PDA

View Full Version : What was Brandon Roy's ceiling if he stayed healthy?



NBAplayoffs2001
08-14-2014, 09:50 PM
I would say Drexler.

Kvnzhangyay
08-14-2014, 09:52 PM
I would say Drexler.

cmon man ur seriously underestimating Drexler. I'd say a bit better than James Harden level currently

RoseCity07
08-14-2014, 09:52 PM
Somewhere between Pierce and Kobe.

L.Kizzle
08-14-2014, 09:53 PM
Rich Mitchmond.

RoundMoundOfReb
08-14-2014, 10:00 PM
Paul pierce level is a decent comparison I guess...

Milbuck
08-14-2014, 10:04 PM
100% healthy? Seeing how Wade and Kobe are right now..best SG in the game by far.

I mean the guy put up 23/5/5/1 on 57% TS as a 24 year old...if he was fully healthy, he probably had something like 4-6 years of improvement to go considering his game was never really reliant on athleticism. A year or two ago would've been his peak, and if was allowed to get to that uninterrupted, he probably would've been a top 5 scorer..something like 26/5/5/1.

NuggetsFan
08-14-2014, 10:38 PM
I think statistically he was around it. He put up 22.6 at 24 and than at 25 put up a point less in 65 games. He played 4 years of college and came into the NBA ready. He made strides but Roy was kinda Roy after his rookie season.

19/6/5
23/5/5
21/5/4

Rounding up/down. Rebounding was basically the same every season. Assists dropped every year but only went below 5 when he played with Andre Miller.

I think playing on Portland with all that talent he would have been a 21-24/5/5 type player.

Smook A.
08-14-2014, 10:43 PM
Roy was putting up 20+ ppg before he hit his prime.

If he stayed healthy, I think he could've easily averaged 25-27 ppg.

NuggetsFan
08-14-2014, 10:47 PM
Roy was putting up 20+ ppg before he hit his prime.

If he stayed healthy, I think he could've easily averaged 25-27 ppg.

He stayed 4 years at college, and came into the league more ready than most. High IQ player that was well rounded.

I don't get the 27 a game thing. He scored 22.6 or whatever at 24 and than below that at 25. Didn't have many holes in his game outside of defense/off the ball which he later proved that regardless of injuries he wasn't capable of that. He wasn't going to become an elite shooter, elite athlete, and was already really solid at most things.

24-25 is the start of most players primes.

Dragic4Life
08-14-2014, 10:50 PM
Lebron's average divided by 2.

oarabbus
08-14-2014, 11:05 PM
I think statistically he was around it. He put up 22.6 at 24 and than at 25 put up a point less in 65 games. He played 4 years of college and came into the NBA ready. He made strides but Roy was kinda Roy after his rookie season.

1.

That's just usually not the case though. Look at any of the relatively consistent, talented players. Pierce came out the gates hot, but rose from a 16ppg to a 26ppg scorer. Griffin went from 22 to 24, but his game has improved tremendously and I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged a few more points than that in the upcoming years. Even Duncan, arguably one of the top 5 most NBA-ready players of all time, increased his scoring from 21 to 25.5.

Would Roy put up 27, 28 points? Not sure, but he had a good shot at it.

04mzwach
08-14-2014, 11:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0wmayvP3Cc&index=32&list=FLKLm2R83aGZLRKlxRNs_E_g favorite

dubeta
08-15-2014, 12:07 AM
Remember, he put in 4 years in college, and like 3-4 in the league, its not like he would get substantially better

I think he would get the same numbers he got in his last healthy season

22, 6 , 5 not bad but not that special either

oarabbus
08-15-2014, 12:29 AM
Remember, he put in 4 years in college, and like 3-4 in the league, its not like he would get substantially better

I think he would get the same numbers he got in his last healthy season

22, 6 , 5 not bad but not that special either

Duncan went from 21 to 25 ppg

houston
08-15-2014, 01:16 AM
lower level ray allen

Inferno
08-15-2014, 01:17 AM
25/5/5

NuggetsFan
08-15-2014, 01:37 AM
That's just usually not the case though. Look at any of the relatively consistent, talented players. Pierce came out the gates hot, but rose from a 16ppg to a 26ppg scorer. Griffin went from 22 to 24, but his game has improved tremendously and I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged a few more points than that in the upcoming years. Even Duncan, arguably one of the top 5 most NBA-ready players of all time, increased his scoring from 21 to 25.5.

Would Roy put up 27, 28 points? Not sure, but he had a good shot at it.

Griffin came in and got his buckets from an unpolished post game, great motor & elite athletic ability. Completely different from Roy. Duncan came into the league a 20 point scorer and as polished as any rookie can be, came in as a 21 point scorer and peaked at 25.5 as you pointed out. At age 25, Roy put up 21 less than he did at 24.

Where was Roy going to improve? Defensively was the only area but with his poor lateral quickness doubt he would have been anything special there. Roy was solid everywhere, but elite nowhere. Maybe as a closer, but small sample size considering. He wouldn't have been an elite athlete at 26, wasn't going to be an elite shooter, wasn't going to completely alter his game. I mean post injury he wasn't able to adapt off ball, which was probably his biggest weakness as a player IMO.

His numbers would obviously change depending on his team, teammates, role, system etc. but he wasn't going to be a 27 point scorer in Portland. He was going to be very good at everything but elite at nothing. 21-23/5/5 IMO.

4 years of college ball, incredibly polished as a young player, 4 seasons in the NBA, great breakout season at age 24, slight regression next season at age 25. What we saw of Roy was basically what we were going to see going forward.