Duncan final stats in 2003 underrated

[Jlamb47]

=Tim Duncan in the FINALS put up

24.2 PPG 17 RPG 5.3 APG 1 SPG 5.3 BPG on 50FG%

Thats beast stats on both ends of the floor
Most underrated finals ever

He was getting buckets , rebounding and making plays for his team, as well as ELITE defense.

Second leading scorer was tony parker on 14 PPG he was averaging 10 more points then the second scorer.

He also held Kenyon Martin to 34FG%

GOAT PF :bowdown:

I dont think Lebron has a Finals better then this, neither do Kobe
he played stupid good on both ends

[Lebronxrings]

pop you the real mvp :applause:

[Jlamb47]

pop you the real mvp :applause:

Lol in 2003??

thats how i know you dont know sh1t about basketball go to a Lebron vs kobe thread or go diss KD somewhere so you can make your favorite player look like GOD

[navy]

Kenyon Martin?

:roll:

[ImKobe]

Against the lowly nets that Kobe and Shaq humiliated the prior season

Shaq put up 36/12/4 with 2.8 bpg on 60% shooting in the 2002 Finals, wow

Nets must have really sucked at protecting the rim

[riseagainst]

yeah. Definitely his best finals/playoff run. But then again, they did play the Nets.

[aj1987]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309538

[Jlamb47]

Yea the Nets, yal talking trash on them, but they were beating yals favorite teams to get to the finals

Obviously they werent that sucky if they made the finals twice in a row/

Yes Shaq did dominate but only thing he got on Duncan was points

duncan had more rebounds/assist and blocks and he his second scoring option was a rookie parker

While Shaq had Kobe

[Jlamb47]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309538

Good threa it was made a year ago lol
i wasnt gonna go search it

everyone underrates Duncan

wanna bring up shaq like Duncan stats werent better

[Lebronxrings]

:facepalm kenyon martin dude seriously

[Jlamb47]

:facepalm kenyon martin dude seriously

Duncan beat Lebron twice in the finals

whats your excuse for that??

"Lebron James dude seriously"

[ImKobe]

Duncan beat Lebron twice in the finals

whats your excuse for that??

"Lebron James dude seriously"

yes

[Lebronxrings]

Duncan beat Lebron twice in the finals

whats your excuse for that??

"Lebron James dude seriously"
who was the mvp in both cases again?

[Jlamb47]

who was the mvp in both cases again?

Not Lebron LOL :lol

[aj1987]

Not Lebron LOL :lol
Honestly, Duncan had MUCH better teams in both the Finals (not even close).

Let's stick to talking about the '03 Finals though.

[dubeta]

Both Duncan and Shaqs finals numbers from 2000-2007 are overrated due to feasting on scrub teams

[Milbuck]

I have this as the 2nd best finals performance since MJ, after peak Shaq..grouping all those 3-peat finals together.

I'd honestly take 2001-2003 Duncan over any version of Lebron/Kobe/Durant/Wade/etc to build around..he was just everything you wanted out of a franchise player, mostly because he could elevate the team and everyone's game on both ends of the floor in a way no one has been able to do in a long time.

Scary to think what 2003 Duncan would've been able to do if he had Manu and TP in their primes at that time..

[Jlamb47]

I have this as the 2nd best finals performance since MJ, after peak Shaq..grouping all those 3-peat finals together.

I'd honestly take 2001-2003 Duncan over any version of Lebron/Kobe/Durant/Wade/etc to build around..he was just everything you wanted out of a franchise player, mostly because he could elevate the team and everyone's game on both ends of the floor in a way no one has been able to do in a long time.

I thank you for this.

[Jlamb47]

Both Duncan and Shaqs finals numbers from 2000-2007 are overrated due to feasting on scrub teams

Lebron lost 3 times in the Finals.

STFU no one cares what you say cuz you talk stupid to make Lebron look good

[dubeta]

Half of Duncan's success is just from Pop' masterful offensive schemes

Take that away and you have your generic 20/10 player that's a dime a dozen (zach Randolph, Demarcus cousins etc)

Good player not great :cheers:

[aj1987]

I have this as the 2nd best finals performance since MJ, after peak Shaq..grouping all those 3-peat finals together.

I'd honestly take 2001-2003 Duncan over any version of Lebron/Kobe/Durant/Wade/etc to build around..he was just everything you wanted out of a franchise player, mostly because he could elevate the team and everyone's game on both ends of the floor in a way no one has been able to do in a long time.

Scary to think what 2003 Duncan would've been able to do if he had Manu and TP in their primes at that time..
Magic, Wade, and Bird had some good Finals as well. Comparable to the '03 Finals. LeBron had an EPIC Playoff run in '12, not just the Finals, BTW. '01-'03 Duncan was EPIC, but lets not act like he was significantly better than LeBron or Wade or Kobe. Those guys pretty good as well.

[Jlamb47]

Half of Duncan's success is just from Pop' masterful offensive schemes

Take that away and you have your generic 20/10 player that's a dime a dozen (zach Randolph, Demarcus cousins etc)

Good player not great :cheers:

Still lost less finals then Lebron and went less times

[Mr Feeny]

=Tim Duncan in the FINALS put up

24.2 PPG 17 RPG 5.3 APG 1 SPG 5.3 BPG on 50FG%

Thats beast stats on both ends of the floor
Most underrated finals ever

He was getting buckets , rebounding and making plays for his team, as well as ELITE defense.

Second leading scorer was tony parker on 14 PPG he was averaging 10 more points then the second scorer.

He also held Kenyon Martin to 34FG%

GOAT PF :bowdown:

I dont think Lebron has a Finals better then this, neither do Kobe
he played stupid good on both ends
Aww the Kobe fan playing his bit now

[Jlamb47]

Aww the Kobe fan playing his bit now

you seem fruity
what men uses aww?
f4g

[Mr Feeny]

you seem fruity
what men uses aww?
f4g

Awww Kobe fan has his panties in a bunch....

I agree that Duncan's 2003 is better than any season, playoff, or finals run Kobe ever had.

Also,
3 fmvps 》 2
2 mvps》 1 in 17 seasons
Very nice.

[Milbuck]

Magic, Wade, and Bird had some good Finals as well. Comparable to the '03 Finals. LeBron had an EPIC Playoff run in '12, not just the Finals, BTW. '01-'03 Duncan was EPIC, but lets not act like he was significantly better than LeBron or Wade or Kobe. Those guys pretty good as well.
Definitely, we're talking a pretty small difference. Offensively all 3 of Lebron/Kobe/Wade were probably better, and I wasn't counting Bird/Magic, just post-MJ players. The thing that tips it to Duncan's favor for me over the modern era perimeter guys was his defensive impact those couple years in his peak, which I don't think anyone except peak KG has approached in the past 15-18 years since the 90s centers.

[DonDadda59]

Kenyon Martin?

:roll:

Kenyon was a damn good defensive PF, strong/athletic as hell too.

Plus...

Boris Diaw :roll:

[SexSymbol]

Nets vere a very good team, and Keyon Martin was a very good player, you're underrating them for unknown reasons

[Jlamb47]

Awww Kobe fan has his panties in a bunch....

I agree that Duncan's 2003 is better than any season, playoff, or finals run Kobe ever had.

Also,
3 fmvps 》 2
2 mvps》 1 in 17 seasons
Very nice.

Name 10 players in NBA HISTORY that done that.
you cant f4g
you mentioned Kobe....knew you were a Lebron stan

2/5 very nice

[Jlamb47]

Nets vere a very good team, and Keyon Martin was a very good player, you're underrating them for unknown reasons

If Lebron played the 02-03 Nets they would be GOAT team

[Mr Feeny]

Name 10 players in NBA HISTORY that done that.
you cant f4g
you mentioned Kobe....knew you were a Lebron stan

2/5 very nice

Awwww u seem shook.

So we agree that Duncan and Lebrob are multipletime MVP and finals MVP winners while Kobe has a solitary MVP in 17 years?
Ok.
Mhmmm.
Really nice.

[Jlamb47]

Awwww u seem shook.

So we agree that Duncan and Lebrob are multipletime MVP and finals MVP winners while Kobe has a solitary MVP in 17 years?
Ok.
Mhmmm.
Really nice.

Duncan > Kobe and Lebron

2/5

[aj1987]

Definitely, we're talking a pretty small difference. Offensively all 3 of Lebron/Kobe/Wade were probably better, and I wasn't counting Bird/Magic, just post-MJ players. The thing that tips it to Duncan's favor for me over the modern era perimeter guys was his defensive impact those couple years in his peak, which I don't think anyone except peak KG has approached in the past 15-18 years since the 90s centers.
:cheers:

Do not really disagree with anything you said, except for the fact that Wade ('09-
11), Kobe ('01-'03), and LeBron ('09-'12 -- minus the '11 Finals, obviously) were damn good defensively as well. Not TD good, but good nonetheless.

[Mr Feeny]

If Lebron played the 02-03 Nets they would be GOAT team

Aww but this choker somehow beat the Spurs in 2013 and put up 37 in game 7.

[riseagainst]

Aww but this choker somehow beat the Spurs in 2013 and put up 37 in game 7.

Ray Allen definitely gets 99% of the credit. Bosh gets the other 1% for the offensive rebound.

[Mr Feeny]

Duncan > Kobe and Lebron

2/5

Duncan> Kobe?
Okay!

What's with the 2,5 thing btw? Am i supposed to give a shyza about that. Im not a James fan lmao.

Mmkay

[Mr Feeny]

Ray Allen definitely gets 99% of the credit. Bosh gets the other 1% for the offensive rebound.

Ouch another shook Kobe fan.

[Jlamb47]

Aww but this choker somehow beat the Spurs in 2013 and put up 37 in game 7.

Ray Allen bailed yo boy out.

Explain 07 when Lebron didnt even win 1 game

explain 14 when Lebron only won 1 game ?

[Jlamb47]

Duncan> Kobe?
Okay!

What's with the 2,5 thing btw? Am i supposed to give a shyza about that. Im not a James fan lmao.

Mmkay

you talk like a female

go to a WNBA forum, youl fit better

[riseagainst]

Ouch another shook Kobe fan.

nah, just an objective fan of lebron. Not some d1ckrider like you.

[Mr Feeny]

Ray Allen bailed yo boy out.

Explain 07 when Lebron didnt even win 1 game

explain 14 when Lebron only won 1 game ?

My boy Zack? Mmm err...ok

[Mr Feeny]

you talk like a female

go to a WNBA forum, youl fit better

Awww too too easy. Later kobtard.

[dh144498]

nah, just an objective fan of lebron. Not some d1ckrider like you.

:applause:

[Jlamb47]

My boy Zack? Mmm err...ok


Who the **** is zack

[Jlamb47]

:lol
nah, just an objective fan of lebron. Not some d1ckrider like you.

[Mr Feeny]

Who the **** is zack

My boy. What does Ray Allen have to do with him?

[Mr Feeny]

nah, just an objective fan of lebron. Not some d1ckrider like you.

Thou soundeth shook.

[Jlamb47]

My boy. What does Ray Allen have to do with him?

lol ok

[aj1987]

Ray Allen bailed yo boy out.

Explain 07 when Lebron didnt even win 1 game

explain 14 when Lebron only won 1 game ?
When LeBron beat the Spurs, he the FMVP. Duncan? How many FMVP's did he win against LeBron, since nobody bailed him out?

I ****ing hate doing this. Can you stop that shit and just talk about the LEGENDARY '03 Finals?

[Jlamb47]

When LeBron beat the Spurs, he the FMVP. Duncan? How many FMVP's did he win against LeBron, since nobody bailed him out?

I ****ing hate doing this. Can you stop that shit and just talk about the LEGENDARY '03 Finals?

My bad homie i hear you on it, im not taking anything from Lebron.
03 finals is underrated all these Lebron stans just coming in talking crap

[riseagainst]

Thou soundeth shook.

the words of defeat. No shame in losing.
:cheers:

[aj1987]

My bad homie i hear you on it, im not taking anything from Lebron.
03 finals is underrated all these Lebron stans just coming in talking crap
Ignore those ******s. Lets get back to the 24/17/5/5/1 series.

Timmy with 21/20/10/8:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nejQMtkyLgY

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[riseagainst]

Ignore those ******s. Lets get back to the 24/17/5/5/1 series.

Timmy with 21/20/10/8:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nejQMtkyLgY

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


fuq.....

:bowdown:

[Jlamb47]

Ignore those ******s. Lets get back to the 24/17/5/5/1 series.

Timmy with 21/20/10/8:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nejQMtkyLgY

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Yes good lord!!! :bowdown:

I member looking at ESPN top 3 FINALS game

it was
1.MJ
2.Dwade in 06
3.This game by Duncan

i cant member if Duncan was 2 or 3
it was either him or Wade

[T_L_P]

Half of Duncan's success is just from Pop' masterful offensive schemes

Take that away and you have your generic 20/10 player that's a dime a dozen (zach Randolph, Demarcus cousins etc)

Good player not great :cheers:

People were calling the Spurs offense the most basic in the league. Stop making things up.

[riseagainst]

Yes good lord!!! :bowdown:

I member looking at ESPN top 3 FINALS game

it was
1.MJ
2.Dwade in 06
3.This game by Duncan

i cant member if Duncan was 2 or 3
it was either him or Wade

:roll:

this is how you know MJ is the GOAT. We don't even list out a year or a specific game for him as a top performance. It's just "MJ".

:bowdown:

[Jlamb47]

:roll:

this is how you know MJ is the GOAT. We don't even list out a year or a specific game for him as a top performance. It's just "MJ".

:bowdown:

MJ is GOAT. I dont member the game he had too many great ones

[aj1987]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWqsbANx6g

32 Points, 20 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 7 Blocks, and 3 mother****ing steals!

[Jlamb47]

:eek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWqsbANx6g

32 Points, 20 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 7 Blocks, and 3 mother****ing steals!

[T_L_P]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWqsbANx6g

32 Points, 20 Rebounds, 6 Assists, 7 Blocks, and 3 mother****ing steals!

Best statistical game in the Finals from 1985 onward. :bowdown:

[SCdac]

the flood of haters means Duncan's done something right

[Crown&Coke]

Nets must have really sucked at protecting the rim

Jason Collins lets anything get in the hole bruh

[rmt]

Half of Duncan's success is just from Pop' masterful offensive schemes

Take that away and you have your generic 20/10 player that's a dime a dozen (zach Randolph, Demarcus cousins etc)

Good player not great :cheers:

It's only in the past 2 year that there's been this emphasis on ball movement. You must have forgotten the years when the offense was throw it in to Duncan in the post. And sure lots of players can lead their team in points, rebounds, assists and blocks (24.7 pts / 15.4 rebs / 5.3 assets / 3.3 blks 52.9%) with two second year players and a rookie as their 2nd, 3rd and 4th options (sarcasm).

Duncan's 03 run would be akin to Lebron leading the current CAVS (with their young, inexperienced players) WITHOUT LOVE to a championship next year - not happening.

[Big#50]

The POP system. LOL
Duncan is one of the greatest college players ever. He would have been the first pick after his sophmore year. He was the most NBA ready big since Walton. He had the most blocks in ncaa history. Now broken by players that played in weak conferences. He averaged 20/14/3 on 60% in his senior year. WTF had Pop done at the time?
In 03 the Nets had the best defense. Their interior defense was physical as hell. They had an abundance of bigs. The Spurs whole system was throw it in to Duncan. He was the system.

[Lebronxrings]

put gasol in duncans situation they win just as much. :confusedshrug:

[T_L_P]

put gasol in duncans situation they win just as much. :confusedshrug:

And yet you condoned the thread that said the players with the highest PER had the most impact. Hard to keep track of your thoughts?

[KOBE143]

I think Kobe finals performance against the Nets was more impressive.. The 02 and 03 Nets was known for their great perimeter defense and not for their interior defense because they sucks big time.. The reason Shaq and Duncan dominated them.. Their perimeter defense was one of the best all time and the reason why they made the finals 2 in row.. Most of the best perimeter player in the league that time played in the east (Tmac, Carter, AI, Allen, Pierce, etc.) and all of them struggle against the Nets.. I think any all time great perimeter players would struggle against them with the exemption of Kobe because Kobe destroyed them easily in the finals and thats why Kobe finals performance is by far more impressive than Duncan and Shaq..

[T_L_P]

I think Kobe finals performance against the Nets was more impressive.. The 02 and 03 Nets was known for their great perimeter defense and not for their interior defense because they sucks big time.. The reason Shaq and Duncan dominated them.. Their perimeter defense was one of the best all time and the reason why they made the finals 2 in row.. Most of the best perimeter player in the league that time played in the east (Tmac, Carter, AI, Allen, Pierce, etc.) and all of them struggle against the Nets.. I think any all time great perimeter players would struggle against them with the exemption of Kobe because Kobe destroyed them easily in the finals and thats why Kobe finals performance is by far more impressive than Duncan and Shaq..

George Lynch and David Wesley were the best Hornets in their series. Not Davis (a PF). Reggie Miller averaged 24 PPG on .631 TS% against them at 36 years old. Sam Cassell would play quite well against them. Richard Hamilton was probably the best Piston against them. When Pierce met the Nets in 03, he averaged 29/9/8/3/1 on .559 TS%.

Stop making shit up. They were known for their interior defense, because they had three or four very capable defensive bigs, including the DPOY (one year removed).

And circumstance isn't everything. From a statistical standpoint, Kobe doesn't come close to Shaq or Duncan. They were being doubled and trippled at the touch, whilst Kobe didn't receive nearly as much defensive attention.

Shaq's and Duncan's Finals were better. Only a Kobe stan (fitting) would think otherwise. Shaq scored 10 more PPG on better efficiency. That alone makes his Finals far better. :oldlol:

Duncan was grabbing more boards, dishing out more assists, grabbing more available steals and blocks, turning the ball over less, and doing it whilst being the only great offensive option on his team (Parker and Jackson were bad in the Finals). Kobe had a guy on his team averaging 35 a game. They were much more worried about him than Kobe.

[Big#50]

George Lynch and David Wesley were the best Hornets in their series. Not Davis (a PF). Reggie Miller averaged 24 PPG on .631 TS% against them at 36 years old. Sam Cassell would play quite well against them. Richard Hamilton was probably the best Piston against them. When Pierce met the Nets in 03, he averaged 29/9/8/3/1 on .559 TS%.

Stop making shit up. They were known for their interior defense, because they had three or four very capable defensive bigs, including the DPOY (one year removed).

And circumstance isn't everything. From a statistical standpoint, Kobe doesn't come close to Shaq or Duncan. They were being doubled and trippled at the touch, whilst Kobe didn't receive nearly as much defensive attention.

Shaq's and Duncan's Finals were better. Only a Kobe stan (fitting) would think otherwise. Shaq scored 10 more PPG on better efficiency. That alone makes his Finals far better. :oldlol:

Duncan was grabbing more boards, dishing out more assists, grabbing more available steals and blocks, turning the ball over less, and doing it whilst being the only great offensive option on his team (Parker and Jackson were bad in the Finals). Kobe had a guy on his team averaging 35 a game. They were much more worried about him than Kobe.
shhh let the Stan tell his tales.

[D-FENS]

Against the lowly nets that Kobe and Shaq humiliated the prior season

Shaq put up 36/12/4 with 2.8 bpg on 60% shooting in the 2002 Finals, wow

Nets must have really sucked at protecting the rim

Jason Collins let anyone put it in the hole.

[D-FENS]

Jason Collins lets anything get in the hole bruh

Dammit!

[Stringer Bell]

Jason Collins lets anything get in the hole bruh

:oldlol: :roll:

[Dragic4Life]

Not impressed to be honest.

[T_L_P]

Not impressed to be honest.

Second highest PER in the Finals post merger, easily better than any of LeBron's showings.

I thought you would have loved it.

[Jlamb47]

Not impressed to be honest.

Then your probably not impressed with any of Lebrons finals