To people who are in their 20s.. have you guys run into high school former classmates

[NBAplayoffs2001]

and see how some of the people you consider "average" end up better off career wise than most of the smart kids.

Some football star at our high school was like an average B student. Now he's an investment banker.
Then I know people who went to ivy league schools who even post graduation have no idea what they want to do.

Life is weird:whatever:

[riseagainst]

yeah man. u really just dont know where life will take you. but i still keep in touch with a few close friends from high school. When i see on facebook some of the fine honeys getting married and still looking fine, i'm like dam i should have tried to fck them when i had a chance.

[SupermanOnSteroids]

no, but keep up with a few on facebook.

i joined army right after hs. after army college. after college back to hometown, but by that time all the hs friends were long gone.

so now they're just facebook friends.

[Le Shaqtus]

I have several close high school friends I graduated with I still hang out with whenever we're all home.

But I do run into some at my work sometimes and other places, a lot of them are pretty well off, I was friends with some pretty smart/cool people. Some dropped out of school but are still doing well, some still in school, some in med school, some graduated with jobs.

There are a couple who are complete losers though that I run into, and that makes me feel pretty good.

[oarabbus]

I would say in general the better school someone went to -> better they are doing now. Stories like OP are the exception to the rule generally

[NBAplayoffs2001]

no, but keep up with a few on facebook.

i joined army right after hs. after army college. after college back to hometown, but by that time all the hs friends were long gone.

so now they're just facebook friends.

I'm still a student in university but yeah dude. A lot of my friends don't even have time to hang out. Either taking classes or doing summer abroads in different continent. I never thought all of this would go by so quickly :kobe:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I have several close high school friends I graduated with I still hang out with whenever we're all home.

But I do run into some at my work sometimes and other places, a lot of them are pretty well off, I was friends with some pretty smart/cool people. Some dropped out of school but are still doing well, some still in school, some in med school, some graduated with jobs.

There are a couple who are complete losers though that I run into, and that makes me feel pretty good.

I run into a few of these but some of them were close friends in high school. But career wise they never really had motivation. They do seem happier than they were in high school though. Good for them I guess.

Yeah I know ppl who somehow got into med school as early as 20-21, it's crazy.

[DeuceWallaces]

High school doesn't mean shit.

[Le Shaqtus]

High school doesn't mean shit.

Does for some.

[Jailblazers7]

Don't run into too many but always glad for the ones who are doing well. I'm happy where I'm at so I don't get upset when someone is doing "better" than I am. I always feel bad when I run into someone still working a shitty job tho seems like a lot of people I knew from HS are stuck in neutral.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

I met a former basketball player who's working as a staff member at a gym.
Some of my former classmates attend my uni, some even take the same classes as me.
The rest: AWOL or I just don't care.

[DukeDelonte13]

most successful kid in my frat was a terrible student and dropped out to become a painter. In a few short years he's literally a millionaire.

I went to a middle of the road to sh*tty high school. A handful of students went on to become white collar professionals, most have blue collar type jobs but make good livings.

[KyleKong]

The majority of girls I take on dates are former classmates that I run into.

The majority of the time I am left fapping alone in the dark while looking at threads on ISH.

[DukeDelonte13]

I would say in general the better school someone went to -> better they are doing now. Stories like OP are the exception to the rule generally


eh, i don't necessarily buy that, but i will say it's a bit easier to get into corporate america bachelor's level if you went to a more or less well known school.

The end all end all is your parents. If you got parents that work or are connected to the field you wanna get into you are on easy street.

[DeuceWallaces]

Does for some.

No not really. You'd have to do something criminal.

[oarabbus]

No not really. You'd have to do something criminal.

I have classmates that did excellently in high school -> Got into Stanford/Duke/some Ivy -> doing well now.



What do you mean it doesn't matter? To be successful you don't need to have done well in high school, go to a good college, or even go to college. To say "HS doesn't matter" categorically is silly.

[DeuceWallaces]

It's neither silly nor wrong. Even if you want to pursue largely academic-like endeavors you can overcome nearly any high school short comings.

Anyone can get their GED, enter community college, get very good grades for 1.5 years, and transfer to most any school of their choice and finish out. It's simple and cheap, and you'll probably get a nice deal in the transfer if you did very well beforehand.

[oarabbus]

It's neither silly nor wrong. Even if you want to pursue largely academic-like endeavors you can overcome nearly any high school short comings.

Anyone can get their GED, enter community college, get very good grades for 1.5 years, and transfer to most any school of their choice and finish out. It's simple and cheap, and you'll probably get a nice deal in the transfer if you did very well beforehand.


Well yeah. Doing well in high school is not a prerequisite to be successful by any means necessary, but that doesn't mean "HS doesn't matter". You don't need to be a dominant HS basketball player to make the NBA, but it does turn out that McDonald's All American HS players have a high rate of making it professionally.

[BasedTom]

Yeah. I went to high school in the suburbs and go to uni in the city. So I'm still in contact with a lot of people from those days and still regularly see my closer friends. I'm even still facebook friends with a few people i went to school with before hs and occasionally see interesting opportunities and stuff that I wouldn't have otherwise

I don't understand the whole "You'll never see these people again, so screw it" mentality...It's true to an extant, but having good relationships and maintaining them doesn't hurt.

[BasedTom]

Don't run into too many but always glad for the ones who are doing well. I'm happy where I'm at so I don't get upset when someone is doing "better" than I am. I always feel bad when I run into someone still working a shitty job tho seems like a lot of people I knew from HS are stuck in neutral.
I've worked in retail and as a waiter and I consider those to be shitty jobs.

Why judge somebody for that? Unless it's been like 10 years since high school I don't see how doing that makes you a loser.

[DeuceWallaces]

Well yeah. Doing well in high school is not a prerequisite to be successful by any means necessary, but that doesn't mean "HS doesn't matter". You don't need to be a dominant HS basketball player to make the NBA, but it does turn out that McDonald's All American HS players have a high rate of making it professionally.

Your analogy is terrible and yes it definitely means high school doesn't matter, because it doesn't. I told you why, you agreed, but still decided to hold up your asinine position.

High school doesn't matter unless you're looking for the top 5-10% in academia, and even then you might be able to overcome it. If you think otherwise you're probably not far enough removed from HS to realize how worthless it is.

[ace23]

Your analogy is terrible
How? It's a great analogy.

[Jailblazers7]

I've worked in retail and as a waiter and I consider those to be shitty jobs.

Why judge somebody for that? Unless it's been like 10 years since high school I don't see how doing that makes you a loser.

Not judging them as being a loser. It's just that I can see that they haven't been able to get traction for whatever reason (maybe the job market, some bad choices, etc). I've worked those same shitty jobs too. Empathy =/= pity.

[Swaggin916]

Yes and the ones I run into that I talk to I genuinely hope are doing well...

but facebook obviously changes a lot. Most everybody I liked I have as a friend on there.

[Le Shaqtus]

The majority of girls I take on dates are former classmates that I run into.

The majority of the time I am left fapping alone in the dark while looking at threads on ISH.

Well I'm not alone :oldlol:

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

I'm only in touch with two people from my HS: my SO & my best friend.
I stopped interacting with the majority of my former friends. A couple became high & mighty because they began attending university instead of community college; several are bound to be life-long losers who spend their days doing nothing but smoking reefer, drinking booze and/or partaking in much worse drugs; one is either dead, in prison or simply hiding; and there are a handful who went immediately into the workforce.
I know one of my former friends is in Africa right now. Hate that dude. Hope Ebola visits him for a rendezvous.
As for me, I got my AA degree, went to work, and now I'm stuck in a dead end job that has no advancement, pay raises, etc. Feels bad, brahs. I sometimes wish I'd transferred to a university, but I also know a few people who went that route and are now working minimum wage jobs with Bachelor's degrees. No thanks, Jeff.

[KyleKong]

Well I'm not alone :oldlol:

Forever alone.

:cry:

[GimmeThat]

I mean, there were people who were more successful than me when I was in high school.

so it would really just be changing faces as to who play those roles, you know.

[JohnFreeman]

A girl I knew surprised me when she tapped me on the shoulder at a strip club. Great titties

[Draz]

I have. A few girls. All the same. Been 4 years too. They all got fat or ugly.

[JohnnySic]

High school doesn't mean shit.
x2

[InfiniteBaskets]

Ive seen a few HS buddies since I graduated college. Most got white collar jobs, making solid money. Some went back for their Masters or are working in something they don't like as much.

But for the most part, I'd say 99% of them seemed a lot happier in their 20s than compared to high school. Probably just the financial freedom aspect.

[TheSilentKiller]

High school doesn't mean shit.
this

[Nick Young]

Getting good grades in highschool and university does not necessarily mean you're smart. It can also mean you're just a bitch with no creative spark who is only good at following orders and doing what he's told.


Getting bad grades in high school and university does not necessarily mean your dumb.

Grades are a bad determinant of a persons future success. All that grades show is how good you are at following rules and retaining information.

Being an investment banker doesn't necessarily require a lot of brains. It requires good people skills and balls-things that aren't taught in the education system.

[Lebron23]

I still saw some of them during the weekends.

[~primetime~]

Obviously HS matters to some people...I have a cousin that just graduated from Yale, she wouldn't have been able to get in without being valedictorian, the very top of her high school class, and on top of that being a leader of several social clubs.

On top of that I was just reading an article about a month ago about how more and more 4-year universities no longer accept credits from community college. I know that OU in particular won't let you transfer community college credits over now, and that is starting to trend everywhere.

[~primetime~]

[URL="http://educationbythenumbers.org/content/cant-take-58-percent-community-college-transfers-able-transfer-credits-four-year-school_1115/"]You can

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Getting good grades in highschool and university does not necessarily mean you're smart. It can also mean you're just a bitch with no creative spark who is only good at following orders and doing what he's told.


Getting bad grades in high school and university does not necessarily mean your dumb.

Grades are a bad determinant of a persons future success. All that grades show is how good you are at following rules and retaining information.

Being an investment banker doesn't necessarily require a lot of brains. It requires good people skills and balls-things that aren't taught in the education system.

But to get an investment banking gig in NYC requires a high gpa especially from a non target school.

[JohnnySic]

On top of that I was just reading an article about a month ago about how more and more 4-year universities no longer accept credits from community college. I know that OU in particular won't let you transfer community college credits over now, and that is starting to trend everywhere.
Well, that sucks for young people now. Community college for a year or two is a great way for families to save money. Yep, sounds like its about money to me.

[Nick Young]

But to get an investment banking gig in NYC requires a high gpa especially from a non target school.
not exclusively, it can also require good networking and people skills.

[DeuceWallaces]

On top of that I was just reading an article about a month ago about how more and more 4-year universities no longer accept credits from community college. I know that OU in particular won't let you transfer community college credits over now, and that is starting to trend everywhere.

I don't believe that's true.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Well, that sucks for young people now. Community college for a year or two is a great way for families to save money. Yep, sounds like its about money to me.

Exactly why I dislike the education system in our country in terms of university/college/graduate school level.

[JohnnySic]

I'm in my late 30's and my high school classmates who got married in their 20's are getting divorced now. Everything's right on schedule.

[Ass Dan]

no, but keep up with a few on facebook.

i joined army right after hs. after army college. after college back to hometown, but by that time all the hs friends were long gone.

so now they're just facebook friends.

forcing you to occasionally like shit of theirs, cuz if you ain't likin they be hatin

gotta keep up on your social

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I'm in my late 30's and my high school classmates who got married in their 20's are getting divorced now. Everything's right on schedule.

late 20s or early 20s?

Yeah my best friend recently broke up with a chick who wanted all of that before they were 25.

I personally want to be engaged by the time I'm 28/29. Married for sure by the time I'm 30.

[DeuceWallaces]

I'm in my late 30's and my high school classmates who got married in their 20's are getting divorced now. Everything's right on schedule.

Yeah I've been to a couple 2nd weddings.

[2LeTTeRS]

Obviously HS matters to some people...I have a cousin that just graduated from Yale, she wouldn't have been able to get in without being valedictorian, the very top of her high school class, and on top of that being a leader of several social clubs.

On top of that I was just reading an article about a month ago about how more and more 4-year universities no longer accept credits from community college. I know that OU in particular won't let you transfer community college credits over now, and that is starting to trend everywhere.

Sucks to hear that; but I will say that here in NC things seem to be trending in the opposite direction. The community college to university is so common nowadays that guidance counselors (at least those in rural areas) are pushing kids to pursue this route instead of the traditional route.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Sucks to hear that; but I will say that here in NC things seem to be trending in the opposite direction. The community college to university is so common nowadays that guidance counselors (at least those in rural areas) are pushing kids to pursue this route instead of the traditional route.

I personally think it's a great route especially if a kid is unsure on what career he wants to do. I know someone who went to a respectable community college and graduated with honors at Duke years later.

[DeuceWallaces]

Sucks to hear that; but I will say that here in NC things seem to be trending in the opposite direction. The community college to university is so common nowadays that guidance counselors (at least those in rural areas) are pushing kids to pursue this route instead of the traditional route.

Well it's not true; they accept CC credits at OU. Just more PT facts.

[ace23]

It's neither silly nor wrong. Even if you want to pursue largely academic-like endeavors you can overcome nearly any high school short comings.
The fact that you said "overcome" shows that it matters.

[DeuceWallaces]

The fact that you said "overcome" shows that it matters.

No, not really.

[~primetime~]

I just posted an article showing that over 40% of 4-year universities will not accept CC credits. As for OU in particular I have a relative there who just failed out and is unable to retake the same credits at CC because according to him they no longer accept CC credits there. But please don't strawman this into a debate that focuses completely on OU, call the school up if you want IDC, fact is many 4-year universities will not accept CC credits any more.

Question for you Deuce, if you had a child would you tell him/her that 'high school doesn't matter'?

[ace23]

No, not really.
Lol

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Some hedge fund billionaire went to my high school in the 1980s I think.

[Tarik One]

Sucks to hear that; but I will say that here in NC things seem to be trending in the opposite direction. The community college to university is so common nowadays that guidance counselors (at least those in rural areas) are pushing kids to pursue this route instead of the traditional route.
General Ed is pretty much universal. There isn't much more you can learn from an established school that you can from a community college. Biology, Spanish, Algebra/Trig, it's the same stuff wherever you go.

That is going to suck for people with little money.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

A guy I went to high school with got drafted by the Bills this year. I never would have thought it tbh. He didn't seem all that good to me.

We had one basketball player who got huge Division 1 offer "apparently" (not sweet 16 teams but decent NCAA tourney college team), somehow went to a division 2 or division 3 school :confusedshrug:. Overhyped?