Lebron on 2014 Cavs is Most Stacked Team in NBA History

[BallsOut]

Top 2 SF - Lebron James
Top 3 PF - Kevin Love
Top 10 PG - Kyrie Irving
Top 2 6th man - Dion Waiters
Solid dependable veteran role players - Anderson Verajao, Tristian Thompson, Mike Miller, Shawn Marion, and Ray Allen

Lebron has no excuses if he doesn't win the championship this coming year with this team. On paper, the 2014 Cavs are the most stacked team in NBA history.

[dubeta]

Noone else respond to this thread and give it attention, let it die

Bran + scrubs is stacked?? :roll: :applause:

[Straight_Ballin]

Most stacked team of 2014 teams yes, but not in NBA history. That being said, Cavs should win it all. If not, then massive choke.

[JohnFreeman]

Bulls probably have a better team, and the Cavaliers are not even top 10 stacked teams all time.

[04mzwach]

:roll:

[Dengness9]

Noone else respond to this thread and give it attention, let it die

Bran + scrubs is stacked?? :roll: :applause:


You are most likely the biggest POS poster on this board, so no one is going to let anything die because you said so.

Bron stacked his team again, it is what it is.

[dubeta]

I dont think anyone has been expected to win with such marginal talent as LeBron is now

Heck not even the 2011 Mavs or Hakeem's Rockets were EXPECTED to win

Damn even the haters acknowledge LeBrons on another level

[JT123]

Reported. :sleeping

[miles berg]

Certainly the most talented team in years.

[Demitri98]

Solid dependable veteran role players - Anderson Verajao, Tristian Thompson, Mike Miller, Shawn Marion, and Ray Allen

Not a veteran. Young big man who's got some learning to do.

[Boarder Patrol]

Do people realize there are two sides to the game? LeBron is the only above average defender in that lineup, and he'll be conserving energy on D like he was last year (was above average but not great) since he's coming off 4 finals. And then Irving, Waiters and Love all blow on D.

I see them having a top 3 offense for sure but it wouldn't surprise me to see them in the bottom half of the league on D.

[sammichoffate]

Topics like these make me want to go to RealGM for god's sake :facepalm

[JohnFreeman]

Topics like these make me want to go to RealGM for god's sake :facepalm
reported

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Bulls, spurs, thunder and clippers are all more stacked.
It should be a great season though.

[Le Shaqtus]

Cavs have a lot of gelling to do, also their defense is a big question mark.

Even so, they'll probably take the first seed in the East off of talent alone.

[BallsOut]

Bron stacked his team again, it is what it is.

He can't win without playing with 2 other superstar franchise players. That's unprecedented. Wait that actually happened before when he teamed up with Wade and Bosh :lebronamazed:

[JohnFreeman]

Bosh was never a superstar

[dubeta]

LeBron never played with another superstar at any point in his career

[AintNoSunshine]

Kobe played with 3 other HOF, twice. Lebron is the only HOF on the team.:facepalm

[Kvnzhangyay]

Whats sad is OP is actually serious

[nzahir]

Lol how can they be the most stacked team of all time if they arent even the most talented team in the nba?

Chicago, Clippers, Okc; they are with the spurs on talent level.

Best player in the game, top 4 pf(bg, La, AD, and love..mixed around however you want it, I have it as BG/AD, love, and then LA), an arguable top ten pg(curry, cp3, westbrook, dragic, wall, rose, parker are for sure better; then guys like lowry, bledsoe, rondo, williams, conley, lillard), a good sg, maybe top ten but prob not. Decent role players in andy v, miller, thompson.

If they can add a big man who can help their defense out and get marion then they will shoot up to top 3; arguable top 1 depending on what big man they get.

[Dragic4Life]

Weak trolling.:sleeping

[NZStreetBaller]

kevin love kyrie irving wade and bosh were all in all star game last year. K love and Kyrie are 3 point contest winners.

But if lebron carries this team of scrubs to the gold. he is undoubtedly the great player ever. and we lebron stans must feel free to suck him off constantly.:bowdown:

[russwest0]

Absolutely the most stacked team ever relative to their conference.

[BallsOut]

Absolutely the most stacked team ever relative to their conference.

This

[GODbe]

Jordans Bulls are still #1 imo.

2. cHeat 2010-14
3. 14 Cavs

[russwest0]

Jordans Bulls are still #1 imo.

2. cHeat 2010-14
3. 14 Cavs

This Cavs team is more stacked than the Heat were. Outside of the big 3, they have THREE guys who would have been the fourth option on the 10-14 Heat. And that's not even including Miller, Marion, or Allen. The Cavaliers are LOADED.

[BallsOut]

Bosh was never a superstar

24/10 big man leading Toronto Raptors to playoffs on 3 separate occasions. Leading scorer for Team USA during one of the Olympics. When did you start watching basketball, 2013? :oldlol:

[Inferno]

Warriors can handle them...

Klay guards Kyrie, Steph on Dion, Iggy on Bron, Dray on Love, and Bogut on whoever the **** they play the C :confusedshrug:

[Beastmode88]

This Cavs team is more stacked than the Heat were. Outside of the big 3, they have THREE guys who would have been the fourth option on the 10-14 Heat. And that's not even including Miller, Marion, or Allen. The Cavaliers are LOADED.

":cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: My team roster sucks. It's not loaded but if we win it's all cause of lebron." -Every lebron stan on ISH.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Any team with LeBron is stacked. Lebron combined with a good player they become even better and deadlier.

[BallsOut]

This Cavs team is more stacked than the Heat were. Outside of the big 3, they have THREE guys who would have been the fourth option on the 10-14 Heat. And that's not even including Miller, Marion, or Allen. The Cavaliers are LOADED.

This. 2014 Cavs are the most stacked team of all time.

[dubeta]

If theyre stacked then how come none of them made the playoffs (outside of Bran) ?

[GrapeApe]

Any team with LeBron is stacked. Lebron combined with a good player they become even better and deadlier.

I wouldn't go that far, but if the Cavs are indeed stacked it's MAINLY because of LeBron. That's not to say Love and Irving aren't good/great players but nobody would be calling that team stacked with, say, Andre Iguodala or even healthy Paul George instead of LeBron.

[GODbe]

I wouldn't go that far, but if the Cavs are indeed stacked it's MAINLY because of LeBron. That's not to say Love and Irving aren't good/great players but nobody would be calling that team stacked with, say, Andre Iguodala or even healthy Paul George instead of LeBron.
http://cjzero.com/gifs/KobeFacepalmPinchNose.gif

Kyrie Irving
Dion Waiters
Paul George
Kevin Love
Anderson Varejao

Idk about you but to me that team looks even more stacked with Paul George's name there instead of LeBalds. He doesn't turn his teammates into spot up shooters, he's younger, and a better all around player (if we're talking before the leg snapped in half).

[LongLiveTheKing]

I wouldn't go that far, but if the Cavs are indeed stacked it's MAINLY because of LeBron. That's not to say Love and Irving aren't good/great players but nobody would be calling that team stacked with, say, Andre Iguodala or even healthy Paul George instead of LeBron.
Exactly it's mostly cause of LeBron that teams are stacked.

[VIP2000]

24/10 big man leading Toronto Raptors to playoffs on 3 separate occasions. Leading scorer for Team USA during one of the Olympics. When did you start watching basketball, 2013? :oldlol:

LOL, he averaged 24 and 10 in only one season and it was during a contract year and when his team didn't even make the playoffs. And he led the Raptors to 3 first round exits in the weak east.

Bosh is a star, but no superstar.

[GrapeApe]

Exactly it's mostly cause of LeBron that teams are stacked.

This is true and it's not exclusive to LeBron. It applies to any great player being discredited for playing on a stacked team. You have to account for and recognize that player as a part of the "stackedness". It's something that's often overlooked or outright ignored.

[hahaitme]

24/10 big man leading Toronto Raptors to playoffs on 3 separate occasions. Leading scorer for Team USA during one of the Olympics. When did you start watching basketball, 2013? :oldlol:


Top 2 SF - Lebron James
Top 3 PF - Kevin Love
Top 10 PG - Kyrie Irving
Top 2 6th man - Dion Waiters
Solid dependable veteran role players - Anderson Verajao, Tristian Thompson, Mike Miller, Shawn Marion, and Ray Allen

Lebron has no excuses if he doesn't win the championship this coming year with this team. On paper, the 2014 Cavs are the most stacked team in NBA history.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Step up your troll game, too many cracks

[Kingwillball]

http://cjzero.com/gifs/KobeFacepalmPinchNose.gif

Kyrie Irving
Dion Waiters
Paul George
Kevin Love
Anderson Varejao

Idk about you but to me that team looks even more stacked with Paul George's name there instead of LeBalds. He doesn't turn his teammates into spot up shooters, he's younger, and a better all around player (if we're talking before the leg snapped in half).


Wow u are pathetic.. Yeah PG is a better all around player keep trolling dude

[BlkMambaGOAT]

"They aren't the most stacked in history, but they are 1a and 1b with OKC in terms of stackness in todays' league" - An unbiased, objective NBA fan

[Megabox!]

http://cjzero.com/gifs/KobeFacepalmPinchNose.gif

Kyrie Irving
Dion Waiters
Paul George
Kevin Love
Anderson Varejao

Idk about you but to me that team looks even more stacked with Paul George's name there instead of LeBalds. He doesn't turn his teammates into spot up shooters, he's younger, and a better all around player (if we're talking before the leg snapped in half).
Soooo do you ppl like get paid to type stupid shit all day on these forums? Or do you actually believe in all of the retarded nonsense you post?

[BallsOut]

LOL, he averaged 24 and 10 in only one season and it was during a contract year and when his team didn't even make the playoffs. And he led the Raptors to 3 first round exits in the weak east.

Bosh is a star, but no superstar.

Enough with the semantics. Dude is getting paid superstar money by the Heat. Houston offered him the max as well. Bosh is a superstar and so is Wade. Lebron needed both of them in their prime to win titles. Let's not get that twisted. :no:

[Smoke117]

Not even close to one of the most stacked teams in HBA history.

[I<3NBA]

every team Lebron joins becomes stacked.

[russwest0]

every team Lebron joins becomes stacked.

Well that's probably because he only joins teams who would contend even without him.

[Jlamb47]

Definetly top 3 stacked team in 2014. Kyrie + Love + Lebron all were all stars with beast stats knid of like Wade and Bosh
Lebron is always blessed with good teamates. Win or bust

[Beastmode88]

Definetly top 3 stacked team in 2014. Kyrie + Love + Lebron all were all stars with beast stats knid of like Wade and Bosh
Lebron is always blessed with good teamates. Win or bust

Blessed is when a team is built around him, he colluded in both cases.

[russwest0]

I wouldn't go that far, but if the Cavs are indeed stacked it's MAINLY because of LeBron. That's not to say Love and Irving aren't good/great players but nobody would be calling that team stacked with, say, Andre Iguodala or even healthy Paul George instead of LeBron.

So Paul George took Hibbert and Stephenson to the first seed in the East, but pair him with Kyrie, Waiters, Love, Varejao, Marion, Miller, and Allen, and no one at all would be calling that team stacked?

:oldlol:

The shit some people say on ISH...

[Jlamb47]

Blessed is when a team is built around him, he colluded in both cases.

True hes a ring chaser

[edrick]

So Paul George took Hibbert and Stephenson to the first seed in the East, but pair him with Kyrie, Waiters, Love, Varejao, Marion, Miller, and Allen, and no one at all would be calling that team stacked?

:oldlol:

The shit some people say on ISH...

Hibbert was playing well until his meltdown. ****ing Paul George was considered a MVP candidate early on, and the Pacers were clearly the best in the East. Hibbert was a main reason they were winning, and when he started playing like shit, the Pacers started losing.

Translation, a big playing well helps teams win. who knew.

[I<3NBA]

Well that's probably because he only joins teams who would contend even without him.
So the Cavs before Lebron joined would contend? remember that Lebron joined before the Cavs knew they'd even get Love. so what you're saying is a team of Bennett, Wiggins, Irving, Waiters, Varejao would contend in the East. that's your point, right?

[FLDFSU]

Any team with LeBron is stacked. Lebron combined with a good player they become even better and deadlier.


:applause: What these idiots don't understand is every time they talk about how "stacked" the Heat were, or how "stacked" the Cavs will be, while Lebron leads the team in Points, Rebounds, Assists, plays the most minutes, leads in blocks, steals, runs the point, guards the most difficult matchups, while the offense flows through him...

is that they are VALIDATING the greatness of Lebron James.

Either Lebron is a GOD on the court leading his "most stacked roster in NBA history" in every significant offensive and defensive category...

OR

his team is not that "stacked" to begin with.

But let them drown in their own stupidity.

[russwest0]

So the Cavs before Lebron joined would contend? remember that Lebron joined before the Cavs knew they'd even get Love. so what you're saying is a team of Bennett, Wiggins, Irving, Waiters, Varejao would contend in the East. that's your point, right?

So he didn't know they were going to get Love but conveniently left Wiggins and Bennett out of his return letter while having already contacted Love?

:oldlol: Stahp.

He said 6 months ago he wasn't returning to Cleveland and their "cold winters" when asked about it. And then they got rewarded with the 1st overall pick and Wiggins, and then the door for a Love trade opened which led to a LeBron return.

[FLDFSU]

So he didn't know they were going to get Love but conveniently left Wiggins and Bennett out of his return letter while having already contacted Love?

:oldlol: Stahp.

He said 6 months ago he wasn't returning to Cleveland and their "cold winters" when asked about it. And then they got rewarded with the 1st overall pick and Wiggins, and then the door for a Love trade opened which led to a LeBron return.


So why didn't Melo go to the Cavs? Or Wade or Bosh? Why did Deng run out of Cleveland the first second he could?

Why was Cleveland's odd of winning a championship right after the finals ended 60/1?

Does Lebron have special advisors with magically powers that can see things that no other "Superstar" NBA vet, or their advisors, cannot see?

If Cleveland was sooo appealing/"so obvious" that they were a team bursting with talent and championship ability, why did Melo fly 1/2 around the world visiting teams but not once did his plane stop down in the "loaded" Cavs building?

Why did Love reject Cleveland's initial efforts to get him onto their roster?

[russwest0]

Why would the Cavaliers had kept Deng or went after Bosh if they were trying to get LeBron?

You aren't this stupid, are you?

[HurricaneKid]

Well that's probably because he only joins teams who would contend even without him.

Last year was the first season in LeBron's CAREER that his team outscored their opponents while he was off the floor.

Compare that to Kobe whose team was +8.6 pts/100 poss in 2001, a season many of his fans consider his breakout season. Or KD, whose team has outscored opponents by a fair amount four years running. Or DRose whose team outscored opponents by 6.1pts/100 poss.

So yeah, ITS LEBRON.

[ImKobe]

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[Roundball_Rock]

Last year was the first season in LeBron's CAREER that his team outscored their opponents while he was off the floor.

Compare that to Kobe whose team was +8.6 pts/100 poss in 2001, a season many of his fans consider his breakout season. Or KD, whose team has outscored opponents by a fair amount four years running. Or DRose whose team outscored opponents by 6.1pts/100 poss.

So yeah, ITS LEBRON.

This is interesting:

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/paine-datalab-lebronteammates-table.png?w=1545&h=912

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/these-cavs-could-be-lebrons-best-supporting-cast-ever/

The 2012, 2013 and 2014 Heat were in the red without LeBron under one of these measures.

[FLDFSU]

Why would the Cavaliers had kept Deng or went after Bosh if they were trying to get LeBron?

You aren't this stupid, are you?


Reading comprehension much?

Try to keep up:

Why didn't Deng try to STAY or Bosh try to GO to the "loaded" Cavs roster? Nobody said anything about Cavs pursing Deng or Bosh.

Your assertion is that Lebron "ran" to a "stacked" roster. The question is: why didn't other all-stars (Melo, Love, Bosh, Wade, Deng, etc.) see the Cavs as "stacked" like you contend Lebron did?

And beyond that, according to YOU Bosh is a superstar. YOUR words.

So pray tell, why wouldn't (even though that was not the question) the Cavs go after "Superstar" Bosh?

[pegasus]

Does Lebron have special advisors with magically powers that can see things that no other "Superstar" NBA vet, or their advisors, cannot see?

If Cleveland was sooo appealing/"so obvious" that they were a team bursting with talent and championship ability, why did Melo fly 1/2 around the world visiting teams but not once did his plane stop down in the "loaded" Cavs building?

Why did Love reject Cleveland's initial efforts to get him onto their roster?

You are a delusional retard if you don't think Lebron got some kind of confirmation that Love to Cavs was a strong possibility. Yes, he didn't know it would happen for sure, or that they would mesh well together, hence his contract with an opt-out clause after one year.

Melo didn't even go to Chicago, why should he have gone to Cleveland without even knowing what was going on behind the curtains with Love? Not everyone is trying to "buy" rings like Lebron. Melo chose loyalty and money over immediate contention. At least his intentions and actions are transparent.

And Bosh was just waiting for Lebron to get the hell out of town, so he could sign a max contract with the Heat and be the 1st option like the alpha boss that he is, instead of leaving for greener pastures like some insecure bitch.

[Wally450]

Well that's probably because he only joins teams who would contend even without him.

I didn't realize the Cavs were contenders without him.

[FLDFSU]

You are a delusional retard if you don't think Lebron got some kind of confirmation that Love to Cavs was a strong possibility. Yes, he didn't know it would happen for sure, or that they would mesh well together, hence his contract with an opt-out clause after one year.

Melo didn't even go to Chicago, why should he have gone to Cleveland without even knowing what was going on behind the curtains with Love? Not everyone is trying to "buy" rings like Lebron. Melo chose loyalty and money over immediate contention. At least his intentions and actions are transparent.

And Bosh was just waiting for Lebron to get the hell out of town, so he could sign a max contract with the Heat and be the 1st option like the alpha boss that he is, instead of leaving for greener pastures like some insecure bitch.


So Lebron knows what Love is promising before even Love does? That's impressive!!

Why didn't Love get confirmation that Lebron was going to Cleveland? I seem to remember Love rejecting the Cavs advances when the Cavs wanted to offer the number one pick for him.

What? Love doesn't have inside information on his own self? Lebron has magically powers that Love doesn't even know that he (Love) is promising himself to Cleveland?



As to Melo: What? Lebron is the ONLY one with inside information? Not even Melo or Wade or Bosh or Deng (all-stars) even knows what is going on behind the scenes? But somehow only Lebron is privy to such information? Only Lebron.

How much more does Lebron pay for these magically advisors that nobody else in the NBA has? Or is Lebron again-an all knowing God?

[HurricaneKid]

This is interesting:

http://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/paine-datalab-lebronteammates-table.png?w=1545&h=912

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/these-cavs-could-be-lebrons-best-supporting-cast-ever/

The 2012, 2013 and 2014 Heat were in the red without LeBron under one of these measures.

I don't love the methodology here but really interesting link. I think their bar for "replacement level player" is higher than many models as they use league avg rather than replacement player. But the point remains: joining Wade and Bosh was great but there was no one else on that roster to complete that team, especially once UD and Miller went down. By the time they brought in a team to support their key guys Wade (and Bosh to a lesser degree) were well on their way to the downslope of their careers. That Heat team never did really come together the way a lot of people expected; LeBron just carried them a long ways.

[FLDFSU]

You are a delusional retard if you don't think Lebron got some kind of confirmation that Love to Cavs was a strong possibility. Yes, he didn't know it would happen for sure, or that they would mesh well together, hence his contract with an opt-out clause after one year.

Melo didn't even go to Chicago, why should he have gone to Cleveland without even knowing what was going on behind the curtains with Love? Not everyone is trying to "buy" rings like Lebron. Melo chose loyalty and money over immediate contention. At least his intentions and actions are transparent.

And Bosh was just waiting for Lebron to get the hell out of town, so he could sign a max contract with the Heat and be the 1st option like the alpha boss that he is, instead of leaving for greener pastures like some insecure bitch.

Not even going to comment on the rest of that "delusional" paragraph, but I do have a question about the bolded:

Lebron left for greener pastures in Cleveland?

Okay, name me the other free agents (prior to Lebron) seeking to go the "greener passures" of Cleveland...

[edrick]

So he didn't know they were going to get Love but conveniently left Wiggins and Bennett out of his return letter while having already contacted Love?

:oldlol: Stahp.

He said 6 months ago he wasn't returning to Cleveland and their "cold winters" when asked about it. And then they got rewarded with the 1st overall pick and Wiggins, and then the door for a Love trade opened which led to a LeBron return.

So, the Cavs without LeBron would contend this year? :roll:

[BallsOut]

Blessed is when a team is built around him, he colluded in both cases.

Dude can't do it with just a single superstar, he always needs at least two. Joke :oldlol:

[dubeta]

LeBron is the only player on his team that is in the top 10 of his position

[fpliii]

LeBron is the only player on his team that is in the top 10 of his position
Why would you post this?

[BallsOut]

LeBron is the only player on his team that is in the top 10 of his position

PF:
1) Anthony Davis
2) Blake Griffin
3) Kevin Love
4) LaMarcus Aldridge
5) Chris Bosh
6) Dirk Nowitzki
7) Zach Randolph
8) Serge Ibaka
9) Andre Drummond
10) Paul Millsap

PG:
1) Chris Paul
2) Russell Westbrook
3) Derrick Rose (healthy)
4) Tony Parker
5) Damian Lillard
6) Goran Dragic
7) Stephen Curry
8) Rajon Rondo
9) John Wall
10) Kyrie Irving

:lebronamazed: