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dubeta
08-10-2014, 03:40 PM
What would you guy say?

GOAT scorer? Unstoppable offensively?

noob cake
08-10-2014, 03:41 PM
pipe dream

navy
08-10-2014, 03:42 PM
Troll thread as usual but, They would actually. Seeing as Kobe would have to average that with all the bad shots and midrange shots he takes.

JellyBean
08-10-2014, 03:45 PM
Great shooter with a scoring mentality.

TheMarkMadsen
08-10-2014, 03:45 PM
If they were getting the worst beat down in finals history in the process nobody would give a damn

NBAplayoffs2001
08-10-2014, 03:50 PM
What would you guy say?

GOAT scorer? Unstoppable offensively?

Spending his whole summer posting about LeBron instead of going outside to enjoy the outdoors as a teenager, what do you say?
:biggums:

TheGreatDeraj
08-10-2014, 06:33 PM
Those are just numbers they do not describe how he got them, so I would say one thing and one thing ONLY:

That if you take the number of points scored in the season divided by the number of games he played you get 27 and if you divide the total numbers of shots he took by the shots total number of shots that were made it would equal .57.

That's all I could possibly say.

SpecialQue
08-10-2014, 06:51 PM
OP's a moron who's basically the Ga

red1
08-10-2014, 07:02 PM
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]OP's a moron who's basically the [B]Ga

ArbitraryWater
08-10-2014, 07:04 PM
Kobe would be the GOAT Scorer while his teammates would be the WOAT supporting cast.

[QUOTE=SpecialQue]OP's a moron who's basically the [B]Ga

Yao Ming's Foot
08-10-2014, 07:09 PM
What was the defensive rating of the opposing team?

G-Funk
08-10-2014, 07:12 PM
What would you guy say?

GOAT scorer? Unstoppable offensively?
He's already unstoppable

sbw19
08-10-2014, 07:13 PM
Title no Q about it.

Poetry
08-10-2014, 07:21 PM
What would you guy say?

GOAT scorer? Unstoppable offensively?

LeBron played 80% of his minutes at the PF spot in the last 2 seasons, so I would say he's no Sir Charles.

Barkley:
28.3 points on .587 %

LeBron
27.1 points on .567 %

dubeta
08-10-2014, 07:44 PM
LeBron played 80% of his minutes at the PF spot in the last 2 seasons, so I would say he's no Sir Charles.

Barkley:
28.3 points on .587 %

LeBron
27.1 points on .567 %

Could barkley shoot 38% from the 3?

Poetry
08-10-2014, 07:54 PM
Could barkley shoot 38% from the 3?

Can Bron average 11.9 rebounds?

3ball
08-10-2014, 08:13 PM
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Top 5 Arguments for Jordan Over Lebron, both Physically and Skill-Wise:



1) Better hops off a vertical so he scored better in traffic (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40451964#p40451964)


2) Not just quick for his size, but true guard quickness for > mismatches vs. bigger defenders (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40452998#p40452998)


3) Goat scoring ability allowed MJ to take on the largest load and attract maximum defensive attention to free up teammates, while Lebron undertook too small a load in the 2014 Finals (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10441295&postcount=236), causing him to not attract enough defensive attention to facilitate his passing game and free up teammates - Lebron had as many turnovers as assists so his passing added no value to his team in the 2014 Finals.


4) Not only could Jordan take on the aforementioned maximum offensive load to attract maximum defensive attention and free up teammates, but his superior scoring versatility (including off-ball skill) (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40476428#p40476428) allowed him to take on that maximum load while scoring in whatever capacity allowed star teammates to play to their strengths (i.e. with Jordan off-ball, Pippen was free to be the more ball-dominant point-forward).


5) Factors 1-4 above enabled Jordan to control his own destiny better - translation: 6 for 6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10422919&postcount=9):



MJ TV:

Top 15 Hanging Jumpshots by MJ (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40750321#p40750321)

Top 15 MJ Dunks Over Multiple Contesting Defenders (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40414797#p40414797)

Partial Collection of MJ Dunks Over All-Time Great Centers (http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=40382395#p40382395)

MJ Hangtime Shots Off A One-Step Vertical (Drop-Step) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10422917&postcount=172)

MJ Two-Handed Posters Over Defenders (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10441991&postcount=40)
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dubeta
08-10-2014, 08:20 PM
Can Bron average 11.9 rebounds?

This discussion was about scoring :roll:

next

GrapeApe
08-10-2014, 08:42 PM
Could barkley shoot 38% from the 3?

Funny, because when people claim that guys like Kobe and Carmelo are better scorers than LeBron, his stans always point to his PPG and FG% and say that's all that matters. Why does the manner of scoring suddenly matter when comparing LeBron to Barkley?

dubeta
08-10-2014, 08:45 PM
Funny, because when people claim that guys like Kobe and Carmelo are better scorers than LeBron, his stans always point to his PPG and FG% and say that's all that matters. Why does the manner of scoring suddenly matter when comparing LeBron to Barkley?

Perimeter scorers should be compared together

Barkley should be grouped with Duncan, Malone, Amare


Heck, fine use True Shooting %

Lebron was 65%, was Barkley?
Kobes highest was 57-58%

GrapeApe
08-10-2014, 09:16 PM
Perimeter scorers should be compared together

Barkley should be grouped with Duncan, Malone, Amare


Heck, fine use True Shooting %

Lebron was 65%, was Barkley?
Kobes highest was 57-58%

The thing is, I actually AGREE that it doesn't matter how you score. You're only using the "perimeter scorer" spin to fit your current agenda. The same thing with TS%. The second Durant (or anyone) has a higher TS% you'll be trashing it as a statistic and claiming it's all because of gifted free throws. You LeBron stans are consistently inconsistent.

Poetry
08-10-2014, 09:34 PM
This discussion was about scoring :roll:

next

This is the title of your thread:

"Kobe fans - if kobe averaged 27 ppg on 57% shooting.."

I responded by posting Barkley's points and FG%, since that was what you posted in the title.

The only reason you later brought in 3-point percentage is because you weren't expecting Barkley to come up in this discussion. So you then brought in a 3rd requirement.


Perimeter scorers should be compared together

Barkley should be grouped with Duncan, Malone, Amare

But LeBron is a Power Forward now...so i brought Barkley into the conversation.

If he wants to play on the perimeter that's his prerogative, but he's a power forward.

Power Forwards should be compared to other Power Forwards.



Heck, fine use True Shooting %

Lebron was 65%, was Barkley?
Kobes highest was 57-58%

Lebron was at .649. Barkley was at .665.

Kobe is a shooting guard. LeBron has played Power Forward the last two seasons.

Is he a traditional PF? No. But neither was Barkley.

stalkerforlife
08-10-2014, 09:46 PM
No one cares about empty stats but Lebron and his stans.

dubeta
08-10-2014, 09:47 PM
No one cares about empty stats but Lebron and his stans.

No one cares about sidekick rings except Kobe and his stans

stalkerforlife
08-10-2014, 09:47 PM
If Lebron had won, he would have carried the 5th smallest load (proportion of team's shots) of any #1 option (team leader in shot attempts) in the last 25 years - so he would NOT have carried a big load, which is contrary to the current consensus.

Given that in the 2014 playoffs, the more a team scored per game against the Spurs, the smaller their disadvantage to the Spurs in Ortg - a larger load carried by Lebron, which was feasible by historical standards, was needed..

A larger load seems even more necessary when the Heat accomplished any shooting efficiency goal they had.. They easily shot the best of any Spurs opponent but still had the worst offense and the worst performance.

Ether.

/thread.

stalkerforlife
08-10-2014, 09:48 PM
No one cares about sidekick rings except Kobe and his stans

Winning is the ultimate goal, not stat stuffing.

dubeta
08-10-2014, 09:50 PM
Winning is the ultimate goal, not stat stuffing.

Horry > Kobe :applause:

Take the L little boy

GODbe
08-10-2014, 09:53 PM
I honestly wouldn't care. As long as he's getting the points in the same fashion he always does. And not stat padding FG% in garbage time, only taking layups, refusing to shoot, passing in the clutch to Kwame etc etc.

dubeta
08-10-2014, 09:57 PM
I honestly wouldn't care. As long as he's getting the points in the same fashion he always does. And not stat padding FG% in garbage time, only taking layups, refusing to shoot, passing in the clutch to Kwame etc etc.

So you didnt like it when Kobe dropped 81 on the raptors and when he didnt shoot in game 7 vs Phoenix?

stalkerforlife
08-10-2014, 09:58 PM
Horry > Kobe :applause:

Take the L little boy

Winning as the most important piece or very close to it.

Take the L, son.

BlkMambaGOAT
08-10-2014, 10:02 PM
I would jerk off to the fact that he became a submissive, whiny beta like Lebron. Luckily that will never happen.

dubeta
08-10-2014, 10:05 PM
I would jerk off to the fact that he became a submissive, whiny beta like Lebron. Luckily that will never happen.

whats the diff between you and Godbe

btw the "beta" is 2/7 Kobe Bean

selrahc
08-10-2014, 10:05 PM
if kobe shot 57% hed easily average over 40 ppg based on the way he plays... dumb question

dubeta
08-10-2014, 10:07 PM
if kobe shot 57% hed easily average over 40 ppg based on the way he plays... dumb question

Kobe averages 25 on 45%

only way he can shoot 57% is if he averaged 12 ppg and even then I'm not so sure :roll:

BlkMambaGOAT
08-10-2014, 10:08 PM
whats the diff between you and Godbe

btw the "beta" is 2/7 Kobe Bean
Godbe believes Kobe is a god, I believe Kobe is the Goat.
And Lebron is just a mere, steroid addicted peasant.

Straight_Ballin
08-10-2014, 11:06 PM
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]OP's a moron who's basically the Ga

jstern
08-11-2014, 12:10 AM
If Kobe averaged 27 ppg on 57% shooting, after missing almost a full season, coming back from really bad injuries, at the age of 36, then two things must have happened.

1. He somehow developed and intense concentration that no human in history could match, plus developed an insanely high basketball IQ all of a sudden. And the only reason why he's only scoring 27 ppg is because he's purposefully limiting his minutes.

2. There was a basketball conventions where all the NBA perimeter players, as well as others around the world attended, but Kobe, and something catastrophic happened. Like a massive and deep sinkhole. And instead of cancelling the season, the NBA replaced the players with whoever in the world was not under contract with another league.

COnDEMnED
08-11-2014, 12:31 AM
Can Bron average 11.9 rebounds?
This is the post that caused Beta to go full damage control. Side stepped like a mother ****er.

COnDEMnED
08-11-2014, 12:34 AM
whats the diff between you and Godbe

btw the "beta" is 2/7 Kobe Bean
The beta is the last 4 letters in your name. Beta

dreamwarrior
08-11-2014, 12:52 AM
It would only happen if he took PEDs gained a ton of muslce and switched over to the PF position. Compare Bryant and Lebron's and Wade's shooting from distances and you'll start to understand why Bryant doesn't shoot at a high FG% like Lebron

Kobe Lebron Wade
0-3ft .635 .726 .660
3-10ft .452 .438 .463
10-16ft .445 .359 .385
16<3 .406 .388 .390
3p .336 .341 .289

Kobe from 3-10ft shoots better than Lebron and is just a tad below Wade. From10-16ft he's money while Lebron and Wade can't even crack 40%. And from 16ft he's got them beat as well except for the 3pt shot. He takes over 70% of his shots from 10ft and further out while Wade and Lebron take 50% of their shots from 10ft and under. Kobe would be a .500 shooter if he didn't take so many 3pt shots in his career.

SamuraiSWISH
08-11-2014, 03:44 AM
What was the defensive rating of the opposing team?
Do players have as much energy to score when they're being worked on the other side of the ball by a great offensive team? Or does a quality of an opponent in totality not matter? Let me know ... basketball is played on both ends.