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sportjames23
08-16-2014, 07:30 PM
Without Artest ballin his ass off in Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals vs the Celts, Kobe would be 4-3 in the Finals. Still good, but it'd only confirm why Kobe was not on MJ's level. Hell, Pau Gasol was ballin' hard, too. Kobe actually is in debt to two players regarding his legacy.

And of course, without Ray Ray's Miracle in Miami, Lebron would be 1-4 in the Finals. Lebron might not even be considered Top Ten All Time as many say he is now.
SouBeachTalents
08-16-2014, 07:33 PM
Allen, but every all time great has been "bailed out" by teammates in the playoffs before
oarabbus
08-16-2014, 07:38 PM
Pippen
Beastmode88
08-16-2014, 07:44 PM
Allen, cause if (in before pauk) he didn't make that shot lebron wouldn't just be 1-4 he would go down for missing back to back 3 point shots when it mattered. 0 clutch gene.
Lebronxrings
08-16-2014, 07:49 PM
artest, allen made only one shot, while artest helped carry the lakers for an entire playoff run.
Real14
08-16-2014, 08:02 PM
100% allen.
Angel Face
08-16-2014, 08:04 PM
Ray Allen's bail out shot
LakersFan626
08-16-2014, 09:49 PM
artest, allen made only one shot, while artest helped carry the lakers for an entire playoff run.

So Kobe having 30 points or more in 11 out of 12 games wasn't carrying the team?

Allen. Miami would have lost the series if he didn't hit that three.
DwnShft2Xcelr8
08-16-2014, 09:54 PM
Without Ray's shot, who is putting LeBron anywhere in the top 10... other than his Stans, of course? No one.
Eric Cartman
08-16-2014, 10:19 PM
Ray's shot cause it gave Lebron a chance to go bezerk in game 7, Wade played great as well that game.
SouBeachTalents
08-16-2014, 10:21 PM
Ray's shot cause it gave Lebron a chance to go bezerk in game 7, Wade played great as well that game.

As did this man

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/15161479/170989656.0_standard_352.0.jpg
Lebronxrings
08-16-2014, 10:25 PM
without both, neither lakers nor heat would have won. Stop with the trolling now.
dubeta
08-16-2014, 10:26 PM
Artest MVP of Game 7

Allen 0 points in Game 7

/thread
Eric Cartman
08-16-2014, 10:27 PM
As did this man

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/15161479/170989656.0_standard_352.0.jpg

Wtf? He was invisible in game 7.

Held scoreless.
SouBeachTalents
08-16-2014, 10:28 PM
Artest MVP of Game 7

Allen 0 points in Game 7

/thread

I'd say Gasol was