'12 LeBron James - The Greatest Season of All Time?

[mehyaM24]

- wins regular season mvp
- goes 75% of the postseason without his 3rd best player
- has one of the greatest elimination game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg) performances of all time
- beats the second best player in the finals/leading scorer in the league
- has one the greatest playoff/finals ever by all objective measures and data
- wins finals mvp
- leads Team USA to gold via Olympics
- Wins Male Athlete of the Year award via ESPYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvgkwOcuIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awNbKGDqQyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSgMRrclOLI

RS: 27/8/7 on 53%FG & 31 PER
Playoffs: 30/10/6 on 51%FG & 30 PER

^checkout these numbers (:eek: at the double-double in the postseason). if not the greatest season, its gotta be #1 in the modern era.

[JohnFreeman]

Certainly up there

[NBAplayoffs2001]

- wins regular season mvp
- goes 75% of the postseason without his 3rd best player
- has one of the greatest elimination (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg) game performances of all time
- beats the second best player in the finals/leading scorer in the league
- has one the greatest playoff/finals ever by all objective measures and data
- wins finals mvp
- leads Team USA to gold via Olympics
- Wins Male Athlete of the Year award via ESPYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvgkwOcuIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awNbKGDqQyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSgMRrclOLI

RS: 27/8/7 on 53%FG & 31 PER
Playoffs: 30/10/6 on 51%FG & 30.3 PER

^checkout these numbers (:eek: at the double-double in the postseason). if not the greatest season, its gotta be #1 in the modern era.

MJ 1991 destroys this...

[Warfan]

Definitely great, but certainly not the greatest...

[J Shuttlesworth]

No Christmas MVP, no care.

[mehyaM24]

MJ 1991 destroys this...

jordan's 91 season MIGHT be comparble, but he certainly doesn't "destroy this". by any measure. jordan did not win a gold medal nor lead his team in the olympics in 91.

[3ball]

We now know how inexperienced and basically bad at basketball the Thunder were at that time, despite their young talent.

[KBaller33]

One of the greatest, but 2000 Shaq or any Jordan season from 88-93 would top it or be close.

[SouBeachTalents]

We now know how inexperienced and basically bad at basketball the Thunder were at that time, despite their young talent.

:facepalm

[NBAplayoffs2001]

jordan's 91 season MIGHT be comparble, but he certainly doesn't "destroy this". by any measure. jordan did not win a gold medal nor lead his team in the olympics in 91.

Yeah because the olympics wasn't that year :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:. Tell me when LeBron the great "passer" averages 10+ assists in the finals and is one missed game winner from sweeping the Lakers.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Top 10 maybe. Definitely the best since PEAK Shaq.


We now know how inexperienced and basically bad at basketball the Thunder were at that time, despite their young talent.

Dumb post. Bad at basketball? Really? Durant, Westbrook and Harden, individually, were/are franchise level players. Not only that, but they beat a heavily favored Spurs team on their way to the finals.

[T_L_P]

What data suggests it was even one of the five greatest Finals performances?

It's obviously up there (whole season), but the Finals was not one of the greatest, depending on what you view as the "greatest".

[NBAplayoffs2001]

What data suggests it was even one of the five greatest Finals performances?
:lebronamazed: The OP's love for LeBron.

[JT123]

What data suggests it was even one of the five greatest Finals performances?

It's obviously up there (whole season), but the Finals was not one of the greatest, depending on what you view as the "greatest".
hater alert. :facepalm
Duncan will never have a signature playoff performance like Lebron did in Boston. You mad?

[T_L_P]

hater alert. :facepalm
Duncan will never have a signature playoff performance like Lebron did in Boston. You mad?

So...how exactly was his Finals one of the greatest?

None of the numbers back up that claim. And one of your jacked up posts do, either. :facepalm

Also, who cares about it being a signature performance? Duncan has had better series than LeBron's against Boston.

[mehyaM24]

What data suggests it was even one of the five greatest Finals performances?

It's obviously up there (whole season), but the Finals was not one of the greatest, depending on what you view as the "greatest".

first of all, where did i claim that lebron had "one of the five greatest finals performance"? your irrational haste to discredit lebron clouds your thinking.

[Milbuck]

hater alert. :facepalm
Duncan will never have a signature playoff performance like Lebron did in Boston. You mad?
Duncan had a 20-20 near quadruple double in a championship clinching game :oldlol:

[JT123]

So...how exactly was his Finals one of the greatest?

None of the numbers back up that claim. And one of your jacked up posts do, either. :facepalm

Also, who cares about it being a signature performance? Duncan has had better series than LeBron's against Boston.
The thread is about overall SEASON, not just Finals. :facepalm
Duncan never had a complete season of dominance like Lebron had in 2012.

[mehyaM24]

Yeah because the olympics wasn't that year :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:.

which favors lebron and my OP.

not that difficult of a concept to grasp. :confusedshrug:

[T_L_P]

The thread is about overall SEASON, not just Finals. :facepalm
Duncan never had a complete season of dominance like Lebron had in 2012.

And if you read my post, you'd see that I agreed. :facepalm

The OP mentioned LeBron having one of the all-time great Finals. It's not in the top 5, arguably not even top 10, therefore it isn't. That's all I was addressing.

Bran stans and their reading comprehension.

Also, a lot of people put Duncan's 03 season over LeBron's 2012 season.

[mehyaM24]

And if you read my post, you'd see that I agreed. :facepalm

The OP mentioned LeBron having one of the all-time great Finals. It's not in the top 5, arguably not even top 10, therefore it isn't. That's all I was addressing.

why does one of the all time finals have to be top 5? quit making shit up, moron.

[T_L_P]

why does one of the all time finals have to be top 5? quit making shit up, moron.

You basically called it the best season ever, Playoffs/Finals included - by all objective measures apparently.

I treated the Finals as such. It's not top 5 by any objective measure, so it's not one of the all-time great Finals, in relation to your original post.

Your post should read as follows:

"GOAT regular season/Playoffs up until the Finals. Barely a top 10 effort when he got there."

[SouBeachTalents]

You basically called it the best season ever, Playoffs/Finals included - by all objective measures apparently.

I treated the Finals as such. It's not top 5 by any objective measure, so it's not one of the all-time great Finals, in relation to your original post.

Your post should read as follows:

"GOAT regular season/Playoffs up until the Finals. Barely a top 10 effort when he got there."

****ing ball breaker over here lol

[Inferno]

http://i.imgur.com/lAZ1L.gif

[mehyaM24]

You basically called it the best season ever, Playoffs/Finals included - by all objective measures apparently.

all included in being one of the best seasons of all time. that doesn't mean he had THE greatest finals ever.

big difference.


I treated the Finals as such.

well don't. because nobody is arguing whether his finals is top 5 or not.

once again, discuss the topic at hand or kindly see yourself out. dunce.

[T_L_P]

"has one the greatest playoff/finals ever by all objective measures and data"

There have been, what, 30 Finals where a top 30 player won in his prime - if that? LeBron being in the top 33% goes against the idea that his Finals, the only thing I'm even talking about, is one of the greatest.

Not saying anything about the whole season. It is certainly up there. I'm just making sure you don't misinform the ISH public. I'm surprised you're not thanking me.

[mehyaM24]

"has one the greatest playoff/finals ever by all objective measures and data"

There have been, what, 30 Finals where a top 20 player won in his prime, if that? LeBron being in the top 33% goes against the idea that his Finals, the only thing I'm even talking about, is one of the greatest.

Not saying anything about the whole season. It is certainly up there. I'm just making sure you don't misinform the ISH public. I'm surprised you're not thanking me.

but, lebron did have one of the greatest playoff and finals runs of all time. :confusedshrug:

his actual playoff run (30/10/6), which includes the finals, is quite clearly top 10.

what you're arguing is semantics. by all means, though, keep making a fool of yourself.

[T_L_P]

but, lebron did have one of the greatest playoff and finals runs of all time. :confusedshrug:

what you're arguing is semantics. by all means, though, keep making a fool of yourself.

No, he had one of the greatest Playoff runs ever. His Finals didn't compare to it.

And since you think it does, as that's what you wrote ("has one of the greatest finals ever by all measurable data"), could you share these data sources?

Oh, and your post is wrong. His 30/10/6 Playoff run is top 5.

[tpols]

Its funny how duncan whooping lebrons ass in the finals has led his legion of stans to decalre war on him. :oldlol: Duncan hasnt garnered an ounce of disrespect before he faced lebron and beat him.

[mehyaM24]

No, he had one of the greatest Playoff runs ever. His Finals didn't compare to it.

his finals are arguably top 10 according to you. that IS one of the greatest ever.

simply breaking it down and comparing it to the other top 30 players of all time (33%) and 30 finals they made is silly. there have been thousands of nba players since the league was created. when we create all time lists, we compare said players to not just their peers and guys with similar numbers, but all players from previous eras.


Oh, and you're post is wrong. His 30/10/6 Playoff run is top 5.

you misspelled your. please correct that, ok? :hammerhead:

[SouBeachTalents]

Its funny how duncan whooping lebrons ass in the finals has led his legion of stans to decalre war on him. :oldlol: Duncan hasnt garnered an ounce of disrespect before he faced lebron and beat him.

He wasn't Finals MVP in any of his series against LeBron

[T_L_P]

his finals are arguably top 10 according to you. that IS one of the greatest ever.

simply breaking it down and comparing it to the other top 30 players of all time (33%) and 30 finals they made is silly. there have been thousands of nba players since the league was created. when we create all time lists, we compare said players to not just their peers and guys with similar numbers, but all players from previous eras.



you misspelled your. please correct that, ok? :hammerhead:

Edited the post. I'd appreciate you unquoting me so nobody notices the mishap.

I'm glad we're in agreement. Top 5 season, top 10-15 Finals. Production, as per, goes down on the toughest stage, against teams from the infinitely better conference. But he made up for that with his performances against his Eastern foes. :cheers:

[mehyaM24]

Edited the post. I'd appreciate you unquoting me so nobody notices the mishap.

I'm glad we're in agreement. Top 5 season, top 10-15 Finals. Production, as per, goes down on the toughest stage, against teams from the infinitely better conference. But he made up for that with his performances against his Eastern foes. :cheers:

but, i never agreed with you. i believe lebron's season, when we include everything in my OP, is at least top 3 and probably the greatest in the modern era.

where just his finals rate, im not sure. but that isnt what this thread is about.

[tpols]

He wasn't Finals MVP in any of his series against LeBron

doesnt matter.. he guaranteed victory against your team and you and your leader tucked tail.

[SouBeachTalents]

doesnt matter.. he guaranteed victory against your team and you and your leader tucked tail.

It does matter, you claimed Duncan kicked LeBron's ass, yet LeBron's won more Finals MVP's in the series they've played against each other

[TheMan]

LeBron's '12 season is one of the greatest, not the greatest. Other legends have comparable seasons to LBJ's '12 campaign. Gotta give credit where credit is due, after Bron's dismal '11 Finals, the cat came back with a vengeance.

[dubeta]

LeBron's '12 season is one of the greatest, not the greatest. Other legends have comparable seasons to LBJ's '12 campaign. Gotta give credit where credit is due, after Bron's dismal '11 Finals, the cat came back with a vengeance.

you're right

After 2012 I finally realized that lebron is so >> MJ that there shouldnt even be a discussion :applause:

[SouBeachTalents]

you're right

After 2012 I finally realized that lebron is so >> MJ that there shouldnt even be a discussion :applause:

Everyone else realized after 2011 that Jordan > LeBron

[dubeta]

Everyone else realized after 2011 that Jordan > LeBron

Why u hate bran? :cry:

[SouBeachTalents]

Why u hate bran? :cry:

Why you hate Jordan/Kobe/Wade/Bosh?

[dubeta]

Why you hate Jordan/Kobe/Wade/Bosh?

I Like Jordan

Wade was amazing from 03-10 Great in 2011 Pretty good in 2012

Bosh was great 03-10 Good in 11-12


Just not Kobe

[ArbitraryWater]

We now know how inexperienced and basically bad at basketball the Thunder were at that time, despite their young talent.

Boy you just come off like a total retard when you're not copy&pasting over posts from other boards.. Clown.

[K Xerxes]

It was a great individual season (especially considering the circumstances) and top 3 since MJ retired, along with Shaq 00 and Duncan 03 in some order. MJ's 91-93 were greater though, as was Hakeem 94-95. Nothing to be ashamed of.

[tmacattack33]

I would have one or two of Shaq's years ahead of it.

I also like to look at a period of at least 2 years when talking about peaks, so as to get rid of isolated hot streaks...like Dirk's playoffs in 2011. And so 2000-2002 Shaq would beat 2011-2013 (or 2012-2014) Lebron.

[ILLsmak]

One of the greatest, but 2000 Shaq or any Jordan season from 88-93 would top it or be close.


Yea SHAQ cuz of the rest of his team. 2000 Shaq is mad underrated and the team was not a playoff team without him.

-Smak