russia was the Pippen or the Kobe to our Jordan/Shaq. They played a much better role than other Euros but the USA was clearly MVP. Took on two superpowers and shit on em. General Eisenhower is the GOAT :bowdown:
This thread has gone way off topic doe. Regarding OP's point, US military is so good that we are guaranteed to be MVP. Hell, the whole world wouldn't gang up on the US if they had the opportunity. We're just that great
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:09 AM
Shame the USA were such cowards and waited to get involved.
StephHamann
08-10-2014, 11:10 AM
USA was stat padding in garbage time, Russia da real MVP
KobesFinger
08-10-2014, 11:11 AM
Russia was the Pippen or the Kobe to our Jordan/Shaq. They played a much better role than other Euros but the USA was clearly MVP. Took on two superpowers and shit on em. General Eisenhower is the GOAT :bowdown:
Which two superpowers were these?
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:11 AM
Which two superpowers were these?
They keep saying Japan was a super power, which it was not.
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 11:13 AM
They keep saying Japan was a super power, which it was not.
Heavily industrialized, top 3 navy in the world, kicked the chicken shit out of Russia in a one on one war, running through the Chinese like they were nothing
They were a superpower bub. There's a reason why when Europe was colonizing everyone, they stayed the fck outta Japan :lol
Typical Eurocentric thinking that only the Western world can be a superpower. Wake up brah, Japan was strong as fck
Godzuki
08-10-2014, 11:21 AM
they should teach history like this in classrooms. i bet kids would be digging it instead of their heads down.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:25 AM
They keep saying Japan was a super power, which it was not.
stop being xenophobic vs Japan because they're asian.
Euros always underestimating any non-europeans
Japan dominated Russia 1v1, which Germany couldn't even do:roll: :roll: :roll:
Japan dominated China and South east asia and Korea:roll: .
If you look at things objectively, Japan was more of a super power then Germany was. They certainly accomplished as much if not more then the Germans did in WWII.
Japan actually did pretty good vs THE GOAT NAVY USA whereas all Germany did was retreat retreat retreat when Uncle Sam came a knockin.
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:26 AM
stop being xenophobic vs Japan because they're asian.
Euros always underestimating any non-europeans
Japan dominated Russia 1v1, which Germany couldn't even do:roll: :roll: :roll:
Japan dominated China and South east asia and Korea:roll: .
If you look at things objectively, Japan was more of a super power then Germany was. They certainly accomplished as much if not more then the Germans did in WWII.
Japan actually did pretty good vs THE GOAT NAVY USA whereas all Germany did was retreat retreat retreat when Uncle Sam came a knockin.
:oldlol:
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:27 AM
Which two superpowers were these?
You gonna try to claim Japan, the country that dominated vs Russia AND China, was not a super power now? Christ, British history books really are useless:facepalm
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:30 AM
:oldlol:
FACTS:
Japan shit on Russia and had them running scared in a 1v1 war. In basketball terms, Russia was like CP3 losing by 58 at home in the playoffs to the Japanese Nuggets.
Meanwhile, Germany gets completely shitted on by Russia, a country that got dominated by Japan.
Meanwhile, while Germany is busy losing to a bunch of Russian peasants with one bullet each and abit off snow, Japan is busy dominating against CHINA.
Stop being racist vs AZNs. Japan was a super power on equal footing with the Germans.
There's a reason Japan lasted a lot longer then Germany did once USA came in to finish shit.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-10-2014, 11:31 AM
It’s hilarious listening to the Russkies, one gets the impression they won all by themselves. Listening to the Brits, one gets the impression they won all by themselves. Listening to Americans, same thing. We learn that they're all liars. :oldlol:
The US wouldn't have "won" without the British holding on in the 'Battle of Britain'. Had the Soviets been defeated on the Eastern Front, there's no way Americans defeat Germany. Without America's industrial superiority and built Air Force, the history books would've been re-written.
Everyone sane knows it was a united effort. None of the nations above would’ve stood a chance of winning against Germany all alone.
StephHamann
08-10-2014, 11:34 AM
FACTS:
There's a reason Japan lasted a lot longer then Germany did once USA came in to finish shit.
Yeah because the agenda was Europe First
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:36 AM
Yeah because the agenda was Europe First
Plus Germany was completely surrounded by countries, and Japan was island hopping.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:44 AM
It’s hilarious listening to the Russkies, one gets the impression they won all by themselves. Listening to the Brits, one gets the impression they won all by themselves. Listening to Americans, same thing. We learn that they're all liars. :oldlol:
The US wouldn't have "won" without the British holding on in the 'Battle of Britain'. Had the Soviets been defeated on the Eastern Front, there's no way Americans defeat Germany. Without America's industrial superiority and built Air Force, the history books would've been re-written.
Everyone sane knows it was a united effort. None of the nations above would’ve stood a chance of winning against Germany all alone.
Here's the key fact.
USA won while fighting on two fronts, vs two super powers.
Russia and Britain were fighting on one front, and Britain even needed an American general to take over before they finally summoned up the balls to land an invasion force on mainland Europe.
America was busy leading D-Day AND winning in the greatest naval war the world had ever seen all the way across the world in the pacific.
That multitasking.:bowdown:
THAT is why we were crowned world war champions in WW2.
If USA didn't have to divide its forces in half, and could focus entirely on the European theater-SHEEIT, game over baby. Germany would not have lasted a month if USA wasn't fighting Japan at the same time.
Face reality Euros.
You were carried to victory by USA.
Even IF Germany had beaten Russia, USA would have EASILY killed the Germans if USA only had the European theater and didn't need to worry about kicking Japans ass too.
Germany is lucky, they only lasted as long as they did vs us due to their alliance with Japan.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:48 AM
Yeah because the agenda was Europe First
WRONG.
Japan was stronger and had better tactics.
Germany folded over, in an almost French-like fashion as soon as things got tough and America came a knockin.
Meanwhile, it took the biggest bomb of all time to make Japan surrender.
Japan>Germany.
StephHamann
08-10-2014, 11:50 AM
WRONG.
Japan was stronger and had better tactics.
Germany folded over, in an almost French-like fashion as soon as things got tough and America came a knockin.
Meanwhile, it took the biggest bomb of all time to make Japan surrender.
Japan>Germany.
Seventy-eight percent of Army and Army airforce manpower was deployed against Germany versus 22 percent deployed in the Pacific.
Plus Hitler admitted in private after the defeat at Moscow the war is lost. So the US was statt padding in garbage time.
Thank god they did though, otherwise the Russkies would have conquered whole europe and we would live in total garbage like Bulgaria Poland etc.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:51 AM
Germany are a flat track bully with an overrated rep, like the Pacers. Poland, Holland, France? Aka the bobcats, pelicans and knicks respectively:roll: :roll: :roll:
Germany basically did a clean sweep of the bottom 3 teams in the L. No big accomplishment there. As soon as they ran up against a midlevel top 4 Euro seed like the UK? They just couldn't get it done:lol
As soon as USA came in, all they did was runaway back home. Retreat retreat defeat defeat became the new lyrics to the German national anthem in those sad and pathetic years of USA kicking their ass.
Don't forget the defending champs saved Europe while fighting off the super power Japan and liberating the Philipines and the rest of asia AT THE SAME PHUCKING TIME.
If UK had to take out Japan AND Germany? Game over.
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:53 AM
Seventy-eight percent of Army and Army airforce manpower was deployed against Germany versus 22 percent deployed in the Pacific.
Plus Hitler admitted in private after the defeat at Moscow the war is lost. So the US was statt padding in garbage time.
Thank god they did though, otherwise the Russkies would have conquered whole europe and we would live in total garbage like Bulgaria Poland etc.
Pretty much. Small forces of Australians held off the Japanese advance in the pacific :oldlol: Japanese had next to no supplies and advanced way too quickly. The failure of Operation Barbarossa is what caused Germany's downfall.
StephHamann
08-10-2014, 11:54 AM
If UK had to take out Japan AND Germany? Game over.
Yeah considering the USA is basically the whole Europe continent in one country that is no suprise.
Fall Gelb was a genius plan though, one of the greatest victories of all time, a Hannibal / Napoleon / Alexander like.
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:55 AM
I don't think it's crazy to call Japan a superpower. That term is open to interpretation anyway. I don't think some people realize how grueling the pacific theater was. And we were the only ones fighting it.
The British and Australians fought in Burma and Singapore?
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:56 AM
Seventy-eight percent of Army and Army airforce manpower was deployed against Germany versus 22 percent deployed in the Pacific.
Plus Hitler admitted in private after the defeat at Moscow the war is lost. So the US was statt padding in garbage time.
Thank god they did though, otherwise the Russkies would have conquered whole europe and we would live in total garbage like Bulgaria Poland etc.
You Germans and your stats. Stats stats stats.
The only stat that matters is the win/loss column.
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Nick Young
08-10-2014, 11:57 AM
Yeah considering the USA is basically the whole Europe continent in one country that is no suprise.
Fall Gelb was a genius plan though, one of the greatest victories of all time, a Hannibal / Napoleon / Alexander like.
the euro-excuse train rolling in. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are starting to sound like a Frenchman with all these excuses and what-ifs.:no:
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 11:58 AM
Yeah considering the USA is basically the whole Europe continent in one country that is no suprise.
Fall Gelb was a genius plan though, one of the greatest victories of all time, a Hannibal / Napoleon / Alexander like.
Probably one of the greatest invasions ever
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 12:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/v31qI5Q.jpg
holy fcking shit :roll: :roll: :roll:
greatest picture of all time :bowdown: :bowdown:
USA USA USA
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 12:23 PM
Another thing about the Japanese is they had heart. A lot of Euro countries have that LeBron James G1 vs. Spurs mentality that when it gets tough, they just check out. Them Japanese kept fighting and would have kept fighting until the USA literally threatened to wipe them off the face of the planet. Compare that to the Germans who began to choke.
As seen by the World Cup this year though, it's good that the USA arrived in Germany as we taught them a lot about clutchness and delivering when it matters
LEFT4DEAD
08-10-2014, 12:27 PM
So many dumb kids who dont know shit about wwII in this thread makes me :facepalm .
Without USA the war would have gone different way??? Are you ****ing kidding me?
Germans lost the war basically with attacking the Russians because they had no supplies to battle in such cold.
USSR lost over 20 000 000 people over there, and have killed over 70% of Germans soldiers. That is a fact.
Do you know what Bismarck is? The most powerfull force in the war by a huge margin. The mistake that Hitler made to send it to the port of Brest to repair that boat was the second biggest mistake at the time along with attacking the Russians.
If not for British old battle airplanes that were too SLOW for that ships anti-aircraft's technology the USA would of got destroyed in couple of months and god knows what would happen.
Great Britain and Russians won the war with little help from USA, France and couple more countries.
Without USA the war would have lasted longer, but to say that USA change the outcome and was decisive in WWII....??? ...one of the biggest stuppidities I have heard in a long time, just to show me how really those pro-USA guys in this thread are dumb, delusional and uneducated.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 12:32 PM
Another thing about the Japanese is they had heart. A lot of Euro countries have that LeBron James G1 vs. Spurs mentality that when it gets tough, they just check out. Them Japanese kept fighting and would have kept fighting until the USA literally threatened to wipe them off the face of the planet. Compare that to the Germans who began to choke.
As seen by the World Cup this year though, it's good that the USA arrived in Germany as we taught them a lot about clutchness and delivering when it matters
Yes the Japanese were playing with an 04 Pistons level of grit, heart and determination. Props to you Japan, you were a worthy enemy, and our victory tasted that much sweeter for it. The Pacers analogy fits again for Germany. Dominated regular season in a weak conference, checked out mentally and ordered a big fat choke sandwich come playoff time.
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KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 12:34 PM
So many dumb kids who dont know shit about wwII in this thread makes me :facepalm .
Without USA the war would have gone different way??? Are you ****ing kidding me?
Germans lost the war basically with attacking the Russians because they had no supplies to battle in such cold.
USSR lost over 20 000 000 people over there, and have killed over 70% of Germans soldiers. That is a fact.
Do you know what Bismarck is? The most powerfull force in the war by a huge margin. The mistake that Hitler made to send it to the port of Brest to repair that boat was the second biggest mistake at the time along with attacking the Russians.
If not for British old battle airplanes that were too SLOW for that ships anti-aircraft's technology the USA would of got destroyed in couple of months and god knows what would happen.
Great Britain and Russians won the war with little help from USA, France and couple more countries.
Without USA the war would have lasted longer, but to say that USA change the outcome and was decisive in WWII....??? ...one of the biggest stuppidities I have heard in a long time, just to show me how really those pro-USA guys in this thread are dumb, delusional and uneducated.
Not sure if srs.. hell Britain was buyin off supplies from the US like their lives depended on it. Phone a friend, more like beg a friend :lol
Then, as soon as the USA gets in there, we start killing Germans like nothing. The Russians would have done alone but lettuce not forget how many Russians were sacrificed. That loses FMVP points from most people. And Euros ignorantly forget the Pacific because according to them only Europe matters. But the US carried the war in the Pacific against the brutal Japanese. After all, the Japanese were our true enemies and the reason why we were in the war since they sucker punched us at Pearl Harbor
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 12:37 PM
So many dumb kids who dont know shit about wwII in this thread makes me :facepalm .
Without USA the wbla bla blah blah blah blah blah.
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sorry bro. Couldn't hear you over the sound of freedom
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http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/joanna-krupa-american-flag-bikini-754x471-e1372700829295.jpg
you're welcome europe. all your women owe their freedom to us now.
LEFT4DEAD
08-10-2014, 12:40 PM
:lol at those responses. How dumb kids can be nowdays :sleeping
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 12:46 PM
:lol at those responses. How dumb kids can be nowdays :sleeping
You Euros sound like Scottie Pippen these days. Jealous as fck of the GOAT :lol
BlackWhiteGreen
08-10-2014, 01:05 PM
Britain so clever to leave their reserves out until late in the game to overwhelm the Germans :applause:
Thanks for being the backup plan USA
VIntageNOvel
08-10-2014, 01:13 PM
to make it more interesting
lets say russia sided with german and japan, and formed a big 3 ala heat
would the america team still won?
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 01:25 PM
to make it more interesting
lets say russia sided with german and japan, and formed a big 3 ala heat
would the america team still won?
no doubt. Unlike the Germans, we would have known that it gets cold in Russia at winter and we would have come prepared.
Soviets are our bitch. Miracle on Ice AND the Cold War AND Rocky IV. It would have been no different in WWII.
InfiniteBaskets
08-10-2014, 01:42 PM
If there was such a thing as a luxury military roster tax, the US would make Prokhorov look like Sterling.
LoPro4u2c
08-10-2014, 02:58 PM
LOL, America's record against Asian countries aren't even impressive.
Lost to a Third World Country called Vietnam.
Stalemate to North Korea.
Won against Japan but had to use Nukes aka Asterisk *.
America W/L record vs Asian Countries: 1*-1-1. :roll: :roll: :roll:
No wonder America doesn't want a piece of China. They don't want a 2nd loss.
ThePhantomCreep
08-10-2014, 03:03 PM
Yeah considering the USA is basically the whole Europe continent in one country that is no suprise.
Fall Gelb was a genius plan though, one of the greatest victories of all time, a Hannibal / Napoleon / Alexander like.
US population 1940: 130 million
Europe: way more
Team US wasn't particular deep, despite the large terrain.
KingBeasley08
08-10-2014, 03:13 PM
LOL, America's record against Asian countries aren't even impressive.
Lost to a Third World Country called Vietnam.
Stalemate to North Korea.
Won against Japan but had to use Nukes aka Asterisk *.
America W/L record vs Asian Countries: 1*-1-1. :roll: :roll: :roll:
No wonder America doesn't want a piece of China. They don't want a 2nd loss.
USA is undefeated vs Asia. Don't be trippin. Got the Japanese who have major spirit to surrender and were literally raping Vietnam till hippies pulled us out.
Haters gon hate against the GOAT
Riley Martin
08-10-2014, 03:19 PM
LOL, America's record against Asian countries aren't even impressive.
Lost to a Third World Country called Vietnam.
Stalemate to North Korea.
Won against Japan but had to use Nukes aka Asterisk *.
America W/L record vs Asian Countries: 1*-1-1. :roll: :roll: :roll:
No wonder America doesn't want a piece of China. They don't want a 2nd loss.
Big 3 victory by Britain, France and the U.S. over China in the Second Opium War. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Opium_War)
U.S. victory over the Philippines in the Philippine–American War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine–American_War)
ThePhantomCreep
08-10-2014, 03:19 PM
LOL, America's record against Asian countries aren't even impressive.
Lost to a Third World Country called Vietnam.
Stalemate to North Korea.
Won against Japan but had to use Nukes aka Asterisk *.
America W/L record vs Asian Countries: 1*-1-1. :roll: :roll: :roll:
No wonder America doesn't want a piece of China. They don't want a 2nd loss.
And the Soviets bankrupted themselves in a loss to Afghanistan. The Asia/Middle East Conference plays by unconventional rules (guerrilla warfare), which isn't a US strength. Conventional rules? US would slap China around for fun.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 04:47 PM
LOL, America's record against Asian countries aren't even impressive.
Lost to a Third World Country called Vietnam.
Stalemate to North Korea.
Won against Japan but had to use Nukes aka Asterisk *.
America W/L record vs Asian Countries: 1*-1-1. :roll: :roll: :roll:
No wonder America doesn't want a piece of China. They don't want a 2nd loss.
dawg, asians wwere samurais and invented kung fu and karate and muay thai and taekwondo and gun powder.
They were killing eachother with insane techniques and weapons back when white black and american people were still banging eachother over the head with stone clubs and sharpened sticks.
Even going up against AZNs is impressive. There's a reason Europe does absolutely everying it can to NOT mess with AZNs.
Also in Vietnam we beat the shit out of them. Our PER Is off the charts in that war. Just couldnt do anything against that home field advantage and dodgy reffing
CelticBaller
08-10-2014, 04:50 PM
:lol at those responses. How dumb kids can be nowdays :sleeping
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Nick Young
08-10-2014, 04:54 PM
[QUOTE=Riley Martin]Big 3 victory by Britain, France and the U.S. over China in the Second Opium War. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Opium_War)
U.S. victory over the Philippines in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine
NumberSix
08-10-2014, 05:02 PM
no doubt. Unlike the Germans, we would have known that it gets cold in Russia at winter and we would have come prepared.
Soviets are our bitch. Miracle on Ice AND the Cold War AND Rocky IV. It would have been no different in WWII.
Not really. Their Marxist/Stalinist ideology has completely infiltrated the west and is rotting it from the inside out including a Marxist currently sitting in the oval office. The communists might have the last laugh after all.
Nick Young
08-10-2014, 05:05 PM
Not really. Their Marxist/Stalinist ideology has completely infiltrated the west and is rotting it from the inside out including a Marxist currently sitting in the oval office. The communists might have the last laugh after all.
Not at all bro:facepalm
Only thing its infiltrated is the socialist clubs at universities.
JohnFreeman
08-10-2014, 10:52 PM
no doubt. Unlike the Germans, we would have known that it gets cold in Russia at winter and we would have come prepared.
Soviets are our bitch. Miracle on Ice AND the Cold War AND Rocky IV. It would have been no different in WWII.
USA would have got wrecked by Russia
CelticBaller
08-10-2014, 10:59 PM
USA would have got wrecked by Russia
with what nukes?
stalingrad would've looked modern compared to the rest of the country
riseagainst
08-11-2014, 01:44 AM
:roll:
CeltsGarlic
08-11-2014, 02:12 AM
This thread is so fvcking weird :lol
like reading "history for dummies: redneck edition"
This thread is so fvcking weird :lol
like reading "history for dummies: redneck edition"
:roll:
kNicKz
08-11-2014, 05:22 AM
USA fights in Europe, Asia, and North Africa, then Invents Nuke
Not needed for a W apparently
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Some education for Euros that wanted nothing to do with the warfare in the Pacific:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005155
https://warosu.org/data/sci/img/0066/21/1404222339150.jpg
kNicKz
08-11-2014, 05:28 AM
Pretty much. Small forces of Australians held off the Japanese advance in the pacific :oldlol: Japanese had next to no supplies and advanced way too quickly. The failure of Operation Barbarossa is what caused Germany's downfall.
If the USA doesn't win the battle of Midway no European force holds back anything after fighting Germany
Food for thought
Nick Young
08-11-2014, 07:01 AM
USA would have got wrecked by Russia
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
We wrecked Japan.
Japan wrecked Russia 1v1.
Years after WWII we wrecked Russia again in the Miracle on Ice and then in the cold war.
Rocky wrecked Ivan Drago.
Russia NEVER. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEERRR has come close to having the capability to "wreck" USA, disregarding nukes.
Germany meanwhile:
http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/German-troops-on-the-mrach.jpg
'Run Franz run! It's getting abit nippy and I forgot my coats and streudel! These peasants with one bullet are too much for me to handle!'
That French-like continental mentality:facepalm
fiddy
08-11-2014, 07:04 AM
if ww3 erupts, i hope the russia manages to nuke U.S. just once, where Nick Young lives
Nick Young
08-11-2014, 07:08 AM
if ww3 erupts, i hope the russia manages to nuke U.S. just once, where Nick Young lives
why bro? :confusedshrug:
KingBeasley08
08-11-2014, 10:55 AM
if ww3 erupts, i hope the russia manages to nuke U.S. just once, where Nick Young lives
Bulgaria, u mad :roll:
sorry brah but shit countries like yours are the ones that are getting hurt significantly
Clyde
08-11-2014, 11:49 AM
I hope all the stupid pro war kids in this thread get drafted.
Shit gets real, you'll all cry for mommy.
that being said, there won't be a world war 3.
Nick Young
08-11-2014, 01:38 PM
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we da bess
Nick Young
08-11-2014, 01:39 PM
I hope all the stupid pro war kids in this thread get drafted.
Shit gets real, you'll all cry for mommy.
that being said, there won't be a world war 3.
You are anti-war? Are you from Europe or something?:biggums:
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 01:39 PM
counting WW1 as a US win is like canada counting WW2 as their win.
THe US helped finish WW1 but we werent needed in WW1
Also: I think WW3 will start in asia.
It will be china's drive to acquire more resources in the south china sea, and the fact that the smaller countries in the region will be emboldened by their alliance with America.
Beijing will make the miscalculation that Washington wont respond to an attack on our allies. Eg. if china decides to resolve its territorial dispute with the philippines with naval force.
WW3 will also be a low intensity war. The American side will not try to invade mainland china. it will be fought in the seas.
If china and russia have been able to work its differences they might be able to work together, but I doubt this. Maybe they could form an alliance, where they fight in different theaters.
NumberSix
08-11-2014, 01:45 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
We wrecked Japan.
Japan wrecked Russia 1v1.
Years after WWII we wrecked Russia again in the Miracle on Ice and then in the cold war.
Rocky wrecked Ivan Drago.
Russia NEVER. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEERRR has come close to having the capability to "wreck" USA, disregarding nukes.
What's all this "we"? I thought you said you are from Egypt?
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 01:46 PM
Dawg you got it all wrong, its more like USA was Dirk and Russia was JJ Barrea. England can be like, Jason Terry:lol
The USSR was more responsible for defeating nazi germany than the US was.
The USSR contributed almost nothing to beating imperial japan doe.
Nick Young
08-11-2014, 01:50 PM
What's all this "we"? I thought you said you are from Egypt?
nope. never made that claim son. Stop making shit up.
I lived in Cairo for 2 years in highschool. I'm from California.
Clyde
08-11-2014, 02:02 PM
You are anti-war? Are you from Europe or something?:biggums:
you are a ****ing retard.
welcome to the ignore list
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 02:07 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
We wrecked Japan.
Japan wrecked Russia 1v1.
Years after WWII we wrecked Russia again in the Miracle on Ice and then in the cold war.
Rocky wrecked Ivan Drago.
Russia NEVER. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEERRR has come close to having the capability to "wreck" USA, disregarding nukes.
Germany meanwhile:
http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/German-troops-on-the-mrach.jpg
'Run Franz run! It's getting abit nippy and I forgot my coats and streudel! These peasants with one bullet are too much for me to handle!'
That French-like continental mentality:facepalm
Imperial Japan beat the russian empire in 1904.
- the largest victory was on the straits of tsushima where the imperial japanese navy (IJN) crushed the russian empire's fleet.
By WW2 things had greatly changed.
While the IJN was probably the second strongest navy on earth, the Imperial japanese army was hopelessly outdated.
Soviet T 34 tank
http://www.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/T34-85.jpg
Japenese tanks
http://worldwar2headquarters.com/images/tanksJapanese/type95.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_M50ZK8Q0ClI/S_y0xEyWfGI/AAAAAAAAGO8/nqJYeGCLH0o/s1600/Mar+19+2010+101.jpg
The soviets also had better artillery and machine guns. They has had more portable carbines.
IJA military tactics were also outdated. Eg. extensive bayonet training.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol
That was an early battle between the USSR and the IJA fought in 1939. The japanese high command realized how backward their army was. It was a big factor why they choose to pursue the southern strategy and use its navy to secure the dutch east indies and etc.
Japan being an island nation focused military development on their navy and naval air wings. Hitler hoped japan would open up a second front against the soviets. Japan realized how badly they would do once out of the range of the guns of their battleships and the range of their carrier air wings.
this was later proven when the soviets crushed them in manchuria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria
I agree though in WW2 the US was stronger than the USSR
russwest0
08-11-2014, 02:13 PM
http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/instantobamaosamameme.jpg
Yes, Obama killed Osama Bin Laden.... :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Also, where is any evidence whatsoever that he was killed. No photos, no body, no nothing. Hell, even the seal team that "killed" him had a bunch of people die from something not even related to the killing.
So yeah, we take the most wanted man in modern US history, kill him, and then INSTANTLY dump his body into the water leaving behind no evidence....
:facepalm You CANNOT be this dumb, can you?
NumberSix
08-11-2014, 02:16 PM
Yes, Obama killed Osama Bin Laden.... :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Also, where is any evidence whatsoever that he was killed. No photos, no body, no nothing. Hell, even the seal team that "killed" him had a bunch of people die from something not even related to the killing.
So yeah, we take the most wanted man in modern US history, kill him, and then INSTANTLY dump his body into the water leaving behind no evidence....
:facepalm You CANNOT be this dumb, can you?
Bin Laden has been dead since like 2005.
VIntageNOvel
08-11-2014, 02:16 PM
i dont like the odds in WW3, they would go against big 3 , china, north korea and russia (+all those muslim country)
russwest0
08-11-2014, 02:17 PM
Bin Laden has been dead since like 2005.
Yeah no shit. But apparently now "Obama killed him"
:facepalm
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 02:27 PM
i dont like the odds in WW3, they would go against big 3 , china, north korea and russia (+all those muslim country)
comparing North korea to russian and china:facepalm
Russia is also a declining country imo. their economy is dependant on the price of Oil. they manufacture very little. They are a well armed gas station.
Many muslim countries would side with the US in WW3. Maybe not the people, but the dictatorial governments.
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 02:29 PM
USA would have got wrecked by Russia
unlikely. the US would have established total air supremacy and bombed the shit out of their T-34 tanks.
Also on the seas it wouldn't have been close.
Nick Young
08-11-2014, 02:30 PM
i dont like the odds in WW3, they would go against big 3 , china, north korea and russia (+all those muslim country)
These guys would be nonfactors, plus the muslim countries wouldnt actually attack us because our government gives their governments so much money every year+buys their oil. If anything they'd provide our boys with aid+let us use their countries as military bases (see Pakistan, Kuwait, etc etc)
vs Russia and China, as long as we aren't invading them and have to play on their home court, we could easily take out. It wouldn't be a sweep but I'd call it a 4-1 US victory series, 4-2 if China and Russia play the game of their lives.
VIntageNOvel
08-11-2014, 02:31 PM
comparing North korea to russian and china:facepalm
Russia is also a declining country imo. their economy is dependant on the price of Oil. they manufacture very little. They are a well armed gas station.
Many muslim countries would side with the US in WW3. Maybe not the people, but the dictatorial governments.
kim jong un has been doing nothing aside from stocking nuke and training his people,
unlike USA soldier, they dont fear death, theyve been brainwashed, and most likely would resort to suicide bombing
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 02:35 PM
to make it more interesting
lets say russia sided with german and japan, and formed a big 3 ala heat
would the america team still won?
America would have defeated Japan in the south pacific.
Nazi germany and Soviet Union (WW2 era) didnt have an impressive navy. The IJN would still have lost to the USN
Without russia the prospects of re invading europe would have been difficult. I think eventually it would have reached an equilibrium where both nazi germany and the west would have survived.
Eg. The nazi could not have invaded england or starved it to death with american support. And america and britain would have had trouble opening a western front in europe.
The north african campaign goes largely the same way. Germany would be able to focus more forces into north africa though.
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 02:35 PM
kim jong un has been doing nothing aside from stocking nuke and training his people,
unlike USA soldier, they dont fear death, theyve been brainwashed, and most likely would resort to suicide bombing
technology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other factors when it comes to warfare.
hint: south korea alone would wreck north korea. they dont because it would anger the chinese and draw them in. Eg the korean war.
South korea doesnt conquer north korea, almost entirely out of concern about how china would react to an american ally closing in on its border.
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 02:40 PM
Britain so clever to leave their reserves out until late in the game to overwhelm the Germans :applause:
Thanks for being the backup plan USA
britain was a role player in WW2.
you guys contributed like ron artest did to the 2010 championship
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 02:47 PM
to make it more interesting
lets say russia sided with german and japan, and formed a big 3 ala heat
would the america team still won?
Russia did try to side with germany.
Hitler betrayed russia.
they had signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact on august 23, 1939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
Molotov was the soviet foreign minister
and ribbentrop was the nazi foreign minister.
Both Nazi germany and the USSR invaded poland and split it among themselves.
Hitler could never have worked long term with the USSR. He was an ardent anti communist and he believed slavic peoples were inferior. hitler would have been more likely to accept an alliance with england or america. He didnt see anglos as inferior and most white americans come from german heritage.
Nick Young
08-11-2014, 03:18 PM
britain was a role player in WW2.
you guys contributed like ron artest did to the 2010 championship
Britain did alright, I think it's safe to call them 2010 Derek Fisher level. Yes UK are scrubs but they stepped up big in a few key moments before allowing first option USA and second option USSR to carry them to glory.
CelticBaller
08-11-2014, 04:27 PM
Lol and people seem to forget how were surrounded by 2 seas and we have the strongest navy in the world. Nobody is touching the US
TheGreatBlaze
08-11-2014, 04:32 PM
Lol and people seem to forget how were surrounded by 2 seas and we have the strongest navy, marine corp, army, air force, spec ops, overall military power and influence and civilians armed to the teeth in the world. Nobody is touching the US
Fixed
fiddy
08-11-2014, 04:50 PM
Lol and people seem to forget how were surrounded by 2 seas and we have the strongest navy in the world. Nobody is touching the US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRyAIAM2-c
4.3 miles per second
TheGreatBlaze
08-11-2014, 04:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRyAIAM2-c
4.3 miles per second
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FZDotVYZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k6IloNu5z4
And we got some of our own too. And no one in the world can match our advanced precision and stealth technology.
MavsSuperFan
08-11-2014, 05:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRyAIAM2-c
4.3 miles per second
you're insane if you think russia could fight the US conventionally.
Russia would resort to asymmetric warfare against america.
CelticBaller
08-11-2014, 08:30 PM
Fixed
:applause:
not only that but our top secret stuff, who the hell can ****ing touch us? gtfo here :oldlol:
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