Brandon Jennings: "Kobe is the Greatest Player Ever"

[Fudge]

@BrandonJennings: MJ never won without Pippen. Kobe won 2 rings without another great on his team. Kobe is The Goat

@BrandonJennings: “@Jake_OohKillEm: @BrandonJennings what r u trying to say!?” - Kobe really the greatest ever

@BrandonJennings: Kobe Had Shaq. MJ had Pippen, Dennis, Ron Harper, Horace Grant, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc,
John Paxson, B. J. Armstrong.

@BrandonJennings: Micheal Jordan had more "Help" winning his rings then Kobe. #debate #yallfightingthat
:facepalm

Y'all should read his Twitter timeline. Pretty hilarious.

[GODbe]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[riseagainst]

:lol
:roll:

[Beastmode88]

Knicks beat bulls without Jordan. Bulls with Jordan beat the knicks. :cry:

[GODbe]

He's 100% right in those tweets. Very well said. Jordan had the greatest supporting cast of all time. Kobe had 1 legit player for a couple years and then went on to win multiple championships with that player being replaced with the likes of :facepalm Pau Gasoft:facepalm . GOAT gonna GOAT:rockon:

[Beastmode88]

He's 100% right in those tweets. Very well said. Jordan had the greatest supporting cast of all time. Kobe had 1 legit player for a couple years and then went on to win multiple championships with that player being replaced with the likes of :facepalm Pau Gasoft:facepalm . GOAT gonna GOAT:rockon:

Same roster than got swept by the Mavs and lost by the biggest point differential in a playoff game? :roll: :roll:

[Warfan]

Well BJ does idol chuckers. So im not surprised

[boozehound]

of course this douchenozzle selfish chucker thinks kobe is the greatest. They both have inefficient games and no one wants to play with them.

[K Xerxes]

What a dumbass, all he's done in his career is chucked his way to a 55 point game and regressed ever since.

Michael's never won without Pippen... well, guess what, what's Kobe done without Fisher? :oldlol:

The dumbest one has to be this though:


@BrandonJennings: Kobe Had Shaq. MJ had Pippen, Dennis, Ron Harper, Horace Grant, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, John Paxson, B. J. Armstrong.

Is this a joke? Kobe's never played with role players before? Why list all of MJ's and none of Kobe's? :facepalm

[GODbe]

Same roster than got swept by the Mavs and lost by the biggest point differential in a playoff game? :roll: :roll:
Declinebe. Very hard to carry a team like that to a 3 peat in your 30s. This isn't the 90s where there were like 3 legit teams in the league.

[Jailblazers7]

Damn, didn't know Shaq carried Kobe to that 3-peat while playing 2 vs 5. :bowdown:

[K Xerxes]

Declinebe. Very hard to carry a team like that to a 3 peat in your 30s.

Yeah, I know, only a player like Michael can carry a team to a 3 peat ages 32-34. A step too far for declinebe.

[GODbe]

Yeah, I know, only a player like Michael can carry a team to a 3 peat ages 32-34. A step too far for declinebe.
:lol Most stacked team of all time. There was no carrying going on, and if there was it was by Pippen because Jordan was too busy playing golf.

[Beastmode88]

Declinebe. Very hard to carry a team like that to a 3 peat in your 30s. This isn't the 90s where there were like 3 legit teams in the league.

MJ was 34 when he got his 6th with a 3peat. You act like every team is competitive. :roll: Just look what happened last year.

[K Xerxes]

:lol Most stacked team of all time. There was no carrying going on, and if there was it was by Pippen because Jordan was too busy playing golf.

All that carrying yet Michael wins 6 FMVPs out of 6 tries. SidekickBe can only muster up 2 FMVPs out of 7 tries. Who's carrying who? :lol

6/6 >>>> 2/5
6/15 >> 5/18
5/15 >>>>> 1/18

[Beastmode88]

:lol Most stacked team of all time. There was no carrying going on, and if there was it was by Pippen because Jordan was too busy playing golf.

What...? You obviously didn't see Russell's team with 7 HOFs. Then we can argue that Kobe did nothing before he got Odom, Gasol and MWP. Just look what happened in 2006 when he was up 3-1 vs the suns then lost. :roll:

[CelticBaller]

Does it surprise anyone that chuckers idolized each other?

[avonbarksdale]

i love how a guy IN THE NBA says kobe's the best and the kobe haters on here (who have never picked up a basketball) say he's an idiot

[sportjames23]

i love how a guy IN THE NBA says kobe's the best and the kobe haters on here (who have never picked up a basketball) say he's an idiot


Funny how players who played with or against both MJ and Kobe say MJ is the GOAT.

[ImKobe]

Pippen > Gasol

Kobe proved he could with without a top 50 GOAT, in 08 he led a team to the Finals without a single other all-star on the roster.

[avonbarksdale]

Funny how players who played with or against both MJ and Kobe say MJ is the GOAT.


yes i agree that mj is the goat

but people here are acting like they are smarter when it comes to basketball than an nba starter..

[wally_world]

Under the assumption that they wont rape me in the showers

Magic or Duncan

[pauk]

Brandon Jennings = KennethGriffin?

[Rake2204]

yes i agree that mj is the goat

but people here are acting like they are smarter when it comes to basketball than an nba starter..Without speaking directly toward this situation, some of the most talented basketball players I've ever come in contact with throughout my life were also some of most devoid of historical basketball knowledge and understanding. On a way, way, way lesser scale, I still remember none of my teammates (including a mid-level college prospect) recognizing what was notable about our squad picking up an incoming transfer named Brad Dougherty.

Regarding NBA players, it seems there's always been a share of stereotypical "young guns" who provide an overabundance of comments like, "Who's Wes Unseld?" and "I didn't even know Mr. West played in the NBA, I figured he was just an oil tycoon or something."

Long story short, I think the NBA is largely made up of some folks who've lived and breathed everything about it - including its history. But I also think there's some who grew and realized they were outstanding basketball players, became engrossed in their own abilities, and simply (and smartly) just rode it all the way to the top, with or without the surrounding knowledge of the game itself and its history.

[pauk]

Without speaking directly toward this situation, some of the most talented basketball players I've ever come in contact with throughout my life were also some of most devoid of historical basketball knowledge and understanding. On a way, way, way lesser scale, I still remember none of my teammates (including a mid-level college prospect) recognizing what was notable about our squad picking up an incoming transfer named Brad Dougherty.

Regarding NBA players, it seems there's always been a share of stereotypical "young guns" who provide an overabundance of comments like, "Who's Wes Unseld?" and "I didn't even know Mr. West played in the NBA, I figured he was just an oil tycoon or something."

Long story short, I think the NBA is largely made up of some folks who've lived and breathed everything about it - including its history. But I also think there's some who grew and realized they were outstanding basketball players, became engrossed in their own abilities, and simply (and smartly) just rode it all the way to the top, with or without the surrounding knowledge of the game itself and its history.

Most & if not all i think are like that imo, the knowledge of NBA basketball history (the game & its players in all context) comes later or not at all. Just because you are good at basketball doesnt mean your NBA basketball history knowledge or ration of it all is that crafty, like we see in Jennings, he sounds like a ISH troll, but he is not trolling, he is just that stupid enough to actually believe what he is saying.

[CelticBalla32]

I have never agreed with much of anything that Brandon Jennings does. Kid is a Laker fan from Compton, he's gonna ride Kobe.

[moe94]

yes i agree that mj is the goat

but people here are acting like they are smarter when it comes to basketball than an nba starter..
Being talented enough to play in the NBA doesn't mean your opinions on ball are absolute.

[Fudge]

He's still going.


BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 50m
For the Person who brought up Gary Payton Kobe didn't win a ring with him. #Payattention #KeepUp

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 55m
Y'all caught up in the moment look at the facts....

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 56m
Dennis Rodman.... Come on now! Not even close

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 57m
Scott Pippen.... We don't even have to say.

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 57m
Ron Harper is better PG, then any PG Kobe ever had

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 59m
If y'all actually take the time out to look up the history/Facts you would know. #SitUpinClass

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 1h
MJ & Tim Duncan both had better supporting cast then Kobe. #Fact #SitUpinClass #LookattheFacts

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 1h
It's only one player compared to MJ, and that's Kobe. Now Kobe change the mindset of a lot of players today!!! #Fact #SitUpinClass

BRANDON JENNINGS ‏@BrandonJennings 1h
People always telling me Kobe Bryant greatest is Tricky. But MJ supporting cast was better then Kobe's. Hmm

:roll:

[HurricaneKid]

yes i agree that mj is the goat

but people here are acting like they are smarter when it comes to basketball than an nba starter..

And in the case of Brandon Jennings they would be right. I have watched him chuck his way through 4 seasons with the Bucks. Worst BBIQ of any player I have ever seen. He has literally gotten worse every year he has been in the league.

Here is his +/- for his last season in Milwaukee, when he swore he should be an all-star and the only reason he wasn't was that he was in Milwaukee:

OFFENSIVELY:
Milwaukee w/o Jennings : 107.3/100poss
Milwaukee w/ Jennings : 103.5/100poss

DEFENSIVELY
Milwaukee w/o Jennings : 99.5/100 poss
Milwaukee w/Jennings : 108.7/100 poss

Without Jennings on the floor the Bucks outscored their opponents by 163 points. With Jennings on the floor they were outscored by 286. His impact on points/100 possessions was -13.0. He somehow managed to parlay that into a fairly big contract with Detroit. Last year he was DEAD LAST in the NBA in RAPM for players with over 7000 min. He is AWFUL. And the way he plays is even worse. He is the one person I would not want vouching for me on the court.

[Milbuck]

Ah, Jennings. Master of the wide open fadeaway 3.

[BuGzBuNNy]

Its not like people weren't saying it when he was the best in the league. And not just any random fan, plenty of respectable people around that time were calling him the greatest. A few years go by and now people are trying to push him out of the top 10...

[IGOTGAME]

And in the case of Brandon Jennings they would be right. I have watched him chuck his way through 4 seasons with the Bucks. Worst BBIQ of any player I have ever seen. He has literally gotten worse every year he has been in the league.

Here is his +/- for his last season in Milwaukee, when he swore he should be an all-star and the only reason he wasn't was that he was in Milwaukee:

OFFENSIVELY:
Milwaukee w/o Jennings : 107.3/100poss
Milwaukee w/ Jennings : 103.5/100poss

DEFENSIVELY
Milwaukee w/o Jennings : 99.5/100 poss
Milwaukee w/Jennings : 108.7/100 poss

Without Jennings on the floor the Bucks outscored their opponents by 163 points. With Jennings on the floor they were outscored by 286. His impact on points/100 possessions was -13.0. He somehow managed to parlay that into a fairly big contract with Detroit. Last year he was DEAD LAST in the NBA in RAPM for players with over 7000 min. He is AWFUL. And the way he plays is even worse. He is the one person I would not want vouching for me on the court.

If you put an average ISHer on the court doing practive he would be lost. Lost in rotations, lost in the technical aspects of the game. This is because most people here have never played a minute of college basketball or been coached by elite coaches. Not saying that the latter is sufficient to having high bball IQ but it is necessary.

An if BJ is playing to maximize his worth a bball player than this inefficient style hasn't been too bad to him.

[HurricaneKid]

If you put an average ISHer on the court doing practive he would be lost. Lost in rotations, lost in the technical aspects of the game. This is because most people here have never played a minute of college basketball or been coached by elite coaches. Not saying that the latter is sufficient to having high bball IQ but it is necessary.

An if BJ is playing to maximize his worth a bball player than this inefficient style hasn't been too bad to him.

Sadly, this is quite evident.

But as far as players I would listen to the opinions of, Brandon Jennings would be dead last out of any NBA player. And not because he said this but because of who he is, how he plays, and what he strives to be.

Its not what was said that bothers me; he was coming of age during Kobe's peak. Its that I don't respect his basketball acumen because it screams selfish play. He is not the kind of character witness Kobe would want.

[L8kersfan222]

kobe fan but






























































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[MP.Trey]

Low IQ chucker chooses a fellow low iq chucker as his greatest of all-time. Shocker.

[Trollsmasher]

those hashtags:lol

he is right tho:coleman:

not only MJ did not win without Pip, he does not even have a winning record without him

[Rekindled]

well jenning has never been known for intelligence

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Confirmation that Kobe isn't the greatest player of all time..

[rmt]

Pippen > Gasol

Kobe proved he could with without a top 50 GOAT, in 08 he led a team to the Finals without a single other all-star on the roster.

In 99, 03, and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-star.

In 99, 03, 05 and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-nba team mate.

So what does that make Duncan then?

[secund2nun]

Lol figures an overrated chucker likes a supremely overrated chucker.....Jennings has low IQ on and off the court. I bet he thinks Stakehouse is better than Mutombo.

[ralph_i_el]

And we all know Jennings is a great decision maker lol

[SouBeachTalents]

In 99, 03, and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-star.

In 99, 03, 05 and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-nba team mate.

So what does that make Duncan then?

:cheers:

[gyu]

He young. He don't know no better.

[Fudge]

He young. He don't know no better.
Nigha is like 25 :lol

[HOoopCityJones]

In 99, 03, and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-star.

In 99, 03, 05 and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-nba team mate.

So what does that make Duncan then?

Take Robinson, Parker and Manu off those teams and Duncan doesn't win shit. the BS you guys like you spew about Kobe applies especially for Duncan.


He's never had to face an ounce of dysfunction from the Spurs organization in his life. While Kobe has had to deal with multiple personalities who thought they "knew" the way to winning in this league. You had Jerry, West, Phil , Mitch and now Jeanie & Jimmy.

When you have so many alpha personalities wanting to lead the pack it leads to drama and dysfunction. Duncan has always had the Pop safety net, he never had to worry because The Spurs were always willing to do what Pop wanted, unlike my Lakers who wanna change who they are every ****ing five years.

Do you honestly think we would've been in this current slump as an organization had they hired Brain Shaw and made Phil head of B-ball Operations like they should of after 2011? We'd probably have Dwight and CP3 right now.


Either way, I don't agree with BJ about Kobe being the greatest of all time, but He is in that 6-8 range, whether the haters like it or not.

[ralph_i_el]

Take Robinson, Parker and Manu off those teams and Duncan doesn't win shit. the BS you guys like you spew about Kobe applies especially for Duncan.


He's never had to face an ounce of dysfunction from the Spurs organization in his life. While Kobe has had to deal with multiple personalities who thought they "knew" the way to winning in this league. You had Jerry, West, Phil , Mitch and now Jeanie & Jimmy.

When you have so many alpha personalities wanting to lead the pack it leads to drama and dysfunction. Duncan has always had the Pop safety net, he never had to worry because The Spurs were always willing to do what Pop wanted, unlike my Lakers who wanna change who they are every ****ing five years.

Do you honestly think we would've been in this current slump as an organization had they hired Brain Shaw and made Phil head of B-ball Operations like they should of after 2011? We'd probably have Dwight and CP3 right now.


Either way, I don't agree with BJ about Kobe being the greatest of all time, but He is in that 6-8 range, whether the haters like it or not.

Take the best 4 players of any championship team and they don't so shit:facepalm

Last year the heat would have made the playoffs minus bosh, wade, and Allen though. More than you could say for Kobe.

[sportjames23]

those hashtags:lol

he is right tho:coleman:

not only MJ did not win without Pip, he does not even have a winning record without him


Lebron ain't win without Wade. He even got swept without him.

[SouBeachTalents]

Take the best 4 players of any championship team and they don't so shit:facepalm

Last year the heat would have made the playoffs minus bosh, wade, and Allen though. More than you could say for Kobe.

:oldlol: Exactly, pretty horrible example

[rmt]

Take Robinson, Parker and Manu off those teams and Duncan doesn't win shit. the BS you guys like you spew about Kobe applies especially for Duncan.


He's never had to face an ounce of dysfunction from the Spurs organization in his life. While Kobe has had to deal with multiple personalities who thought they "knew" the way to winning in this league. You had Jerry, West, Phil , Mitch and now Jeanie & Jimmy.

When you have so many alpha personalities wanting to lead the pack it leads to drama and dysfunction. Duncan has always had the Pop safety net, he never had to worry because The Spurs were always willing to do what Pop wanted, unlike my Lakers who wanna change who they are every ****ing five years.

Do you honestly think we would've been in this current slump as an organization had they hired Brain Shaw and made Phil head of B-ball Operations like they should of after 2011? We'd probably have Dwight and CP3 right now.


Either way, I don't agree with BJ about Kobe being the greatest of all time, but He is in that 6-8 range, whether the haters like it or not.

Kobe stans have no leg to stand on when it comes to team mates - Kobe has had the MDE Shaq in his prime for 8 years. Can you imagine if Duncan had Shaq as a team mate how many rings they'd win together? Not to mention they wouldn't have broken up.

Kobe's had the benefit of a better owner who's willing to spend money, better coach, better team mates (except obviously now), better city to attract free agents and lots of money (tv deals, expensive seats, etc) to go over the cap. Cry me a river - try almost always being under luxury tax, trading away talent like Scola just to get rid of Jackie Butler's contract - that'd be peanuts to the Lakers.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Kobe is part of the problem in LA - that his chucking, his "I'm still the man" attitude, his not taking less in this CBA - contributes to all the stuff that's going on in LA.

[OldSchoolBBall]

For some reason, most people who are Jordan haters or who try to diminish Jordan always misspell his name as "Micheal."

[rmt]

Both Pop and Horry have said that Pop can coach the way he does because Duncan "allows" it (takes the coaching) and everybody falls in line because the superstar does.

When Kobe ignores the coach and goes into his chucking mode or neglects the defense, what kind of example is the leader of the team setting and what is a coach to do?

[JohnFreeman]

Who gives a shit

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Lebron ain't win without Wade. He even got swept without him.
You mean when he was 22? Against the spurs? With popovich as the opposing head coach and mike Brown as his own? Larry Hughes was the #2 option?

[Soundwave]

The repeat Kobe-era Lakers were fairly loaded, I don't buy the argument that they weren't a good team.

Pau Gasol (prime) - His impact is underrated because he was one of the few real centers even playing in this era.

Lamar Odom - Underrated, guy who could do a bit of everything.

Andrew Bynum - Somewhat overrated, but still a legit talent, and a legit 7 footer.

Ron Artest - Former perrenial All-Star, high level defender.

[HOoopCityJones]

The repeat Kobe-era Lakers were fairly loaded, I don't buy the argument that they weren't a good team.

Pau Gasol (prime) - His impact is underrated because he was one of the few real centers even playing in this era.

Lamar Odom - Underrated, guy who could do a bit of everything.

Andrew Bynum - Somewhat overrated, but still a legit talent, and a legit 7 footer.

Ron Artest - Former perrenial All-Star, high level defender.


http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/lakers/season_photos/season_2009_2010.jpg

Too stacked. :roll:

The trio of Mbenga , Walton and Josh Powell will stand the test of time.

You guys are more delusional than Jennings.

Outside of Pau and on some nights Odom, we had no one.

Odom's best year for us didn't even come until we were swept in 2011, and even then he disappeared in the Playoffs.

[Soundwave]

http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/lakers/season_photos/season_2009_2010.jpg

Too stacked. :roll:

In a league where most teams don't even have 1 good center, to have 1 All-Star center and another pretty good center, plus Odom, plus Artest (a guy who was an All-Star and one of the best defenders of his era) is nothing to scoff at.

Fisher is a very good role player too.

All of them were at a pretty good age too ... Kobe was 29/30, Artest was a year younger, Odom was still in his late 20s, Gasol was in his late 20s, so was Bynum. Good mix of being not too young, but not too old.

[JT123]

http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/lakers/season_photos/season_2009_2010.jpg

Too stacked. :roll:

The trio of Mbenga , Walton and Josh Powell will stand the test of time.

You guys are more delusional than Jennings.

Outside of Pau and on some nights Odom, we had no one.

Odom's best year for us didn't even come until we were swept in 2011, and even then he disappeared in the Playoffs.
No one huh?
Fisher = one of the most clutch shooters in NBA playoff history
Sasha and Farmar = 2 lethal 3 point snipers coming off the bench
Shannon Brown = the league's first mini Lebron James
Phil Jackson = greatest coach ever

What bums you guys had. :facepalm

[Milbuck]

Shannon Brown = the league's first mini Lebron James

Are you suggesting the only thing separating Lebron James and Shannon Brown is size?

[SouBeachTalents]

In a league where most teams don't even have 1 good center, to have 1 All-Star center and another pretty good center, plus Odom, plus Artest (a guy who was an All-Star and one of the best defenders of his era) is nothing to scoff at.

Fisher is a very good role player too.

All of them were at a pretty good age too ... Kobe was 29/30, Artest was a year younger, Odom was still in his late 20s, Gasol was in his late 20s, so was Bynum. Good mix of being not too young, but not too old.

Exactly. It'd be absurd to call them "stacked", but that's far from a poor supporting cast, it's a solid group of teammates

[HOoopCityJones]

In a league where most teams don't even have 1 good center, to have 1 All-Star center and another pretty good center, plus Odom, plus Artest (a guy who was an All-Star and one of the best defenders of his era) is nothing to scoff at.

Fisher is a very good role player too.

Oh shut the **** up.


Everyone's favorite rooty poo Goat , needed another Superstar, a Top 5 PF in the league, three point specialists like Ray Allen, Shane Battier and Miller. And even after that the "srcubs" on the Team are the likes of Beasley , Chalmers and Rashad Lewis who used to be some shit.

You can now find him in Cleveland re-stacking the deck once again this time with THE best PF in the league and a Top 3 or 4 PG in Irving.

Kobe has never had a Team as loaded as Lebron. Even his Cavs teams before he left were better than anything Kobe had from 05-07.

LOL@ propping up Artest, he used to make cringe plays on most nights and he only redeemed himself on a play in Phoenix and it's a flatout miracle he hit that three in Pierce's face during the Finals , any true Laker fan was trying to scratch their eyeballs out when that happened, but what do you know, he hit.


Odom wasn't truly ballin out until 2011, Bynum a year after that, his one and only All-star year.

[JT123]

Are you suggesting the only thing separating Lebron James and Shannon Brown is size?
Shannon was never as good of a passer as Lebron, but back in his Laker days he was an athletic freak who could occasionally shoot the lights out. Very underrated player.

[Soundwave]

The tricky thing about the Lakers is Odom + Bynum was a nice luxury to have, even if neither one may have a monster series, between the two you'd get 15 ppg + 11 rpg for the night fairly even on a bad night for both.

On a good night you're probably looking at 28-32 ppg + 15/17 rpg from those two.

Having those two after the trio of Kobe-Gasol-Artest was not too shabby at all.

[Fudge]

Lol @ Shannon Brown being a mini LeBron.

Says more about LeBron. :hammerhead:

[JohnFreeman]

Shannon was never as good of a passer as Lebron, but back in his Laker days he was an athletic freak who could occasionally shoot the lights out. Very underrated player.
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[HOoopCityJones]

The tricky thing about the Lakers is Odom + Bynum was a nice luxury to have, even if neither one may have a monster series, between the two you'd get 15 ppg + 11 rpg for the night fairly even on a bad night for both.

On a good night you're probably looking at 28-32 ppg + 15/17 rpg from those two.

Having those two after the trio of Kobe-Gasol-Artest was not too shabby at all.

:roll: Bynum never dropped anything close to this our championship years, if he did it was an accident.

[JT123]

Oh shut the **** up.


Everyone's favorite rooty poo Goat , needed another Superstar, a Top 5 PF in the league, three point specialists like Ray Allen, Shane Battier and Miller. And even after that the "srcubs" on the Team are the likes of Beasley , Chalmers and Rashad Lewis who used to be some shit.

You can now find him in Cleveland re-stacking the deck once again this time with THE best PF in the league and a Top 3 or 4 PG in Irving.

Kobe has never had a Team as loaded as Lebron. Even his Cavs teams before he left were better than anything Kobe had from 05-07.

LOL@ propping up Artest, he used to make cringe plays on most nights and he only redeemed himself on a play in Phoenix and it's a flatout miracle he hit that three in Pierce's face during the Finals , any true Laker fan was trying to scratch their eyeballs out when that happened, but what do you know, he hit.


Odom wasn't truly ballin out until 2011, Bynum a year after that, his one and only All-star year.
You lost all credibility when you called Irving a top 3 or 4 PG. :facepalm
And LOL at calling Battier a 3 point specialist! 2013 was the ONLY year he was even average with his 3 point shot, and last season he was horrible. Mike Miller barely even played when he was on the team, and Allen is a bajillion years old. Kobe stans reaching hard with this shit. :oldlol:

[Keno]

both are randoms.

[Soundwave]

:roll: Bynum never dropped anything close to this our championship years, if he did it was an accident.

I'm saying in unison, the Lakers could get that production from Odom + Bynum together on any given night ... which was a nice luxury to have when they are your 4th and 5th options in a lot of ways.

If the Lakers main three was Kobe-Gasol-Artest, that's a pretty good big 3, certainly not the greatest trio ever, but pretty good. Yes I would say Jordan-Pippen-Rodman or LeBron-Wade-Bosh are the better big 3.

But I'd take Odom-Bynum-Fisher as 4/5/6 best players over Kukoc-Longley-Kerr (the comparables on Bulls).

Allen-Andersen-Chalmers on the Heat is closer, but yeah I still probably take the Odom/Bynum/Fisher trio. Better defensively and the size of Odom + Bynum wears down other teams over the course of a 7 game series and it means you can still play big even when Gasol is resting.

So they are deceptively deeper than a lot of people give them credit for.

[HOoopCityJones]

You lost all credibility when you called Irving a top 3 or 4 PG. :facepalm
And LOL at calling Battier a 3 point specialist! 2013 was the ONLY year he was even average with his 3 point shot, and last season he was horrible. Mike Miller barely even played when he was on the team, and Allen is a bajillion years old. Kobe stans reaching hard with this shit. :oldlol:

And you are? :biggums:

Your relevance to life escapes me. :confusedshrug:


@Soundwave: Agree to disagree in that case, all I know is Kobe is Kobe and Jordan is GOAT.

[JT123]

And you are? :biggums:

Your relevance to life escapes me. :confusedshrug:


@Soundwave: Agree to disagree in that case, all I know is Kobe is Kobe and Jordan is GOAT.
:applause: Deflection. Classic Kobe stan tactic when they can't dispute the facts. :banana:

[Warfan]

Now he's backtracking :oldlol:


The debate wasn't about who's the better player. It was about who had the better Supporting Cast. Winning Rings!!!!


This not about who's better between MJ & Kobe. I just feel MJ supporting case was better. #Facts

#SitUpinClass

[Kingwillball]

In Fact Kobe is one the most overrated Ever.. Not even a top 10 player and if he didn't have Shaq would of been much like Lebron in terms of Titles 2-5..

[gilalizard]

Low IQ chucker chooses a fellow low iq chucker as his greatest of all-time. Shocker.

That's the thing about Kobe. He's not a low iq player, but he is a chucker.

He's got good bball IQ. But he can't resist taking all them shots. He just can't help himself.

[SouBeachTalents]

That's the thing about Kobe. He's not a low iq player, but he is a chucker.

He's got good bball IQ. But he can't resist taking all them shots. He just can't help himself.

That white girl in Colorado can confirm this

[MC Gusto]

Nothing surprising here....anybody close to his age that grew up in or nearby L.A. thinks that Kobe is the GOAT.

[JohnFreeman]

Why is Jennings in the league?

[Milbuck]

Why is Jennings in the league?
Dude put up 55 points his rookie year...now he's only relevant because of some stupid little twitter argument. At this rate he'll be a Beijing Duck by 2017.

[JohnFreeman]

Dude put up 55 points his rookie year...now he's only relevant because of some stupid little twitter argument. At this rate he'll be a Beijing Duck by 2017.
Good, I bet you are glad he is gone.

[DaOldLion]

In 99, 03, and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-star.

In 99, 03, 05 and 07, Duncan led a team to a championship without a single other all-nba team mate.

So what does that make Duncan then?

You should be negged into oblivion for stating Duncan in 99 took a team to a championship without an all star. Pop led a team to a championship that year without a single all star :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

07? He wasn't event FMVP

Jesus

[Fudge]

I like Brandon Jennings because he's part of Drake's crew. OVO till I die, mother****ers.

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

So, Brandon Jennings posts on ISH, huh? I wonder what his username is.

[Eric Cartman]

So, Brandon Jennings posts on ISH, huh? I wonder what his username is.

My guess is Godbe.

[BoutPractice]

At this rate he'll be a Beijing Duck by 2017.
:lol

Beijing, the new go-to destination for washed up NBA vets.

To be fair, it used to be the New York Knicks.

[ImKobe]

So, Dirk calls Kobe the greatest of his generation, Wade calls Kobe 2nd greatest all-time, Jennings says Kobe is GOAT, Lebron has admitted that Kobe's a better player than him (back in 09, when many people considered Lebron to be at his peak). Magic called Kobe the GOAT Laker (since Magic was a laker lifer, better than Magic), West called Kobe the GOAT Laker.

What else do we need?

[JohnFreeman]

So, Dirk calls Kobe the greatest of his generation, Wade calls Kobe 2nd greatest all-time, Jennings says Kobe is GOAT, Lebron has admitted that Kobe's a better player than him (back in 09, when many people considered Lebron to be at his peak). Magic called Kobe the GOAT Laker (since Magic was a laker lifer, better than Magic), West called Kobe the GOAT Laker.

What else do we need?
More rings as the man, MVPs that aren't lifetime achievement awards

[ImKobe]

More rings as the man, MVPs that aren't lifetime achievement awards

Salty. Queens fans' opinions don't count.

[Fudge]

Salty. Queens fans' opinions don't count.
Lmao

[Heavincent]

More rings as the man, MVPs that aren't lifetime achievement awards

Even though Kobe was clearly the best player in the game and had the best record in the west despite playing with a crappy team for the first half of the season.

[rmt]

You should be negged into oblivion for stating Duncan in 99 took a team to a championship without an all star. Pop led a team to a championship that year without a single all star :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

07? He wasn't event FMVP

Jesus

I'm stating a FACT that Duncan took a team to a championship without an all-star or all-nba team mate in 99. What - the Pop that had a 73-73 NBA record before the 98-99 season?

2006-07 regular season

Duncan 20 pts / 10.6 rebs / 3.4 asst / 2.4 blks 54.6%
Parker 18.6 pts / 5.5 assts 52%

2007 playoffs

Duncan 22.2 pts / 11.5 rebs / 3.3 asst / 3.1 blks 52.1%
Parker 20.8 pts / 5.8 assts 48%

Just because whoever votes for FMVP are dazzled by offensive output and ignore the other half of the court (where the series was won by controlling Lebron) doesn't mean that Duncan didn't lead the team to a championship in 07. Do you really believe that whoever wins FMVP led the team to a championship? I guess Leonard LED the Spurs in 2014 then (based off production in 3 Finals games).

[rhowen4]

Lol that 3rd tweet is out of control

[ImKobe]

Even though Kobe was clearly the best player in the game and had the best record in the west despite playing with a crappy team for the first half of the season.

Kobe with Bynum in 08 was on a 56-win pace, Bynum went down and Lakers had no decent big man for a month, get Pau, finish with 57 wins. What does that tell you?

[bizil]

In terms of total skill on both sides of the rock, it comes down MJ, Kobe, and Bron for perimeter players peak wise and GOAT wise. Only those three guys can really say they can play or defend PG, SG, and SF at great levels, freak athletes, and are alpha dog scorers. U could argue guys like a G Hill at his best or maybe Drexler. But Lebron and MJ redefined the sport totally while Kobe expanded on some things MJ did. Such as exploring the three ball more and bringing that new school And 1 handles and attitude to the game. But Kobe didn't really revolutionize basketball.

Peak and GOAT is two different criteria. So Jennings is FOR SURE WRONG on that list as of now. And peak wise for perimeter players, u can make the case Kobe is number two behind MJ. But's he so similar to MJ that he JUST FALLS SHORT. And u can't forget Bird and Magic peak wise as well. Those two along with LeBron have a versatility MJ and Kobe can't match in terms of size and ability.

[FaceSmack]

He's right doe

[sportjames23]

He's right doe


negged

[Eric Cartman]

He played against Lebron and Kobe, so I'll take his opinion for it.

Similar to Jamal Crawford saying Kobe was this generations Michael Jordan, it seems that their respective peers chose Kobe over Lebron as the greater player.

Magic Johnson is also on record saying Kobe Bryant is a greater player than he ever was.

Kobe Bryant = Top 5 GOAT, handsome too.