Carmelo got robbed of ROY 2003

[NBAplayoffs2001]

The truth.
Srs.

[Kvnzhangyay]

This is actually true

[Shep]

fk off. srs.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

fk off. srs.

LeBron stan?

[Smook A.]

Melo - 21 ppg/6.1 rpg/2.8 apg/1.2 spg on 42.6% shooting
- Team Record: 43-39
- Made the playoffs; Lost in the 1st round

LeBron - 20.9 ppg/5.5 rpg/5.9 apg/1.6 spg on 41.7% shooting
- Team Record: 35-47
- Missed the playoffs

1) Stats: Scoring was even. Carmelo averaged more rebounds but LeBron averaged more assists & steals. Carmelo also shot better, but only by .9%... so not really much of a difference. Overall, LeBron had better all-around stats and in addition, he became the 3rd player in the NBA history to average 20/5/5 as a rookie (At the time)

2) Team success: Denver obviously won more games, but how many wins did they improve by? 26. On the other hand, Cleveland improved their record by 18 wins, so Denver improved more.

In the end, I do feel Melo should've won the ROY award mainly because he led his to the playoffs as a rookie and LeBron didn't.

[305Baller]

Melo - 21 ppg/6.1 rpg/2.8 apg/1.2 spg on 42.6% shooting
- Team Record: 43-39
- Made the playoffs; Lost in the 1st round

LeBron - 20.9 ppg/5.5 rpg/5.9 apg/1.6 spg on 41.7% shooting
- Team Record: 35-47
- Missed the playoffs

1) Stats: Scoring was even. Carmelo averaged more rebounds but LeBron averaged more assists & steals. Carmelo also shot better, but only by .9%... so not really much of a difference. Overall, LeBron had better all-around stats and in addition, he became the 3rd player in the NBA history to average 20/5/5 as a rookie (At the time)

2) Team success: Denver obviously won more games, but how many wins did they improve by? 26. On the other hand, Cleveland improved their record by 18 wins, so Denver improved more.

In the end, I do feel Melo should've won the ROY award mainly because he led his to the playoffs as a rookie and LeBron didn't.

agreed.

2/5

[inclinerator]

they should have been co mvp since the difference wasnt that big

[Mr.Kite]

The year befote amare got roy because his team made the playoffs over yao

[Real14]

they should have been co mvp since the difference wasnt that big
:coleman:

[inclinerator]

:coleman:
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[Real14]

:confusedshrug:
You know damn Why:coleman:

[Smook A.]

You know damn Why:coleman:
I swear to god you use that same emoticon in every post you make

:coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman:

[Real14]

I swear to god you use that same emoticon in every post you make

:coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman: :coleman:
Are you sure niguh?:lol

[Smook A.]

Are you sure niguh?:lol
Yeah, you love that gary coleman emoticon too much

[Real14]

Yeah, you love that gary coleman emoticon too much
Don't front like I don't use otha emoticons too man:oldlol:

[DMV2]

Only reason why LeBron won it was because of the 20-5-5 feat. I think he was one of 2 or 3 rookies to ever do it.

Not saying that Melo would put up 5 APG if asked to a PG but that wasn't his role. Should go against him.

So basically, LeBron won based on historical content rather than his competition(Melo) that year.

And before any Bran stans says Melo mde the playoffs because he had a better team. Well, the West was also 10x tougher than the East.

[SexSymbol]

Don't front like I don't use otha emoticons too man:oldlol:
You're as close to the average IQ as Gary Coleman is to the average height

[Meticode]

Robbed is a strong word in this situation. I do think he definitely deserved it. There should have been co-Rookie of the Year.

[Lebronxrings]

considering this would be melos biggest achievement, i also feel that they should have given it to him.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

considering this would be melos biggest achievement, i also feel that they should have given it to him.

2/5.

[NuggetsFan]

Team success: Denver obviously won more games, but how many wins did they improve by? 26. On the other hand, Cleveland improved their record by 18 wins, so Denver improved more.


Numbers are useless without context and logic tho. That Nuggets team that won 17 games was entirely different than the 43 win team. 17 win team had 9 different players starting 20 or more games. Junior Harrington started 51 games as a rookie and washed out of the NBA entirely like 2 years later. Yarbrough played one season in the NBA, started 39 games and averaged 20+ minutes on that 17 win team. Skita almost averaged 20 minutes a night and started close to 20 games.

That 17 win team was literally garbage outside of a 20 year old Nene, Howard & Posey for 25 games & Camby who only started a handful of games. Andre Miller, Voshon Lenard, Camby, Boykins were all pretty critical to adding wins to that team.

Melo was obviously the main reason no doubt. He deserved ROY as well IMO but the fact that the Nuggets had that massive of a turnaround can't just be put on him.

[jlip]

Numbers are useless without context and logic tho. That Nuggets team that won 17 games was entirely different than the 43 win team. 17 win team had 9 different players starting 20 or more games. Junior Harrington started 51 games as a rookie and washed out of the NBA entirely like 2 years later. Yarbrough played one season in the NBA, started 39 games and averaged 20+ minutes on that 17 win team. Skita almost averaged 20 minutes a night and started close to 20 games.

That 17 win team was literally garbage outside of a 20 year old Nene, Howard & Posey for 25 games & Camby who only started a handful of games. Andre Miller, Voshon Lenard, Camby, Boykins were all pretty critical to adding wins to that team.

Melo was obviously the main reason no doubt. He deserved ROY as well IMO but the fact that the Nuggets had that massive of a turnaround can't just be put on him.

I was just about to post the same thing.

[Back In Shape]

Turned around around a crappy losing team and put them into the playoffs, had better/winning record in the tough west while Lebron struggled in the Least and missed the postseason, equal stats but Melo had a better fg% and 3p%.

Considering how much Lebron has accomplished and what little Melo has other than being the best player on the Olympic teams and stats, I think the right thing to do is for Bran to hand over that 2004 ROY trophy. Everyone knows he didn't deserve it. :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

Lebron was the better player and Melo trying to take all the credit for Denver's turn around was the first sign of what a douche he was. Andre Miller and Camby were a huge part of it

[Back In Shape]

Lebron was the better player and Melo trying to take all the credit for Denver's turn around was the first sign of what a douche he was. Andre Miller and Camby were a huge part of it

But 19 year old Melo was "the man" on that team. They would have easily made it to the ECF in the east.

[Xiao Yao You]

But 19 year old Melo was "the man" on that team. They would have easily made it to the ECF in the east.

Lebron was the man on his team they just sucked

[bobopenguin]

Lebron was the better player and Melo trying to take all the credit for Denver's turn around was the first sign of what a douche he was. Andre Miller and Camby were a huge part of it

rookies year lebron was a better all around but melo shows he can compete head to head.

lebron had boozer and big z, which was also solid af back then.

[PP34Deuce]

Both guys deserved it for what they did for their franchises.

[LostCause]

Agreed

I definitely favored Melo winning the award back then even though I was a huge LeBron fan during his 1st Cleveland stint

[stalkerforlife]

The start of LeManufactured.

[Cavs Fan]

This was quite controversial on the board back in the EZboard days. Pretty much everyone agreed Melo got robbed considering the turn around Denver had. Although less people would have stuck up for him if they had known what a douche he'd become.

[Xiao Yao You]

This was quite controversial on the board back in the EZboard days. Pretty much everyone agreed Melo got robbed considering the turn around Denver had. Although less people would have stuck up for him if they had known what a douche he'd become.

was already a douche. Said shit about Kirilenko making the all-star team and tried to take credit for everything that happened in Denver.

[iamgine]

Melo deserved it. So did Lebron. No one gets robbed.

Robbed would be if say, tj ford won it

[jstern]

A lot of people felt that Lebron deserved it and that he just needed more help to make the playoffs in the East.

I remember my cousin telling me that Lebron needs more help, and thus should get it as a consolation.

[Draz]

Carmelo ain't no *****

[superduper]

A lot of people felt that Lebron deserved it and that he just needed more help to make the playoffs in the East.

I remember my cousin telling me that Lebron needs more help, and thus should get it as a consolation.

LeGOAT been needing moar help since day 1 to year 17. Even though he currently has 4 allstars and has had multiple allstars on other teams in the past he ALWAYS needs more help :rockon:

[HylianNightmare]

I just had this argument with someone 3 days ago

[ImKobe]

Their production was about even while Melo was a better scorer and got his team to the POs..

[Gileraracer]

Lebron was the man on his team they just sucked

Yes and that is the difference. Lebron always needed more help. Started on day ONE

[jstern]

LeGOAT been needing moar help since day 1 to year 17. Even though he currently has 4 allstars and has had multiple allstars on other teams in the past he ALWAYS needs more help :rockon:

Yes, it does seem that it's always been that way. The way it's always going to be. Might be because of his style of play. Accumulation of stats. Lebron ball.

[TheCorporation]

LeGOAT been needing moar help since day 1 to year 17. Even though he currently has 4 allstars and has had multiple allstars on other teams in the past he ALWAYS needs more help :rockon:


Nope

Just give him all nba all defensive Pippen and have them play against 10.7 ppg #2 options and he'll be JUST fine :lol

[Real14]

Their production was about even while Melo was a better scorer and got his team to the POs..
It's sad. They pampered him since he was 10th grade to be the next mj so they gave that undercheiving bitch the award :coleman: