View Full Version : Why is it nobody in the NBA right now knows how to post up?
keep-itreal
08-17-2014, 04:54 AM
seriously how hard is it? All you gotta do is just back down your defender with your back until you get close to the basket and lay it in.
Chris Bosh complains about how he can't do it because he's too weak. I don't get it
Kvnzhangyay
08-17-2014, 04:55 AM
Because its the nba?
And its not that player's can't post up (most of the time), its that the coach usually has a system that doesn't utilize post ups
T_L_P
08-17-2014, 05:00 AM
Some of the entry passing is putrid too.
It was the number one thing for a non-star PG fifteen years ago. Now guys can't even do it. :oldlol:
deja vu
08-17-2014, 05:44 AM
It's a weak era. That's why.
VengefulAngel
08-17-2014, 05:46 AM
Al Jefferson.
Purch
08-17-2014, 08:48 AM
Al Jefferson
the good big men are super skinny like davis and can't back anyone up. or, if they have the size like love, they prefer to shoot jumpers.
just a diff era, is all
i mean, 90s you have hakeem, robinson, ewing, etc. today, hibbert is an all star. this dude would be a backup in the 90s
You would think Hibbert would have a hook shot from anywhere in the paint and never miss... Being 7'2" and all
Easiest shot in basketball besides a layup. 4 ft from the basket.
Beastmode88
08-17-2014, 09:21 AM
You would think Hibbert would have a hook shot from anywhere in the paint and never miss... Being 7'2" and all
Easiest shot in basketball besides a layup. 4 ft from the basket.
Hibbert misses shots under the basket, what makes you think he can hook shot anything. :facepalm
artificial
08-17-2014, 09:35 AM
There are a few that are pretty good at posting up, although maybe not that many: Nikola Pekovic, Marc Gasol, Al Jefferson, Al Horford, Nene, Demarcus Cousins, Dwight, Z-Bo off the top of my head.
All of them play inside for at least half their offense, and are pretty good at it. However, if you are trying to say that there are few elite big men these days, I agree.
The word nobody is an exaggeration. Al Jefferson, ZBo, P. Gasol. See Duncan in the playoffs vs Ibaka, Haslem.
Hibbert misses shots under the basket, what makes you think he can hook shot anything. :facepalm
That's my point.
How hard is it to go in the gym and put up 500 hook shots a day. By end of the summer it should be damn near automatic.
dr.hee
08-17-2014, 09:55 AM
seriously how hard is it? All you gotta do is just back down your defender with your back until you get close to the basket and lay it in.
Chris Bosh complains about how he can't do it because he's too weak. I don't get it
:roll:
Have you ever played basketball before? Not on your playstation. In real life?
Dragic4Life
08-17-2014, 10:00 AM
Watch Lebron James.
Nuff Said
08-17-2014, 10:10 AM
Even lebron and wade, two of the most watched players, post up. Lol@easy to post up.
dr.hee
08-17-2014, 10:11 AM
:facepalm :roll: i didnt even read the OP, what a dipshit
He is right though. All you need to do is to press the Y-button and then RT+LS towards the hoop. Why can't that bum Bosh do it? What a loser.
Mr Exlax
08-17-2014, 01:54 PM
seriously how hard is it? All you gotta do is just back down your defender with your back until you get close to the basket and lay it in.
Chris Bosh complains about how he can't do it because he's too weak. I don't get it
Go and play some basketball. It's not as easy to post up as you might think. Top it off with posting and not getting the ball sometimes.
inclinerator
08-17-2014, 02:06 PM
its all on the pg, ive seen post players get touches for the entire half and no touches the 2nd half, whether that's by coaching or whatever idk
Isn't there such thing as the "Charles Barkley rule" or something like that?
This rules prohibits a player to dribble backing down the defendef starting from the 3 point line?
wakencdukest
08-17-2014, 03:43 PM
seriously how hard is it? All you gotta do is just back down your defender with your back until you get close to the basket and lay it in.
Chris Bosh complains about how he can't do it because he's too weak. I don't get it
That's not posting up. Posting up is getting and holding position in the post with back to the basket.
Spurs5Rings2014
08-17-2014, 06:51 PM
See Duncan in the playoffs vs Ibaka
Don't forget Boris Diaw the god. He get a smaller guy on him, he posting up every time.
:bowdown:
lakerfreak
08-17-2014, 06:55 PM
So much emphasis is put on athleticism, seeing that most superstars are now freakishly athletic, and they like their teammates to be runners too to help compliment their game.
Its no wonder the NBA removed the 'C' position from the all-star game.
Bear in mind as well that with it being a guard driven league, many guards now choose to create shots and kick it out for the extra point from the three point scorer. People hardly pass it in the paint anymore.
ImKobe
08-17-2014, 07:02 PM
Did Kobe retire?
Soundwave
08-17-2014, 07:05 PM
No one wants to learn to post up anymore. It takes forever to learn and isn't glamourous.
MC Gusto
08-17-2014, 07:15 PM
Isn't there such thing as the "Charles Barkley rule" or something like that?
This rules prohibits a player to dribble backing down the defendef starting from the 3 point line?
I thought that was the "Mark Jackson rule".
MC Gusto
08-17-2014, 07:17 PM
Because you have to learn it, and today's coaches are encouraging big men to play like guards instead of teaching them how to operate on the block.
MiseryCityTexas
08-17-2014, 07:21 PM
the good big men are super skinny like davis and can't back anyone up. or, if they have the size like love, they prefer to shoot jumpers.
just a diff era, is all
i mean, 90s you have hakeem, robinson, ewing, etc. today, hibbert is an all star. this dude would be a backup in the 90s
If they had a time machine that could get us a player that was young back in the day like a prime 1964-1965 era Walt Bellamy and bring him into this era of basketball, he would probably be the best center in the league today.
Aussie Dunker
08-17-2014, 09:58 PM
Andre Miller and Wade are two of the best smaller players who can post up,
Aldridge is clearly elite when facing up, but he still has a very solid back to the basket game
04mzwach
08-17-2014, 10:05 PM
Pekovic > everybody else
Next season prediction: 25pts/12rebs on 50% shooting
hitmanyr2k
08-18-2014, 01:24 AM
the good big men are super skinny like davis and can't back anyone up. or, if they have the size like love, they prefer to shoot jumpers.
just a diff era, is all
i mean, 90s you have hakeem, robinson, ewing, etc. today, hibbert is an all star. this dude would be a backup in the 90s
It wasn't just big men. 90's guards and forwards were adept at posting up too. Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, Barkley, Danny Manning, Wayman Tisdale, Nique, Worthy, Derrick Coleman, Larry Johnson, Glenn Robinson, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Glen Rice, Steve Smith, Penny, Nick Anderson, Drexler, Mitch Richmond, Mashburn, Juwan Howard, Mark Jackson, etc were all good/great post players. I'm sure there were more that aren't coming to mind at the moment.
dubeta
08-18-2014, 01:25 AM
LeBron is probably the last true post player in the league
livingby3's
08-18-2014, 01:36 AM
just adding another name. Dragic
Isn't there such thing as the "Charles Barkley rule" or something like that?
This rules prohibits a player to dribble backing down the defendef starting from the 3 point line?
its just a 5 second back down rule where you cant post with your back facing the defender for more than 5 seconds.
bdreason
08-18-2014, 02:50 AM
Because the modern NBA rules make it more efficient to play outside-in as opposed to inside-out. Even a team like Utah and Charlotte, whose best scorer is/was a post player (Al Jeff), refused to play inside-out basketball.
It really comes down to two major factors;
1. It's easier to double the post than it ever has been. If you know a team is going to feed the post, you can double the post before the ball even arrives, and recover on the rotation quicker as well. This wasn't possible with previous illegal defense rules.
2. Perimeter defenders aren't allowed to defend on the perimeter. This makes spacing the floor and attacking from the perimeter (FT's) incredibly efficient. It's not a coincidence that the leagues leading scorers (Harden, Durant, LeBron, etc.) all shoot a crap load of FT's.
bdreason
08-18-2014, 02:53 AM
its just a 5 second back down rule where you cant post with your back facing the defender for more than 5 seconds.
The rule actually applies even if the player faces up after beginning to back down. If you start a post up, you have 5 seconds to either pass or shoot the ball. It's the most ridiculous rule ever created in the game of basketball.
AirFederer
08-18-2014, 03:20 AM
The game is about 3 point shots now.
The rule actually applies even if the player faces up after beginning to back down. If you start a post up, you have 5 seconds to either pass or shoot the ball. It's the most ridiculous rule ever created in the game of basketball.
I would disagree from a pure basketball perspective. Younger players need go learn how to play team ball and pass the ball well.
But I agree from an NBA perspective. It is a star driven league. Star players dominate the ball more often.
That is the irony. This 5 second rule should be applied to youth games and removed from the NBA.
its just a 5 second back down rule where you cant post with your back facing the defender for more than 5 seconds.
Yea and I think this 5 second rule is what's discouraging players and coaches to do it as often as previous eras.
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