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robert_shaww
08-12-2014, 01:06 PM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Steve Nash
9. Shaquille Oneal
10. Allen Iverson
11. Jason Kidd
12. Ray Allen
13. Tony Parker
14. Kevin Durant
15. Paul Pierce
16. Chauncey Billups
17. Paul Gasol
18. Carmelo Anthony
19. Chris Bosh
20. Chris Webber
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Vince Carter
23. Dwight Howard
24. Yao Ming
25. Amare Stoudamire

longhornfan1234
08-12-2014, 01:13 PM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Steve Nash
9. Shaquille Oneal
10. Allen Iverson
11. Jason Kidd
12. Ray Allen
13. Tony Parker
14. Kevin Durant
15. Paul Pierce
16. Chauncey Billups
17. Paul Gasol
18. Carmelo Anthony
19. Chris Bosh
20. Chris Webber
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Vince Carter
23. Dwight Howard
24. Yao Ming
25. Amare Stoudamire


Manu over Wade. :lol

HurricaneKid
08-12-2014, 01:14 PM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Steve Nash
9. Shaquille Oneal
10. Allen Iverson
11. Jason Kidd
12. Ray Allen
13. Tony Parker
14. Kevin Durant
15. Paul Pierce
16. Chauncey Billups
17. Paul Gasol
18. Carmelo Anthony
19. Chris Bosh
20. Chris Webber
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Vince Carter
23. Dwight Howard
24. Yao Ming
25. Amare Stoudamire

You are going to take away 3 titles from Kobe and then say he is better than LeBron? You are bad at this.

#1 is LeBron, then out of respect for LeBron #2 and #3 are left blank. Then you can pick up at #4.

FWIW, Dirk is probably #4 (or second best on the list). Leaving off 2000-2004 chews up a big piece of KG, Kobe, and TDs prime.

robert_shaww
08-12-2014, 01:15 PM
Manu over Wade. :lol

yes. better passer. playmaker. clutch player. winner. 3 point shooter, IQ, and beat dwyane ass in the finals and in the olympics.

robert_shaww
08-12-2014, 01:16 PM
You are going to take away 3 titles from Kobe and then say he is better than LeBron? You are bad at this.

#1 is LeBron, then out of respect for LeBron #2 and #3 are left blank. Then you can pick up at #4.

FWIW, Dirk is probably #4 (or second best on the list). Leaving off 2000-2004 chews up a big piece of KG, Kobe, and TDs prime.

both have 2 titles, lebron and james. but kobe is clutch.

GODbe
08-12-2014, 01:17 PM
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kevin Durant
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Tim Duncan
6. Shaquille Oneal
7. Kevin Garnett
8. Jason Kidd
9. Allen Iverson
10. Tracey McGrady
11. Vince Carter
12. Carmelo Anthony
13. Paul Pierce
14. Ray Allen
15. Manu Ginobili
16. Tony Parker
17. Chauncey Billups
18. Steve Nash
19.Chris Webber
20. Chris Bosh
21. Amare Stoudemire
22. Yao Ming
23. Dwight Howard
24. Pau Gasol
25. LeBald Shames

GrapeApe
08-12-2014, 01:27 PM
yes. better passer. playmaker. clutch player. winner. 3 point shooter, IQ, and beat dwyane ass in the finals and in the olympics.

He's a better 3 point shooter. The rest of that post is false and the last comment is flat out stupid.

Lebronxrings
08-12-2014, 01:29 PM
lebron should be ahead of kobe.

Ginbobili and parker shouldn't be on this list considering they're system players.

GODbe
08-12-2014, 01:34 PM
lebron should be ahead of kobe.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/21e4tqb.jpg

Im so nba'd out
08-12-2014, 01:37 PM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Steve Nash
9. Shaquille Oneal
10. Allen Iverson
11. Jason Kidd
12. Ray Allen
13. Tony Parker
14. Kevin Durant
15. Paul Pierce
16. Chauncey Billups
17. Paul Gasol
18. Carmelo Anthony
19. Chris Bosh
20. Chris Webber
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Vince Carter
23. Dwight Howard
24. Yao Ming
25. Amare Stoudamire
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1199581/kdsad.gif

KD would be way higher on my list

riseagainst
08-12-2014, 01:38 PM
http://oi60.tinypic.com/21e4tqb.jpg

:roll:

Beastmode88
08-12-2014, 01:38 PM
lebron should be ahead of kobe.

Ginbobili and parker shouldn't be on this list considering they're system players.

Then Jason Terry would be #1 if we follow your logic. :lol

K Xerxes
08-12-2014, 01:40 PM
http://oi60.tinypic.com/21e4tqb.jpg

Someone needs to sort out the editing on that one - not as good as the Kobe one right now but has potential. :applause:

BlkMambaGOAT
08-12-2014, 01:43 PM
http://oi60.tinypic.com/21e4tqb.jpg
Ma niqqa...:applause: :applause: :applause:

tmacattack33
08-12-2014, 01:43 PM
If this starts at 2004 then Lebron is number one.

robert_shaww
08-12-2014, 01:45 PM
If this starts at 2004 then Lebron is number one.

why, tell me.

EnoughSaid
08-12-2014, 01:45 PM
I'll do the top 5 for you:

1. Timmy Duncan
2. LeBron James
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Dirk Nowitzki

robert_shaww
08-12-2014, 01:50 PM
I'll do the top 5 for you:

1. Timmy Duncan
2. LeBron James
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Dirk Nowitzki

:facepalm

tmacattack33
08-12-2014, 01:53 PM
why, tell me.

Duncan's last few years were worse than Lebron's first few years in this time period.

And in between, Lebron was better. Duncan's peak was 2003.

Same for Kobe. He wasn't even on the court in 2014, and in 2011 and 2012 he was pretty weak.

And by starting at 2004 you just took 3 rings away from Kobe and 2 from Duncan.

Young X
08-12-2014, 01:53 PM
How are Bosh, Gasol, Billups, Anthony, Parker, Yao, Manu better than Chris Paul? He should be top 10.

ninephive
08-12-2014, 02:04 PM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Steve Nash
9. Shaquille Oneal
10. Allen Iverson
11. Jason Kidd
12. Ray Allen
13. Tony Parker
14. Kevin Durant
15. Paul Pierce
16. Chauncey Billups
17. Paul Gasol
18. Carmelo Anthony
19. Chris Bosh
20. Chris Webber
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Vince Carter
23. Dwight Howard
24. Yao Ming
25. Amare Stoudamire
Not sure if this is a serious list because Durant is at 14, but if so Manu is way too high. He has literally zero case over Parker, much less Wade or Shaq or other FMVPs.

GrapeApe
08-12-2014, 02:27 PM
I'll do the top 5 for you:

1. Timmy Duncan
2. LeBron James
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Dirk Nowitzki

LeBron has a case for number 1 IMO, but yeah, those are the top 5.

Lebronxrings
08-12-2014, 02:30 PM
http://oi60.tinypic.com/21e4tqb.jpg
negged.

Jlamb47
08-12-2014, 02:30 PM
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Steve Nash
9. Shaquille Oneal
10. Allen Iverson
11. Jason Kidd
12. Ray Allen
13. Tony Parker
14. Kevin Durant
15. Paul Pierce
16. Chauncey Billups
17. Paul Gasol
18. Carmelo Anthony
19. Chris Bosh
20. Chris Webber
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Vince Carter
23. Dwight Howard
24. Yao Ming
25. Amare Stoudamire



Great top 3 :applause:

Beastmode88
08-12-2014, 02:33 PM
negged.

Idiot links the Kobe equivalent version but isn't mad. Double standards as always, negged.

K Xerxes
08-12-2014, 02:42 PM
1) LeBron - average 28-7-7, 4 MVPS, 2 rings, 2 FMVPs

2) Kobe - average 28-6-5, 1 MVP, 2 rings, 2 FMVPs

3) Dirk - average 24-8-3, 1 MVP, 1 ring, 1 FMVP

4) Duncan - average 18-11-3, 3 rings, 1 FMVP

5) Wade - average 24-5-6, 3 rings, 1 FMVP

I don't particularly think there should be any question about the top 3 or their order. 4 and 5 are pretty close but I give the nod to Duncan for his defense and that he clearly led his team 2 rings in that time span. I can see an argument for Garnett at number 5 too.

kennethgriffin
08-12-2014, 03:30 PM
lol wtf didnt duncans prime end in like 2005

how is he #1

kobes prime was 2006-2010.

duncan has 3 rings but he was out performed by ginobili in 2005, ( 20ppg on 60% to duncans 20ppg on 40% ).. then duncan was outperformed by finals mvp tony parker. then out performed by kawhi leonard and tony parker for his last ring.

kobe atleast had the alpha lead dog role for his last 2 titles. even lebrons 2 asterisk titles beat duncans last 3

riseagainst
08-12-2014, 03:32 PM
1) LeBron - average 28-7-7, 4 MVPS, 2 rings, 2 FMVPs

2) Kobe - average 28-6-5, 1 MVP, 2 rings, 2 FMVPs

3) Dirk - average 24-8-3, 1 MVP, 1 ring, 1 FMVP

4) Duncan - average 18-11-3, 3 rings, 1 FMVP

5) Wade - average 24-5-6, 3 rings, 1 FMVP

I don't particularly think there should be any question about the top 3 or their order. 4 and 5 are pretty close but I give the nod to Duncan for his defense and that he clearly led his team 2 rings in that time span. I can see an argument for Garnett at number 5 too.

dam.... cutting out his Shaq years really makes his stats shine.

robert_shaww
08-12-2014, 03:32 PM
1) LeBron - average 28-7-7, 4 MVPS, 2 rings, 2 FMVPs

2) Kobe - average 28-6-5, 1 MVP, 2 rings, 2 FMVPs

3) Dirk - average 24-8-3, 1 MVP, 1 ring, 1 FMVP

4) Duncan - average 18-11-3, 3 rings, 1 FMVP

5) Wade - average 24-5-6, 3 rings, 1 FMVP

I don't particularly think there should be any question about the top 3 or their order. 4 and 5 are pretty close but I give the nod to Duncan for his defense and that he clearly led his team 2 rings in that time span. I can see an argument for Garnett at number 5 too.


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Mr Know It All
08-12-2014, 05:42 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Duncan averaged 20ppg exactly once since 2006. He is a system player. Granted, a remarkably reliable and talented system player, but a system player nonetheless.