Warriors vs Suns next year

[Inferno]

Better team? Dragic4Life, argue your case :roll:

Dragic - Thomas - Ennis
Bledsoe - Green - Goodwin
Tucker - Marcus Morris - Warren
Markief Morris - Tolliver - Randolph
Plumlee - Len


vs


Curry - Livingston - Nedavic - Craft
Thompson - Rush
Iguodala - Barnes
Lee - Green - Speights
Bogut - Ezeli - Kuzmic


Discuss :lol

[Milbuck]

LOL at Corleone actually being a Suns fan.

Anyways, Warriors destroy. Better at every position.

[Inferno]

LOL at Corleone actually being a Suns fan.

Anyways, Warriors destroy. Better at every position.

Got these on separate occasions :lol


Curry led the league in turnovers. He's not better offensively than Lebron so go fvck yourself you piece of shit GSW fan.

Not even top 5 PG in the league is Curry. No defense weak little boy on the court.

Curry is not better than Dragic.

PHX > GSW. Deal with it.

[Dragic4Life]

Let's just take a look at the starting 5, you know, the players who actually matter.

Curry - shoot 3s no defense
Thompson - shoot 3s no defense
Iguodala - only good player on the team
Lee - poor mans Kevin Love which is sad because empty stats
Bogut - can't even walk

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Dragic - GREAT defense, one of the most tenacious offensive PG now, MIP
Bledsoe - top 5 SG in the league
Tucker - Defensive beast ala Kawhi Leonard
Markief Morris - Twin tower
Plumlee - Young developing center


You tell me...

[dubeta]

Let's just take a look at the starting 5, you know, the players who actually matter.

Curry - shoot 3s no defense
Thompson - shoot 3s no defense
Iguodala - only good player on the team
Lee - poor mans Kevin Love which is sad because empty stats
Bogut - can't even walk

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Dragic - GREAT defense, one of the most tenacious offensive PG now, MIP
Bledsoe - top 5 SG in the league
Tucker - Defensive beast ala Kawhi Leonard
Markief Morris - Twin tower
Plumlee - Young developing center


You tell me...

Imagine if you could combine the best of Dragic and Bledsoe into one player

Would probably be the 2nd best player in the league :bowdown:

[Dragic4Life]

Suns have a younger core and support than Warriors.

We have Green and Len who can take over games. Green is an athletic monster who hits gamewinners.

What about you GSW? No clutch shooting aside from Iggy?:lol

[Warfan]

Im not gonna shit on Phoenix because i respect what they did last season and i like dragic. But GSW will be the better team, Phoenix will be good ofcourse but im confident the Warrirors will be fighting for HCA whilst Phoenix will be fighting for a playoff spot again (maybe they get a low seed).

[Smoke117]

Yawn...of course the Warriors are better, but I'd frankly rather watch the Suns play basketball.

[oarabbus]

Suns have a younger core and support than Warriors.

We have Green and Len who can take over games. Green is an athletic monster who hits gamewinners.

What about you GSW? No clutch shooting aside from Iggy?:lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3qhsPdwqE0 - Klay Thompson Game Winner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNtZ6K9VJmQ - Draymond Green Game Winner


Not gonna post Steph cuz he has too many plus he's better than LeBron offensively, according to himself

[Inferno]

Let's just take a look at the starting 5, you know, the players who actually matter.

Curry - shoot 3s no defense
Thompson - shoot 3s no defense
Iguodala - only good player on the team
Lee - poor mans Kevin Love which is sad because empty stats
Bogut - can't even walk

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Dragic - GREAT defense, one of the most tenacious offensive PG now, MIP
Bledsoe - top 5 SG in the league
Tucker - Defensive beast ala Kawhi Leonard
Markief Morris - Twin tower
Plumlee - Young developing center


You tell me...

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Dragic4Life]

Im not gonna shit on Phoenix because i respect what they did last season and i like dragic (not the fggt poster ofcourse). But GSW will be the better team, Phoenix will be good ofcourse but im confident the Warrirors will be fighting for HCA whilst Phoenix will be fighting for a playoff spot again (maybe they get a low seed).
What's that supposed to mean? I thought we're in a non-troll thread talking basketball?

Cya in the WCF.

[Dragic4Life]

Curry leads the league in turnovers btw. Why is this overlooked?

[oarabbus]

Curry leads the league in turnovers btw. Why is this overlooked?


U mad because Steph > LeBron offensively, according to himself

[JohnMax]

Thompson - shoot 3s no defense

http://media.giphy.com/media/FVHK4F06LWeNa/giphy.gif
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[J Shuttlesworth]

Dragic :applause: Best comedian on ISH

[Dragic4Life]

U mad because Steph > LeBron offensively, according to himself
Curry isn't even a top 10 at his OWN POSITION let alone > Lebron.

I can list 10 PG FAR FAR BETTER than Stephen Curry.

[Inferno]

Curry isn't even a top 10 at his OWN POSITION let alone > Lebron.

I can list 10 PG FAR FAR BETTER than Stephen Curry.

Please do :applause:

[Smoke117]

Curry leads the league in turnovers btw. Why is this overlooked?

The PG on a team leads said team in turnovers...wow you must be some kind of basketball idiot savant to come up with this kind of ideology? Dragic by far averaged more turnovers than the rest of the team besides Bledsoe...so that makes you think his 5.9apg to 2.9topg is impressive for a pg? Not exactly, mate.

[Inferno]

Steph 8.5/3.8 AST/TO to Dragic's 5.9/2.8 :pimp:

[Dragic4Life]

Please do :applause:
1. Chris Paul - you can't argue that you POS
2. Damian Lillard - more clutch, better shooting
3. Russell Westbrook - far far more athletic and better defensively
4. Goran Dragic - not even close in terms of defense and leadership
5. Tony Parker - veteran experience and a proven winner unlike Steph
6. Derrick Rose - MVP calibre when healthy
7. Rajon Rondo - purest PG, pass-first instead of chuck like Curry
8. John Wall - defensively murks Curry
9. Kyle Lowry - can rebound unlike Curry
10. Mike Conley - contributes far more to his team, look at the playoffs against OKC


There, I value defense far more than one-dimensional offensive PG like Curry. But that's just me.

[Milbuck]

1. Chris Paul - you can't argue that you POS
2. Damian Lillard - more clutch, better shooting
3. Russell Westbrook - far far more athletic and better defensively
4. Goran Dragic - not even close in terms of defense and leadership
5. Tony Parker - veteran experience and a proven winner unlike Steph
6. Derrick Rose - MVP calibre when healthy
7. Rajon Rondo - purest PG, pass-first instead of chuck like Curry
8. John Wall - defensively murks Curry
9. Kyle Lowry - can rebound unlike Curry
10. Mike Conley - contributes far more to his team, look at the playoffs against OKC


There, I value defense far more than one-dimensional offensive PG like Curry. But that's just me.
You value defense but have Lillard #2 on your list :roll:

Go fap to some Dragic All-Star game highlights....:oldlol:

[Inferno]

1. Chris Paul - you can't argue that you POS
2. Damian Lillard - more clutch, better shooting
3. Russell Westbrook - far far more athletic and better defensively
4. Goran Dragic - not even close in terms of defense and leadership
5. Tony Parker - veteran experience and a proven winner unlike Steph
6. Derrick Rose - MVP calibre when healthy
7. Rajon Rondo - purest PG, pass-first instead of chuck like Curry
8. John Wall - defensively murks Curry
9. Kyle Lowry - can rebound unlike Curry
10. Mike Conley - contributes far more to his team, look at the playoffs against OKC


There, I value defense far more than one-dimensional offensive PG like Curry. But that's just me.

:oldlol: Alright bud. We'll see how both teams/players are doing in May :cheers:

[Dragic4Life]

You value defense but have Lillard #2 on your list :roll:

Go fap to some Dragic All-Star game highlights....wait.
I value defense, but Lillard is TOO CLUTCH to be overlooked.

I happen to like players who are clutch and hit big shots in 4th quaters.

[Milbuck]

I value defense, but Lillard is TOO CLUTCH to be overlooked.
http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/14/jennifer-lawrence-10.gif

What about Tony "benched for getting destroyed by Westbrook" Parker?

[Dragic4Life]

What about Tony "benched for getting destroyed by Westbrook" Parker?
Not relevant to a "Warriors vs Suns" thread.

Btw you're a Buck fan, gtfo of this thread. Only GSW and PHX fans can talk smack here.

[oarabbus]

1. Chris Paul - you can't argue that you POS
2. Damian Lillard - more clutch, better shooting
3. Russell Westbrook - far far more athletic and better defensively
4. Goran Dragic - not even close in terms of defense and leadership
5. Tony Parker - veteran experience and a proven winner unlike Steph
6. Derrick Rose - MVP calibre when healthy
7. Rajon Rondo - purest PG, pass-first instead of chuck like Curry
8. John Wall - defensively murks Curry
9. Kyle Lowry - can rebound unlike Curry
10. Mike Conley - contributes far more to his team, look at the playoffs against OKC


There, I value defense far more than one-dimensional offensive PG like Curry. But that's just me.

But how many of these PGs are better offensively than LeBron? Just Curry :lol


DragicLogic: Lillard 42% is a better shooter than Curry 47%

[Dragic4Life]

But how many of these PGs are better offensively than LeBron? Just Curry :lol
No. Only a few PG in the league are arguably "better" offensively than Lebron.

I say only Lillard, Dragic and Paul. Yes I said Dragic, go look at his drive to the basket and post moves. Dragic doing dreamshakes like Hakeem, even Lebron struggles to shake people.

[oarabbus]

No. Only a few PG in the league are arguably "better" offensively than Lebron.

I say only Lillard, Dragic and Paul. Yes I said Dragic, go look at his drive to the basket and post moves. PG doing dreamshakes.

:roll: we confused the shit out of Dragic now he's saying Lillard and Dragic are better offensively than Lebron :facepalm
I'm surprised I have to tell you, the biggest lebron crotchsniffer, that no PG is better offensively than LeBron.

Curry is better than every PG you listed except perhaps CP3 and Westbrook, though.

[Milbuck]

Not relevant to a "Warriors vs Suns" thread.

Btw you're a Buck fan, gtfo of this thread. Only GSW and PHX fans can talk smack here.
Guess which Phoenix Suns player isn't on here :yaohappy:

http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/up/2014/02/images/2014-western-conference-all-stars.jpg

I see Curry there on the right though..

[Inferno]

Guess which Phoenix Suns player isn't on here :yaohappy:

http://cdn.solecollector.com/media/up/2014/02/images/2014-western-conference-all-stars.jpg

I see Curry there on the right though..

:roll:

[Inferno]

Dragic playoff averages: 8/2/2 on 43/33/74 shooting

Curry playoff averages: 23/4/8 on 44/39/90 shooting

Damn :coleman:

[oarabbus]

^ I'm surprised Dirk and Aldridge are so much taller than Davis..

[Dragic4Life]

:roll: we confused the shit out of Dragic now he's saying Lillard and Dragic are better offensively than Lebron :facepalm
I'm surprised I have to tell you, the biggest lebron crotchsniffer, that no PG is better offensively than LeBron.

Curry is better than every PG you listed except perhaps CP3 and Westbrook, though.
It's obvious you don't watch Dragic much.:facepalm

Probably the MOST UNDERRATED player in the league right now.

[Dragic4Life]

Dragic playoff averages: 8/2/2 on 43/33/74 shooting

Curry playoff averages: 23/4/8 on 44/39/90 shooting

Damn :coleman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWjQ7nZTkI

Against the eventual 2014 champion the Spurs. Dragic scored his points on 10/13 FG attempts including 5/5 three pointers.

[oarabbus]

It's obvious you don't watch Dragic much.:facepalm

Probably the MOST UNDERRATED player in the league right now.

Dragic is a very good 2nd tier PG, nothing more

Inferior to Curry. Far, far inferior.

[Inferno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWjQ7nZTkI

Against the eventual 2014 champion the Spurs. Dragic scored his points on 10/13 FG attempts including 5/5 three pointers.

And? Terrence Ross once scored 51 points :bowdown:

[Warfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWjQ7nZTkI

Against the eventual 2014 champion the Spurs. Dragic scored his points on 10/13 FG attempts including 5/5 three pointers.


what does that got to do with something that happened 4 years ago :biggums:

And steph had a 44/11 game and averaged 23/3/7 against a better Spurs team

[Inferno]

what does that got to do with something that happened 4 year ago :biggums:

And steph had a 44/11 game and averaged 23/3/7 against a better Spurs team

:applause: :applause:

[oarabbus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWjQ7nZTkI

Against the eventual 2014 champion the Spurs. Dragic scored his points on 10/13 FG attempts including 5/5 three pointers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2zCR8oR9MA

36/12/4stl on 60% against the 2/5 Finals loser Bran

[livingby3's]

Dragic playoff averages: 8/2/2 on 43/33/74 shooting

Curry playoff averages: 23/4/8 on 44/39/90 shooting

Damn :coleman:

U can't take Dragic playoffs stats as a comparison to Curry's. The years he was playing in the POs were the years he's playing behind Nash.
Let Dragic play his current role in the playoffs, I'm pretty sure he will post something close to Curry, except lesser assists.

The Suns' records does not represent Dragic's ability as a player at all, just like how that Dragic named poster doesn't represent the Suns fans on this board. Stop replying to him

[wagexslave]

LOL at Corleone actually being a Suns fan.

Anyways, Warriors destroy. Better at every position.
That's why they split the season series last year because GSW is so much better.:rolleyes:

And you have to be smoking crack up your ass to claim GSW is better than Phoenix at PG. Dragic and Curry are on the same level, you can make arguments either way between them. Dragic actually outplayed Curry overall in their head to head meetings last season. Curry didn't even guard Dragic because Curry is too much of a liability on defense that they had to put Klay Thompson on Dragic. Dragic on the other hand was assigned to guard Curry full time. Kind of pathetic that Curry can't guard the guy who's guarding him and instead has to have a defensive specialist come in and do his job for him. lmao

But anyways outside of Curry and Dragic the Suns completely decimate the Warriors at PG in every single way with Bledsoe and Thomas.

[oarabbus]

That's why they split the season series last year because GSW is so much better.:rolleyes:

And you have to be smoking crack up your ass to claim GSW is better than Phoenix at PG. Dragic and Curry are on the same level, you can make arguments either way between them. Dragic actually outplayed Curry overall in their head to head meetings last season. Curry didn't even guard Dragic because Curry is too much of a liability on defense that they had to put Klay Thompson on Dragic. Dragic on the other hand was assigned to guard Curry full time. Kind of pathetic that Curry can't guard the guy who's guarding him and instead has to have a defensive specialist come in and do his job for him. lmao

But anyways outside of Curry and Dragic the Suns completely decimate the Warriors at PG in every single way with Bledsoe and Thomas.


:eek: holy fuxking delusion batman

The Suns don't make the playoffs and this guy thinks the Suns are better since they tied the season series :roll:

[Fudge]

Bahahaha, Steph is on another level compared to Tragic. Deal wif it.

[wagexslave]

Bahahaha, Steph is on another level compared to Tragic. Deal wif it.
On another level in what area? Sucking ass defensively?

[Cocaine80s]

I would take Lavine over both curry and draigic

[wagexslave]

:eek: holy fuxking delusion batman

The Suns don't make the playoffs and this guy thinks the Suns are better since they tied the season series :roll:
Learn to read. I never said the Suns were better. I said the Warriors are better. They're going to flat out demolish the Suns every time they play this year like they did last year, because they're just a vastly superior team like Warriors fans would claim. :rolleyes:

Thinking the Warriors are significantly better than the Suns is the definition of delusional.

[livingby3's]

I can agree that Dragic is in a tier two compared to Curry, but let us not make it sound like they are that far off.

Curry is a superior offensive player, especially as a shooter, but basketball is played both ends, Dragic being the more well rounded player, also Dragic is a very good finisher at the rim.

Passing wise I think they are debatable, however the offensive powers of their team, not that debatable. Advantage to Curry, until Dragic gets to run a good offensive team with a reliable post scorer.

In no way am I trying to overrate Dragic. But he's closer to Curry than what some poster like to believe.

Yes Warriors are a playoff team, Suns took the 9th spot. But between them? 3 wins difference. If Bledsoe never got hurt? Who knows

[oarabbus]

I can agree that Dragic is in a tier two compared to Curry, but let us not make it sound like they are that far off.

Curry is a superior offensive player, especially as a shooter, but basketball is played both ends, Dragic being the more well rounded player, also Dragic is a very good finisher at the rim.

Passing wise I think they are debatable, however the offensive powers of their team, not that debatable. Advantage to Curry, until Dragic gets to run a good offensive team with a reliable post scorer.

In no way am I trying to overrate Dragic. But he's closer to Curry than what some poster like to believe.

Yes Warriors are a playoff team, Suns took the 9th spot. But between them? 3 wins difference. If Bledsoe never got hurt? Who knows]

In what way is Dragic more well rounded?


Curry averaged more points, assists (by a huge margin), rebounds, steals, FT%, and 3pt%. Better AST/TO. The only think Dragic is better at is cutting/finishing at the rim.


Dragic is a very good player, but there is a clear gap.

[Cocaine80s]

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In what way is Dragic more well rounded?


Curry averaged more points, assists (by a huge margin), rebounds, steals, FT%, and 3pt%. Better AST/TO. The only think Dragic is better at is cutting/finishing at the rim.


Dragic is a very good player, but there is a clear gap.
dragic's assists went down because of Bledsoe. Curry is the only playmaker besides iguodala. dragic also had a higher fg%. Also this was only dragic's second year as a starter, plus he is a better defender.

Anyways i think Curry is better than him and will most likely always be better than him, Dragic is not that much worse than Curry tho

[livingby3's]

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In what way is Dragic more well rounded?


Curry averaged more points, assists (by a huge margin), rebounds, steals, FT%, and 3pt%. Better AST/TO. The only think Dragic is better at is cutting/finishing at the rim.


Dragic is a very good player, but there is a clear gap.

First. Dragic and Bledsoe shared the backcourt. Both as PGs, sharing the duty to run the team's offense.
Second. Like I mentioned earlier, in terms of team's offensive power, Warriors own the much better offensive squad.
Bledsoe - Thompson
Tucker - Iguodala
Frye - Lee
Plumlee - Bogut
Green - Barnes

I'm not arguing that Dragic is the better playmaker. But Dragic improved much as a player last season, I would like to see him play beside a quality low post big man. Till then, I'm giving the edge to Curry.

Both are considerably scoring point guards, and Curry, the best shooting PG in the league right now, does it better. But being well rounded involves contributions on both ends, hence the reason i stated Dragic.

[wagexslave]

Yes Warriors are a playoff team, Suns took the 9th spot. But between them? 3 wins difference. If Bledsoe never got hurt? Who knows
And on top of that the Suns have improved their roster since last season only losing Channing Frye(not much of a loss tbh) but gaining Isiah Thomas, Anthony Tolliver, and 3 first round draft picks. What have the Warriors gained since last season?

Warriors fans are delusional thinking they're some great team compared to the Suns.

[Dragic4Life]

Curry has a CLEAR gap in his overall game and that is defense.

Frankly his offense is also overrated. I prefer Dragic.

[kurple]

neither team are really that good

both can miss the playoffs

warriors looks great on paper, but that didnt mean much last season

[wally_world]

Warriors are obviously better on paper. But once again disappoint in the playoffs. Suns will be as, if not more successful.

[Inferno]

Curry isn't even a top 10 at his OWN POSITION let alone > Lebron.

I can list 10 PG FAR FAR BETTER than Stephen Curry.

That's why they split the season series last year because GSW is so much better.:rolleyes:

And you have to be smoking crack up your ass to claim GSW is better than Phoenix at PG. Dragic and Curry are on the same level, you can make arguments either way between them. Dragic actually outplayed Curry overall in their head to head meetings last season. Curry didn't even guard Dragic because Curry is too much of a liability on defense that they had to put Klay Thompson on Dragic. Dragic on the other hand was assigned to guard Curry full time. Kind of pathetic that Curry can't guard the guy who's guarding him and instead has to have a defensive specialist come in and do his job for him. lmao

But anyways outside of Curry and Dragic the Suns completely decimate the Warriors at PG in every single way with Bledsoe and Thomas.

Shout out Suns fans :applause:

[oarabbus]

Learn to read. I never said the Suns were better. I said the Warriors are better. They're going to flat out demolish the Suns every time they play this year like they did last year, because they're just a vastly superior team like Warriors fans would claim. :rolleyes:

Thinking the Warriors are significantly better than the Suns is the definition of delusional.


:facepalm


On another level in what area? Sucking ass defensively?

:facepalm

And on top of that the Suns have improved their roster since last season only losing Channing Frye(not much of a loss tbh) but gaining Isiah Thomas, Anthony Tolliver, and 3 first round draft picks. What have the Warriors gained since last season?

Warriors fans are delusional thinking they're some great team compared to the Suns.


:facepalm


I generally don't like to call out people who are just proud fans of their own team but wagexslave, damn your basketball knowledge got exposed worse than Bron in 4th quarters of the 2011 finals. Taking L after L.... this guy is the ISH equivalent of the 76ers :oldlol:

[oarabbus]

Ladies and gentlemen, behold the dumbest poster in ISH history, wagexslave aka ISH Philly.

[CarlosBoozer]

:roll:

[Funktion]

Curry leads the league in turnovers btw. Why is this overlooked?

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVRE75EUEAAuEDN.png

[wagexslave]

Ladies and gentlemen, behold the dumbest poster in ISH history, wagexslave aka ISH Philly.
It's true the shit I said back then does look quite ridiculous now. But who expected the Warriors to be anywhere near this good back then? And I definitely didn't expect Steph Curry to go Super Sayian the way he has. They've exceeded every expectation possible. While my team has done nothing but disappoint since then. lol :facepalm I can admit I was wrong about everything, the Warriors are a great team with talented young players. I'm quite envious of your squad.

Gotta say these days I'm happy for true loyal Warriors fans though. You guys went through some rough seasons before and were always there rooting for your team through struggles and all, as I am with my team now. So I can respect that. Enjoy the success, must feel great to finally see your team doing so well on top of the world. I just hope my Suns can finally make it there some day too. :cheers:

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Tragic Dragic take this

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[oarabbus]

It's true the shit I said back then does look quite ridiculous now. But who expected the Warriors to be anywhere near this good back then? And I definitely didn't expect Steph Curry to go Super Sayian the way he has. They've exceeded every expectation possible. While my team has done nothing but disappoint since then. lol :facepalm I can admit I was wrong about everything, the Warriors are a great team with talented young players. I'm quite envious of your squad.

Gotta say these days I'm happy for true loyal Warriors fans though. You guys went through some rough seasons before and were always there rooting for your team through struggles and all, as I am with my team now. So I can respect that. Enjoy the success, must feel great to finally see your team doing so well on top of the world. I just hope my Suns can finally make it there some day too. :cheers:

:cheers: my b I shouldn't have been such a dick about it haha. I'm glad you acknowledge your comments are funny in retrospect though.

Dirty little secret... I didn't think they'd be anywhere near this good either. I have nothing against the Suns btw, hope your team does well in the future.

[wagexslave]

:cheers: my b I shouldn't have been such a dick about it haha. I'm glad you acknowledge your comments are funny in retrospect though.

Dirty little secret... I didn't think they'd be anywhere near this good either. I have nothing against the Suns btw, hope your team does well in the future.
It's all good man, even I can laugh at some stupid shit I said in the past. :oldlol:

Besides, I know I'm surely not the only doubter that the Warriors have made look silly by now. :D