BOXING: Prime Mike Tyson vs Prime Muhammad Ali: who wins?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

This is a toughy.

[MrC1991]

Ali could of dodged the draft but he wouldn't of dodged tysons uppercut.

[Angel Face]

Ali due to having reach advantage, being much more mobile and has better defense. Tyson has power but Ali has power too although Tyson generates more power due to his low center of gravity stance while Ali likes to move around and pick you apart from distance. Ali has better timing too. Timing and speed > punching power every time.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Ali due to having reach advantage, being much more mobile and has better defense. Tyson has power but Ali has power too although Tyson generates more power due to his low center of gravity stance while Ali likes to move around and pick you apart from distance. Ali has better timing too. Timing and speed > punching power every time.

Foreman in Rumble in the Jungle can attest to that but I do think prime Tyson punched harder than anyone Ali fought (personally).

[DonDadda59]

Mike doesn't present Ali with anything he hadn't seen with Frazier, Big George, Shavers. But on the other hand, whenever Mike went up against a tall, skilled fighter... he got knocked the f*ck out.

Plus Mike being a mental midget and all- Ali would've destroyed his confidence in the prefight lead up. Just toyed with him mentally.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Mike doesn't present Ali with anything he hadn't seen with Frazier, Big George, Shavers. But on the other hand, whenever Mike went up against a tall, skilled fighter... he got knocked the f*ck out.

Plus Mike being a mental midget and all- Ali would've destroyed his confidence in the prefight lead up. Just toyed with him mentally.

True, Tyson also wasn't as intellectually gifted as Ali. Wouldn't know how to deal with Ali's trashtalking.

For anyone who has been talking on this thread if you have not seen it yet,

The movie Ali is great (Will smith plays as Muhammad Ali)

[L.Kizzle]

Plus Mike being a mental midget and all- Ali would've destroyed his confidence in the prefight lead up. Just toyed with him mentally.
I agree Mike vs Ali pre fight interviews would be more entertaining than the fight.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I agree Mike vs Ali pre fight interviews would be more entertaining than the fight.

It would be hard to drink a coffee while hearing it. Probably would burn my whole mouth laughing. Some of Tyson's quotes are so messed up but hilarious

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[JohnFreeman]

Tyson too strong

[DonDadda59]

Tyson too strong

Big George stronger.

Got KTFO by past prime Ali.

[oarabbus]

Prime Joe Frazier

[KevinNYC]

Tyson too strong

Tyson's early career was a series of fighters who were deliberately picked becaue they weren't mobile.

Who did Tyson fight that was a good defensive boxer?

[Orlando Magic]

Pre-Don King... focused, disciplined, fresh and prime Mike Tyson... was probably the most dominant athlete the world has ever seen throughout all of history.

Give me Tyson and I'm betting the farm on it.

Tyson's neck was naturally super ****ing huge and he could take a hell of a beating before going down. Ali would have gotten knocked the **** out.

Here's a clip of Ali publicly stating that Tyson would beat him and that he was scared of Tyson. But to be fair Tyson also said that Ali would beat him. But anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8sE36tLscQ#t=629

[L.Kizzle]

It would be hard to drink a coffee while hearing it. Probably would burn my whole mouth laughing. Some of Tyson's quotes are so messed up but hilarious

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Ali: I'm the greatest and they got me fighting some clown who sounds like Tweety Bird and looks like a back up dancer for New Edition?

Tyson: F*** you Ali.

Ali: I'm pretty.

Tyson: You're pretty alright. I'll f*** and you'll like it. You converted to Islam. After I f*** you're gonna convert to my dick you bi***!

[Orlando Magic]

Tyson was unquestionably stronger and to anyone that thinks Ali was faster... lol...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51090bGcoR8

[Orlando Magic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emhQwIlLiD4

**** that shit. There are very few men walking the earth that would make me shit my pants... he's one of them.

[That_Admiral]

Mike Tyson was faster & stronger.
But Ali had the reach advantage, the durability and the ability to take hard punches. On top of that he could get into the head of any boxer you know.

Ali would win. (And this is coming from someone who's favourite boxer is Tyson)

[deja vu]

Tyson is mad overrated, he destroyed tomato cans pretty much his entire career. When he faced real competition like Holyfield and Lewis he got murked badly.

Ali owns Tyson in this mythical matchup.

[bdreason]

This thread again. Ali would embarrass Tyson.

[Solidape]

Ali's resume should speak for itself, he had fought many all time greats and beat them.

Who has Tyson beaten?

Although if Tyson does connect, he has a chance, but Ali took big shots from George Foreman and took it like a champ.

Ali wins due to there being greater proof that he can win fights against tough competition, something that Mike did not do.

[NZStreetBaller]

Tyson wouldnt land a single blow on Ali, Ali is always on his toes and moves backwards and when guys get close he just leans right back. Tyson couldnt even catch lewis and lewis is slow as ****.

[BRabbiT]

Ali

[GOBB]

For the people who say mike only beat bums who did you want him to fight? You probably weren't even born. But I'll sit and wait to hear the list of names he should have fought.


Anyway, Ali would win because he has the length to keep Tyson away and the conditioning to go the distance which would eventually frustrate Tyson as the fight wore on. Ali would definitely eat some shots tho but he could last.

[DonDadda59]

For the people who say mike only beat bums who did you want him to fight? You probably weren't even born. But I'll sit and wait to hear the list of names he should have fought.


For one, Riddick Bowe. But he was exactly what is all wrong for Tyson- a tall and skilled boxer.

Mike's thoughts on fighting him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Oo1Pa72uM

And you obviously should take this with a grain of salt, but the author names names and claims that the only reason Tyson-Old Man Foreman didn't happen was because Iron Mike was scared shitless of being grilled:


While we were eating, Benton said, "Bobby, what's up with Foreman and Tyson, how come they're not fighting each other on the 16th? Isn't that the fight that King was trying to make?" He said, "Georgie, You'll never believe this but, ****in' Tyson is scared shit less of Foreman and wants no part of him. I was there when Don was trying to make the fight. He was telling Tyson that Foreman represented huge money, plus he was old and slow and would be no problem. Tyson got up and screamed at King saying, 'I'm not fight in' that ****in' animal, if you love the mother****er so much, you fight him!'"

Goodman stated that Tyson said Foreman was much better than people thought, and was a dangerous fight for any of the top heavyweights. Goodman proceeded to explain how Tyson was calling Foreman a big con man, and explained that the grandpop act was just a front. He said Tyson saw Foreman as trying to set up the boxing world into thinking he was a pushover, knowing that he really wasn't. Tyson said Foreman was a wolf in sheep's clothing. Goodman continued to say that after seeing Tyson's response to King trying to push him into a fight with Foreman, he had no doubt that Tyson had fear of Foreman. He also said that from that point on, he felt that if Foreman and Tyson ever fought, Foreman would knock Tyson out!

Throughout the lunch Goodman, Duva, Benton, and myself shared stories and thoughts on the fight game. Out of the blue Goodman said, "Oh I remember why else Tyson wanted no parts of Foreman. He said that King had found out from Steve Lott that Tyson and Cus D'Amato used to watch the Frazier-Foreman fight over and over." He continued saying that Tyson loved that fight because he was awed by Foreman's power and Frazier's toughness and how he kept getting up after every knockdown. He also said that Lott told King that Cus sat alongside Tyson saying, "It's suicide against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier," never figuring that Foreman could be a possible Tyson opponent down the road. He said that Cus said the only fighters who had a chance against Foreman were, tall rangy fighters who could fight him from a distance while moving away from him, and no way any swarmer could beat Foreman by going to him.

Those are the words of the man who actually had a hand in trying to make the Foreman-Tyson fight, and was in the room when the negotiations broke down. Over the years, I've talked to many people who were involved with Tyson and Foreman and they all verify the story, every one of them. I have also talked to people who were involved with promoting Foreman, including Ron Weathers who promoted a few of Foreman's comeback fights. He told me the same story. The fight didn't happen because of Tyson being fearful of losing to George. Bob Arum also said that he dreamed of making Foreman-Tyson. He said it would be huge money and that Foreman would stop Tyson easier than he did Frazier. This is something Arum often repeated to the press. I have also heard this from George's brother Roy who was his business manager. I co-hosted a boxing show with Roy in Atlantic City for a little less than two months and this was a regular topic when discussing Tyson. Anyone who covered boxing at the time or knew any of the involved parties knew of this. It's not breaking news.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/foreman_tyson_fl.html


Of course Big George would lose to Holyfield (who would later KO Mike and frustrate him to the point of ear-biting in the rematch) and make History by KOing Michael Moorer- another fighter Tyson never saw in the ring.

[lefthook00]

We've gone over this before, Ali would beat the sh*t out of Tyson.

-Ali has been hit flush by fighters that hit way harder than Tyson(contrary to popular belief, Tyson is not in the top 5 hardest punchers in history), and beat them
-Ali has fought fighters that are stronger than Tyson, and beat them
-Tyson is NOT A TOP 10 HEAVYWEIGHT, why do you think he beat the GOAT HEAVYWEIGHT(arguably)????????
-Ali was NOT feather-fisted, he knocked out a LOT of people with better chins than Tyson, Tyson would not be able to take Ali's punches for long
-Tyson had a lung condition, which is why he tried to end fights early, their stamina is incomparable
-Both got locked up in their primes, Ali shined after that and Tyson did not
-Ali has one of the best chins in history, Tyson does not
-Ali has 10x the footwork that Tyson has
-Ali has better reflexes
-You think Ali wouldn't be able to avoid Tyson's barrages for a few rounds?
-Ali has way more heart
-Ali and Tyson have comparable handspeed
-Ali is taller and has a lot more reach, when ur talking about top tier fighters, this makes all the difference in the world
-Ali's jab alone would make Tyson quit
-Ali would break Tyson's mind before the fight even starts
-Tyson has stated on multiple occasions that Ali's pedigree>his, in fact, when asked about fighting Tyson, he explains why he would lose to Ali and almost starts crying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF17mkqyf44
See 3:09 mark, listen carefully

[GOBB]

Tyson is not a top 5 hardest punches? Yeah ok.

[lefthook00]

Tyson is not a top 5 hardest punches? Yeah ok.

George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Lennox Lewis, Both Klitschko brothers - punched harder than Tyson. These guys are 6'2"+ superheavyweight monster bonecrushers.

Tua, Ibeabuchi, Liston - this is Tyson's punching power level, not the guys above. Tyson's power+speed is one of the deadliest combos ever though.

[GOBB]

Lennox Lewis? :oldlol: ok

[gts]

This thread again. Ali would embarrass Tyson.This...

If you're in this thread trying to convince people Tyson would win you have not watched enough Ali...

[gts]

For the people who say mike only beat bums who did you want him to fight? You probably weren't even born. But I'll sit and wait to hear the list of names he should have fought.


Anyway, Ali would win because he has the length to keep Tyson away and the conditioning to go the distance which would eventually frustrate Tyson as the fight wore on. Ali would definitely eat some shots tho but he could last.


well said... People don't realize Ali could take a punch, and he wasn't afraid to take one...

[NBAplayoffs2001]

This...

If you're in this thread trying to convince people Tyson would win you have not watched enough Ali...

Muhammad Ali is my all time favorite athlete. The way I see it, if Muhammad Ali is able to withstand Tyson's power arsenal in the first 5 rounds it is game over. Tyson was known to break down after 5 or 6 rounds due to lack of stamina. Ali was known for endurance/quick endurance/quick jab. Later rounds, I can see him pull out a KO.

[GOBB]

http://youtu.be/MF17mkqyf44


Mike Tyson on facing Ali 4:26 mark

[Smook A.]

I'm going with Muhammad Ali.

Mike Tyson might've been strong, but Ali was too quick.

http://i.imgur.com/LRZwzN5.gif

The GOAT. This dude dodged 21 ****ing punches.

[KyleKong]

People really picked Tyson?

:eek: :wtf:

[ace23]

I'm going with Muhammad Ali.

Mike Tyson might've been strong, but Ali was too quick.

http://i.imgur.com/LRZwzN5.gif

The GOAT. This dude dodged 21 ****ing punches.
Damn lol

[zoom17]

People really picked Tyson?

:eek: :wtf:

http://cpobc.com/images/iFGDa5CyLrAde.gif

[DonDadda59]

http://youtu.be/MF17mkqyf44


Mike Tyson on facing Ali 4:26 mark

One thing people don't know about Mike is that he's a bonafide Boxing Historian. He's like an Encyclopedia when it comes to that stuff. Cus had him watch tons of tape when he was coming up and he just absorbed all the names, styles, fights, etc.


Damn lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZgYUrik_wY

[Solidape]

http://cpobc.com/images/iFGDa5CyLrAde.gif


Lol :oldlol:

[RedBlackAttack]

This thread pops up every few years. Unfortunately, it has never been really worth all of the discussion that it has received.

Tyson wasn't even one of the best two heavyweights of his own freaking era (that would be Lewis/Holyfield). Ali was the best in the most stacked HW division in boxing history.

Not to mention, Ali would have him mentally beaten before the two guys ever walked into the ring. I love Mike as much as the next guy, but Ali feasted on guys who were mental midgets (see Sonny Liston, young George Foreman). Tyson was so easily thrown off his game that he bit a guy's ear off for "playing too rough"...

Mismatch.

[eliteballer]

Foreman was like a 6-4 Tyson.

[BigBoss]

Tyson

[BigBoss]

I'm going with Muhammad Ali.

Mike Tyson might've been strong, but Ali was too quick.

http://i.imgur.com/LRZwzN5.gif

The GOAT. This dude dodged 21 ****ing punches.

http://i.imgur.com/uYeZWED.gif

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/834530/tyson-shadow-boxing-o.gif

Tyson's quick too. And Ali's never been hit by someone like Tyson before.

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1174791/2401054_o.gif

Tyson was sociopathic during his prime, he was ruthless and was punching to kill. That's why I give him the edge over ANYBODY prime vs prime.

[DonDadda59]

Tyson's quick too. And Ali's never been hit by someone like Tyson before.

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[BigBoss]

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Tyson is the most powerful puncher in boxing history. If you dispute that then you're an idiot.

[DonDadda59]

Tyson is the most powerful puncher in boxing history. If you dispute that then you're an idiot.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/79/79d69f096a7ceb3622d6f98ae9a40f4730fd1d7834f0521685 304edcaf2dd611.jpg

[ThePhantomCreep]

Foreman in Rumble in the Jungle can attest to that but I do think prime Tyson punched harder than anyone Ali fought (personally).

Foreman hit harder, but was much slower. Tyson was basically Frazier on steroids--harder punch, better footwork, better defense, superior at stringing together punches. What he lacked was Frazier's endurance, big time.

If Tyson doesn't finish Ali off within 6 rounds, he'd lose for sure.

[iTare]

Tyson is the most powerful puncher in boxing history. If you dispute that then you're an idiot.
So not true.
How about you do some research, dummy.

[Orlando Magic]

No boxer in the history of boxing can match the combination of speed + power that Tyson had. Some may have been faster, some may have been more powerful. Anyone better at both? Nope.

Now... as to whether or not that would allow him to beat Ali will forever be unseen, but I think it would.

The dude had hands as fast as lightning and as strong as sledgehammers.

[DonDadda59]

So not true.
How about you do some research, dummy.

I'm saying doe :oldlol:

Tyson- 50 wins (44 by KO) 76% KO ratio

George Foreman- 76 wins (68 by KO) 84% KO ratio

Iron Mike wanted NO part of a fat, old Big George. George was fighting the same caliber opponent in his 40s, about 15-20 years past his prime, that Mike was in his actual prime. He won the HW title against an undefeated Michael Moorer (who Tyson didn't face btw) at age 45. Goes to show just how stacked the HW division was during George's prime and how pathetic it had become by the time Mike was the tomato can assassin. :oldlol:


No boxer in the history of boxing can match the combination of speed + power that Tyson had. Some may have been faster, some may have been more powerful. Anyone better at both? Nope.

Now... as to whether or not that would allow him to beat Ali will forever be unseen, but I think it would.

The dude had hands as fast as lightning and as strong as sledgehammers.

The dude was smashed by James Buster Muhphucking Douglas.

Cue the usual excuses- he didn't train, Cus had died, he was way past prime at 23, yadda yadda yadda.

Dude got MURKED by any tall fighter who actually knew how to box. Buster, Evander (twice), Lennox. Bowe would've schooled him too.

[That_Admiral]

Tyson was sociopathic during his prime, he was ruthless and was punching to kill. That's why I give him the edge over ANYBODY prime vs prime.
The funny thing is though that Tyson never reached his full peak, after Cus died he dramatically fell off and stopped training. And then you had, bloody Don King, ****ing him in the ass.
I think it would have been great to see Tyson at his full potential, with Cus at his side

[ThePhantomCreep]

The funny thing is though that Tyson never reached his full peak, after Cus died he dramatically fell off and stopped training. And then you had, bloody Don King, ****ing him in the ass.
I think it would have been great to see Tyson at his full potential, with Cus at his side
We saw enough from 1985-1992 to conclude that he'd crush most boxers in history. The Buster Douglas fluke notwithstanding.

[ThePhantomCreep]

I'm saying doe :oldlol:

Tyson- 50 wins (44 by KO) 76% KO ratio

George Foreman- 76 wins (68 by KO) 84% KO ratio

Iron Mike wanted NO part of a fat, old Big George. George was fighting the same caliber opponent in his 40s, about 15-20 years past his prime, that Mike was in his actual prime. He won the HW title against an undefeated Michael Moorer (who Tyson didn't face btw) at age 45. Goes to show just how stacked the HW division was during George's prime and how pathetic it had become by the time Mike was the tomato can assassin. :oldlol:


The dude was smashed by James Buster Muhphucking Douglas.

Cue the usual excuses- he didn't train, Cus had died, he was way past prime at 23, yadda yadda yadda.

Dude got MURKED by any tall fighter who actually knew how to box. Buster, Evander (twice), Lennox. Bowe would've schooled him too.


Louis was knocked out twice with one punch. Peak Tyson murders him.

Tyson was usually the smaller fighter in the ring and beat many tall fighters circa 1985-1992. The Douglas fight was a fluke, simple as that.

[DonDadda59]

Louis was knocked out twice with one punch. Peak Tyson murders him.

Lennox was too big and too skilled for Mike. He toys with him at any point of their professional careers. Hell, in '88 when Mike was fighting the ghost of Larry Holmes coming off of 2 consecutive losses, Tony Tubbs, and a blown up LHW who was scared to death in Michael Spinks... Lennox was fighting Bowe in the Olympics. Mike avoided Bowe like the plague... openly, and used their 'friendship' as an excuse not to face him.


Tyson was usually the smaller fighter in the ring and beat many tall fighters circa 1985-1992.

Right, and who did he face that had the skill level of a Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, etc during that span?


The Douglas fight was a fluke, simple as that.

A fluke is getting caught with a lucky punch. Buster straight beat him up and knocked him into Bolivian. He was exactly what Mike couldn't deal with- a tall, skilled fighter who knew how to move and box. Albeit a B caliber version of that.

[deja vu]

Tyson is the most powerful puncher in boxing history. If you dispute that then you're an idiot.
No. Ernie Shavers is. And most likely George Foreman.

[KyleKong]

No. Ernie Shavers is. And most likely George Foreman.
http://www.bestboxingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Joe-Louis.jpg

[DCL]

if you eat a tyson uppercut, your ass ain't getting up. good night. stars and tweety birds spinning around your head.

[RedBlackAttack]

The funny thing is though that Tyson never reached his full peak, after Cus died he dramatically fell off and stopped training. And then you had, bloody Don King, ****ing him in the ass.
I think it would have been great to see Tyson at his full potential, with Cus at his side
I'm not saying the guy's career wasn't, in some way, impacted by the death of his mentor, but people take it a little too far when they act as though he went from being this ferocious, unbeatable monster with Cus to a lost soul without him.

The truth is, Cus D'Amato died in November of 1985.

Up to that point, Tyson's biggest wins had been against Donnie Long (15-3) and Michael "Jack" Johnson (11-5). And, even in those fights Cus was too sick to do much more than watch from afar.

Tyson was just 10-0 when Cus died and had fought no one of any consequence.

His biggest victories in the mid-to-late 1980s against Trevor Berbick, Tony Tucker (a close fight, btw), Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks?

All of those came years after Cus was dead. I said it before and I'll say it again... there is no athlete in the history of sports that gets the leeway and the excuse-making that Tyson did/does.

Otherwise intelligent, reasonable people will toss out all objectivity when it comes to correctly rating Mike Tyson. He always had serious flaws as a fighter. As is the case with most fighters, they didn't really begin to show until he started stepping into the ring with other elite guys or guys that were all wrong for him stylistically (Douglas).

[ThePhantomCreep]

I'm not saying the guy's career wasn't, in some way, impacted by the death of his mentor, but people take it a little too far when they act as though he went from being this ferocious, unbeatable monster with Cus to a lost soul without him.

The truth is, Cus D'Amato died in November of 1985.

Up to that point, Tyson's biggest wins had been against Donnie Long (15-3) and Michael "Jack" Johnson (11-5). And, even in those fights Cus was too sick to do much more than watch from afar.

Tyson was just 10-0 when Cus died and had fought no one of any consequence.

His biggest victories in the mid-to-late 1980s against Trevor Berbick, Tony Tucker (a close fight, btw), Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks?

All of those came years after Cus was dead. I said it before and I'll say it again... there is no athlete in the history of sports that gets the leeway and the excuse-making that Tyson did/does.

Otherwise intelligent, reasonable people will toss out all objectivity when it comes to correctly rating Mike Tyson. He always had serious flaws as a fighter. As is the case with most fighters, they didn't really begin to show until he started stepping into the ring with other elite guys or guys that were all wrong for him stylistically (Douglas).

No, he did not.

KO power with either hand, tremendous handspeed and accuracy with his combos, excellent head movement, good chin, stellar defense, good footwork, and a strong workrate. Pre-King/Givens he was as close to flawless as a heavyweight champion can be.

[RedBlackAttack]

No, he did not.

KO power with either hand, tremendous handspeed and accuracy with his combos, excellent head movement, good chin, stellar defense, good footwork, and a strong workrate. Pre-King/Givens he was as close to flawless as a heavyweight champion can be.
He was a mental midget who tended not to utilize his jab enough when coming forward, went for the homerun far too often instead of letting it come to him and was always susceptible to a bigger man who could box/punch.

A lot of boxers would look "perfect" fighting the likes of Mike Jameson, Pinklon Thomas and Mitch "Blood" Green. Tony Tucker laid out the blueprint of how to beat Mike long before Douglas did the deed. That was in 1987... before Michael Spinks or Larry Holmes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1a48q5HtlE

Tucker just didn't have the mental fortitude to apply the gameplan of taking the fight to Tyson over a full 12-round fight... and, even still, it was a very good fight. He was peppering Tyson with lead uppercuts all night long, because he barrels in, not using his jab.

Did I mention Tucker did this with a broken hand?

[ThePhantomCreep]

He was a mental midget who tended not to utilize his jab enough when coming forward, went for the homerun far too often instead of letting it come to him and was always susceptible to a bigger man who could box/punch.

A lot of boxers would look "perfect" fighting the likes of Mike Jameson, Pinklon Thomas and Mitch "Blood" Green. Tony Tucker laid out the blueprint of how to beat Mike long before Douglas did the deed. That was in 1987... before Michael Spinks or Larry Holmes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1a48q5HtlE

Tucker just didn't have the mental fortitude to apply the gameplan of taking the fight to Tyson over a full 12-round fight... and, even still, it was a very good fight. He was peppering Tyson with lead uppercuts all night long, because he barrels in, not using his jab.

Did I mention Tucker did this with a broken hand?

Tyson cruised to an easy unanimous decision over Tucker to become undisputed champion. Tucker won a moral victory by going the distance, but that's pretty much it.

Tyson style wasn't really dependent on a consistent jab either. He used occasionally to set up punches, but he used hooks as well. He was pressure fighter who cut off the ring, got inside his opponents jab and once there, rained haymakers to the head and body. That's Jack Dempsey, that's Rocky Marciano, that's Joe Frazier. They weren't known for their jabs either. It takes a special kind of fighter to fight that style, as it requires constant head movement, and a high workrate. Tyson as champion fought this style better than any boxer in history.

Tyson's only real flaw was he tended to fade in later rounds. I'd favor Ali for this reason.

[RedBlackAttack]

Tyson cruised to an easy unanimous decision over Tucker to become undisputed champion. Tucker won a moral victory by going the distance, but that's pretty much it.

Did you watch the fight? Tyson was actually rocked with a hard uppercut about a minute into the fight... it was the hardest punch he had ever taken up to that point and it happened almost immediately. Tucker did extremely well for large chunks of that fight.

Again, laid the foundation for what came later. And, this isn't Evander Holyfield we're talking about, here. It's Tony Tucker.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Did you watch the fight? Tyson was actually rocked with a hard uppercut about a minute into the fight... it was the hardest punch he had ever taken up to that point and it happened almost immediately. Tucker did extremely well for large chunks of that fight.

Again, laid the foundation for what came later. And, this isn't Evander Holyfield we're talking about, here. It's Tony Tucker.

Tucker was actually a pretty good fighter, 34-0 when he fought Tyson. He ran up a 52-2 record at one point, his only two losses coming to Tyson and Lewis (by decision). He beat Douglas, McCall, and Orlin Norris along the way. He's no ATG, but he wasn't a can either. Pinklon Thomas was decent too.

Tucker was definitely game, but Tyson was clearly superior.

[eliteballer]

What about Tyson vs. Marciano? Two brawlers of similar size.