The Draft Prospects Thread.

[i seen hippos]

Talk about anything here, but I'll start off by giving you some top players at each position and you rank them accordingly. Positions based on likely NBA position:

pg:

Darren Collison
Ty Lawson
Dominac James
Mike Conley Jr.
Drew Nietzel
DJ Augustine
Mustafa Shakur
Taurean Green
Javaris Crittenton
Acie Law
Greg Paulus
Aaron Brooks
Sean Singletary
Zabian Dowdell
Scottie Reynolds
Stephan Curry

I'll do the other positions later. You can just do your top 10 if you want.

[tmacman]

Soo, this is how the draft will be like:

1. Greg Oden
2. Kevin Durant
3. Jeff Green
4. Brandan Wright
5. Julian Wright
6. Joakim Noah
7. Al Horford
8. Yi Jianlian
9. Roy Hibbert
10. Corey Brewer
11. Hasheem Thabeet
12. Thaddeus Young
13. Marco Belinelli
14. Nick Young
15. Josh McRoberts
16. Marc Gasol
17. Acie Law
18. Arron Afflalo
19. Rudy Fernandez
20. Spencer Hawes

[i seen hippos]

Jeff Green will not be a top 5 pick. Depending on work outs he could sneak into the the 8th spot or something, but not top 5.

My bad for spelling Dominac's name wrong, Sky.

[DatZNasty]

Mavs need to end up with any of the following, which are all generally realistic with where they pick

Reyshawn Terry
Demetrius Nicholes
Darryl Watkins
Jermario Davidson
Dominique James
Mustafa Shakur

[Skywalker]

I would be forced to like the Mavs if they got James. :(

[The_Masterplan]

I dont see why Acie Law is so low. Clutch, defensive and can score. I dont know whats not to like

[qwerty]

Soo, this is how the draft will be like:

1. Greg Oden
2. Kevin Durant
3. Jeff Green
4. Brandan Wright
5. Julian Wright
6. Joakim Noah
7. Al Horford
8. Yi Jianlian
9. Roy Hibbert
10. Corey Brewer
11. Hasheem Thabeet
12. Thaddeus Young
13. Marco Belinelli
14. Nick Young
15. Josh McRoberts
16. Marc Gasol
17. Acie Law
18. Arron Afflalo
19. Rudy Fernandez
20. Spencer Hawes


:oldlol:

[despurs]

Hasheem Thabeet = Patrick o'bryant

[Jailblazers7]

I really like Sean Singletary i think he can be a pretty good PG even with his lack of size. But he needs to improve his shot selection drastically.

[i seen hippos]

My top 20 draft board looks like this (without team needs in mind):

1. Greg Oden
2. Kevin Durant
3. Joakim Noah (his games in march have reassured me of this)
4. Brandon Wright
5. Spencer Hawes
6. Yi Jianlian
7. Josh McRoberts (imo case were player is better pro than amateur)
8. Mike Conley Jr.
9. Nick Young
10. Al Horford
11. Corey Brewer
12. Acie Law
13. Marcus Williams
14. Jeff Green
15. Roy Hibbert
16. Ty Lawson
17. Al Thornton
18. Tiago Splitter
19. Rudy Fernandez
20. Brandon Rush

Nick Young is nothing to laugh it.

[A-MATT]

Morris Almond could be a steal for some NBA team in the late 1st rd. pick.

[A-MATT]

I dont see why Acie Law is so low. Clutch, defensive and can score. I dont know whats not to like

Thank you. The guy is a clutch scorer and a big reson instead of Jones of why Texas A and M was good.

[A-MATT]

What rd. u think Big Baby is goin.

[i seen hippos]

As far as my original post goes, this is how'd I rank the top 10 pg prospects:

1. Mike Conley Jr.
2. Acie Law
3. Ty Lawson
4. Darren Collison
5. Dominic James
6. Stephan Curry
7. DJ Augustine (has to learn how to be a pg more than the res though)
8. Javaris Crittenton
9. Sean Singletary
10. Taurean Green

[tmacman]

My top 20 draft board looks like this (without team needs in mind):

1. Greg Oden
2. Kevin Durant
3. Joakim Noah (his games in march have reassured me of this)
4. Brandon Wright
5. Spencer Hawes
6. Yi Jianlian
7. Josh McRoberts (imo case were player is better pro than amateur)
8. Mike Conley Jr.
9. Nick Young
10. Al Horford
11. Corey Brewer
12. Marcus Williams
13. Jeff Green
14. Roy Hibbert
15. Ty Lawson
16. Al Thornton
17. Tiago Splitter
18. Rudy Fernandez
19. Brandon Rush
20. Jason Smith

Nick Young is nothing to laugh it.


:wtf: Where on earth is Julian Wright? Acie Law? Arron Afflalo?

[A-MATT]

As far as my original post goes, this is how'd I rank the top 10 pg prospects:

1. Mike Conley Jr.
2. Acie Law
3. Ty Lawson
4. Darren Collison
5. Dominic James
6. Stephan Curry
7. DJ Augustine (has to learn how to be a pg more than the res though)
8. Javaris Crittenton
9. Sean Singletary
10. Taurean Green

Ty Lawson is not going to declare for the draft this years.

This is my top PG Prospects for this years draft.

1. Acie Law
2. Gabe Priutt
3. Aaron Brooks
4. Bobby Brown (from a small college)
5. Dominic James
6. Jamaal Tatum
7. Jamon Gordon

Bottom Line: The PG class is weak.

[i seen hippos]

OH ****...when i was making my list i thought i forgot someone but couldn't think of who, so i left it. lol...i'll fix that.

And Wright supposedly said he's staying at Kansas.


Ty Lawson is not going to declare for the draft this years.


Just pro prospects in general. not necessarily going this year.

[A-MATT]

Hasheem Thabeet = Patrick o'bryant

What! Hasheem Thabeet=Mutombo

[A-MATT]

OH ****...when i was making my list i thought i forgot someone but couldn't think of who so i left it. lol...i'll fix that.

And Wright supposedly said he's staying at Kansas.



Just pro prospects in general. not necessarily going this year.

My bad.

[A-MATT]

:wtf: Where on earth is Julian Wright? Acie Law? Arron Afflalo?

It was a rumor that Julian Wright was going to stay another year.

[i seen hippos]

Only a rumour? DraftExpress took him off their 2007 mock draft.

[A-MATT]

Only a rumour? DraftExpress took him off their 2007 mock draft.

And also Nbadraft.net did too.

[i seen hippos]

ya, so i think it's true....when you said rumour i thought you believed it wasn't true.

[i seen hippos]

As for Aaron Afflalo, i don't think he's going to have a big NBA career. He's a jump shooter in the NBA and that's it. Not really athletic either. Won't stay in front of many people in the big leagus and it's not like his jumper is JJ Redick smooth or anything....not like it's working for JJ right now anyways.

[Jailblazers7]

Hippos do you really think Nick Young will go that high? I know he is good and he is one of my favorites in college basketball but is he really a top 10 type player. I have limited knowledge of him because i dont get to see his games very often. I can see that he has good stats at 17/5 per game.

[i seen hippos]

So many guards get drafted high based on athleticism, but they can't penetrate and they struggle a lot of the time.

When you have a guy that can actually dribble the ball and has athleticism, you take him asap.

[BradMiller52]

Ty Lawson is not going to declare for the draft this years.

This is my top PG Prospects for this years draft.

1. Acie Law
2. Gabe Priutt
3. Aaron Brooks
4. Bobby Brown (from a small college)
5. Dominic James
6. Jamaal Tatum
7. Jamon Gordon

Bottom Line: The PG class is weak.


I am sure 1 or 2 of the PGs nobody thinks will declare actually declares.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Durant
Oden
Wright
Noah
B Wright
Horford

[statman32]

As far as my original post goes, this is how'd I rank the top 10 pg prospects:

1. Mike Conley Jr.
2. Acie Law
3. Ty Lawson
4. Darren Collison
5. Dominic James
6. Stephan Curry
7. DJ Augustine (has to learn how to be a pg more than the res though)
8. Javaris Crittenton
9. Sean Singletary
10. Taurean Green

I love Stephan Curry but he is not a pg.

My list:

1. Mike Conley Jr.
2. Darren Collison
3. Ty Lawson
4. Acie Law
5. Javaris Crittendon
6. Dominic James
7. Scottie Reynolds
8. Sean Singletary
9. D.J Augustine
10. Gabe Pruitt

[i seen hippos]

There are some grey areas. Is Law a true pg or will he be considered a combo guard. Either way, he will be more Marbury/Davis than Nash/Kidd.

Curry will have to be a pg in the NBA imo. He has the tools to be one as well.

[The_Masterplan]

Man, you guys really underrated Acie Law. Hes #1 WITHOUT A DOUBT. He got All-first team honors and was the best clutch performer in the nation. The only time he wasnt clutch was against memphis with the missed layup. He was clutch in every other game. He was clutch in lousiville game so dont give me the "not clutch in the tournament when it really counts" bs.

He is a decent defender. Guards drove inside all day in the lousville game but besides from that he isnt that bad.

Assists are up there and can play at a slow or quick pace which suits any style of play.

[statman32]

Man, you guys really underrated Acie Law. Hes #1 WITHOUT A DOUBT. He got All-first team honors and was the best clutch performer in the nation. The only time he wasnt clutch was against memphis with the missed layup. He was clutch in every other game. He was clutch in lousiville game so dont give me the "not clutch in the tournament when it really counts" bs.

He is a decent defender. Guards drove inside all day in the lousville game but besides from that he isnt that bad.

Assists are up there and can play at a slow or quick pace which suits any style of play.
Hes not underrated at all. Yes he was the best pg this year in college but that doesnt really mean a whole lot in the NBA.

Hes a combo guard with not much explosiveness. He cant finish hard, and hasnt really shown he can make his teammates better. Not a very good defender and passer either. At best I see him as a decent backuppg/sg,

Lawson/Collison/Conley will all be better point guards imo.

[The_Masterplan]

Hes not underrated at all. Yes he was the best pg this year in college but that doesnt really mean a whole lot in the NBA.

Hes a combo guard with not much explosiveness. He cant finish hard, and hasnt really shown he can make his teammates better. Not a very good defender and passer either. At best I see him as a decent backuppg/sg,

Lawson/Collison/Conley will all be better point guards imo.
You bring up a good point. Maybe a little better development and he can be a good SG. I could see him as an iverson but not nearly as good as him. Hes a little too tall to be a PG but plays like one in college.

[statman32]

You bring up a good point. Maybe a little better development and he can be a good SG. I could see him as an iverson but not nearly as good as him. Hes a little too tall to be a PG but plays like one in college.

Yah I agree...He still can devleop to the point he can be a great 6th man and spot starter. I dont know who I would compare him with.

Anyways, did you hear Billy G might leave A&M for Arkansas?? :confusedshrug: Whats the word in Texas??

[monthh]

I think Law is the top prospect in this years draft unless Conley leaves. I think he is on the lottery bubble, and could go like 10th or 11th if a team needs a point bad. He is the type of guy that doesn't do anything amazing, but does a lot of things well. If Conley leaves though, I think he takes over as the top PG prospect and perhaps goes 10th or 11th if a team needs him.

Outside of that, this is a weak PG class. Brooks should get drafted, but I don't think he will be a star. I don't think Pruitt will be anything special. I wouldn't take him in the first round this year if he leaves. I like Shakur, although he hasn't done enough to warrant a 1st round pick. There really isn't anyone else I would even consider being worth an early 2nd round pick. I think Bobby Brown will probably be taken just because he is a PG.

There are a few other guys I like that may need to become more PG like in the NBA to survive. I think Zabian Dowdell could make the league as a combo guard. Same with JR Renyolds, Jarrius Jackson, and Derek Raivio. I don't excpet any to be more than journeymen though. I do think all are just about as good as a point as Tatum and Gordon doesn't have the shot to be a backup in the NBA I don't think.

The only way this is even a decent PG class is if Conley, Lawson, Crittenton, Augustin, and/or Collison enter the draft. As a college basketball fan, I hope none of them do. I also think that if they enter, Taurean Green, Singletary, Tyrese Rice, and/or James could at least make the class seem somewhat respectable. Again though, I hope none leave early.

I do think a few players are getting way underrated at other positions though. Fazekas is a solid prospect, despite his tournament problems. Rush and Afflalo are also better prospects than I think people make them out to be. I would draft both in the teens if they leave. Some people also have Dudley towards the end of the 2nd round. This guy will be a solid 10 and 4 guy off the bench for somebody. To me, that is worth more than some late pick.

I think the number of overrated players outweighs the underrated players though. I don't think Jeff Green is as great as people make him out to be. Solid, but I honestly don't know if he will do much more than the 10 and 4 I predicted for Dudley. Also, just because he played one good game, I don't think Hibbert is a top 10 pick. I have fought for him to go higher than the 20's, but now he is just being overrated by 5 to 10 picks. Same thing with Derrick Byars. Nice player, but a good tournament and good season doesn't mean he will be that great in the pros. I would knock him down about 10 to 15 picks to the end the 1st round. And why is it that a guy like Jason Smith is being taken so much higher than Fazekas on nbadraft.net? What does Smith do so much better?

And please don't anyone think I am hating on these guys. You can look in the college/draft forums, and I have supported Hibbert as much as anyone. I also have like Byars and felt he should be looked at early in the 2nd round a while ago. After seeing him in the tournament I would draft him in the last 5 or so picks in the 1st round.

And on another point, I think this is looking like a pretty deep draft overall, with a lot of nice prospects looking to go in the 2nd round. I like DJ Stawberry, Jermareo Davidson, Herbert Hill, Kyle Visser, Dudley, Martin Zeno, Trey Johnson, Reyshawn Terry, Stephane Lasme, Carl Landry, Curtis Sumpter, Sean Marshall, Mario Boggan, Cartier Martin, Caleb Green, Warren Carter, Craig Bradshaw, and Mustafa Shakur as well, and think all of them should play multiple seasons in the NBA sooner or later. A couple other guys that won't get drafted that I like a lot (as a relative term) as well are Lamont Hamilton from St. John's and Quinton Hosley from Fresno State.

And the last two guys that I think could be steals are both guys kicked off their teams this year in Josh Heytvelt and Sean Williams. Both are huge risks, but both could have huge returns. I really wouldn't be suprised to see Heytvelt playing 15 to 20 minutes a night and getting 8 points and 4 boards for a team like the Grizzlies. I think Williams could be good for 6 points, 4 boards, and over a couple blocks for Golden State or such a team. Another guy that may have fallen from even draft consideration is CJ Giles that got kicked off of Kansas. He is a big man with a lot of potential. Give him 5 years, and if he stays on the right path in his life, he will be in the NBA.

[apriorist]

As for Aaron Afflalo, i don't think he's going to have a big NBA career. He's a jump shooter in the NBA and that's it. Not really athletic either. Won't stay in front of many people in the big leagus and it's not like his jumper is JJ Redick smooth or anything....not like it's working for JJ right now anyways.

So, you're saying he's basically Jarvis Hayes?

[The_Masterplan]

Yah I agree...He still can devleop to the point he can be a great 6th man and spot starter. I dont know who I would compare him with.

Anyways, did you hear Billy G might leave A&M for Arkansas?? :confusedshrug: Whats the word in Texas??

HHHMM. i dont think that is right because A&M is having a meeting on what to add to his contract like a raise, extension and other nice things.

[statman32]

HHHMM. i dont think that is right because A&M is having a meeting on what to add to his contract like a raise, extension and other nice things.

Yah I was just going by websider.com and there message board. It looks like he will stay and the rumor that he was willing to go to Arkansas was just put out there so he would get a bigger raise at A&M.

[The_Masterplan]

ya i think he DID get or IS getting a 1.2 million dollar raise.

[RobertSwift31]

What do you think of Hawes? I see he is at #5, but i stil hope he satys because im a huskie fan. Do you think he needs another year?

[Skywalker]

I really like Hawes. I want him to stay, I want him to do whatever he can to make sure he doesnt **** anything up.

After Oden and Durant of course, hes my favourite prospect.

[i seen hippos]

Hawes has skillz, but if you can call Oden unimpressive this year, then what does that make him?

For a freshman he's quite the prospect though.

[tmacman]

Rockets should get Alando Tucker or Aaron Gray if they're in the 20+ pick range

[A-MATT]

Rockets should get Alando Tucker or Aaron Gray if they're in the 20+ pick range

I agree with you, but gray wil be gone and if tucker is gone we should pick Morris Almond. We know him real well.

[ClutchCityReturns]

No talk of Marco Belinelli.

Shame on everyone :)

[statman32]

No talk of Marco Belinelli.

Shame on everyone :)

This thread has been mostly about point guards and I would consider marco more of a shooting guard. At first I loved the kid but now Im not so sure because hes already 22.

[tmacman]

This thread has been mostly about point guards and I would consider aciew law more of a shooting guard. At first I loved the kid but now Im not so sure because hes already 22.

Who cares if he's a SG or if he's PG. No one really gives a shiiiii.

I can say the exact same thing with Leandro Barbosa. Sure, he's a shooting guard , but he starts as a point guard when Nash is injured.

[Sword.Dragons]

This thread has been mostly about point guards and I would consider marco more of a shooting guard. At first I loved the kid but now Im not so sure because hes already 22.

Yes, bcoz 22 is so old.. get over it, he can still become a great player, no matter what age is he, some peoples peaks are later or earlier then others.

[i seen hippos]

Josh Howard was 22 i believe when he came into the league.

Jose Calderon was 23 i think.

They each have waiting lines to hang on their nuts.

[saKf]

I'm number 84 in line for Calderon's nuts.

They make you take that little slip with the number on it.

I think they're somewhere in the high sixties now, I better start paying more attention.

[i seen hippos]

I'll sell you my spot in line for 5 bones through Paypal.

seriously though, you can sell your spot in line for Maple Leafs season tickets for thousands of dollars. lol JUST YOUR SPOT IN LINE!

[Da KO King]

Why are so many people high on Conley Jr?

[i seen hippos]

He can dribble the ball.

[ClutchCityReturns]

This thread has been mostly about point guards and I would consider marco more of a shooting guard. At first I loved the kid but now Im not so sure because hes already 22.

I know he's a SG, but this is a Draft Prospects Thread. I know it got off track and became a discussion of PG's but before that happened I didn't see him in anyone's SG lists. He's a top 20 pick, and as much as I hate the Lakers I think he would fit well there. He can create his own offense, has good size and athleticism, and a nice shot. Plus he patterns his game after Kobe. They need PG help more than anything but took Farmar last year so Belinelli could be a possibility for them.

[Skywalker]

what does everyone think of Chris Douglas - Roberts and Jerel McNeal?

[i seen hippos]

Roberts is just like Carney in that they can't dribble worth ****. Nice athlete, and finisher, but players like him can't be great offensive players in the NBA.

McNeal I haven't seen as much as I've wanted to, but he's a better pro prospect that Roberts by far.

[i seen hippos]

Top 13 pro SG prospects (not including highschoolers like the pg list). Hard to determine exactly if some of these players are sg or sf, but i think this is pretty acurate (ie. Tucker and Rush are sg while marcus williams is a pf).

1. Chase Budinger
2. Nick Young
3. Marco Belinelli
4. Rudy Fernandez
5. Brandon Rush
6. Aaron Afflalo
7. Daequan Cook
8. Rodney Stuckey
9. Jerel McNeal
10. Morris Almond
11. Alando Tucker
12. Derrick Byars
13. Chris Lofton

Really aren't that many shooting guards in college right now that have pro potential. The highschoolers coming in will change that, but Budinger is the only player really worth noting that is already in college and will come out in 2008.

[Skywalker]

I personally thinki McNeal could be a very solid pro.

Good defense, good slasher, hell, put him on the Raptors!

[Da KO King]

I think Alando Tucker's shooting and handling make him more of a SF prospect than a SG.

Marcus Williams is a combo wing. Can play both SG and SF. I'd put him as high as #3 for SG's. Defensively he'd be the best SG available.

[i seen hippos]

Williams would definitely be top 2-3 for sg's. I'm doing sf's right now so we'll se where i have him at a much more competitive position.

[Da KO King]

When you make your SF list will you accurately include how over-rated Jeff Green has become or will you be realistic?

[i seen hippos]

Top 15 Small Forward Pro Prospects (again, only current college players and international players):

1. Kevin Durant
2. Julian Wright
3. Nicolas Batum
4. Marcus Williams
5. Corey Brewer
6. Danilo Gallinari
7. Jeff Green
8. Taj Gibson
9. Thaddeus Young
10. Al Thornton
11. Raymar Morgan
12. Bill Walker
13. Dominic McGuire
14. Jared Dudley
15. Kyle Weaver


When you make your SF list will you accurately include how over-rated Jeff Green has become or will you be realistic?

Is this what you call an oxymoron?

[saKf]

Every time I've seen Taj Gibson, he's been awesome. Of course, every time I've seen Taj Gibson, he's been playing power forward (or at least guarding power forwards). Can he ever really become a small forward, or is he an NBA bench power forward who is just fricking sweet?

[i seen hippos]

I may be wrong. I mean Tyrus Thomas is an NBA power foward, but he was drafted based on his post defense (especially help defense).

Gibson doesn't have that potential or shot blocking skills to be a power forward. He'd get eaten up.

He can definitely take advantage of power forwards on offense though. Me not knowing exactly how he'd adjust and where he'd play is why he's not higher.

[i seen hippos]

Top PF Pro Prospects (Again, college and international players):

1. Joakim Noah
2. Brandon Wright
3. Yi Jianlian
4. Josh McRoberts
5. Al Horford
6. Brook Lopez
7. Darrell Arthur
8. Tyler Hansbrough
9. Jason Smith
10. Jeff Pendergraph
11. Nick Fazekas
12. Devon Hardin

[Da KO King]

Brook Lopez is returning to school.

Thaddeus Young was a real let down for me. I kept hearing good things but he was a non-factor EVERY time I watched him play. Is he being misused at Georgia Tech or is he one of those athletic monsters in high school that doesn't have any raw skills to compliment it for the NCAA level?

[i seen hippos]

Like i said earlier, these prospect rankings aren't based on who's entering the draft this year.

[The_Masterplan]

How do you get information on who is going to be good internationally?

[Da KO King]

Hippos, who do you think will be a better pro? J Noah or Br. Wright?

[i seen hippos]

I think Noah will be.

Wright has all of the makeup to be the better pro and be an NBA all-star, but from what i see now, Noah brings a lot more to the table and it's not like Noah doesn't have untapped potential as well.

Wright may become the better offensive scorer (already is in college), but that's about it.

Wright kind of reminds me of Aldridge last year without the jumper, but a little more athletic.

[michaelmanmoomoo]

1 Oden
2 Durant
3 Wright
4 Horford
5 Jianllan
6 Green
7 Noah
8 Hibbert
9 Thabeet
10 Hawes
11 Young (Nick)
12 Byars
13 Thornton
14 Brewer
15 Belnell (Italy)
16 Young (Thaddeus)
17 Fernandez (Spain)
18 McRoberts
19 Law
20 Gasol (Spain)

I think that this is what the top 20 will look like.
Offcourse it is all going to depend on what teams get which picks as to who goes where.

[millerz]

Noah and McRoberts are both overrated. Noah is going to be a flop in the NBA. Wright is defiantly going to be a better pro then Noah. McRoberts should of stayed in school and tried to improve his draft stock

[tmacman]

Dang, Glen Davis will be a big steal

[Crazy Style]

1 Oden
2 Durant
3 Wright
4 Horford
5 Jianllan
6 Green
7 Noah
8 Hibbert
9 Thabeet
10 Hawes
11 Young (Nick)
12 Byars
13 Thornton
14 Brewer
15 Belnell (Italy)
16 Young (Thaddeus)
17 Fernandez (Spain)
18 McRoberts
19 Law
20 Gasol (Spain)

I think that this is what the top 20 will look like.
Offcourse it is all going to depend on what teams get which picks as to who goes where.

Is that what you really think or did you get that from this website.
http://www.nbadraft.net/index.asp:D
Well anyway, I would agree that those players will all go in the first round.

[i seen hippos]

Top 6 Centre Prospects (college and international):

1. Greg Oden
2. Spencer Hawes
3. Roy Hibbert
4. Tiago Splitter
5. Hasheem Thabeet
6. Aaron Gray

This was pretty straight forward. This order is pretty agreed upon by most i believe. Possibly only Thabeet doesn't come out this draft.

[BradMiller52]

Is Hibbert going to come out or is he going to come back and try to get a championship again?

[imjustlikemusiq]

To prove i have no life...... this took me a butt long time to do

1. Greg Oden (Ohio State - Freshman)
Pro Comparison: N/A
What You Need To Know: 7-0, 250lb
Strengths: Rebounding, Defense, Post Scoring, Shot Blocking
Weaknesses: Mid-Range, Foul Trouble, Foul Shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDo7hZTU6Gs

2. Kevin Durant (Texas - Freshman)
Pro Comparison: Dirk Nowitzki
What You Need To Know: 6-10, 220lb
Strengths: NBA Range Jumper, Slashing, Handle, Athleticism
Weaknesses: Perimeter Defense, Strength
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvaPFvQAGW8&mode=related&search=

3. Yi Jianlian (China)
Pro Comparison: Kevin Garnett
What You Need To Know: 7-0, 230lb
Strengths: Athleticism, Jumper, Finishing Ability, Post Moves
Weaknesses: Strength, Rebounding, On-Ball Defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6plJTvMW04

4. Al Horford (Florida - Junior)
Pro Comparison: Elton Brand
What You Need To Know: 6-9, 245lb
Strengths: Rebounding, Strength, Mid-Range, Defense, Shot Blocking
Weaknesses: Post Moves, Foul Shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ea3MpbYyao

5. Roy Hibbert (Georgetown - Junior)
Pro Comparison: Jamaal Magloire
What You Need To Know: 7-2, 280lb
Strengths: Rebounding, Strength, Foul Shooting, Passing, Post Moves
Weaknesses: Quickness, Stamina, Foul Trouble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVUJ4-uy1dk

6. Hasheem Thabeet (Connecticut - Freshman)
Pro Comparison: Andris Biedrins
What You Need To Know: 7-3, 270lb
Strengths: Defense, Shot Blocking, Rebounding, Athleticism
Weaknesses: Offense, No Jumper, No Post Moves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioLODceE8mQ

7. Marco Belinelli (Italy - Age 21)
Pro Comparison: Jason Richardson
What You Need To Know: 6-6, 190lb
Strengths: Athleticism, Passing, NBA Range Jumper, Handle
Weaknesses: On-Ball Defense, Strength
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-A4N9-ti8&NR

8. Corey Brewer (Florida - Junior)
Pro Comparison: Ron Artest
What You Need To Know: 6-8, 185lb
Strengths: On-Ball Defense, Athleticism, Post-Moves
Weaknesses: Ball Handling, Strength, NBA Range Jumper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P77gIxsOQ2I

9. Joakim Noah (Florida - Junior)
Pro Comparison: Tyson Chandler
What You Need To Know: 6-11, 230lb
Strengths: Rebounding, Ball Handling, Shot Blocking, Leader
Weaknesses: Mid-Range Shooting, Post Moves, Foul Shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cB0WCzB0sI

10. Spencer Hawes (Washington - Freshman)
Pro Comparison: Brad Miller
What You Need To Know: 6-11, 250lb
Strengths: Passing, Handle, Mid-Range Jumper, Post Moves, Rebounding
Weaknesses: Athleticism, Defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ovOuaobZUQ

11. Brandan Wright (North Carolina - Freshman)
Pro Comparison: Gerald Wallace
What You Need To Know: 6-10, 210lb
Strengths: Athleticism, Rebounding, Defense
Weaknesses: Mid-Range Jumper, Handle, Foul Shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMB8KvQReUU

12. Nick Young (Southern California - Junior)
Pro Comparison: James Posey
What You Need To Know: 6-6, 200lb
Strengths: Handle, Athleticism, Jumper, Post-Up game
Weaknesses: Too Soft, Passing, Quickness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYb34SCsLt0

13. Thaddeus Young (Georgia Tech - Freshman)
Pro Comparison: Donyell Marshall
What You Need To Know: 6-8, 220lb
Strengths: Athleticism, On-Ball Defense, Finishing, Quickness
Weaknesses: Handle, Perimeter Skill, Shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkIBw-jTl4&mode=related&search=

14. Jeff Green (Georgetown - Junior)
Pro Comparison: Darius Miles
What You Need To Know: 6-8, 240lb
Strengths: Defense, Athleticism, Passing, Rebounding
Weaknesses: Too Passive, Jumper, Handle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e267jy4-DY

15. Josh McRoberts (Duke - Freshman)
Pro Comparison: Juwan Howard
What You Need To Know: 6-10, 240lb
Strengths: Athleticism, 14 Feet and In Scoring, Passing
Weaknesses: Quickness, 15 Feet and Out Scoring, Defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOuzofoWwzA

Honorable Mention: Al Thornton, Derrick Byars, Marc Gasol, Acie Law, and Arron Afflalo

[BigTicket]

Eh, Noah at 9th and Wright at 11th ?

[skan72]

Corey Brewer to Ron Artest? Really?

[tmacman]

Hibbert reminds me of Deke. Not only because of his size, but his strengths and weaknesses are exactly the same as his.

[lawlerslaw100]

Nick Young would be higher than a top 20 if he grew back the
FroHawk:lol: :banana:

Also, I have Hibbert in the top 10 and Conley will stay in school
to come out in 2008 when the draft is weaker.

[i seen hippos]

I think the 2008 draft will be stronger if all of those incoming freshmen leave after 1 season. Conley will just be another guard rather than being the premier guard if he comes out this season.

[tmacman]

Houston better get Afflalo or Law with their mid-20 pick.

[i seen hippos]

You better set your sights on a player like Tucker or Almond then.

If Afflalo declares he should be gone before your pick and Law definitely will.

[craigthomasb]

3. Yi Jianlian (China)
Pro Comparison: Kevin Garnett
What You Need To Know: 7-0, 230lb
Strengths: Athleticism, Jumper, Finishing Ability, Post Moves
Weaknesses: Strength, Rebounding, On-Ball Defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6plJTvMW04


cant help but think this guys gonna be trash, hes not yao ming, doesnt have the size to make it in the league

[i seen hippos]

If i'm not too tired tonight, i'm gonna rank all prospects (highschool, international and college).

[statman32]

If i'm not too tired tonight, i'm gonna rank all prospects (highschool, international and college).
Cool...But please dont put Brandan Wright at the 11th pick like the other guy. :banghead:

[i seen hippos]

Nah, I have him as the 4th pick in this year's draft i believe...don't think 7 guys from next year's draft will be better although it's actually not that unrealistic. The 2008 draft has the potential to be crazy.

[i seen hippos]

Here's my top 50 pro prospects including all highschool, college and international players. When I think they will come out has no bearing here. These lists are always hard because you're looking at potential a lot more for the highschool players than the college players, but this is what I got as of right now:

1. Greg Oden- Ohio State (Freshman)
2. Derrick Rose- HS (Senior)
3. Kevin Durant- Texas (Freshman)
4. Chase Budinger- Arizona (Freshman)
5. Michael Beasley- HS (Senior)
6. OJ Mayo- HS (Senior)
7. Joakim Noah- Florida (Junior)
8. Julian Wright- Kansas (Sophmore)
9. Eric Gordon- HS (Senior)
10. Brandan Wright- North Carolina (Freshman)
11. Nicolas Batum- International (18 years old)
12. Kevin Love- HS (Senior)
13. Marcus Williams- Arizona (Sophmore)
14. Spencer Hawes- Washington (Freshman)
15. Yi Jianlian- International (19 years old)
16. Josh McRoberts- Duke (Sophmore)
17. Mike Conley Jr.- Ohio State (Freshman)
18. Nick Young- USC (Junior)
19. Corey Brewer- Florida (Junior)
20. Danilo Gallinari- International (18 years old)
21. Al Horford- Florida (Junior)
22. Acie Law- Texas A&M (Senior)
23. Jeff Green- Georgetown (Junior)
24. Taj Gibson- USC (Freshman [21])
25. Kyle Singler- HS (Senior)
26. Thaddeus Young- Georgia Tech (Freshman)
27. Brook Lopez- Stanford (Freshman)
28. Roy Hibbert- Georgetown (Junior)
29. Ty Lawson- North Carolina (Freshman)
30. Marco Belinelli- International (21 years old)
31. Darren Collison- UCLA (Sophmore)
32. Al Thornton- Florida State (Senior)
33. Raymar Morgan- Michigan State (Freshman)
34. Bill Walker- Kansas State (Freshman)
35. Darrel Arthur- Kansas (Freshman)
36. Dominic James- Marquette (Sophmore)
37. Rudy Fernandez- International (21 years old)
38. Tiago Splitter- International (22 years old)
39. Brandon Rush- Kansas (Sophmore)
40. Stephan Curry- Davidson (Freshman)
41. Kosta Koufos- HS (Senior)
42. DJ Augustine- Texas (Freshman)
43. Javaris Crittenton- Georgia Tech (Freshman)
44. Arron Afflalo- UCLA (Junior)
45. Daequan Cook- Ohio State (Freshman)
46. Hasheem Thabeet- UConn (Freshman)
47. Jerryd Bayless- HS (Senior)
48. Aaron Gray- Pittsburgh (Sophmore)
49. Tyler Hansbrough- North Carolina (Sophmore)
50. Sean Singletary- Virginia (Junior)

Don't get too angry.:D

[thenextgreatbigman]

derrick rose is too high, i love what i saw from the guy but he is nowhere near durant

[i seen hippos]

Was Durant near Durant in highschool? I have visions of Rose in my sleep. He will be crazy. Literally crazy.

[thenextgreatbigman]

Was Durant near Durant in highschool? I have visions of Rose in my sleep. He will be crazy. Literally crazy.
i've read every article i could find about rose, and was on his dick for the past 2 years but the guy is not going to put up anywhere near 25pts in his freshman year

[RobertSwift31]

How about Chris Richard?

[i seen hippos]

Maybe on my neighbourhood team.

[statman32]

Iseenhippos your list is horrific. I also know you havent seen most of those international players play, so ranking them is stupid. BTW I see you put Raymar Morgan as the 33rd best pro prospect. :no:

Anyways Ill start off by ranking high school seniors, and yes I have seen each one of them play more than once. Im ranking their potential as NBA players.

High School Seniors:
1. Michael Beasley
Will play at Kansas St next year. The dude should be a beast in college and in the NBA. Will be fun to watch him and Bill Walker tear things up next year. Needs to improve his defense and might have Darius Miles Syndrome.
2. OJ Mayo
Will play at USC next year. Had a bad All American game but is a great scorer and usually has that killer instinct that superstars have. I dont buy into him having too many attitude problems.
3. Derrick Rose
Will play at Memphis next year. Reminds me of Gary Payton. Great atheticism and can get into the lane whenever he wants. Is the best true point guard not in the NBA right now. Needs to improve his outside shot.
4. Eric Gordon
Will play at Indiana next year. Is a great scorer and shooter. True combo guard that is built like an ox. Crazy athlete. Needs to improve his passing skills.
5. Jerryd Bayless
Will play at Arizona next year. Reminds me of Gilbert Arenas. Is the best shooter in high school right now. Has 3 point range and a great mid range game. Insane leaping ability. Needs to improve his passing and put on some weight.
6. Kosta Koufas
Will play at Ohio St next year.
7. Donte Green
Will play at Syracuse next year.
8. James Harden
Will play at Arizona St next year.
9. J.J Hickson
Will play at N.C State next year.
10. Kyle Singler
Will play at Duke next year.

[i seen hippos]

I spend more time following college and highschool ball over everyone here not named TheGame. And I spend more time following and watching every bit of action in the international leagues than anyone else here.

So forgive me if what you may assume offends me.

Did you even watch Morgan play this year? How he finished the season? Are ignoring his amazing body type? His athleticism? His scoring ability as a freshman?

[RobertSwift31]

Statman, how are you going to leave Kevin Love off of that list?

[Skywalker]

Maybe on my neighbourhood team.

:roll:

the next Paul Millsap

[i seen hippos]

Seriously though, he's a nice player. But not top 50. It would have been nice to see him be one of the main options on a team.

[monthh]

Based on the players who have declared and not including international players, this is my rough top 20. I will update it as more declare and I get a better grip on the internationals.

1. Joakim Noah-I like Horford better, but I think his height and versatility might have him a nose ahead of Horford, but I expect that to change
2. Al Horford-Seems to be among one of the most NBA ready players that will enter
3. Corey Brewer-Some may not agree, but I think his height, shooting, and especially defense will make him the top swingman in the draft, if Julian Wright doesn't declare
4. Spencer Hawes-Great upside, but is a huge project just like Thabeet
5. Hasheem Thabeet-Size is his game right now, but with good coaching, he could be a great defensive post player in a few years
6. Al Thornton-I think he is one of the hardest players to predict because on the one hand, he still plays a little raw, depending on his athletic ability a lot, but on the other hand he will be 24 shortly into the NBA season, putting into question his upside. Plus I think is a little bit of a tweener, because he can't handle the ball like a SF, and doesn't have the size to be a PF
7. Acie Law-Perhaps will the top PG in the class, but despite his many clutch performances, I think he will drop on draft night because he just doesn't stand out as a prospect. With that said, I think he is a steal if he falls into the 20's because he is a smart, well-rounded PG that will step in and play right away
8. Marcus Williams-A lot of people like him, but I don't see anything I like better than Brewer, and he didn't do it on the major stage that Brewer has, still has huge upside and worth a pick in the teens
9. Josh McRoberts-Great passer and athlete, but has to put his game together and be consistant, I think he made a big mistake leaving Duke
10. Alando Tucker-Solid as they come, but doesn't have the upside and may be a bit of a tweener, but still a solid first round pick for a playoff team
11. Aaron Gray-I like him more than most, but he is still what he is, a unathletic lane blocker who is a great rebounder and can score the ball a little
12. Aaron Brooks-Small, but has the speed to be a solid PG. I see a little Bobby Jackson in him, which I think is worth a long look in the 1st round
13. Morris Almond-Great scorer, but he wasn't exactly tearing up the ACC, I don't see another Kevin Martin, but he could be nice off the bench
14. Jason Smith-An interesting prospect that will get drafted because of his size/athleticism and potential with NBA coaching/facilities
15. Kyle Visser-Not sure if he does anything worthy of being a first round pick, but he has some post moves and can play physical
16. Taurean Green-A rock solid point, but doesn't have an NBA skill-set, might be a nice early 2nd rounder
17. Nick Fazekas-I love his game, but he has fallen because of a bad tournament, this guy is big, strong, and talented. Although they are different players, I think he may be the Paul Milsap of this draft
18. Jared Dudley-Like Fazekas, he is talented and a great basketball player, but just isn't a great prospect for what teams are looking for
19. Derrick Byars-Really improved his stock, and may be ahead of the 5 or so guys ahead of him, but I am not ready to put him that high yet. He hasn't done any better than those guys, and didn't have nearly the career, plus he just doesn't have amazing size, speed, or potential like the young guys do
20. Glen Davis-Has had a great career, but has been lost in the shuffle with his team not living up to expectations

Next 12:
Jermareo Davidson
Herbert Hill
Mustafa Shakur
Demetris Nichols
Martin Zeno
Ivan Radenovic
DJ Strawberry
Trey Johnson
Dominic McGuire
Reyshawn Terry
Zabian Dowdell
Stephane Lasme

All should be looked at as 2nd rounders, but most of them will probably have trouble landing on an NBA roster right away.

[The Answer]

You realize that it's now 100% that Durant is coming out, right?

[AtTheDriveIn]

cant help but think this guys gonna be trash, hes not yao ming, doesnt have the size to make it in the league

A 7'0 Small Forward/Power Forward combination, with great post moves, athleticism and a great looking jump shot is going to be trash?

And yeah, he does have the size to play.

[i seen hippos]

Chad Ford believes Budinger will come out now because of the feedback the freshman is getting from scouts.

What I don't understand is why he has him as the 14th pick in his draft simulator.

If he enters, he's a top 5 pick imo. He's in the group with B. Wright, J. Wright, etc right behind Oden/Durant.

[i seen hippos]

Updated top 20 draft board (Just for those entering this year's draft)

1. Greg Oden
2. Kevin Durant
3. Julian Wright
4. Joakim Noah
5. Brandan Wright
6. Spencer Hawes
7. Yi Jianlian
8. Mike Conley Jr.
9. Josh McRoberts
10. Marcus Williams
11. Nicolas Batum
12. Nick Young
13. Corey Brewer
14. Al Horford
15. Marco Belinelli
16. Acie Law
17. Jeff Green
18. Roy Hibbert
19. Al Thornton
20. Rudy Fernandez

[statman32]

Chad Ford believes Budinger will come out now because of the feedback the freshman is getting from scouts.

What I don't understand is why he has him as the 14th pick in his draft simulator.

If he enters, he's a top 5 pick imo. He's in the group with B. Wright, J. Wright, etc right behind Oden/Durant.

Yah he is def not entering. ESPN is just making up that ****. I have inside info from another board.

[i seen hippos]

You're right. Olson said yesterday that Budinger is definitely not coming out.

[dantin003]

what about baby shaq, sofoklis schortsanitis? did he declare for the draft

[Defendman]

Ive seen alot of people pushing Hasheem Thabeet out of the top 15 er so. I think once you get past the first 5-6 your not getting the franchise guy. I think you start going more on potential. Hasheem Thabeet has a ton of potential. He will not go past 15 in this Draft.

[statman32]

what about baby shaq, sofoklis schortsanitis? did he declare for the draft

he was drafted in 2003 by the clippers.

[beau_boy04]

check out the first couple of times in this vid about kevin durant which goes to show you his desire to win, to succeed, to be better than the best player, etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_usicZKAps

[eeeeeebro]

http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/althornton.html al thornton

[eeeeeebro]

Cool link to check up on draft picks http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2053

[i seen hippos]

I just realized Nick Young is 6'6". I feel stupid for not knowing this about a guy I've drooled over for months, but I always thought he was around 6'4".

Makes me love him even more.

[JoHnShOeZ1492]

I dont know about the top ten I just know that the top two are Oden and Durant, Celtics should try for Brandan Wright, and my sleeper pick is deffinately Alondo Tucker

[hippos]

I did one a few months ago so some changes have had to be made. This is for all players, not just players in this year's draft (most will be drafted within the next two years). This is purely who I think the best prospects are.

1. Greg Oden- Ohio State (Freshman)
2. Derrick Rose- HS (Senior)
3. Kevin Durant- Texas (Freshman)
4. Chase Budinger- Arizona (Freshman)
5. Michael Beasley- HS (Senior)
6. OJ Mayo- HS (Senior)
7. Julian Wright- Kansas (Sophmore)
8. Joakim Noah- Florida (Junior)
9. Eric Gordon- HS (Senior)
10. Brandan Wright- North Carolina (Freshman)
11. Kevin Love- HS (Senior)
12. Marcus Williams- Arizona (Sophmore)
13. Danilo Gallinari- International (18 years old)
14. Ricky Rubio- PG (16 years old) Yes, it’s way too early
15. Yi Jianlian- International (19 years old)
16. Spencer Hawes- Washington (Freshman)
17. Josh McRoberts- Duke (Sophmore)
18. Mike Conley Jr.- Ohio State (Freshman)
19. Nick Young- USC (Junior)
20. Corey Brewer- Florida (Junior)
21. Nicolas Batum- International (18 years old)
22. Al Horford- Florida (Junior)
23. Darren Collison- UCLA (Sophmore)
24. Acie Law- Texas A&M (Senior)
25. Jeff Green- Georgetown (Junior)
26. Taj Gibson- USC (Freshman [21])
27. Ty Lawson- North Carolina (Freshman)
28. Kyle Singler- HS (Senior)
29. Thaddeus Young- Georgia Tech (Freshman)
30. Brook Lopez- Stanford (Freshman)
31. Marco Belinelli- International (21 years old)
32. Roy Hibbert- Georgetown (Junior)
33. Al Thornton- Florida State (Senior)
34. Raymar Morgan- Michigan State (Freshman)
35. Bill Walker- Kansas State (Freshman)
36. Darrel Arthur- Kansas (Freshman)
37. Rudy Fernandez- International (21 years old)
38. Rodney Stuckey- Eastern Washington (Sophmore)
39. Tiago Splitter- International (22 years old)
40. Brandon Rush- Kansas (Sophmore)
41. Dominic James- Marquette (Sophmore)
42. Stephan Curry- Davidson (Freshman)
43. Kosta Koufos- HS (Senior)
44. DJ Augustine- Texas (Freshman)
45. Jason Smith- Colorado State (Junior)
46. Javaris Crittenton- Georgia Tech (Freshman)
47. Daequan Cook- Ohio State (Freshman)
48. Hasheem Thabeet- UConn (Freshman)
49. Derrick Byars- Vanderbilt (Senior)
50. Jerryd Bayless- HS (Senior)
51. Gabe Pruitt- USC (Junior)
52. Morris Almond- Rice (Senior)
53. Arron Afflalo- UCLA (Junior)
54. Tyler Hansbrough- North Carolina (Sophmore)
55. Aaron Gray- Pittsburgh (Sophmore)
56. Sean Singletary- Virginia (Junior)
57. Jared Dudley- Boston College (Senior)
58. Jerel McNeal- Marquette (Sophmore)
59. Jeff Pendergraph- Arizona State (Sophmore)
60. Chris Lofton- Tennessee (Junior)
61. Ante Tomic-International (20 years old)
62. Nick Fazekas- Nevada (Senior)
63. DeVon Hardin- California (Junior)
64. Ron Steele- Alabama (Junior)
65. Glen Davis- LSU (Junior)
66. Alando Tucker- Wisconsin (Senior)

Pretty much perfect.

[i seen hippos]

Added Koponen.

1. Greg Oden- Ohio State (Freshman)
2. Derrick Rose- HS (Senior)
3. Kevin Durant- Texas (Freshman)
4. Chase Budinger- Arizona (Freshman)
5. Michael Beasley- HS (Senior)
6. OJ Mayo- HS (Senior)
7. Julian Wright- Kansas (Sophmore)
8. Joakim Noah- Florida (Junior)
9. Eric Gordon- HS (Senior)
10. Brandan Wright- North Carolina (Freshman)
11. Kevin Love- HS (Senior)
12. Marcus Williams- Arizona (Sophmore)
13. Danilo Gallinari- International (18 years old)
14. Ricky Rubio- PG (16 years old) Yes, it’s way too early
15. Yi Jianlian- International (19 years old)
16. Spencer Hawes- Washington (Freshman)
17. Josh McRoberts- Duke (Sophmore)
18. Mike Conley Jr.- Ohio State (Freshman)
19. Nick Young- USC (Junior)
20. Corey Brewer- Florida (Junior)
21. Nicolas Batum- International (18 years old)
22. Al Horford- Florida (Junior)
23. Darren Collison- UCLA (Sophmore)
24. Acie Law- Texas A&M (Senior)
25. Jeff Green- Georgetown (Junior)
26. Taj Gibson- USC (Freshman [21])
27. Ty Lawson- North Carolina (Freshman)
28. Kyle Singler- HS (Senior)
29. Thaddeus Young- Georgia Tech (Freshman)
30. Brook Lopez- Stanford (Freshman)
31. Marco Belinelli- International (21 years old)
32. Roy Hibbert- Georgetown (Junior)
33. Al Thornton- Florida State (Senior)
34. Raymar Morgan- Michigan State (Freshman)
35. Bill Walker- Kansas State (Freshman)
36. Darrel Arthur- Kansas (Freshman)
37. Rudy Fernandez- International (21 years old)
38. Rodney Stuckey- Eastern Washington (Sophmore)
39. Tiago Splitter- International (22 years old)
40. Brandon Rush- Kansas (Sophmore)
41. Dominic James- Marquette (Sophmore)
42. Stephan Curry- Davidson (Freshman)
43. Kosta Koufos- HS (Senior)
44. DJ Augustine- Texas (Freshman)
45. Jason Smith- Colorado State (Junior)
46. Javaris Crittenton- Georgia Tech (Freshman)
47. Daequan Cook- Ohio State (Freshman)
48. Hasheem Thabeet- UConn (Freshman)
49. Derrick Byars- Vanderbilt (Senior)
50. Jerryd Bayless- HS (Senior)
51. Gabe Pruitt- USC (Junior)
52. Morris Almond- Rice (Senior)
53. Petteri Koponen- International (19 years old)
54. Arron Afflalo- UCLA (Junior)
55. Tyler Hansbrough- North Carolina (Sophmore)
56. Aaron Gray- Pittsburgh (Sophmore)
57. Sean Singletary- Virginia (Junior)
58. Jared Dudley- Boston College (Senior)
59. Jerel McNeal- Marquette (Sophmore)
60. Luc Richard Mbah a Moute- UCLA (Sophmore)
61. Jeff Pendergraph- Arizona State (Sophmore)
62. Chris Lofton- Tennessee (Junior)
63. Ante Tomic-International (20 years old)
64. Nick Fazekas- Nevada (Senior)
65. DeVon Hardin- California (Junior)
66. Ron Steele- Alabama (Junior)
67. Glen Davis- LSU (Junior)
68. Alando Tucker- Wisconsin (Senior)

[the_player]

[QUOTE=i seen hippos]Added Koponen.

1. Greg Oden- Ohio State (Freshman)
2. Derrick Rose- HS (Senior)
3. Kevin Durant- Texas (Freshman)
4. Chase Budinger- Arizona (Freshman)
5. Michael Beasley- HS (Senior)
6. OJ Mayo- HS (Senior)
7. Julian Wright- Kansas (Sophmore)
8. Joakim Noah- Florida (Junior)
9. Eric Gordon- HS (Senior)
10. Brandan Wright- North Carolina (Freshman)
11. Kevin Love- HS (Senior)
12. Marcus Williams- Arizona (Sophmore)
13. Danilo Gallinari- International (18 years old)
14. Ricky Rubio- PG (16 years old) Yes, it

[bringthetruth]

You missed out on 1 player# 11 Paul harris of syracuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLuqmCh4sfw

[i seen hippos]

You missed out on 1 player# 11 Paul harris of syracuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLuqmCh4sfw

I'm just picky with highschoolers. How many turned out to be total crap. Unless I believe they will absolutely be better than those on the list (Alando Tucker is the last player), I won't add them until thier college careers start.

[i seen hippos]

I am going to say this right now.

Gallinari will be a better NBA player than Batum.

[Ron Mexico]

147135081

[i seen hippos]

Anyone still think Batum is better than Gallinari?

[VCMVP1551]

I am really excited about Roy Hibbert. He has some great post moves and a soft touch around the basket. It is rare for a big man to spend 4 years at college not to mention he is a legit 7'2".

[jamal99]

Im 17 and Im 7 feet 1, 3pt shooter. Draft 2011 or 2012 is going to be all mine!

[YounG*G]

Top draft prospect of 2011 or 2012 NBA draft on this link
www.sport-key.com/igraci_karton.php?id=30

[marny_navis]

Best draft prospect 2007-2008: Casey Harriman, Creighton.


lol jk he's a kid that went to my school he led state in scoring, though. Then again, it is Iowa....

[jamal99]

Beasley is a great athlete and he can get pretty good average in NBA. If he play SF he can be around 20pts, 7-8rebs, 4asissts and 2+blocks. If he play PF he can average 'bout 18pts, 10rebs,3+asissts and around 3 blocks. He can be good stealer too. If the team make him play D, he'll be imbalanced player.

Batum will, I supose be second pick 'cause he's very talented, athletic, great wingspan. I hope he will go well in his career because he looks like nice guy.

I think that Nikola Pekovic from Serbia will be the biggest steal on Draft. He's 6'11'' C/PF, very strong and athletic, good FT shooter for a big guy. He's 21 and already 2nd scorer of Euroleague and 6th rebounder and he got best utility index (useful) in Euroleague which is best European club competition.

[marny_navis]

Beasley is a great athlete and he can get pretty good average in NBA. If he play SF he can be around 20pts, 7-8rebs, 4asissts and 2+blocks. If he play PF he can average 'bout 18pts, 10rebs,3+asissts and around 3 blocks. He can be good stealer too. If the team make him play D, he'll be imbalanced player.

Batum will, I supose be second pick 'cause he's very talented, athletic, great wingspan. I hope he will go well in his career because he looks like nice guy.

I think that Nikola Pekovic from Serbia will be the biggest steal on Draft. He's 6'11'' C/PF, very strong and athletic, good FT shooter for a big guy. He's 21 and already 2nd scorer of Euroleague and 6th rebounder and he got best utility index (useful) in Euroleague which is best European club competition.

Is he a teammate of yours or something?

[i seen hippos]

Updated list:

1. Derrick Rose- Memphis (Freshman)
2. Michael Beasley- Kansas State (Freshman)
3. OJ Mayo- USC (Freshman)
4. Eric Gordon- Indiana (Freshman)
5. Ricky Rubio- International (17)
6. Kosta Koufos- Ohio State (Freshman)
7. Chase Budinger- Arizona (Sophomore)
8. Kevin Love- UCLA (Freshman)
9. JJ Hickson – NC State (Freshman)
10. DeAndre Jordan- Texas A&M (Freshman)
11. Danilo Gallinari- International (19 years old)
12. Donte Green- Syracuse (Freshman)
13. Kyle Singler- Duke (Freshman)
14. Darrel Arthur- Kansas (Sophomore)
15. Terrence Williams- Louisville (Junior)
16. Nicolas Batum- International (18 years old)
17. Darren Collison- UCLA (Junior)
18. Raymar Morgan- Michigan State (Sophomore)
19. Jamont Gordon- Mississippi State (Junior)
20. Ty Lawson- North Carolina (Sophomore)
21. Victor Claver- International (19 years old)
22. Austin Daye- Gonzaga (Freshman)
23. Brook Lopez- Stanford (Sophomore)
24. Jerryd Bayless- Arizona (Freshman)
25. Maurice Speights- Florida (Sophomore)
26. Nick Calathes- Florida (Freshman)
27. DJ Augustine- Texas (Sophomore)
28. Taj Gibson- USC (Sophomore [22])
29. Roy Hibbert- Georgetown (Senior)
30. Richard Hendrix- Alabama (Junior)
31. Gerald Henderson- Duke (Sophomore)
32. Greivis Vasquez- Maryland (Sophomore)
33. Bill Walker- Kansas State (Freshman)
34. Brandon Rush- Kansas (Junior)
35. Sean Singletary- Virginia (Senior)
36. Sherron Collins- Kansas (Sophonore)
37. Dominic James- Marquette (Junior)
38. Chris Douglas-Roberts- Memphis (Junior)
39. DeVon Hardin- California (Senior)
40. Stephan Curry- Davidson (Sophomore)
41. Tyler Hansbrough- North Carolina (Junior)
42. Ryan Anderson- California (Sophomore)
43. Hasheem Thabeet- UConn (Sophomore)
44. Jerel McNeal- Marquette (Junior)
45. Jeff Pendergraph- Arizona State (Junior)
46. Mario Chalmers- Kansas (Junior)
47. Luc Richard Mbah a Moute- UCLA (Junior)
48. Ron Steele- Alabama (Senior)
49. Chris Lofton- Tennessee (Senior)
50. Ante Tomic-International (20 years old)

[i seen hippos]

CDR has actually impressed me more than I thought he had the talent to.

[i seen hippos]

I'm gonna say this now, so if anyone asks a question that I answer right now, you'll be ignored. I didn't include highschoolers because I'd rather see them play some real ball instead of just assuming how good they are. As for international players, I picked the ones I think are as close to sure bets as possible. I'm not going to pick someone I think has a better chance of not even making an NDBL team let alone the NBA (so don't go running to draftexpress like some of you always do).

You can drop some names you think I missed, but I'll let you know right now afer pick 50, it's all cloudy anyways. I'm not gonna stand by picks 51-75 as I will for picks 1-50. So if you think Shan Foster or someone else should be ahead of Josh Shipp, F yourself unless you give serious reasons why I should change it.

I'll post actually comments for the picks at some time...but right now I gotta shovel the driveway (should I even bother considering 90% of the people here are too retarded to understand what the other 10% are talking about or at least post stupid replies?).:D

Without further ado:

1. Michael Beasley- Kansas State (Freshman)
2. Derrick Rose- Memphis (Freshman)
3. Eric Gordon- Indiana (Freshman)
4. Ricky Rubio- International (17)
5. Chase Budinger- Arizona (Sophomore)
6. Kosta Koufos- Ohio State (Freshman)
7. Blake Griffin- Oklahoma (Freshman)
8. OJ Mayo- USC (Freshman)
9. DeAndre Jordan- Texas A&M (Freshman)
10. Kevin Love- UCLA (Freshman)
11. Austin Daye- Gonzaga (Freshman)
12. Darrel Arthur- Kansas (Sophomore)
13. Donte Green- Syracuse (Freshman)
14. Darren Collison- UCLA (Junior)
15. Davon Jefferson- USC (Freshman)
16. Danilo Gallinari- International (19 years old)
17. Brook Lopez- Stanford (Sophomore)
18. JJ Hickson – NC State (Freshman)
19. Kyle Singler- Duke (Freshman)
20. Jerryd Bayless- Arizona (Freshman)
21. Patrick Patterson- Kentucky (Freshman)
22. Nicolas Batum- International (18 years old)
23. Terrence Williams- Louisville (Junior)
24. Gerald Henderson- Duke (Sophomore)
25. Raymar Morgan- Michigan State (Sophomore)
26. DJ White- Indiana (Senior)
27. Richard Hendrix- Alabama (Junior)
28. Ryan Anderson- California (Sophomore)
29. DJ Augustine- Texas (Sophomore)
30. Ty Lawson- North Carolina (Sophomore)
31. Tyler Smith- Tennessee (Sophomore)
32. Victor Claver- International (19 years old)
33. Maurice Speights- Florida (Sophomore)
34. Bill Walker- Kansas State (Freshman)
35. Mario Chalmers- Kansas (Junior)
36. Courtney Lee- Western Kentucky (Senior)
37. Roy Hibbert- Georgetown (Senior)
38. James Harden- Arizona State (Freshman)
39. Andrew Ogilvy- Vanderbilt (Freshman)
40. Chris Douglas-Roberts- Memphis (Junior)
41. Jamont Gordon- Mississippi State (Junior)
42. Joey Dorsey- Memphis (Senior)
43. Hasheem Thabeet- UConn (Sophomore)
44. DeVon Hardin- California (Senior)
45. Greivis Vasquez- Maryland (Sophomore)
46. Sam Young- Pittsburgh (Junior)
47. Nathan Jawai- International (21 years old)
48. Russell Westbrook- UCLA (Sophomore)
49. Anthony Randolph- LSU (Freshman)
50. Nick Calathes- Florida (Freshman)
51. Jeff Adrien- UConn (Junior)
52. Tyler Hansbrough- North Carolina (Junior)
53. Wayne Ellington- North Carolina (Sophomore)
54. Darnell Jackson- Kansas (Senior)
55. Jeremy Pargo- Gonzaga (Junior)
56. DaJuan Summers- Georgetown (Sophomore)
57. Sean Singletary- Virginia (Senior)
58. Sherron Collins- Kansas (Sophonore)
59. Brandon Rush- Kansas (Junior)
60. Taj Gibson- USC (Sophomore [22])
61. Tasmin Mitchell- LSU (Junior [injured])
62. Jeff Pendergraph- Arizona State (Junior)
63. Jason Thompson- Rider (Senior)
64. Jerel McNeal- Marquette (Junior)
65. Stephan Curry- Davidson (Sophomore)
66. Dominic James- Marquette (Junior)
67. Josh Shipp- UCLA (Junior)
68. Luc Richard Mbah a Moute- UCLA (Junior)
69. Earl Clark- Louisville (Sophomore)
70. Robin Lopez- Stanford (Sophomore)
71. Chris Lofton- Tennessee (Senior)
72. Ante Tomic-International (20 years old)
73. Kyle Weaver- Washington State (Senior)
74. Scottie Reynolds- Villanova (Sophomore)
75. Josh Heytvelt- Gonzaga (Junior [coming back from injury])

[Jasi]

The guy portrayed in my avatar will be in the top 6 picks - if NBA scouts know their job.

[i seen hippos]

The guy portrayed in my avatar will be in the top 6 picks - if NBA scouts know their job.

My list includes players that will be taken mostly in the next two drafts so you could be right.

If he enters this year as we all expect, in my mind he's in the 8-10 range right now. He could definitely rise though.

[danumber88]

Wow thabeet at 43th, hes like the 2nd or 3rd best big man in college at the height of 7"3

[i seen hippos]

Wow thabeet at 43th, hes like the 2nd or 3rd best big man in college at the height of 7"3

If he entered this year's draft, I'd take him at the 18-22 range.

[The Big Three]

Hippos, feel free to post your mocks here as well as the NBA forum, I enjoy reading them and I'm sure everyone here would as well. Also, how do you think Singler's game will transition to the NBA?

[UConnCeltics]

Singler will be another JJ or Reddick if you ask me... great baller but style of play not for the NBA;

[The Big Three]

I started out thinking Kyle Singler will be too weak or unathletic for the NBA, but he's only a Freshman. He still has a lot of time to get bigger, and could probably be used in the NBA as a shooter to stretch out the defense.

[The Big Three]

What do you guys think about Bill Walker? Will he be a lottery pick this year?

[disco]

What do you guys think about Bill Walker? Will he be a lottery pick this year?

Watching him play last year, he always looked more like a nba player than college player to me. He has all the physical attributes (could be slightly taller) and his skills aren't too bad either. I think he's under-valued in most mocks, I have him at 16th in mine.

[monthh]

Walker has huge upside, but is he a guy that will focus on his game 100% and make himself a star? Right now I think he is just a natural talent. A team like Memphis will take him late in the draft and try to coach him up, but if he wants to party and act like a teenager, then I don't see him improving all that much.

If he works hard then he is a lottery talent.

[Oakman34]

bill walker=j.r. smith

[Efunk7]

bill walker=j.r. smith
nah...walker = early vince carter...

[BigShot87]

Lottery predictions anyone? Let's go Nets

[monthh]

This is my top 15 at this point. This is based on where I think thier draft stock is, with my personal bias as to how good I think they will be as pros mixed in.

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Beasley
3. Jerryd Bayless
4. O.J. Mayo
5. Brook Lopez
6. Eric Gordon
7. Danilo Gallinari
8. Anthony Randolph
9. DeAndre Jordan
10. Nicolas Batum
11. Russell Westbrook
12. Kevin Love
13. Darrell Arthur
14. Kosta Koufus
15. Javale McGee

I think Joe Alexander is a guy on the move, and I think Koufus is on the decline. I could see the two of them switching spots in the near future.

Anthony Randolph moved up recently for me, but I can't picture myself putting him over Gordon or Gallinari so I think my top 8 is pretty much set unless someone can really come out of nowhere and knock Randolph out.

Batum is on the way down as well, but personal bias keeps him in the top 10. I think DeAndre Jordan could be on his way down as well, which I think helps Westbrook, Love, and guys like that.

This is my next 15. And before anyone asks, I have Ajinca at 31, Tomic at 36, and Pekovic at 49, all of which are way, way too low.

16. Mareese Speights
17. Joe Alexander
18. Roy Hibbert
19. Chris Douglas-Roberts
20. Chase Budinger
21. D.J. Augustine
22. Victor Claver
23. Brandon Rush
24. Donte Greene
25. Serge Ibaka
26. Mario Chalmers
27. Robin Lopez
28. D.J. White
29. Jason Thompson
30. Ty Lawson

I of course see a ton of potential movement here. Claver is supposed to pull out, so he would be gone of course.

I don't like having Augustin that low, but I just don't know who to drop. I would probably be able to move him up to 18 without much problem, but that is in the future.

I know a lot of people will have a problem with Rush and Greene being so low, but I don't think Rush has made his move yet. He played well in the tournament and I think moved up about 5 spots based on that, and I would not be shocked to see him move up another 5 spots with workouts. It will take time. As for Greene, I think at one point he was just about in the top 10 range, but then he fell flat and his game fell apart. I think people see the potential, but when you have teams go from worst to first like the Celtics did this year, getting rookies to help out right away like the Hawks and Sixers did will be the norm for this year. Greene is not ready yet, and I think is on the decline, but about as low as he will go at this point. With good workouts I could see him moving up as well.

The last 5 players I think are really solid picks for winning teams. Two of them have been in the Final Four, two of them played in big time conferences at a high level, and Thompson is an athletic 6-10 guy with skills.

Looking outside of the top 30 I think there are a bunch of guys waiting to move up a lot. Walker (32), Hickson (33), and Jefferson (35) will rocket up the draft boards with workouts and guys pulling their names out I think. I could see Walker and Jefferson jumping close to the top 20 and Hickson the top 25.

Beyond that, I think there are a couple of guys that I think could contend for the 1st round as guys start to withdraw their names. Ryan Anderson (34), Weaver (37), Hendrix (40), Hudson (41), Weems (44), and Dorsey (47) are all guys that I think have a real shot at moving up 10 to 15 spots.

And for anyone that is wondering, Goran Dragic is my 60th best player, and Tello Palacios is at the bottom at 158. Looking at the bottom of my list, I think JaJuan Smith (138) from Tennessee has the best shot of moving up and getting a look in the 2nd round. As for the guy that I think could actually play in the NBA that is really low on my list, I like Ben Strong from Guilford (152) because he is 6-11 and can do some work down low. I also think Steven Hill (150) has a real chance to move way up and maybe someday play in the NBA if he cuts his hair so he can see.

[CaptainOwlClub]

wow- great post

i like most everything you have there- & you explained most of my questions- like jordon who i think you have at least 6-10 spots early

how are your rankings going to change after the workouts?- do you get to watch them?

also what is your take on courtney lee's game in the nba?

[i seen hippos]

Mayo, Gordon, Westbrook and Batum are too high.

Budinger, Augustine, Koufos and Lawson are too low.

I think Westbrook has the potential to be the biggest disappointment in the draft. I still think Kofous will be a top 10 pick after workouts.

[Qlippers]

What do you guys think about Bill Walker? Will he be a lottery pick this year?

Bill Walker has the NBA body, he's strong and athletic. His jump shot is inconsistent and the lacks the dribbling ability to separate from defenders. He has lottery potential but there are still alot of tools he needs to work on.

[monthh]

Thanks CaptainOwl. I think guys like Jordan are too high for my personal taste as well, but you can't help where they go. I've even said over the years here that I wouldn't draft a non-Oden type in the top 20. McGee, Koufus, and Jordan I probably wouldn't personally touch before 25 (although I do think Koufus could be a very good player, but the risk is very high). Lopez I might take somewhere between 10 and 20 because I do think he could be a very good player. I wish I got to watch the workouts, but instead I can only read about them like everyone else.

As for Courtney Lee, we have talked about his before, but I see a very good player, but like thousands before him it all depends on if he gets a chance to show what he can do. There was a guy a few years back named Henry Domercant from Eastern Illinois that I thought could have been a solid NBA player, but he never got drafted and has bounced around overseas. If given the shot I think he could play in the NBA in a Barbosa/Louis Williams role. I think Lee could be a backup in the NBA for sure. If a team that needs a guy that can get the ball in the hoop then he could fill that role. He is pretty average outside of that and that is why I don't think he will ever become a star or even a starter in the NBA. Average athletic ability, average size, average defense, average passing, and limited potential. He is, however, not bad at anything. He will play right away, is saavy, has very good fundamentals, can make shots from anywhere on the court with consistancy, and although he does make some silly plays, he is a smart player. I think with a team like the Spurs, Jazz, or Lakers he would do really well. I would say my best comparison of him is what Paul Millsap is for the Jazz as a hard working forward, Courtney Lee could be for a few teams as a scoring gaurd.

Hippos, Mayo, Gordon, and Westbrook may be too high in your eyes, but I think those guys have pretty much locked in their draft range. Mayo will be in the top 5 or 6, Gordon will be in the top 10 or 11, and Westbrook will go in the lottery.

I too think Westbrook's current skills are overrated, but I think the NCAA Tournament gave a glimpse of the huge upside that he has, despite how rocky his game was. Even when he wasn't shooting the ball well, he still played D (held Courtney Lee to 7-29 shooting) and grabed 11 boards against WKU. In their first round game he shot poorly (as he did quite often throughout the year), but he still had 7 assists. Against Xavier and Memphis, he got his shot falling and went 17-30 from the field. The Texas A&M game was just horrible for him, though. He has all the skills (except two huge knocks in size and shooting) you would want in a prospect. This guy can do everything and has the ability to do anything in the NBA, but I still can't believe all the time he went like 5-7 or 2-4 to save his shooting percentage from looking downright awful.

Batum I agree with because he has fallen into the 20's most likely, but I am a fan and as I said, will drop him down as we get closer to the draft.

I'm with you on the Koufus pick. I said in some topic here that I think he will end up being the 10th best player in the draft. I'm really keeping him up that high based on personal bias, just like Batum. But again, I am with you on him.

I talked about how I didn't like having Augustin so low, but I don't know who to drop. I'm not a big fan of Budinger, Speights, or Hibbert, and I could see him move past Douglas-Roberts, so 17 would be the highest I could put him in my eyes, and to me the difference between 17 and 21 is basically meaningless.

I don't like Budinger all that much, although he is growing on me and I am starting to think I might like him if he fell to the Rockets. And I am a UNC fan so I would love to put Lawson much higher, but I'm not sure on the wrong team how effective he will be. I see a few teams that may want to push the tempo as a good fit, but overall I see him as a guy who will have a specific and limited role with a team, just like Dorsey with defense and Hudson with scoring.

Qlippers I think you hit it right on the head with Walker. He has some good qualities and some bad qualities, and a ton of potential. He is the perfect example of natural talent that just needs to work on his game for a couple years and then take a couple years to put his skill together to reach his full potential.

[hippos]

Lawson is def. hit and miss. He can do well on a team like Phoenix, GS, Atlanta, Philly, etc. He will always get abused by the Deron Williams of the NBA and will be outplayed at his own game by the start speedsters such as Parker, Ford, Paul, etc. Nothing more than a middle of the pack starter, but to me he won't be a complete failure. I think his speed even coming off the bench will be valuable to any team and if he can keep improving his shot he can become quite an all around offensive player. On defense it is another thing. He is fast, but I don't think he will ever have the lateral quickness to make up for his lack of size like Ford does.

I myself have gone a bit sour on him, but I'd still place him in the top 22 in this year's draft because there are teams that could use a starting pg or a backup for a few years until the current starter is gone.


I agree with on where Mayo, Gordon and Westbrook will go (less so Gordon unless he has great workouts). I just wanted to point out that I don't feel they are 4th, 6th, 11th best quality players in this draft. You said exactly what I feel about Westbrook. He shows flashes, but I would have liked to see him back at UCLA for one year without Collison. Unfortunately it appears Collison is the one coming back to school.

I'd still like Toronto to look at Batum at 17 if Budinger and Rush were gone, but I've never been very high on him. I was the one saying Gallinari was better 2 years ago when everyone thought I was crazy. He just hasn't shown much skill yet on offense. There's a difference between showing underdeveloped skill and not showing much (he's solid, don't get me wrong). To me he could be another Pi

[jamal99]

He's tall, well built, as athletic as any other big (with Jordan).

U say Koufos is as athletic as Jordan?

[hippos]

U say Koufos is as athletic as Jordan?

I say they are the too most athletic bigs for their size in the draft.

[Iknowball]

No Darnell Harris after he won the 3 point shoot out huh?? Look back at history...

[disco]

I say they are the too most athletic bigs for their size in the draft.

Hmm, I think Koufos definitely isn't more athletic than Ajinca, McGee or Hardin.

[i seen hippos]

Hmm, I think Koufos definitely isn't more athletic than Ajinca, McGee or Hardin.

I think he is more impressive for his size.

[danumber88]

Koufuos has alot of skill set for a C, prolly the most coming out of the draft

[i seen hippos]

Koufuos has alot of skill set for a C, prolly the most coming out of the draft

He has more naturally skill than any big not named Beasley or Love.

[monthh]

I made some major changes in my top 30. I won't go as in depth as last time because I stand by what I said, but I think this reflects a more accurate idea of the draft prospects, again with some bias taken into account.

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Beasley
3. Jerryd Bayless
4. O.J. Mayo
5. Eric Gordon
6. Brook Lopez
7. Danilo Gallinari
8. Kevin Love
9. Anthony Randolph
10. Darrell Arthur
11. Russell Westbrook
12. Donte Greene
13. D.J. Augustin
14. Joe Alexander
15. Kosta Koufus
16. DeAndre Jordan
17. Chase Budinger
18. Nicolas Batum
19. JaVale McGee
20. Marreese Speights
21. Roy Hibbert
22. Brandon Rush
23. Victor Claver
24. Ty Lawson
25. Chris Douglas-Roberts
26. Serge Ibaka
27. Robin Lopez
28. Mario Chalmers
29. D.J. White
30. Jason Thompson

[rfidd]

I would not be surprised to see McGee go earlier than later. At only 20, with his athleticism, height and wingspan, I don't think he will be around much past 15, if even that. He has a good outside shot and can run the floor with any other big. Gain a few pounds and toughen up a bit, he will be great.

Rick

[fatboy11]

Who the hell is Victor Claver?

I've honestly never heard that name before in my life.

[jamal99]

Who the hell is Victor Claver?

I've honestly never heard that name before in my life.
Pretty talented Spanish player, long, athletic, good speed and agility, not much of a shooter. I believe he's 6'10 PF/SF...

[fatboy11]

Pretty talented Spanish player, long, athletic, good speed and agility, not much of a shooter. I believe he's 6'10 PF/SF...
Yeah, I finally found him on NBADraft.net in next year's draft. He's an international so that's why I've never heard of him. I've kinda given up on them.

[disco]

He definitely is one of the more talented young players in Europe, but he's really young and inconsistent (understandably). He played a couple of really good games in Spain against tough competition.

[monthh]

I really think Clavor has a future in the NBA. He isn't expected to stay in this years draft, but while he is I will keep him around. I actually think he would be smart to stay in because he is a bit unknown. I think there is a bit of a gap at the SF position after Gallinari and Alexander down to Davon Jefferson and Will Daniels in the 2nd round most likely. Between that you just have Budinger and Clavor. The best thing for Clavor would be that a lot of teams should be looking for a SF. Phoenix, Toronto, New Jersey, Houston, San Antonio, and New Orleans could use a young SF. Those make it pretty good odds that Clavor is taken in the 1st round.

Another thing that really helps him is that he is 6-10 while none of the American SF prospects are much over 6-7. Alexander might be 6-8, and Gallinari is like 6-9. He is a huge project, but a team willing to wait could get a top 10 worthy pick later in the 1st round.

[jtfacts]

Anyone who places Roy Hibbert out of the Top 20, please redo your "Mock Draft". I don't have that much faith in the competency of NBA GM's but a 7'2" center that can score, I will take him anyday. Please don't be fooled by the small ball that seems to be the style of the NBA now, tall guys are still the most important piece of an NBA team. Let's take a look at the best teams of the NBA right now. LA Lakers - Gasol, Celtics - Garnett, San Antonio - Duncan, Detroit - Wallace. Yes these teams have other components that are more flashy, but without a big man, they would be nothing. Where was Kobe without Gasol? Do you really think Tony Parker can carry a team without Duncan? Roy will go before #15 - guaranteed!

[CaptainOwlClub]

Anyone who places Roy Hibbert out of the Top 20, please redo your "Mock Draft". I don't have that much faith in the competency of NBA GM's but a 7'2" center that can score, I will take him anyday. Please don't be fooled by the small ball that seems to be the style of the NBA now, tall guys are still the most important piece of an NBA team. Let's take a look at the best teams of the NBA right now. LA Lakers - Gasol, Celtics - Garnett, San Antonio - Duncan, Detroit - Wallace. Yes these teams have other components that are more flashy, but without a big man, they would be nothing. Where was Kobe without Gasol? Do you really think Tony Parker can carry a team without Duncan? Roy will go before #15 - guaranteed!

good post and you are probobly right- or should be - i dont see how anybody could place jordon or mcgee ahead of him- i still like brook lopez as a notch up from hibbert but you are right the 2nd best center surely should go top 20 maybe way earlier? -

i really like the thought of the suns taking hibbert at pick 15- he would get a great chance to develop behind shaq and keep amare at pf for the rest of his career- they may need help outside but i hope the suns ignor that and build for the future-

[jtfacts]

Last but not least on Roy Hibbert. He played with some of the worst point guards in the nation with regards to assist per game. Their point guard had less than 3 assist per game. Please explain to me how you have a 7'2" center, and you can't average more than 5 assist per game. Don't put the blame on Hibbert, he can't pass himself the ball. There is alot of talk about how he didn't improve from his Junior season. He improved, but his team didn't. He will be on the all rookie first team next year. Mark my words.

[disco]

Last but not least on Roy Hibbert. He played with some of the worst point guards in the nation with regards to assist per game. Their point guard had less than 3 assist per game. Please explain to me how you have a 7'2" center, and you can't average more than 5 assist per game. Don't put the blame on Hibbert, he can't pass himself the ball. There is alot of talk about how he didn't improve from his Junior season. He improved, but his team didn't. He will be on the all rookie first team next year. Mark my words.

You are right about the point guards, but it was more to do with the Georgetown system than the players he played with.

[jtfacts]

I told you about Hibbert before, now here is some evidence. He is not going 23rd !!!


"Two players we haven

[InspiredLebowski]

No offense to anyone, but why do the mock drafts? we can't all be Mel Kiper of the NBA. Check out a 6 part draft preview concluding Wednesday at http://ballstar1982.blogspot.com . All basketball, all the time, drop feedback, it is much appreciated. Deuces.

Because they're fun. Why NOT do mocks?