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Jameerthefear
08-19-2014, 06:49 PM
There's a video of it on Liveleak... I'm not linking it.

Patrick Chewing
08-19-2014, 06:56 PM
Here's the link I posted from the other ISIS thread:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351168&page=8

dude77
08-19-2014, 06:57 PM
christ .. no american should be over there .. unless absolutely necessary

BasedTom
08-19-2014, 07:19 PM
Pope Francis gonna call a Crusade soon, watch

ISIS is dumb as hell. Soon Christians will take back their rightful lands and bring justice to the radical Islamist and Zionist war criminals that have brought turmoil to the region

Deus Vult

DwnShft2Xcelr8
08-19-2014, 07:29 PM
Why 1st World-ers are still heading out there is beyond me. Even if you're a journalist, your life should be more important to you than a news story.

MMM
08-19-2014, 07:41 PM
Why 1st World-ers are still heading out there is beyond me. Even if you're a journalist, your life should be more important to you than a news story.

Don't necessarily disagree but too some the idea of journalism is worth dying for too keep the rest of us informed. If everyone valued their own safety over "the story" than the public would be a lot less informed.

chazzy
08-19-2014, 07:56 PM
Ugh...

Smook A.
08-19-2014, 08:05 PM
That was disgusting.

This is the first time I've actually seen someone getting beheaded like that.

dude77
08-19-2014, 08:13 PM
That was disgusting.

This is the first time I've actually seen someone getting beheaded like that.

like what ?

Smook A.
08-19-2014, 08:18 PM
like what ?
The guy who killed him cut his head off with a small knife. First time I've watched that. The beheadings I've seen were either from a sword or sledgehammer.

KingBeasley08
08-19-2014, 08:34 PM
Kill those fckers. Bring hell on ISIS. I been against a US military asskicking recently but I'm starting to come around.


Time to remind ISIS what the US military is capable of

senelcoolidge
08-19-2014, 08:41 PM
Pope Francis gonna call a Crusade soon, watch

ISIS is dumb as hell. Soon Christians will take back their rightful lands and bring justice to the radical Islamist and Zionist war criminals that have brought turmoil to the region

Deus Vult

As far as they are concerned this is the Crusades for them. They want to take over the infidel lands..that means your neighborhood. The best thing is to deal with them once and for all. It wouldn't be easy but it can happen. It would make the world a better place somewhat.

Jello
08-19-2014, 08:44 PM
Send the navy seals to rescue the other journalist, bitch ass Obama.

dude77
08-19-2014, 09:09 PM
The guy who killed him cut his head off with a small knife. First time I've watched that. The beheadings I've seen were either from a sword or sledgehammer.

sledgehammer ??? maximizing brutality I guess .. oh wait .. you mean a sledgehammer to the head .. as in with enough force to decap ? .. I always wonder at what point does someone lose consciousness .. can't imagine being awake for too long while you're having your freakin head severed .. that's gotta suck balls

Patrick Chewing
08-19-2014, 09:10 PM
I wonder how many more Gitmo terrorists Obama will release to save the second guy in the clip.



And before you Libtards attack me for bringing Obama into the mix, watch the damn video for ****'s sake. This ISIS pig's message is strictly for Obama.

dude77
08-19-2014, 09:11 PM
Send the navy seals to rescue the other journalist, bitch ass Obama.

I was thinking this .. it would be great if they could do that but sadly I highly doubt it and they're gonna keep bombing so that fella is toast .. what a way to spend your last days .. wondering in terror when you're gonna get your head cut off

Droid101
08-19-2014, 09:35 PM
I wonder how many more Gitmo terrorists Obama will release to save the second guy in the clip.



And before you Libtards attack me for bringing Obama into the mix, watch the damn video for ****'s sake. This ISIS pig's message is strictly for Obama.
Bush released more Gitmo prisoners than Obama ever did.

But, keep on ****ing that chicken.

JohnFreeman
08-19-2014, 09:37 PM
The video on liveleak doesn't have the beheading, damn it

Patrick Chewing
08-19-2014, 09:44 PM
Bush released more Gitmo prisoners than Obama ever did.

But, keep on ****ing that chicken.


I don't recall ISIS existing under Bush's watch.


But if we can release 5 bad guys for a traitorous soldier, then I'm sure we can release a few more for an innocent journalist.

Droid101
08-19-2014, 09:46 PM
I don't recall ISIS existing under Bush's watch.


But if we can release 5 bad guys for a traitorous soldier, then I'm sure we can release a few more for an innocent journalist.
Cool strawmen.

Let that region defend itself. Why do you neo-cons need to get involved?

If you and your sons enlist, then I will take your opinion seriously on this topic.

russwest0
08-19-2014, 09:49 PM
why did the guy reading that script seem kind of like he agreed with it

JohnFreeman
08-19-2014, 09:54 PM
why did the guy reading that script seem kind of like he agreed with it
because they probably didn't kill him, and he has joined the ranks of the ISIS

TheGreatBlaze
08-19-2014, 10:14 PM
Join our religion of peace, or we'll kill you!

senelcoolidge
08-19-2014, 10:22 PM
Cool strawmen.

Let that region defend itself. Why do you neo-cons need to get involved?

If you and your sons enlist, then I will take your opinion seriously on this topic.

You say leave them alone, but you know that they will eventually get here. Some are here already. Look this is pretty much the whole Nazi situation again. You don't leave them alone like people wanted to do back in the 30's...see where that led. Don't let bad history repeat it self.

no pun intended
08-19-2014, 10:54 PM
The video on liveleak doesn't have the beheading, damn it
It's right at the end.

JohnFreeman
08-19-2014, 11:00 PM
It's right at the end.
Wasn't even bad, I have seen worse

Le Shaqtus
08-19-2014, 11:03 PM
Fck... Captive for 2 years just to get beheaded.

No one deserves that.

BasedTom
08-19-2014, 11:20 PM
Fck... Captive for 2 years just to get beheaded.

No one deserves that.
Ever heard of lex talionis?

I say this bastard playing dress-up as a desert ninja and brutally killing innocents has shown that he is definitely deserving of such a cruel fate.

Nick Young
08-20-2014, 03:30 AM
Join our religion of peace, or we'll kill you!
Islam inspires peace and love for your fellow man.

And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)

Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.

Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority.

They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

Nick Young
08-20-2014, 03:34 AM
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them


OOOO So thats why so many muslims are becoming terrorists and chopping peoples heads off. Because the Koran literally is telling people to do that. I understand now.

And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

What an accepting, loving and peaceful religion

And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.

Sounds like a nice thing to write in a holy book.


Does anyone know is there anything in the Koran about loving your fellow man, regardless of if they're muslim or not? Someone gotta edit or rewrite this thing. They need a new prophet.

ace23
08-20-2014, 04:17 AM
That was disgusting.

This is the first time I've actually seen someone getting beheaded like that.
They didn't even really show it. Cut right through it to the end.

Dresta
08-20-2014, 05:36 AM
Anyone who thinks that just leaving well alone is going to solve the problem has to be pretty deluded. These 9th century barbarians have been at war with us since long before most leftist Islamist apologisers had even heard of them as a geopolitical force. There are no quick fixes, and really, what's the point in having a military if you are too scared to use it to defend your interests/way of life/civilisation from a bunch of barbarians?

tomtucker
08-20-2014, 05:42 AM
That was disgusting.

This is the first time I've actually seen someone getting beheaded like that.

what are you talking about.........the cutting was not shown............for some strange reason btw ???

robert de niro
08-20-2014, 05:47 AM
weak era for necks

S13M
08-20-2014, 05:56 AM
Don't necessarily disagree but too some the idea of journalism is worth dying for too keep the rest of us informed. If everyone valued their own safety over "the story" than the public would be a lot less informed.

So they're basically martyrs. Do they get 70 virgins?

tomtucker
08-20-2014, 05:58 AM
@stainlineho See the problem we have now that we beat Hitler? Scum like this is alive, and not only that, there are also those "peaceful protesters" in Ferguson, Palestinians, Chinese poachers who invade South Africa and India, beliebers, and so many other kinds of scum. Seriously, we need a HitlerV2. Just wipe out all scum on Earth. It's better to do the bad thing once than having to deal with so much more shit afterwards.
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Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f78_1408486626#tzJ8CRl6mlzjk7TO.99

32jazz
08-20-2014, 07:22 AM
He was held captive for 2 years... what a long time to wait just to get beheaded.


America has held innocent men captive for far longer periods before they are executed.

LJJ
08-20-2014, 08:01 AM
High production value, very clear message and very clear narrative. Every thing about it shows they know who their target audience is. It's very different from their "celebratory" videos made for a Muslim audience. It's careful, deliberate, it's directed.

IS are not barbarians. Hell, the executioner himself is clearly a British citizen. IS is an organisation compromised of young, well off, educated Muslims. Largely hailing from Europe. They are not backwards, conservative Muslims. They are young, revolutionary, progressive Muslims.

Dresta
08-20-2014, 08:10 AM
High production value, very clear message and very clear narrative. Every thing about it shows they know who their target audience is. It's very different from their "celebratory" videos made for a Muslim audience. It's careful, deliberate, it's directed.

IS are not barbarians. Hell, the executioner himself is clearly a British citizen. IS is an organisation compromised of young, well off, educated Muslims. Largely hailing from Europe. They are not backwards, conservative Muslims. They are young, revolutionary, progressive Muslims.
:facepalm

First, you should look up the definition of barbarian, and second, you should take note that being educated does not preclude being reactionary, nor being barbaric. Amazing that anyone could consider a group seeking the restoration of the 9th century caliphate alongside tribalistic laws and customs could be regarded as anything other than reactionary. If progressive means going back in time over a thousand years, then yeah, these guys are pretty progressive.

dude77
08-20-2014, 08:11 AM
High production value, very clear message and very clear narrative. Every thing about it shows they know who their target audience is. It's very different from their "celebratory" videos made for a Muslim audience. It's careful, deliberate, it's directed.

IS are not barbarians. Hell, the executioner himself is clearly a British citizen. IS is an organisation compromised of young, well off, educated Muslims. Largely hailing from Europe. They are not backwards, conservative Muslims. They are young, revolutionary, progressive Muslims.

they behead small children up close and personal .. hard to not call them barbarians

poido123
08-20-2014, 09:15 AM
Muslim immigration needs to be stopped in all western countries.

Its not that every Muslim is a radical terrorist, but a country needs to protect itself from the ones who are. The Quran makes it clear that we are the enemy in short, the war has been happening for a while now, just not the direct ones we are used to seeing like a world war.

In 20 years, Australia will be out bred by Muslims going at the birthrate it is now. Our laws and government will be manipulated in such a way that sharia law will be enforced here too.

Americans need to stand up and make it known they are not welcome in your country, like us.

Take your mosques and sharia law in which you try to impose on western countries and FCK right off.

If Americans,Australians and whatever western nation continue to watch and wait for things to develop, it might become too late. There are probably already a number of sinister plans that are taking place in your country now.

Call me a racist, but it gets to the point where you have to open your eyes to the bullshit.

Nick Young
08-20-2014, 09:21 AM
High production value, very clear message and very clear narrative. Every thing about it shows they know who their target audience is. It's very different from their "celebratory" videos made for a Muslim audience. It's careful, deliberate, it's directed.

IS are not barbarians. Hell, the executioner himself is clearly a British citizen. IS is an organisation compromised of young, well off, educated Muslims. Largely hailing from Europe. They are not backwards, conservative Muslims. They are young, revolutionary, progressive Muslims.
chopping off heads and having their kids hold up the severed heads while smiling, and taking photos of it, and putting it online=barbarianism dawg.

Nick Young
08-20-2014, 09:26 AM
Call me a racist, but it gets to the point where you have to open your eyes to the bullshit.
I used to call people with your ideas racist, constantly try to convince myself that Islam as a whole is a peaceful religion with only a tiny amount of nutjobs, but the more I see and the longer I live life, I find myself agreeing with you.

Also I lived in a muslim country, a country considered 'moderate' at the time, Egypt, and saw first hand how backwards and militant it was over there. Every single day was woken up to guys shouting off their minarets on megaphones urging people to jihad and kill all jews and shit like that.

If your religious leaders are screaming this shit at you constantly from a young age, I understand why it is creating so many hateful psychos.


Still I tried to convince myself the majority of Muslims arent like that, and that the religion itself is peaceful.

Then I read the Koran.

No the shit in there is not comparable to the bible. The Koran constantly urges its followers to jihad against infidels and behead non-believers and to strike terror in to the enemy through whatever means possible and shit like that. ISIS is just doing exactly what it says in the Koran.

Where I live in London, Muslim immigrants are making ZERO efforts to integrate, and are even forcing their religious views on everyone else. For example, the state sponsored community center and gym near my house has THREE womens only periods a week, to accomodate women who are afraid of men seeing them work out with semi-tight clothes.

During this time, staff, that are funded by the UK government are rude to any male who walks up to the front desk and tells them to leave the community center. I am paying the same amount as these women and told to GTFO. It's stupid shit like that, that is slowly growing and growing, that leads me to believe it when people claim Muslims do want Sharia law, and ARE trying to take the western world over.

If people question these religious sharia views being forced upon non-muslims they are branded Islamaphobes and racists.

I dont want to believe it, it sounds crazy, but all evidence is pointing to it. I want to believe that muslims just want to practice their religion in peace and don't want Jihad, and want to integrate in to society and get a long with everyone regardless of their race or religion, but it really doesn't seem like they do.

LJJ
08-20-2014, 09:34 AM
:facepalm

First, you should look up the definition of barbarian, and second, you should take note that being educated does not preclude being reactionary, nor being barbaric. Amazing that anyone could consider a group seeking the restoration of the 9th century caliphate alongside tribalistic laws and customs could be regarded as anything other than reactionary. If progressive means going back in time over a thousand years, then yeah, these guys are pretty progressive.

A progressive wants change. These people loathe the secular, democratic societies they know and strongly press for a massive shift in society and massive reform. That's the defition of a progressive to me. A reactionary wants to keep things the way they are.

These people largely come from secular, democtratic, first world countries. It runs in against the misconception is that these jihadist movements are the result of colonialism or US aggression in the ME, or tribalism or nationalism or anything of the sort. They are simply people who take their religion very seriously.

poido123
08-20-2014, 09:57 AM
I used to call people with your ideas racist, constantly try to convince myself that Islam as a whole is a peaceful religion with only a tiny amount of nutjobs, but the more I see and the longer I live life, I find myself agreeing with you.

Also I lived in a muslim country, a country considered 'moderate' at the time, Egypt, and saw first hand how backwards and militant it was over there. Every single day was woken up to guys shouting off their minarets on megaphones urging people to jihad and kill all jews and shit like that.

If your religious leaders are screaming this shit at you constantly from a young age, I understand why it is creating so many hateful psychos.


Still I tried to convince myself the majority of Muslims arent like that, and that the religion itself is peaceful.

Then I read the Koran.

No the shit in there is not comparable to the bible. The Koran constantly urges its followers to jihad against infidels and behead non-believers and to strike terror in to the enemy through whatever means possible and shit like that. ISIS is just doing exactly what it says in the Koran.

Where I live in London, Muslim immigrants are making ZERO efforts to integrate, and are even forcing their religious views on everyone else. For example, the state sponsored community center and gym near my house has THREE womens only periods a week, to accomodate women who are afraid of men seeing them work out with semi-tight clothes.

During this time, staff, that are funded by the UK government are rude to any male who walks up to the front desk and tells them to leave the community center. I am paying the same amount as these women and told to GTFO. It's stupid shit like that, that is slowly growing and growing, that leads me to believe it when people claim Muslims do want Sharia law, and ARE trying to take the western world over.

If people question these religious sharia views being forced upon non-muslims they are branded Islamaphobes and racists.

I dont want to believe it, it sounds crazy, but all evidence is pointing to it. I want to believe that muslims just want to practice their religion in peace and don't want Jihad, and want to integrate in to society and get a long with everyone regardless of their race or religion, but it really doesn't seem like they do.


I think the majority of western people fail to understand the significance of the Quran and how it influences Muslims. If people were able to see the direct threat from the teachings of this book, a lot more people would be alarmed with what is happening...

It is only now with the shocking social media videos and photos that the common Joe blow are now taking notice.

The threat is real. Muslims are being taught every day that our kind are the infidel. The Quran also mentions deception as a means to protect ones Muslim faith.

Don't think for a second that these people arent digging their claws into your countries weaknesses and will ultimately establish sharia law once they either breed you out or get Muslims in positions of power in your country.

Take a look at the problems in england. These people have no interest in adopting your cultural or nationalistic ways, but only to serve their own beliefs and ensure they lay a big dump in your backyard.

DwnShft2Xcelr8
08-20-2014, 10:36 AM
As a former Muslim, I have to say the religion is scum. All religions are scum, but this one in particular is oppressive as fukk.
BRB watching tv, listening to music, playing video games = instant hell
BRB lusting over female (a straight male's entire purpose in life) = instant hell
BRB can't read anything but the Qu'ran
BRB Muslims collectively act like angels during the month of Ramadan but go back to hypocritically sinning after it ends
BRB women are beneath men & are meant to be seen as property
BRB 300 A.D logic for everything
BRB kill "infidels" for having different view on things
BRB must pray 5 times/day no matter what or else... you're going to hell




All of my family still accepts Islam as their religion. None of them have terroristic view points, but then again, we're all in the United States. I can't help but wonder what would've happened if we were in the Middle East, Africa or South Asia. No thanks.

Trollsmasher
08-20-2014, 11:19 AM
Muslim immigration needs to be stopped in all western countries.

Its not that every Muslim is a radical terrorist, but a country needs to protect itself from the ones who are. The Quran makes it clear that we are the enemy in short, the war has been happening for a while now, just not the direct ones we are used to seeing like a world war.

In 20 years, Australia will be out bred by Muslims going at the birthrate it is now. Our laws and government will be manipulated in such a way that sharia law will be enforced here too.

Americans need to stand up and make it known they are not welcome in your country, like us.

Take your mosques and sharia law in which you try to impose on western countries and FCK right off.

If Americans,Australians and whatever western nation continue to watch and wait for things to develop, it might become too late. There are probably already a number of sinister plans that are taking place in your country now.

Call me a racist, but it gets to the point where you have to open your eyes to the bullshit.
I have your back. And this sentiment is growing strong around here. Some European countries are already lost though:facepalm

pauk
08-20-2014, 11:55 AM
Here's the link I posted from the other ISIS thread:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351168&page=8

How can you watch that shit? :biggums:

S13M
08-20-2014, 12:04 PM
I have your back. And this sentiment is growing strong around here. Some European countries are already lost though:facepalm

Looking at you Sweden and the UK.

Trollsmasher
08-20-2014, 12:19 PM
Looking at you Sweden and the UK.

71% of over-55s compared with 62% of 16 to 24-year-olds believe that they have as much, if not more, in common with non-Muslims in Britain than with Muslims abroad.
19% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools.
17% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer living under Sharia law than British law.
28% of over-55s compared with 74% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the Islamic headscarf.


4th generation will bring on the Caliphate:lol

Nick Young
08-20-2014, 12:25 PM
71% of over-55s compared with 62% of 16 to 24-year-olds believe that they have as much, if not more, in common with non-Muslims in Britain than with Muslims abroad.
19% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools.
17% of over-55s compared with 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer living under Sharia law than British law.
28% of over-55s compared with 74% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the Islamic headscarf.


4th generation will bring on the Caliphate:lol
this is what I dont get. Why would you want this oppressive shit:facepalm

Patrick Chewing
08-20-2014, 01:03 PM
How can you watch that shit? :biggums:


Easily. The world needs to watch that and see what kind of monsters are really out there and how easily they can reach your cushy way of life.


You're a Muslim, but not an Islamist. You may think it doesn't affect you, but it should. God is telling these monsters to kill these people, and these monsters don't fear death. That is the worst kind of enemy and they must all be destroyed.

zoom17
08-20-2014, 01:45 PM
Idiots killing an unarmed journalist won't stop the airstrikes hope the US bombs them even harder now.

BRabbiT
08-20-2014, 01:59 PM
http://i.cbc.ca/1.2741715.1408547543!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_300/journalist-slain-james-foley.jpg



damn:mad:

poido123
08-20-2014, 08:04 PM
I have your back. And this sentiment is growing strong around here. Some European countries are already lost though:facepalm


The sad part is the do-gooders and people who want to sit on the fence are the reason why these aggressive tactics are working.

The radicalism will consume and force other muslims to conform and make non-muslims conform or die.

You cannot take the "not all Muslims are like that" approach. The weaker ones or the ones who are peaceful will be left with no choice but to join them. The propaganda they are instilling in their children and across the world is already working, this can be stopped now, but it has to be swift and direct.

Right above us we have the largest Muslim nation in the world. They have already committed terrorist attacks on Australians and there will be more in the future I have no doubt.

I will bear arms and fight for my family if they decide to come here. I do not trust muslims one bit.

As for James Foley, that poor guy must of went through hell. Such a weak and sickening act. I couldn't imagine how his family must feel watching that happen...

Rodmantheman
08-20-2014, 08:08 PM
US rescue mission in Syria to save Foley failed Barack Obama sent special operations troops to Syria this summer on a secret mission to rescue American hostages, including journalist James Foley, held by Islamic State group extremists, but they did not find them.

http://news.yahoo.com/officials-us-rescue-mission-syria-failed-223712306.html

rezznor
08-20-2014, 11:24 PM
U.S. special operations units were sent into Syria this summer to rescue American journalist James Foley and other hostages held by Islamic militants, a U.S. official told CNN.
Several dozen troops flew in by helicopters but couldn't find the hostages, including Foley -- whose grisly execution was captured on video and released this week by ISIS, the terror group that refers to itself as the Islamic State.
"Unfortunately, the mission was not successful because the hostages were not present at the targeted location," Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby said on Wednesday.
It's the latest revelation about Foley's final days in the hands of ISIS -- which taunted his family in an e-mail a week ago, saying he would be killed.
"The message was vitriolic and filled with rage against the United States. It was deadly serious," said Philip Balboni, CEO of the online publication GlobalPost, which employed Foley.

imdaman99
08-21-2014, 02:09 AM
As a Muslim, I'm all for the US shitting on IS.

Uneducated people are the norm due to poverty and this leads to blindly following false leaders but Islam is a religion of peace. Don't believe the out of context words people are quoting from the Quran. Although I'm pretty sure OTC has its mind made up judging by the horde of anti Islamic threads. I won't lose any sleep over it.

tomtucker
08-21-2014, 02:15 AM
The sad part is the do-gooders and people who want to sit on the fence are the reason why these aggressive tactics are working.

The radicalism will consume and force other muslims to conform and make non-muslims conform or die.

You cannot take the "not all Muslims are like that" approach. The weaker ones or the ones who are peaceful will be left with no choice but to join them. The propaganda they are instilling in their children and across the world is already working, this can be stopped now, but it has to be swift and direct.

Right above us we have the largest Muslim nation in the world. They have already committed terrorist attacks on Australians and there will be more in the future I have no doubt.

I will bear arms and fight for my family if they decide to come here. I do not trust muslims one bit.

As for James Foley, that poor guy must of went through hell. Such a weak and sickening act. I couldn't imagine how his family must feel watching that happen...
truth

poido123
08-21-2014, 02:19 AM
As a Muslim, I'm all for the US shitting on IS.

Uneducated people are the norm due to poverty and this leads to blindly following false leaders but Islam is a religion of peace. Don't believe the out of context words people are quoting from the Quran. Although I'm pretty sure OTC has its mind made up judging by the horde of anti Islamic threads. I won't lose any sleep over it.


You too will join the cause, once the shit hits the fan.

Do I think you will support America and its allies in a major conflict? Or will you conform to stronger Muslims who will force you to decide what side you take...

russwest0
08-21-2014, 02:38 AM
I personally don't give a shit about any foriegn countries and their problems and shit.

Yeah, I saw the video and felt awful for the guy like the rest of you guys, but the only reason they are directing the hate towards us is because we put a massive target on our backs by trying to impose our will every where by putting up military bases all over the world and all of that shit.

We need to go to non interventionism ASAP. We may make some new enemies and lose some "allies" in the processes, but thats okay, it's like shedding a friend that was just a moocher.

LJJ
08-24-2014, 09:11 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/world/rapper-identified-as-james-foleys-executioner-reports-20140824-107w1i.html

So the killer is allegedly Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary.
http://i.imgur.com/x5XGgpx.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT1YDIV4lGE

Aspiring rapper. Grew up in a million dollar home in London, son of an Al Qaeda lieutenant, acolyte of Anjem Choudary. You can't make this shit up.

Nick Young
08-24-2014, 09:26 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/world/rapper-identified-as-james-foleys-executioner-reports-20140824-107w1i.html

So the killer is allegedly Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary.
http://i.imgur.com/x5XGgpx.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT1YDIV4lGE

Aspiring rapper. Grew up in a million dollar home in London, son of an Al Qaeda lieutenant, acolyte of Anjem Choudary. You can't make this shit up.
why would you leave London to go rot in Iraq with a bunch of psychos:facepalm

JohnFreeman
08-24-2014, 09:56 AM
A lot of fake talk surrounding the video.

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 10:36 AM
The biggest problem is left wing pυssies. They pretend that they're about "equality" but they're not by any stretch. They're all about identity politics. That's all. They're more likely to side with ISIS than with a Christian who simply doesn't want to pay for his employees condoms.

The same people who on one hand will protest a restaurant that doesn't support gay marriage, on the other hand will side with people would would publicly execute gays in the streets. They have no principles whatsoever. They don't care about any idea. Only which group of people the idea comes from.

Nick Young
08-24-2014, 10:40 AM
Left wing is becoming very fascist-the very people they claim to hate.

They are also always crying out for artistic censorship these days of any art they deem 'misogynistic' and 'objectifying' which is basically any drawing or music video with an attractive woman in it. They also usually cry out for the censorship of any piece of art that supports an opinion they disagree with. Political correctness running wild.

I thought liberals were supposed to be accepting of different ideas and points of view.

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 10:54 AM
Left wing is become very fascist-the very people they claim to hate.

They are also always crying out for artistic censorship these days of any art they deem 'misogynistic' and 'objectifying' which is basically any drawing or music video with an attractive woman in it. They also usually cry out for the censorship of any piece of art that supports an opinion they disagree with. Political correctness running wild.

I thought liberals were supposed to be accepting of different ideas and points of view.
They aren't. They're all about what they deem appropriate depending on group identity. Classic Karl Marx.

Left wing ideology in short......

"This ethnic group is allowed to do this, this religious group isn't allowed to do this, this group isn't allowed to say this about the other group, but the other group is allowed to say it about this group" and so on and so on.

They have ZERO interest in equality as they claim. They're all about identity politics.

pauk
08-24-2014, 11:27 AM
A couple of camel riding psychos in flip-flops & cameras spreading fear & anger in America again and again blaming the 2nd biggest religion on earth.... a religion that has no support whatsoever for this kindof conduct & muslims who couldnt care less about those psychos and who have no association or support for their NON-MUSLIM deeds (especially not when they kill muslims aswell for fun).... big news & epic americans, **** yah, lets go to war brahz, this is WW3, if we do nothing we all die, 'MURICA!!! kill em all! MDK! Judgement day! Zombie muslim apocalypse!

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 11:46 AM
A couple of camel riding psychos in flip-flops & cameras spreading fear & anger in America again and again blaming the 2nd biggest religion on earth.... a religion that has no support whatsoever for this kindof conduct & muslims who couldnt care less about those psychos and who have no association or support for their NON-MUSLIM deeds (especially not when they kill muslims aswell for fun).... big news & epic americans, **** yah, lets go to war brahz, this is WW3, if we do nothing we all die, 'MURICA!!! kill em all! MDK! Judgement day! Zombie muslim apocalypse!
Yes, it's all made up. There's no issue of islamic motivated terror. ISIS is the one and only example. An anomaly.

pauk
08-24-2014, 11:47 AM
Barack Hussein Obama has muslim blood, his Father was Muslim, he is running USA, its the end of the world! :biggums:

Trollsmasher
08-24-2014, 11:52 AM
Left wing is become very fascist-the very people they claim to hate.

They are also always crying out for artistic censorship these days of any art they deem 'misogynistic' and 'objectifying' which is basically any drawing or music video with an attractive woman in it. They also usually cry out for the censorship of any piece of art that supports an opinion they disagree with. Political correctness running wild.

I thought liberals were supposed to be accepting of different ideas and points of view.
well, that's what their postmodern discourse is all about, feelz before realz, logic not allowed:lol

Nick Young
08-24-2014, 11:55 AM
A couple of camel riding psychos in flip-flops & cameras spreading fear & anger in America again and again blaming the 2nd biggest religion on earth.... a religion that has no support whatsoever for this kindof conduct & muslims who couldnt care less about those psychos and who have no association or support for their NON-MUSLIM deeds (especially not when they kill muslims aswell for fun).... big news & epic americans, **** yah, lets go to war brahz, this is WW3, if we do nothing we all die, 'MURICA!!! kill em all! MDK! Judgement day! Zombie muslim apocalypse!
Have you actually been to any of these middle eastern countries? You have zero idea what it's actually like, and how the people there think. You are ignorant as hell.

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 12:00 PM
Barack Hussein Obama has muslim blood, his Father was Muslim, he is running USA, its the end of the world! :biggums:
Islam = ideology, not biology

Godzuki
08-24-2014, 12:32 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/world/rapper-identified-as-james-foleys-executioner-reports-20140824-107w1i.html

So the killer is allegedly Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary.
http://i.imgur.com/x5XGgpx.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT1YDIV4lGE

Aspiring rapper. Grew up in a million dollar home in London, son of an Al Qaeda lieutenant, acolyte of Anjem Choudary. You can't make this shit up.


why does the UK seem to have such a extremist muslim youth movement?

Trollsmasher
08-24-2014, 12:34 PM
why does the UK seem to have such a extremist muslim youth movement?
closed off, non-integrated communities with radical leaders

MadeFromDust
08-24-2014, 01:05 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/world/rapper-identified-as-james-foleys-executioner-reports-20140824-107w1i.html

So the killer is allegedly Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary.
http://i.imgur.com/x5XGgpx.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT1YDIV4lGE

Aspiring rapper. Grew up in a million dollar home in London, son of an Al Qaeda lieutenant, acolyte of Anjem Choudary. You can't make this shit up.
Marked for death, just like this poor psycho
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NHHFMT52p1I/Ul3AXJBMZoI/AAAAAAAAK_g/Q9rrbM2x9tg/w600-h255-no/Screwface+-+Marked+for+Death.jpg

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 01:55 PM
closed off, non-integrated communities with radical leaders
Because the left wing in Britain wants to destroy British identity. In the UK, people will look at you cross eyed if you even mention the existence of ethnic Brits. They'll spew out all kinds of nonsensical rhetoric as to why there is no such thing as British people. They act as if the British Isles were empty islands that people just discovered a couple hundred years ago. The ones that do acknowledge that there were a native British people will claim that they've all mysteriously disappeared off the face of the earth, despite all genetic evidence saying otherwise.

It's not an accident. They want Britain's identity erased and the British people replaced by a multicultural society because they know it breeds conflict. The only solution to that conflict is centralized government power to make everybody's decisions for them and decide what everybody is and isn't allowed to do.

It's no coincidence that all the people who have put such policies in place (Labour, E.U.) all have Marxist/Communist backgrounds.

People think it sounds like wild exaggeration, but the UK is on it's way to being what Yugoslavia was 2 decades ago.

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 02:03 PM
why would you leave London to go rot in Iraq with a bunch of psychos:facepalm
honest way more respect for him than Abu Rumaysah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKKeAV_Rczs&list=UUNye-wNBqNL5ZzHSJj3l8Bg

Abu Rumaysah lives in england and worships the islamic state and basically lionizes and excuses everything the ISIS does and critiques the west. at least the people going to the Islamic state are not fake cowards.

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 02:08 PM
honest way more respect for him than Abu Rumaysah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKKeAV_Rczs&list=UUNye-wNBqNL5ZzHSJj3l8Bg

Abu Rumaysah lives in england and worships the islamic state and basically lionizes and excuses everything the ISIS does and critiques the west. at least the people going to the Islamic state are not fake cowards.
Sorry buddy, but I'll respect the guy that just talks stupidity more than the blood thirsty murderous terrorist who is slaughtering innocent people all for the sake of a book with such brilliant teachings as the earth being flat and flying human-headed horses.

Trollsmasher
08-24-2014, 02:20 PM
Because the left wing in Britain wants to destroy British identity. In the UK, people will look at you cross eyed if you even mention the existence of ethnic Brits. They'll spew out all kinds of nonsensical rhetoric as to why there is no such thing as British people. They act as if the British Isles were empty islands that people just discovered a couple hundred years ago. The ones that do acknowledge that there were a native British people will claim that they've all mysteriously disappeared off the face of the earth, despite all genetic evidence saying otherwise.

It's not an accident. They want Britain's identity erased and the British people replaced by a multicultural society because they know it breeds conflict. The only solution to that conflict is centralized government power to make everybody's decisions for them and decide what everybody is and isn't allowed to do.

It's no coincidence that all the people who have put such policies in place (Labour, E.U.) all have Marxist/Communist backgrounds.

People think it sounds like wild exaggeration, but the UK is on it's way to being what Yugoslavia was 2 decades ago.
it's not just GB, it's the whole "White world"

it goes all the way back to Frankfurt school

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 02:23 PM
Sorry buddy, but I'll respect the guy that just talks stupidity more than the blood thirsty murderous terrorist who is slaughtering innocent people all for the sake of a book with such brilliant teachings as the earth being flat and flying human-headed horses.
At least the guy that goes to the islamic state is taking a risk. Abu Rumaysah is just an annoying douche beating up on non-muslims in england he and his gang catches alone at night.

The guy that went to the islamic state will probably die one way or the other. But at least he isnt a coward, douchebag

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 02:28 PM
At least the guy that goes to the islamic state is taking a risk. Abu Rumaysah is just an annoying douche beating up on non-muslims in england he and his gang catches alone at night.

The guy that went to the islamic state will probably die one way or the other. But at least he isnt a coward, douchebag
Coward >>>>>>>>>> murderer

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 02:31 PM
it's not just GB, it's the whole "White world"

it goes all the way back to Frankfurt school
It's not a "white" thing. That's got nothing to do with anything. Not remotely about skin color.

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 02:31 PM
Coward >>>>>>>>>> murderer
dont disagree with that, but there is something i respect about the guys that actually go to the islamic state rather than just talk about it.

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 02:33 PM
dont disagree with that, but there is something i respect about the guys that actually go to the islamic state rather than just talk about it.
You respect a guy that actually murders and commits terror than a guy who just talks?

I respect the one that doesn't slaughter people more.

LJJ
08-24-2014, 02:39 PM
At least the guy that goes to the islamic state is taking a risk. Abu Rumaysah is just an annoying douche beating up on non-muslims in england he and his gang catches alone at night.

The guy that went to the islamic state will probably die one way or the other. But at least he isnt a coward, douchebag


That's like saying you respect Ted Bundy for at least taking the risk.

These IS guys go out there and primarily prey on the weak. I wonder how many hogtied, unarmed men Abdel has killed so far. I wonder how many 10 year old girls he has raped so far. That's some very brave shit right there. While conceiling his identity of course.

dude77
08-24-2014, 02:45 PM
lol there's absolutely no fkn reason imaginable to 'respect' any of these IS soldiers .. they're going around executing random people on the highway .. beheading random civilians .. beheading small children .. taking random civilian women as slaves .. come on dude

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2014, 02:49 PM
dont disagree with that, but there is something i respect about the guys that actually go to the islamic state rather than just talk about it.


There's something I respect about people who don't respect terrorist shitstains like the guy you respect.

zoom17
08-24-2014, 02:58 PM
http://i.gyazo.com/f6fdfd6dbaa890990a066cf1ba3ba4a3.png

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 03:17 PM
There's something I respect about people who don't respect terrorist shitstains like the guy you respect.
only in comparison to people like Abu Rumaysah who worship them and talk about how badly they want to join ISIS but dont. Abu Rumaysah believes in everything the guys chopping off heads believe in. the only difference is he doesnt want to risk a hellfire missile killing him. Abu Rumaysah has many videos online, listen to what he says. than realize that his supposed dream of being able to fight for an islamic caliphate has come true, but his ass is still in england.

Dont mean in absolute terms. If you have followed any of my posting you would know how anti religion I am, especially religions like islam who currently have a sizable minority that wishes to violently spread it.

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 03:20 PM
You respect a guy that actually murders and commits terror than a guy who just talks?

I respect the one that doesn't slaughter people more.
Abu Rumaysah does more than talk. he organizes gangs to beat people up in england. and hides behind the liberal laws of england.

The guys that actually go over to ISIS differ from Abu Rumaysah in only 1 way. they are willing to die for their hateful cause, while Abu Rumaysah is too scared to actually die for islamic domination of the world.

so yes i respect the people that actually go over to isis more than the people that worship isis but would never actually fight for isis

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 03:32 PM
That's like saying you respect Ted Bundy for at least taking the risk.

These IS guys go out there and primarily prey on the weak. I wonder how many hogtied, unarmed men Abdel has killed so far. I wonder how many 10 year old girls he has raped so far. That's some very brave shit right there. While conceiling his identity of course.
perhaps i expressed myself poorly, I dont mean i respect IS fighters in absolute terms.

I respect them more than people like Abu Rumaysah who believe in everything they do. Eg. want islam to dominate the world, but are too scared to actually gamble their life on their supposed dream.

Abu Rumaysah defends every single action of the IS. he has talked his whole life about the chance to fight for an islamic caliphate. now in 2014 when that chance exists, he decides to stay in england and organize gangs to attack scantly clad women.

As horrible as IS fighters are, they at least are doing what they said they would do given a chance to fight for islam, they will probably die.

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 03:40 PM
lol there's absolutely no fkn reason imaginable to 'respect' any of these IS soldiers .. they're going around executing random people on the highway .. beheading random civilians .. beheading small children .. taking random civilian women as slaves .. come on dude
Agree with everything.

Still respect them more than muslim extremists like Abu Rumaysah. Abu Rumaysah defends every action of the Islamic state. He believes the islamic state is the most moral government in the world. He is a sunni muslim supremacist. He has talked openly about how he wishes he could fight for islam, and get rid of westerners who have raped the middle east (not a totally irrational gripe), but come 2014, when there is an actual islamic caliphate to fight for, his ass is still in england organizing gangs to beat up on scantly clad women. His ass is still in england secretly running sharia courts, etc.

Whats stopping him from actually going to the islamic state? IMo its fear of western air strikes, capture by shia militias, etc.

Its the difference between an islamic cleric that convinces some kid to strap on a bomb vest and blow himself up and the kid that actually does it. Both are terrible people, but at least the kid isn't a coward.

eliteballer
08-24-2014, 04:41 PM
The US isn't going to get involved on the ground beyond advisors over one man when 200,000 people have been killed in the Syrian war, and Assad has committed tons of war crimes and atrocities. It's going to take ISIS actually attacking the US government/military/large quantities of US civilians.

zoom17
08-24-2014, 04:44 PM
The US isn't going to get involved on the ground beyond advisors over one man when 200,000 people have been killed in the Syrian war, and Assad has committed tons of war crimes and atrocities. It's going to take ISIS actually attacking the US government/military/large quantities of US civilians.

:rolleyes: Assad has killed thousand upon thousands of terrorists the US failed to overthrow him. There now stuck between him or ISIS and most of the world would rather have Assad in power. This region needs dictators like Assad and Saddam to keep islamist in check.Democracy doesn't work in the middle east point blank period.

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 04:44 PM
The US isn't going to get involved on the ground beyond advisors over one man when 200,000 people have been killed in the Syrian war, and Assad has committed tons of war crimes and atrocities. It's going to take ISIS actually attacking the US government/military/large quantities of US civilians.
If ISIS gets anywhere close to the Saudi Arabia border, you better believe the US will get really serious really fυcking fast.

eliteballer
08-24-2014, 04:54 PM
That would only happen if ISIS had taken over Syria and Iraq. Right now they are fighting on multiple fronts. Assad, the Syrian Rebels, Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, and the Iraqi government. Got their hands full.

If the world saw they were making that kind of progress I'm pretty sure you'd se a coalition go in far before Saudi was threatened.

They might already have some forces near the border, as a month or so ago a ton of Iraqi forces near the border deserted and the Saudis had to reinforce their own side of the border.

NumberSix
08-24-2014, 04:58 PM
That would only happen if ISIS had taken over Syria and Iraq. Right now they are fighting on multiple fronts. Assad, the Syrian Rebels, Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, and the Iraqi government. Got their hands full.

If the world saw they were making that kind of progress I'm pretty sure you'd se a coalition go in far before Saudi was threatened.

They might already have some forces near the border, as a month or so ago a ton of Iraqi forces near the border deserted and the Saudis had to reinforce their own side of the border.
Saudi Arabia is probably the most incompetent country on earth. 10 guys with steak knives could take over the entire country in a week.

eliteballer
08-24-2014, 06:28 PM
Saudi Arabia is probably the most incompetent country on earth. 10 guys with steak knives could take over the entire country in a week.

Nah, that's your irrational dislike of arabs/muslims talking. Relatively speaking they have a decent military and security apparatus. Have to in that region.

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 07:22 PM
Nah, that's your irrational dislike of arabs/muslims talking. Relatively speaking they have a decent military and security apparatus. Have to in that region.
No they have advanced weaponry but their military is very incompetent. They have created a military with an emphasis not on being strong, but being loyal to the house of saud. Male members of the House of saud (saudi arabia's ruling families) dominate the military. Most of them spoiled rich princes. Eg. imagine justin bieber as a US military commander

When saddam invaded kuwait, the saud family was in a panic. despite all of the advanced weapons they had they knew saddam would have rolled over them.

The house of saud asked for the unthinkable, non-muslim troops to move into saudi arabia to defend them. Of course the US complied. Saudi arabia is the most important country in the middle east to the United states, more important than israel.

In a lot of muslim's eyes the act of asking for troops from a mostly christian country to move into saudi arabia was unforgivable.

Saudi's were mad. they were like, "first we buy all of these weapons from the US, then we pay the US to fight our wars for us"

If ISIS attacks saudi arabia it will be a disaster. The US will have to intervene. and it will look like the US has control of mecca and medina, and is preventing an islamic caliph from controlling those areas.

Hopefully ISIS attacks Iran

Edit the exact same problems that plagued maliki's army plagues the saudi army. its an army designed to be loyal rather than powerful. its meant to crush internal revolt rather than deal with an invading force. maliki's army had advanced weapons too. we left iraq a lot of nice eq. the saud family purposefully prevents the rise of competent military leaders. there is too much of a risk that a general may one day think, why shouldn't I be in charge, and initiate a coup.

eliteballer
08-24-2014, 07:28 PM
No they have advanced weaponry but their military is very incompetent. They have created a military with an emphasis not on being strong, but being loyal to the house of saud. Male members of the House of saud (saudi arabia's ruling families) dominate the military.

When saddam invaded kuwait, the saud family was in a panic. despite all of the advanced weapons they had they knew saddam would have rolled over them.

The house of saud asked for the unthinkable, non-muslim troops to move into saudi arabia to defend them. Of course the US complied. Saudi arabia is the most important country in the middle east to the United states, more important than israel.

In a lot of muslim's eyes the act of asking for troops from a mostly christian country to move into saudi arabia was unforgivable.

Saudi's were mad. they were like, "first we buy all of these weapons from the US, then we pay the US to fight our wars for us"

If ISIS attacks saudi arabia it will be a disaster. The US will have to intervene. and it will look like the US has control of mecca and medina, and is preventing an islamic caliph from controlling those areas.

Hopefully ISIS attacks Iran

That was almost 25 years ago, they have some pretty good formations now. They lead the penninsula shield force.

MavsSuperFan
08-24-2014, 07:54 PM
That was almost 25 years ago, they have some pretty good formations now. They lead the penninsula shield force.
still the same core problem. Imagine you're the king of saudi arabia

What are you more concerned with a foreign invader? or an uprising against you autocratic rule. There is no difference from a absolute monarch and a dictator. Both men rule via the ability to intimidate their countrymen.

Saudi arabia amplifies the problem by stationing a lot of the male members of their family in command positions throughout the military. Its military doesnt reward competency, it rewards being part of the house of saud or by being a kiss ass. Its military commanders are given promotions based on being members of the house of saud or displaying loyalty to the house of saud.

the first gulf war proved that saudi arabia realistically never has to worry about foreign invasion. The united states is not about to allow a major oil supplier to be conquered and thus possibly losing that oil.

pauk
08-24-2014, 08:03 PM
Numbersix, no matter how you twist and turn it, there will always be psychos...... in a religious free world or not........ Look i personally dislike religion, i was even raised from muslim parents in Bosnia (not big practitioners tho), religion is extremly illogical, irrational and can cause segregation, i think it all limits & subordinates us all from human augmentation in every sense..... i am agnostic (still open minded to any proof), i have nothing against any practitioners.... BUT, my previous posts even though satirical / ironic my point is that you (and people who think like you) refuse to comprehend that none of these "extremists/terrorists" ever were sane human beings & neither do they represent their specific religions, ever, authentically they are completely doing the opposite of what in this case Islam persuades, ISIS are the biggest non-muslims ever who will burn in hell.... they are people with a screw loose and would act in exact way but in different context/purpose (be murderers, criminals, etc) IF they had no religion.....

Even though there is lots of wrong with religion there is nothing wrong with religion in that kindof sense you think.... its a HUMAN that causes violence & that kindof conduct.... Does an ideology/sect/group/whatever tell you its OK to kill somebody? Well, if you didnt have a genetically screw loose you would be a sane homo sapiens enough to comprehend that doesnt make sense and do everything in your might to avoid it anyways.......

It takes a special kindof person to coldbloodely kill a human being or do any of these awful things (whatever the freaking reason is).... its a special gene.... a screw loose kindof gene..... and whatever your childbirth ideology just so happen to be or not be at all.... that gene is there always, ready to initiate, its inevitable....

Godzuki
08-24-2014, 10:55 PM
Numbersix, no matter how you twist and turn it, there will always be psychos...... in a religious free world or not........ Look i personally dislike religion, i was even raised from muslim parents in Bosnia (not big practitioners tho), religion is extremly illogical, irrational and can cause segregation, i think it all limits & subordinates us all from human augmentation in every sense..... i am agnostic (still open minded to any proof), i have nothing against any practitioners.... BUT, my previous posts even though satirical / ironic my point is that you (and people who think like you) refuse to comprehend that none of these "extremists/terrorists" ever were sane human beings & neither do they represent their specific religions, ever, authentically they are completely doing the opposite of what in this case Islam persuades, ISIS are the biggest non-muslims ever who will burn in hell.... they are people with a screw loose and would act in exact way but in different context/purpose (be murderers, criminals, etc) IF they had no religion.....

Even though there is lots of wrong with religion there is nothing wrong with religion in that kindof sense you think.... its a HUMAN that causes violence & that kindof conduct.... Does an ideology/sect/group/whatever tell you its OK to kill somebody? Well, if you didnt have a genetically screw loose you would be a sane homo sapiens enough to comprehend that doesnt make sense and do everything in your might to avoid it anyways.......

It takes a special kindof person to coldbloodely kill a human being or do any of these awful things (whatever the freaking reason is).... its a special gene.... a screw loose kindof gene..... and whatever your childbirth ideology just so happen to be or not be at all.... that gene is there always, ready to initiate, its inevitable....


problem is you can't use that as a scapegoat when no religion today is nearly as extreme as the muslim one. Its all relative to the excuses u want to make, and in that respect, nothing comes close to the extremism of muslims today, nothing....you can't pretend to say they're all equally bad with extremists when again christian extremists are nowhere near the issue of muslim extremists of today. that IS a problem with the religion itself of today.

you would have a point IF christianity had similar extremes as a issue but you have to go very far back in history to make that parallel.

people just can't be real these days, and these things are so obvious it kills me it has to be explained. which is not to say there aren't peaceful and good muslims, but the muslim religion has MAJOR issues these days...own up.

fpliii
08-24-2014, 11:22 PM
Numbersix, no matter how you twist and turn it, there will always be psychos...... in a religious free world or not........ Look i personally dislike religion, i was even raised from muslim parents in Bosnia (not big practitioners tho), religion is extremly illogical, irrational and can cause segregation, i think it all limits & subordinates us all from human augmentation in every sense..... i am agnostic (still open minded to any proof), i have nothing against any practitioners.... BUT, my previous posts even though satirical / ironic my point is that you (and people who think like you) refuse to comprehend that none of these "extremists/terrorists" ever were sane human beings & neither do they represent their specific religions, ever, authentically they are completely doing the opposite of what in this case Islam persuades, ISIS are the biggest non-muslims ever who will burn in hell.... they are people with a screw loose and would act in exact way but in different context/purpose (be murderers, criminals, etc) IF they had no religion.....

Even though there is lots of wrong with religion there is nothing wrong with religion in that kindof sense you think.... its a HUMAN that causes violence & that kindof conduct.... Does an ideology/sect/group/whatever tell you its OK to kill somebody? Well, if you didnt have a genetically screw loose you would be a sane homo sapiens enough to comprehend that doesnt make sense and do everything in your might to avoid it anyways.......

It takes a special kindof person to coldbloodely kill a human being or do any of these awful things (whatever the freaking reason is).... its a special gene.... a screw loose kindof gene..... and whatever your childbirth ideology just so happen to be or not be at all.... that gene is there always, ready to initiate, its inevitable....
:applause: Great post, but indoctrination/brainwashing is very real. Obviously if these individuals keep committing crimes, there will be consequences (i.e. eradication by foreign militaries), but somebody had to plant the seed when they were very young for the most part (given though, that some might be older converts, who were down on their luck and were brought in later in life).

Riley Martin
09-02-2014, 01:52 PM
Second video shows ISIS beheading of US journalist Steven Sotloff (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/02/isis-video-steven-sotloff-beheading)

InfiniteBaskets
09-02-2014, 03:25 PM
At the end of the second video another "American" is shown, likely to be the next target.

So what's the plan from the US government now? You gonna keep drone bombing these guys, picking them off 10/15 at a time from an army of up to possibly 10,000? While they kill random US civilians every few weeks?