Vassilis Spanoulis' Basketball-Reference.com European Stats

[Euroleague]

The CLOWN mega colossal trolls keep hounding me here day and night to "prove that Spanoulis is among the all time leaders in Europe in efficiency stats" whether that be in shooting, scoring, efficiency whatever.....

they keep saying I am "lying" when I claim he is.

Anyway, I can't find a site that lists all of the actual types of stats I am talking about in terms of all time leaders. There are sites that list them for individual seasons, but not for career leader boards.

Anyway, I found a site that lists some of Spanoulis' career leader board stats.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/vassilis-spanoulis-1.html


This should pretty much prove I am NOT lying and should once and for all tell all the trolls to STFU.

Anyone here can try to plug in any so-called "Euro GOAT" in place of Spanoulis that the same trolls here always claim was "the greatest of all time", and "dominated and destroyed Europe"........and they will find that they do not have close to the same impact.

And this is is not all of the stats, because for instance, Spanoulis is the career leader in Euroleague in points scored per shot attempt. Something that was mentioned here, and KG215 went freaking nuts, and threw a gigantic hissy fit over it.

But as can be seen here, Spanoulis is way up in the year by year and career leaders of all time in Europe for most efficient shooter ever. And yet, the MEGA TROLLS here were trying to claim he was, "wildly inefficient as a shooter", and that this was "why Van Gundy benched him", and "was proof why he can't play in the NBA".

And they were NOT talking about his time in the NBA. They were using his stats in Europe to make these claims.

Again, proof right here, that statistically, Spanoulis is not only in the all time leaders in Europe, but that he is one of the most EFFICIENT scorers and shooters ever.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/vassilis-spanoulis-1.html


Jeff van Grumpy and the ISH's colossal clown mega trolls exposed yet again.

[SpanishACB]

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[Milbuck]

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[Euroleague]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/juan-carlos-navarro-1.html

What is your point? He isn't at the very top in every single category he should be in for his position like Spanoulis is.

And he played more years and is older. His career is basically ending...Spanoulis is at his prime now.

Same with Diamantidis.

They are at the career leaders, but they have the same thing like being that high in points, assists etc in every league like Spanoulis and at that age and being that efficient as a scorer.

So clearly those stats show Spanoulis is most efficient and dominant offensive player in Europe.

It shows Diamantidis likes to stuff a stat sheet and Navarro likes to take a lot of 3s.

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[MP.Trey]

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He really set himself up for that. :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

why does OP think anyone cares about 3rd world basketball players who are good against the left over competition that didnt make the nba


i mean i know theres some guys over there that are better than some guys over here. but only the absolute best of the best of the best. theyre better than the absolute worst players. they go over seas because they can make more money and get more playing time to extend their careers

but what i dont understand is why OP thinks anyone gives a damn. i mean has there ever been a single euro legend that has come into the nba and had more success here than they had over there.

candice parkers brother was the 5th or 6th best player on the raptors back when they sucked donkey balls and he goes to euroleague and becomes a legend

i have yet to hear an explination for this

i usually stay out of these threads because i dont give 2 shits. but if i hear the name spanoulis one more time i'm gonna start trolling him the **** out. then itel get ugly

dude has absolutely no career to speak of in the nba yet.

he tried to play with the big boys and failed miserably



sorry man but your league isnt much better than the cfl is compared to the nfl

[Derka]

Wow. His stats in Europe. Almost like bragging about the Gold medal you won at the Special Olympics.

Good for him!

[kennethgriffin]

Wow. His stats in Europe. Almost like bragging about the Gold medal you won at the Special Olympics.

Good for him!

theyre not even great stats.

a bunch of 12ppg/4apg seasons..

put kobe in euroleague from start to finish and it would be like wilt chamberlain in the 60's

[Shade8780]

Ming 7_6 :bowdown:

[Euroleague]

why does OP think anyone cares about 3rd world basketball players who are good against the left over competition that didnt make the nba


i mean i know theres some guys over there that are better than some guys over here. but only the absolute best of the best of the best. theyre better than the absolute worst players. they go over seas because they can make more money and get more playing time to extend their careers

but what i dont understand is why OP thinks anyone gives a damn. i mean has there ever been a single euro legend that has come into the nba and had more success here than they had over there.

candice parkers brother was the 5th or 6th best player on the raptors back when they sucked donkey balls and he goes to euroleague and becomes a legend

i have yet to hear an explination for this

i usually stay out of these threads because i dont give 2 shits. but if i hear the name spanoulis one more time i'm gonna start trolling him the **** out. then itel get ugly

dude has absolutely no career to speak of in the nba yet.

he tried to play with the big boys and failed miserably



sorry man but your league isnt much better than the cfl is compared to the nfl

In this forum, dozens of clowns claim on a daily basis that he is one of the worst players in Europe statistically and that he is one of the worst shooters and scorers in Europe statistically, and that he has one of the worst assist rates in Europe of any guard statistically.

If you question that, you get called a liar, a troll, and "insane".

As you can see, the actual facts are that statistically, he is probably the best of all time in Europe in all of those categories.

This is all part of these NBA fan trolling myths and legends that people like to start and create. And it's all part of this kind of nonsense BS that Jeff van Grumpy made up and lied about in order to sabotage his NBA career.

The best offensive weapon in the history of the Euroleague CANNOT be "not good enough to play in the NBA", no matter what that idiot coach claimed.

[Euroleague]

theyre not even great stats.

a bunch of 12ppg/4apg seasons..

put kobe in euroleague from start to finish and it would be like wilt chamberlain in the 60's

It's 14 and 4 in Europe and 18 and 5 per 36 minutes in Europe you freaking idiot.

How many times has this been explained to you morons here? Like 10,000 times already?

EVERY SINGLE NBA point guard that is starting now in the NBA that played in Europe could have only dreamed in their wildest imagination of those kind of numbers in Europe.

Guys that average 20 and 8 in the NBA could probably not even come close to such numbers like that.

[kennethgriffin]

In this forum, dozens of clowns claim on a daily basis that he is one of the worst players in Europe statistically and that he is one of the worst shooters and scorers in Europe statistically, and that he has one of the worst assist rates in Europe of any guard statistically.

If you question that, you get called a liar, a troll, and "insane".

As you can see, the actual facts are that statistically, he is probably the best of all time in Europe in all of those categories.

This is all part of these NBA fan trolling myths and legends that people like to start and create. And it's all part of this kind of nonsense BS that Jeff van Grumpy made up and lied about in order to sabotage his NBA career.

The best offensive weapon in the history of the Euroleague CANNOT be "not good enough to play in the NBA", no matter what that idiot coach claimed.

who the **** says this? and if they are saying this why the **** do they care

i think theyre just trolling you

but regardless... i dunno if his stats are good compared to top euro ballers

but from what i saw his 12ppg, 4apg averages arent all that amazing

i was expecting 20ppg, 10apg from the way youve been gushing over this guy

[outbreak]

theyre not even great stats.

a bunch of 12ppg/4apg seasons..

put kobe in euroleague from start to finish and it would be like wilt chamberlain in the 60's
Players generally score less there, euroleague will ignore that fact though when he says an nba player found euroleague harder if he scores less ppg there

[kennethgriffin]

It's 18 and 5 per 36 minutes in Europe you freaking idiot.

How many times has this been explained to you morons here? Like 10,000 times already?

EVERY SINGLE NBA point guard that is starting now in the NBA that played in Europe could have only dreamed in their wildest imagination of those kind of numbers in Europe.

thats still not amazing

and why are you so convinced that the best PG's in the nba cant average 12/4 over there against washed up bums and 2nd rate guys? most great pg's in the nba are putting up 20/7+ ( factually. not even just per 36min like span tha man

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[beastee]

Wow. His FG% is terrible and his PER 36 are so bad. How has anything been proven with this post?

[kennethgriffin]

sorry but if its 10 times harder to play in euroleague. and 12/4 or 14/4 or whatever you say it is compared to nba numbers is like scoring 30ppg and averaging 10apg

then why did he only average 2 points and got shat out of the nba in the only year he tried over here?


i'm sorry but


if chris paul quit the nba tomorrow. then signed with a euro club and only lasted one year over there averaging 2 points on 39% shooting. it would be pretty damaging wouldnt it?

[Euroleague]

who the **** says this? and if they are saying this why the **** do they care

i think theyre just trolling you

but regardless... i dunno if his stats are good compared to top euro ballers

but from what i saw his 12ppg, 4apg averages arent all that amazing

i was expecting 20ppg, 10apg from the way youve been gushing over this guy

You are a freaking idiot. There is not an NBA starting point guard from Europe that was getting more than 2-3 assists in Europe. Those are unbelievable numbers genius.

Before they came to the NBA......

Brandon Jennings 7/2 in Euroleague

Ty Lawson 7/2 in Euroleague

Dragic 8/3 in Euroleague

Calderon 9/2 in Euroleague

Rubio 7/4 in Euroleague

Beno Udrih 8/3 in Euroleague

I can go on and on and on but that should be enough to make the point.

And you are saying Spanoulis that AVERAGED 14/4 over a CAREER did bad?

[kennethgriffin]

You are a freaking idiot. There is not an NBA starting point guard from Europe that was getting more than 2-3 assists in Europe. Those are unbelievable numbers genius.

Ty Lawson 7/2 in Euroleague

Dragic 8/3 in Euroleague

Calderon 9/2 in Euroleague

Rubio 7/4 in Euroleague

I can go on and on and on but that should be enough to make the point.

do you start every single post with " you're or you are a freaking idiot"

youve said it like 4 or 5 times in just this thread because i'm confused as to why you think

euroleaue > nba

spanoulis > all nba players


considering the lack of hard evidence

all you have is biased opinionated 1 sided bullshit to explain yourself


oh well "14/4 in euroleague is better than any stats a PG can average in the nba"


says ****ing who? you?

the hard evidence is bums from the nba going over to euroleague and becoming legends

isnt candice parkers brother a god and multiple mvp/finals mvp or some shit over there?

explain that one

[Inferno]

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[beastee]

Also, with such subpar Per stats, if you compare Nicola Mirotic stat's it only proves the point that he was really great deserved all the accolades he got. His PER is Better than Spans in almost every category.

[Euroleague]

thats still not amazing

and why are you so convinced that the best PG's in the nba cant average 12/4 over there against washed up bums and 2nd rate guys? most great pg's in the nba are putting up 20/7+ ( factually. not even just per 36min like span tha man

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Because the Euroleague is a better league than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better defense than the NBA. Because the Euroleague is more physical than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better point guards than the NBA.

Because the Euroleague does not have the joke rules that the NBA has that make it easy for point guards to play.

Because you have to be somewhat halfway intelligent to play point guard in Euroleague.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Hate to admit this, because I have shitted on V-Span in the past because his regular season numbers were terrible, but I admit, I remember watching a lot of him in Rockets pre-season games, and the dude did have some talent. he did drive to the basket a lot of time against mediocre NBA talent off the bench that the coaches rarely ever play in the regular season.

[kennethgriffin]

You are a freaking idiot. There is not an NBA starting point guard from Europe that was getting more than 2-3 assists in Europe. Those are unbelievable numbers genius.

Before they came to the NBA......

Brandon Jennings 7/2 in Euroleague

Ty Lawson 7/2 in Euroleague

Dragic 8/3 in Euroleague

Calderon 9/2 in Euroleague

Rubio 7/4 in Euroleague

Beno Udrih 8/3 in Euroleague

I can go on and on and on but that should be enough to make the point.

And you are saying Spanoulis that AVERAGED 14/4 over a CAREER did bad?


most of those guys suck dick in the nba too.. i kinda like dragic though. but everyone else is useless. but how many years, what age were they and whats their per 36? shots per game, role on each team etc...


i'm sure theres more too it.

i mean euro league is more of a team game with different rules. people arent usually ball dominant pg's over there. i'm sure the stats suffer cause of the offensive system. so maybe 14 points is pretty good for a PG

but that doesnt change the fact that he sucked in the nba.

wouldnt his superior talent translate into a softer league that would showcase his skills even more?

what happened with the 2ppg season?


and i'l ask again. why is candice parkers brother your all time GOAT ?

[YouGotServed]

Because the Euroleague is a better league than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better defense than the NBA. Because the Euroleague is more physical than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better point guards than the NBA.

Because the Euroleague does not have the joke rules that the NBA has that make it easy for point guards to play.

Because you have to be somewhat halfway intelligent to play point guard in Euroleague.

Shut up, Ming 7_6

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[dr.hee]

Again, proof right here, that statistically, Spanoulis is not only in the all time leaders in Europe, but that he is one of the most EFFICIENT scorers and shooters ever.


Yeah, he's at #29 on this list of legends

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[Euroleague]

Wow. His FG% is terrible and his PER 36 are so bad. How has anything been proven with this post?


4th highest career true shooting percentage in Greek League. 28th highest career true shooting percentage in Euroleague.

29th highest career effective field goal percentage in Euroleague, and was 4th in Euroleague in effective field goal percentage last season.

Also has as I said before, the highest career points scored per shot attempt in Euroleague history, although that stat isn't covered here.

What this proves is that jackasses like you are not just trolls, you are also morons.

[Rooster]

Wow. His FG% is terrible and his PER 36 are so bad. How has anything been proven with this post?

When you talk about FG%. Scola shot a high powered efficiency 70% :oldlol: over there. Not bad for a finesse player.:confusedshrug:

[Euroleague]

Yeah, he's at #29 on this list of legends

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What is funny to you? I can look at almost any roster of any NBA team right now and post it here, and 3/4 of the players on the team are barely good enough to make a Eurocup team.

[kennethgriffin]

Because the Euroleague is a better league than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better defense than the NBA. Because the Euroleague is more physical than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better point guards than the NBA.

Because the Euroleague does not have the joke rules that the NBA has that make it easy for point guards to play.

Because you have to be somewhat halfway intelligent to play point guard in Euroleague.

its not though.

people world wide are exposed to the nba as the world leader in basketball. scouts go world wide recruiting the top talent. kids grow up dreaming of nba salaries and media attention. the best of the best come here

only a complete and utter fool would try and say any league is better than the nba. or any star in a 2nd rate league would dominate the nba. especially when they already tried to play in the nba and failed

your boy wasnt good enough

[B-hoop]

4th highest career true shooting percentage in Greek League. 28th highest career true shooting percentage in Euroleague.

29th highest career effective field goal percentage in Euroleague, and was 4th in Euroleague in effective field goal percentage last season.

Also has as I said before, the highest career points scored per shot attempt in Euroleague history, although that stat isn't covered here.

What this proves is that jackasses like you are not just trolls, you are also morons.

How does being 29th mean he is good? Anthony Parker has a higher eFG% than him. So Anthony Parker = GOAT in Euroleague?

[Euroleague]

sorry but if its 10 times harder to play in euroleague. and 12/4 or 14/4 or whatever you say it is compared to nba numbers is like scoring 30ppg and averaging 10apg

then why did he only average 2 points and got shat out of the nba in the only year he tried over here?


i'm sorry but


if chris paul quit the nba tomorrow. then signed with a euro club and only lasted one year over there averaging 2 points on 39% shooting. it would be pretty damaging wouldnt it?

Clearly, thinking for yourself is something you are incapable of. Sorry.

[Inferno]

Because the Euroleague is a better league than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better defense than the NBA. Because the Euroleague is more physical than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better point guards than the NBA.

Because the Euroleague does not have the joke rules that the NBA has that make it easy for point guards to play.

Because you have to be somewhat halfway intelligent to play point guard in Euroleague.

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[kennethgriffin]

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VASSILIS SPANOULIS

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just end your life already

[Rooster]

Yeah, he's at #29 on this list of legends

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So many American scrubs in the high list.:applause: :oldlol: Langdon and Batiste got cut from the woeful Clips and became legends over there.:oldlol:

[B-hoop]

Turnovers
2004-05 42 (2)
2005-06 62 (4)
2007-08 59 (4)
2008-09 68 (8)
2010-11 77 (1)
2010-11 68 (8)
2011-12 77 (1)
2011-12 71 (4)
2012-13 106 (1)
2012-13 85 (2)
2013-14 81 (3)
Career 538 (2)
Career 424 (1)

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[MiseryCityTexas]

Trajan Langdon and Will Solomon were absolute garbage in the NBA, and these the players BBall reference compare V-Span to?:oldlol:

[Milbuck]

Yeah, he's at #29 on this list of legends

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Another instance where NBA scrub Anthony Parker is head and shoulders better than the supposed "Euroleague GOAT" Spanoulis :roll: :roll:


Trajan Langdon? What the **** :oldlol:

[dr.hee]

Another instance where NBA scrub Anthony Parker is head and shoulders better than the supposed "Euroleague GOAT" Spanoulis :roll: :roll:


Trajan Langdon? What the **** :oldlol:

And there's more, look...

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[Rooster]

How does being 29th mean he is good? Anthony Parker has a higher eFG% than him. So Anthony Parker = GOAT in Euroleague?

Anthony Parker played 5 years of Euroleague

2x Euroleague MVP
1x Euroleague Final Four MVP
3 Euroleague Chmapionship
Named to All Decade team
Named to 35 Greatest Euroleague Players:oldlol: :roll:

[Euroleague]

do you start every single post with " you're or you are a freaking idiot"

youve said it like 4 or 5 times in just this thread because i'm confused as to why you think

euroleaue > nba

spanoulis > all nba players


considering the lack of hard evidence

all you have is biased opinionated 1 sided bullshit to explain yourself


oh well "14/4 in euroleague is better than any stats a PG can average in the nba"


says ****ing who? you?

the hard evidence is bums from the nba going over to euroleague and becoming legends

isnt candice parkers brother a god and multiple mvp/finals mvp or some shit over there?

explain that one

The hard evidence is that you are a moron. "Bums from the NBA becoming legends"......

Scalabrine is a legend in USA.

Also, there is no such thing as a "bum from USA" becoming a "legend in Europe". It's a myth that retards like you imagine in your fantasy land you call a brain.

Something you IMAGINE that is not true and never happened, isn't reality.

[kennethgriffin]

euroleague = "spanoulis didnt get enough playing time in the nba




PER 36 min

11.3ppg, 3.7apg, 2.9rpg, 31.9%fg's, 17.2% threes

31 games played












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[kennethgriffin]

The hard evidence is that you are a moron. "Bums from the NBA becoming legends"......

Scalabrine is a legend in USA.

Also, there is no such thing as a "bum from USA" becoming a "legend in Europe". It's a myth that retards like you imagine in your fantasy land you call a brain.

Something you IMAGINE that is not true and never happened, isn't reality.


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[MiseryCityTexas]

V-Span probably would have actually been a solid NBA role player if JVG woulda actually played him.Van Gundy was basically giving Spanoulis that Terrence Williams treatment on the bench.

[kennethgriffin]

V-Span probably would have actually been a solid NBA role player if JVG woulda actually played him.Van Gundy was basically giving Spanoulis that Terrence Williams treatment on the bench.

31% fg's = SOLID!!!!!!!!

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[Euroleague]

Also, with such subpar Per stats, if you compare Nicola Mirotic stat's it only proves the point that he was really great deserved all the accolades he got. His PER is Better than Spans in almost every category.

What "accolades" would those be?

Let's see here....


How many Euroleague Final Four MVPs did Nikola Mirotic win?

ZERO

How many Euroleague Final Four MVPs did Vassilis Spanoulis win?

THREE (the most all time)

How many Euroleague season MVPs did Nikola Mirotic win?

ZERO

How many Euroleague season MVPs did Vassilis Spanoulis win?

ONE

How many times was Nikola Mirotic in the All-Euroleague Team?

TWO

How many times was Vassilis Spanoulis in the All-Euroleague Team?

SIX (the most all time)

How many times did Nikola Mirotic win the Euroleague championship?

ZERO

How many times did Vassilis Spanoulis win the Euroleague championship?

THREE


It looks like someone is playing on daddy's computer again.

[Inferno]

The hard evidence is that you are a moron. "Bums from the NBA becoming legends"......

Scalabrine is a legend in USA.

Also, there is no such thing as a "bum from USA" becoming a "legend in Europe". It's a myth that retards like you imagine in your fantasy land you call a brain.

Something you IMAGINE that is not true and never happened, isn't reality.

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[Inferno]

Sorry I don't understand what Euroleague's tying to say in this thread. Is this what he means?

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[Milbuck]

Sorry I don't understand what Euroleague's tying to say in this thread. Is this what he means?

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Quoting for emphasis :applause:

[Rooster]

And there's more, look...

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Just look at the MVPs this year

Sergio - NBA scrub:roll:

Final Four MVP

Tyrese Rice - summer league scrub

[Inferno]

Quoting for emphasis :applause:

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[beastee]

I appreciate whenever their is a Euroleague post. I know my day is going to get brighter and be full of laughter. The ultimate afternoon pick-me-up. :roll: :roll:

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[Inferno]

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Ah, I see. Thanks for pointing us towards basketball reference.

[beastee]

It looks like someone is playing on daddy's computer again.

Halfway through his rookie season, Miritoc will surpass Span's NBA career. So in the eyes of the only league that TRULY matters, you will have that NBA jizz all over your face yet again.

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VSpan: I'm the TMac of Europe:roll: :banghead:

Van Gundy : we have the real TMac here, sit you razz down you turnover machine.:cheers:

[MP.Trey]

Yeah, he's at #29 on this list of legends

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Trajan f*cking Langdon? DONE.

[YouGotServed]

VSpan: I'm the TMac of Europe:roll: :banghead:

Van Gundy : we have the real TMac here, sit you razz down you turnover machine.:cheers:

lmfao :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Euroleague]

How does being 29th mean he is good? Anthony Parker has a higher eFG% than him. So Anthony Parker = GOAT in Euroleague?

Because he's a point guard that is double teamed in every game and that has the ball in his hands all the time and that has to create basically every single offense for his team and that almost never gets an open shot. In fact with 2-3 defenders always being assigned to him.

Parker was nothing more than a slasher than ran in the open court, finished dunks, finished plays and things like that. And he sure the hell never saw any double teams or was the focal point of the design of the other team's defense or the guy that the whole offense depended on to run everything and create everything.

And those stats would be considered very good in the NBA. Just compare it to Stephen "I'm the best shooter in the world" Curry's numbers.

If your IQ approached even room temperature you could figure that out.

But your IQ does not approach room temperature so you can't figure that out.

[MP.Trey]

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Oh my god. :roll:

[Inferno]

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Ah, I see...very compelling argument....

[Milbuck]

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"He'd be the best PG in the NBA"

















:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[MiseryCityTexas]

VSpan: I'm the TMac of Europe:roll: :banghead:

Van Gundy : we have the real TMac here, sit you razz down you turnover machine.:cheers:

Lol I remember everyone on Clutchfans shitted on V-Span hardcore when he made that comment.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Lmao @ the name Lawrence Roberts popping up on that list. I remember everyone at Baylor college used to be on that man's ***** hardcore.

[Euroleague]

most of those guys suck dick in the nba too.. i kinda like dragic though. but everyone else is useless. but how many years, what age were they and whats their per 36? shots per game, role on each team etc...


i'm sure theres more too it.

i mean euro league is more of a team game with different rules. people arent usually ball dominant pg's over there. i'm sure the stats suffer cause of the offensive system. so maybe 14 points is pretty good for a PG

but that doesnt change the fact that he sucked in the nba.

wouldnt his superior talent translate into a softer league that would showcase his skills even more?

what happened with the 2ppg season?


and i'l ask again. why is candice parkers brother your all time GOAT ?

In other words, you are a troll and now you just fall back on the Anthony Parker shit. He was not the best player on his own team when he played in Europe.

You can drop the next line of NBA only fan trolling 101 right now. He was not the best player even on his own team. Go ahead and start on the next NBA only fan trolling point right now. Just SKIP THAT ONE.

Because it won't work anymore. It is completely exposed and debunked.

[Milbuck]

Anthony Parker supposedly wasn't the best player on his team in Euroleague......

.....despite winning MVP, the championship, and Finals MVP :roll:

That's like saying Joel Anthony was the best player on the Heat in 2012..or DJ Mbenga on the 2009 Lakers :oldlol:

[RRR3]

So basically VSpan is an inefficient shotjacking walking turnover in Europe.

[Euroleague]

Sorry I don't understand what Euroleague's tying to say in this thread. Is this what he means?

http://i.imgur.com/aayq3o7.png

Stephen Curry....

4.6 PPG
1.4 RPG
2.1 APG

at the 2010 FIBA World Championship

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/61783/sid/4728/tid/379/_/2010_FIBA_World_Championship/index.html

MEGA FIBA SCRUB

[MP.Trey]

Anthony Parker supposedly wasn't the best player on his team in Euroleague......

.....despite winning MVP, the championship, and Finals MVP :roll:

Was going to call him out on this... but it's Euroleague. Common knowledge that anything he spews out is garbage. Not even worth it.

[Euroleague]

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You buffoon, John Wooden said the best player is always going to be first in turnovers.

[RRR3]

You buffoon, John Wooden said the best player is always going to be first in turnovers.
That's often true especially on a single team but the rest of VSpans stats don't back him up as being the best. Also it's one thing if its magic getting 15 assists or whatever VSpans assist to to ratio sucks

[YouGotServed]

You buffoon, John Wooden said the best player is always going to be first in turnovers.

You hear that guys? John Wooden said it.

[iTare]

You buffoon, John Wooden said the best player is always going to be first in turnovers.
:oldlol:

[MP.Trey]

You buffoon, John Wooden said the best player is always going to be first in turnovers.
By that logic, George McGinnis = GOAT.

[Euroleague]

Anthony Parker supposedly wasn't the best player on his team in Euroleague......

.....despite winning MVP, the championship, and Finals MVP :roll:

That's like saying Joel Anthony was the best player on the Heat in 2012..or DJ Mbenga on the 2009 Lakers :oldlol:

He didn't win Finals MVP one of the years you moron. Jasikevicius did. So how come he didn't win finals MVP on his own team? They won 2 titles you IDIOT.

Someone else won the finals MVP the other year you MORON. That wasn't Parker. Newsflash idiot, it was someone else on his own team.

He didn't win best player in Europe award Jasikevicius did. His own teammate. How come the hell not?

Why the hell could he only win awards voted by the fans like Euroleague MVP? He was winning an online voting contest by being voted by idiots like you from USA.

He did not win best player in Europe award which is the actual award voted by the journalists and the equivalent to NBA MVP award.

His teammate Jasikevicius won that.

He was NOT the best player on his own team.

STFU.

[MiseryCityTexas]

By that logic, George McGinnis = GOAT.


..............................

[RRR3]

^Jessica Vicious was quoted as saying that Parker was the goat.

[MP.Trey]

George Mcginnis was a great basketball player you ****ing idiot.
Good player. I wouldn't go as far as to say great but to each his own. He was a turnover machine though, can't deny that.

[Euroleague]

By that logic, George McGinnis = GOAT.

Evidently you and every other flake here never looked at NBA stats leaders here in your lives.

The leaders in NBA turnovers stats are always the top players in the league.

You are the dumbest people alive.

[YouGotServed]

He didn't win Finals MVP one of the years you moron. Jasikevicius did. So how come he didn't win finals MVP on his own team? They won 2 titles you IDIOT.

Someone else won the finals MVP the other year you MORON. That wasn't Parker. Newsflash idiot, it was someone else on his own team.

He didn't win best player in Europe award Jasikevicius did. His own teammate. How come the hell not?

Why the hell could he only win awards voted by the fans like Euroleague MVP? He was winning an online voting contest by being voted by idiots like you from USA.

He did not win best player in Europe award which is the actual award voted by the journalists and the equivalent to NBA MVP award.

His teammate Jasikevicius won that.

He was NOT the best player on his own team.

STFU.

tl;dr

Nigeria 80 Greece 79

[MiseryCityTexas]

Good player. I wouldn't go as far as to say great but to each his own. He was a turnover machine though, can't deny that.

yeah i edited that comment because i was starting to see what you was trying to say. my bad.

[MP.Trey]

Evidently you and every other flake here never looked at NBA stats leaders here in your lives.

The leaders in NBA turnovers stats are always the top players in the league.

You are the dumbest people alive.
Fine then. By that logic, George McGinnis = 38th greatest player of all-time. Artis Gilmore = Top 6. And Reggie Theus = Top 12. Don't forget the legendary Ron Boone, he's up there in the discussion.

[K Xerxes]

I admit I seriously ROFLd at Trajan Langdon at the top of that list. I still remember that uber scrub back at the Cavs all those years ago. :lol

[MiseryCityTexas]

Fine then. By that logic, George McGinnis = 38th greatest player of all-time. Artis Gilmore = Top 6. And Reggie Theus = Top 12. Don't forget the legendary Ron Boone, he's up there in the discussion.


Reggie Theus was a really good player too.

[Euroleague]

Was going to call him out on this... but it's Euroleague. Common knowledge that anything he spews out is garbage. Not even worth it.

On what? On you and him being retards?

2004 Euroleague MVP = voted on by fans = Parker

2005 Euroleague MVP = voted on by fans = Parker

2004 Euroleague Final Four MVP = voted on by media = Parker


2005 Euroleague Final Four MVP = voted on by media = Jasikevicius

2004 Best Player in Europe = voted on by media = Jasikevicius

2005 Best Player in Europe = voted on by media = Jasikevicius

Best Player in Europe = equivalent of NBA MVP Award because it is NOT voted on by fans online.


Jasikevicius was Parker's teammate. And besides the fact that in Europe the playoff MVP is MORE important than the season MVP.

It's the exact opposite of the NBA. The season MVP is less important and the playoff MVP is more important.

You clowns are so pathetic that there are truly no words to properly describe it.


But you are RACIST. Parker is a black American so he must have been the best player. It could not possibly have been a white European guy.

You are all a bunch of racists, and this is just yet another example of it, and yet another PROOF of it.

Jasikevicius was universally regarded as the best player in Europe, and you RACIST scumbags here claim anyone even questioning that Parker was "the GOAT" is a "liar and a troll".

Your true RACIST colors show through every time.

[Euroleague]

That's often true especially on a single team but the rest of VSpans stats don't back him up as being the best. Also it's one thing if its magic getting 15 assists or whatever VSpans assist to to ratio sucks

Another brain dead moron that can't grasp that Spanoulis has an out of this world assist to turnover ratio...........


It's FIBA assists you idiot.

[Rooster]

I admit I seriously ROFLd at Trajan Langdon at the top of that list. I still remember that uber scrub back at the Cavs all those years ago. :lol

After he got cut from the Clips He got recycled in Europe.:oldlol:

Went to Siberia and build this resume:roll: :oldlol:

[MP.Trey]

Reggie Theus was a really good player too.
Never saw much Theus. Heard some good things though. Big Artis Gilmore fan though. How could you not love this guy?

http://www.artisgilmore.com/imgs_2/Artishomeimg_sml.jpg

[Smoke117]

The funniest thing about this thread was two idiotic trolls like Kenneth and Euroleague arguing with each other. :oldlol:

[jzek]

Can't wait for his return to the NBA. I wonder which team will he lead to the Finals? :confusedshrug:

[jzek]

The funniest thing about this thread was two idiotic trolls like Kenneth and Euroleague arguing with each other. :oldlol:

How do you know they are two different ppl? Maybe it's some dude's alts...

[beastee]

I think we should start a thread count for the the times: Stupid, idiot & moron are said in Euroleague posts. The fact that his green bar reps are that high can only mean our lack of intelligence clearly is true...:lol :lol

[Rooster]

^Jessica Vicious was quoted as saying that Parker was the goat.

Anthony Parker statue in progress GOAT resume

[KobesFinger]

Spanoulis' best season in the Euroleague is 14/5. But EL says he'd average 28/10 in the NBA.

http://media.tumblr.com/2591c43a4ee7df4325373a10918647a6/tumblr_inline_n91c42mD591sbg9nf.jpg

But that's none of my business.

[dr.hee]

You buffoon, John Wooden said the best player is always going to be first in turnovers.

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Agree, the best player. Like Justin Dentmon, Marko Jaric, Lawrence Roberts and Milt Palacio. What an amazing league :applause:

[Rooster]

Never saw much Theus. Heard some good things though. Big Artis Gilmore fan though. How could you not love this guy?

http://www.artisgilmore.com/imgs_2/Artishomeimg_sml.jpg

That's what the corpse of McAdoo and Nique look like in Euroleague.

Also they did not named Anthony Parker

Israeli Jordan for nothing

[Euroleague]

The award for the ACTUAL best basketball player in Europe...

Best Player in Europe Award

Dejan Bodiroga - 2002

Arvydas Macijauskas - 2003
[B]

[HomieWeMajor]

OP is so stupid. V-Span plays in the EuroBasket league which is 4th tier and equivalent to D3 in the states. You can't use his stats from there.

[Euroleague]

[QUOTE=Rooster]Anthony Parker statue in progress GOAT resume

[Oly BC]

[SIZE="4"]Spanoulis' best season in the Euroleague is
As has been pointed out, Ginobili, Calderon, Rubio et al were all 2-3 apg players in Europe.

[Euroleague]

Spanoulis' best season in the Euroleague is 14/5. But EL says he'd average 28/10 in the NBA.

http://media.tumblr.com/2591c43a4ee7df4325373a10918647a6/tumblr_inline_n91c42mD591sbg9nf.jpg

But that's none of my business.

14/5?

How did you come up with that as his "best season?

When he has had in the last 3 seasons...

17/4

15/6

15/6

STOP TROLLING


And a FIBA assist is typically on average worth about 2-3 NBA assists Einstein.

[MP.Trey]

Scalabrine in Euroleague:

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[KobesFinger]

14/5?

How did you come up with that as his "best season?

When he has had in the last 3 seasons...

17/4

15/6

15/6

STOP TROLLING


And a FIBA assist is typically on average worth about 2-3 NBA assists Einstein.

So his scoring average almost doubles? Fvck off

[Euroleague]

As has been pointed out, Ginobili, Calderon, Rubio et al were all 2-3 apg players in Europe.

These people would have to have an IQ at 65 to be able to grasp that, even when it is explained to them like 100 times, AS IT HAS BEEN.

They even have Team USA stats to look at and see for themselves as proof of this, yet they absolutely REFUSE to accept it.

It's amazing how incredibly stupid they truly are.

[beastee]

14/5?

How did you come up with that as his "best season?

When he has had in the last 3 seasons...

17/4

15/6

15/6

STOP TROLLING


And a FIBA assist is typically on average worth about 2-3 NBA assists Einstein.

On 39% FGP. Soooooo impressive.

[HomieWeMajor]

14/5?

How did you come up with that as his "best season?

When he has had in the last 3 seasons...

17/4

15/6

15/6

STOP TROLLING


And a FIBA assist is typically on average worth about 2-3 NBA assists Einstein.
Now that is an outright lie. Euroleauge stakeepers are known to inflate assists numbers in order to make the league more appealing to television broadcasters. Several teams had to fire their statisticians.

[Oly BC]

Now that is an outright lie. Euroleauge stakeepers are known to inflate assists numbers in order to make the league more appealing to television broadcasters. Several teams had to fire their statisticians.
yawn

[Euroleague]

So his scoring average almost doubles? Fvck off

WTF? On a team like the 76ers......28 a game is done with no problem at all.

A POS team that would struggle like freaking hell to make the top 32 of Eurocup.

Playing NBA style.....48 minutes, no one plays any defense at all. TRYING TO LOSE ON PURPOSE.

No hand checking. Defensive 3 seconds. Refs call any contact when a guard drives to the basket.

If freaking guards like Ellis, Harden, Rose can put the numbers they put.....GOOD GOD.

28 points a game in his freaking sleep. It's actually probably - hell. I mean good god. This guy could score 25-30 a game under those conditions without even trying.

You NBA only fans are so freaking delusional words don't even exist for it.

Freaking James Harden putting the numbers he put.....Spanoulis for the love of God........................

He would get that EASILY.

[Milbuck]

14/5?

How did you come up with that as his "best season?

When he has had in the last 3 seasons...

17/4

15/6

15/6

STOP TROLLING


And a FIBA assist is typically on average worth about 2-3 NBA assists Einstein.
Interesting how his Euroleague stats are literally like 5x what his NBA stats were. Euroleague really is just a dogshit level of competition, good god.

[Oly BC]

WTF? On a team like the 76ers......28 a game is done with no problem at all.

A POS team that would struggle like freaking hell to make the top 32 of Eurocup.

Playing NBA style.....48 minutes, no one plays any defense at all. TRYING TO LOSE ON PURPOSE.

No hand checking. Defensive 3 seconds. Refs call any contact when a guard drives to the basket.

If freaking guards like Ellis, Harden Rose can put the numbers they put.....GOOD GOD.

28 points a game in his freaking sleep. It's actually probably - hell. I mean good god. This guy could score 25-30 a game under those conditions without even trying.

You NBA only fans are so freaking delusional words don't even exist for it.

Freaking James Harden putting the numbers he put.....Spanoulis for the love of God........................

He would get that EASILY.
You're forgetting the most important thing, that he could go from 11 shots per game to 21.

But yeah, playing against teams trying to tank is also a major point along with all the rule differences that favour guards.:cheers:

[Euroleague]

On 39% FGP. Soooooo impressive.

His career FG% is 44%, not 39%. Something that would be considered good for an NBA point guard facing SINGLE coverage. He faces DOUBLE TEAMS.

He also had the 4th highest effective FG% in the Euroleague last season.

You clowns are like goose stepping propaganda parroting fascists.

Get some new material.

[dr.hee]

WTF? On a team like the 76ers......28 a game is done with no problem at all.

A POS team that would struggle like freaking hell to make the top 32 of Eurocup.

Playing NBA style.....48 minutes, no one plays any defense at all. TRYING TO LOSE ON PURPOSE.

No hand checking. Defensive 3 seconds. Refs call any contact when a guard drives to the basket.

If freaking guards like Ellis, Harden Rose can put the numbers they put.....GOOD GOD.

28 points a game in his freaking sleep. It's actually probably - hell. I mean good god. This guy could score 25-30 a game under those conditions without even trying.

You NBA only fans are so freaking delusional words don't even exist for it.

Freaking James Harden putting the numbers he put.....Spanoulis for the love of God........................

He would get that EASILY.

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ive honestly never even seen the guy play basketball. so i don't really care

i mean some people in a lunatic hospital think theyre the 2nd coming of jesus. that doesnt make them right



you're literally the only guy on this message board that thinks this guy is a great player

i'd go as far as admitting hes "good" based on the stats, but percentage wise he's ... just ok.... and. but thats about it


i mean atleast when i say kobe is comparable to jordan or better than lebron. i have very high profile names in and around basketball history agreeing with me


you dont even have a single friend that shares your opinion
:roll:

[Smook A.]

What is funny to you? I can look at almost any roster of any NBA team right now and post it here, and 3/4 of the players on the team are barely good enough to make a Eurocup team.
Are you stupid? I'm pretty more than 3/4 of the NBA players today make a Eurocup team without breaking a sweat.

[KobesFinger]

WTF? On a team like the 76ers......28 a game is done with no problem at all.

A POS team that would struggle like freaking hell to make the top 32 of Eurocup.

Playing NBA style.....48 minutes, no one plays any defense at all. TRYING TO LOSE ON PURPOSE.

No hand checking. Defensive 3 seconds. Refs call any contact when a guard drives to the basket.

If freaking guards like Ellis, Harden Rose can put the numbers they put.....GOOD GOD.

28 points a game in his freaking sleep. It's actually probably - hell. I mean good god. This guy could score 25-30 a game under those conditions without even trying.

You NBA only fans are so freaking delusional words don't even exist for it.

Freaking James Harden putting the numbers he put.....Spanoulis for the love of God........................

He would get that EASILY.

Wait wait wait...you think V-Span is as good as Ellis, Harden or Derrick Rose? And we're the delusional ones, are you dumb? 28 in his sleep :oldlol: :oldlol:, in his dreams you mean. Get his nuts out your mouth and face the facts.

You forgot to mention that the NBA has a longer 3 point line and V-Span shot .358 on 3.8 attempts per game since he's returned to the rec league.

[kennethgriffin]

am i the only one on this board that can honestly say "who is vassilis spanoulis?" and not be trolling

i swear other than on ish from euro league ive never heard of the guy before. i didnt even know he played in the nba

probably because he only averaged 2 points on 32% shooting

and i rarely fallow olympics

[Euroleague]

You're forgetting the most important thing, that he could go from 11 shots per game to 21.

But yeah, playing against teams trying to tank is also a major point along with all the rule differences that favour guards.:cheers:

And also no double teams. Just imagine, no double teams....no third defender coming up if he beat the double team...no lane clogged the whole game by 6-9 to 7-0 guys.....

Just imagine playing in a team the level of Panionios...where he could do whatever he wanted to, whenever he wanted to, however he wanted to, for 48 minutes, under such rules, such conditions, such style, that is trying to lose games on purpose....

Look what Errick McCollum did in Panionios with European rules and a team trying to win - how many points he averaged. And these clowns don't think Spanoulis would go off for crazy numbers in such a joke team like 76ers of Bucks or some NBA teams like that?

He would have HUGE numbers in such NBA teams. Absolutely HUGE numbers. These NBA fans saying otherwise are clearly suffering from some kind of inferiority complex where they cannot bring themselves to admit this.

[kennethgriffin]

euro bum.. please post a video of live action from an important game from this guy... preferably not a highlight package. i wanna see game tape. continuous play

i wanna see what ive been missing for the past 30 years

[beastee]

His career FG% is 44%, not 39%. Something that would be considered good for an NBA point guard facing SINGLE coverage. He faces DOUBLE TEAMS.

He also had the 4th highest effective FG% in the Euroleague last season.

You clowns are like goose stepping propaganda parroting fascists.

Get some new material.

His last 2 seasons he shot 39%. That is not good in any league. That is chuck your way out kind of numbers. But double teams....ooooo, derrick rose or CP3 or Westbrook have never seen those before! Nor have they had to drive the lane against the most athletic SF to C's in the world and try and create a shot over dudes who have 40" verticals all over the floor. You my friend are delusional.

[Rooster]

Are you stupid? I'm pretty more than 3/4 of the NBA players today make a Eurocup team without breaking a sweat.

Goudeluck was named the Eurocup MVP while averaging 20 ppg in 25 minutes and 55% FG.

Doellman was another scrub who was named Eurocup Final MVP and this guy average 10 ppg in in mid major college.

[dr.hee]

euro bum.. please post a video of live action from an important game from this guy... preferably not a highlight package. i wanna see game tape. continuous play

i wanna see what ive been missing for the past 30 years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkablUhsbig

[Smook A.]

Stephen Curry....

4.6 PPG
1.4 RPG
2.1 APG

at the 2010 FIBA World Championship

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/61783/sid/4728/tid/379/_/2010_FIBA_World_Championship/index.html

MEGA FIBA SCRUB
He only played 10.4 minutes a game :facepalm

[Euroleague]

ive honestly never even seen the guy play basketball. so i don't really care

i mean some people in a lunatic hospital think theyre the 2nd coming of jesus. that doesnt make them right



you're literally the only guy on this message board that thinks this guy is a great player

i'd go as far as admitting hes "good" based on the stats, but percentage wise he's ... just ok.... and. but thats about it


i mean atleast when i say kobe is comparable to jordan or better than lebron. i have very high profile names in and around basketball history agreeing with me


you dont even have a single friend that shares your opinion
:roll:

Another lie. Many, many posters in this forum have said they think Spanoulis is one of the best, if not the best Euroleague player ever, and that he would be a top 3 PG in the NBA, or maybe the best PG in the NBA.

MANY posters have said that here.

Trolls like you just keep pretending I am the only person here saying he's good.

[kennethgriffin]

Another lie. Many, many posters in this forum have said they think Spanoulis is one of the best, if not the best Euroleague player ever, and that he would be a top 3 PG in the NBA, or maybe the best PG in the NBA.

MANY posters have said that here.

Trolls like you just keep pretending I am the only person here saying he's good.


name these posters... get me quotes.

[Rooster]

am i the only one on this board that can honestly say "who is vassilis spanoulis?" and not be trolling

i swear other than on ish from euro league ive never heard of the guy before. i didnt even know he played in the nba

probably because he only averaged 2 points on 32% shooting

and i rarely fallow olympics

Nothing special:no: . Even Smush Parker outplayed this guy when he was towel waving at Houston.

[Smook A.]

You buffoon, John Wooden said the best player is always going to be first in turnovers.
What the ****? Total bullshit. I just looked it up and couldn't find it anywhere!

Euroleague lies once again :oldlol:

[Oly BC]

euro bum.. please post a video of live action from an important game from this guy... preferably not a highlight package. i wanna see game tape. continuous play

i wanna see what ive been missing for the past 30 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW3OjmOYSGQ


And since we all know you won't be watching a whole game...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmzD9Shv2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRDcIO0fzC8


Find God and repent my child.

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkablUhsbig


thats the worst point guard or shooting guard shooting form ive seen in my entire life of watching basketball


the only players with worse mechanics are bigs or hustle guys


that right there is the reason this guy shot 32% in the nba


what a ****ing joke

[KG215]

WTF? On a team like the 76ers......28 a game is done with no problem at all.

A POS team that would struggle like freaking hell to make the top 32 of Eurocup.

Playing NBA style.....48 minutes, no one plays any defense at all. TRYING TO LOSE ON PURPOSE.

No hand checking. Defensive 3 seconds. Refs call any contact when a guard drives to the basket.

If freaking guards like Ellis, Harden, Rose can put the numbers they put.....GOOD GOD.

28 points a game in his freaking sleep. It's actually probably - hell. I mean good god. This guy could score 25-30 a game under those conditions without even trying.

You NBA only fans are so freaking delusional words don't even exist for it.

Freaking James Harden putting the numbers he put.....Spanoulis for the love of God........................

He would get that EASILY.
:oldlol:

You're such a f***ing moron. So Spanoulis would be in the scoring title race every year on top of averaging 10-15 APG? You can't be serious? You don't truly believe that.

[Smook A.]

Goudeluck was named the Eurocup MVP while averaging 20 ppg in 25 minutes and 55% FG.

Doellman was another scrub who was named Eurocup Final MVP and this guy average 10 ppg in in mid major college.
Good lord. The competition over there (Euroleague, Eurobasket, other european leagues) truly does suck compared to the NBA.

[Oly BC]

thats the worst point guard or shooting guard shooting form ive seen in my entire life of watching basketball


the only players with worse mechanics are bigs or hustle guys


that right there is the reason this guy shot 32% in the nba


what a ****ing joke

Trolling isn't meant to be so obvious, son.:confusedshrug:

[KG215]

name these posters... get me quotes.
Euroleague
Oly BC

That's it. That's the entire list. I've been posting here for five years and visiting/reading close to seven. I can't recall anyone EVER saying that about Spanoulis other than Euroleague. He keeps making this claim ("many" posters here have called V-Span the GOAT Euroleague player) and every time I ask him to list those posters he just ignores it. As usual, he's just lying to get attention. He's a psychotic dipshit who legitimately needs serious psychiatric attention.

[Oly BC]

Euroleague
Oly BC

That's it. That's the entire list. I've been posting here for five years and visiting/reading close to seven. I can't recall anyone EVER saying that about Spanoulis other than Euroleague. He keeps making this claim ("many" posters here have called V-Span the GOAT Euroleague player) and every time I ask him to list those posters he just ignores it. As usual, he's just lying to get attention. He's a psychotic dipshit who legitimately needs serious psychiatric attention.
You're seriously jealous. Do you spend even a second of your day not thinking about Spanoulis?

[kennethgriffin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW3OjmOYSGQ


And since we all know you won't be watching a whole game...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elmzD9Shv2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRDcIO0fzC8


Find God and repent my child.


he moves around like a midget. hes so freaking slow... he takes baby steps or some shit. no defense.

what a horrific shooting form.. he shoots like his arms are 12 inches long or something.. he slingshots everything. his passes arent fancy in any way. basic shit from player movement

i mean the only and i mean ONLY good thing about this guy is hes patient and smart. but hes undersized. slow. unathletic. bad shooting form. stuck in quick sand on defense. roams like he aint really paying attention. uses his body positioning and relys on leverage to beat guys. wouldnt be able to do that in the nba

his movement reminds me of a slower steve nash with no jump shot


i dunno.. im just not at all impressed.

[Euroleague]

Are you stupid? I'm pretty more than 3/4 of the NBA players today make a Eurocup team without breaking a sweat.

Most NBA teams from about player 6-15 or player 8-15, or player 9-15, depending on how deep the team is are absolutely awful.

Some NBA teams from 1-15 are that bad.

Eurocup level or worse.

That's how bad the NBA is these days.

That's why every single year the NBA loses multiple games to Euroleague teams and the games it wins against them......are games where NBA refs push NBA teams at NBA arenas.

The team you are a fan of is a perfect example.

The roster is loaded with scrub after scrub after scrub after scrub after scrub after scrub.

There are maybe let's say 3-4 players on the Rockets (the team you are a fan of) that would make the roster of Olympiacos, the team Spanoulis plays on as the leader and was 2nd in league MVP playing on that team in 2012, was MVP in 2013, and was 2nd in MVP again in 2014...

OK, so you say Spanoulis isn't good enough to even play in the NBA. Yet, he plays in a team where only 3, maybe 4 players from the Rockets would even be good enough to make Olympiacos, and he is on that team playing as a guy that every year is 1st or 2nd in league MVP results.

How great is the NBA really? All you do here is say how horrible the Euroleague is, what a joke it is,. etc. Yet, there are only 3, maybe 4 guys on the Rockets that would make Olympiacos.

That should pretty much be enough to put it in perspective for anyone that wasn't completely insane and retarded. But you and all the other NBA only fans here just can't grasp it.

The Rockets are not even an extreme example.

Milbuck trolls freaking endlessly.......about the Bucks and Giannis....the fact is they don't have a single player that would be playing in Olympiacos.

But this guy and guys like you, Rooster, gabepizza, etc. claim the Bucks would go "undefeated in Euroleague". It's very odd you know, because THEY DON"T HAVE A SINGLE PLAYER that would actually be getting playing time in Spanoulis' team.

That is where the actual world of REALITY separates from the delusional psychosis that exists with you sheeple.

[Euroleague]

Wait wait wait...you think V-Span is as good as Ellis, Harden or Derrick Rose? And we're the delusional ones, are you dumb? 28 in his sleep :oldlol: :oldlol:, in his dreams you mean. Get his nuts out your mouth and face the facts.

You forgot to mention that the NBA has a longer 3 point line and V-Span shot .358 on 3.8 attempts per game since he's returned to the rec league.

No. I think he is way, way, way better than any of them.

[Oly BC]

his passes arent fancy in any way
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

From a fan of the league where Rose/Westbrook are considered top pgs.:lol :lol :lol

Undersized as a 6 4 ballhandler when in the NBA there are pgs under 6 feet.:lol


Oh man, this kind of laughter will kill me.

[Milbuck]

Milbuck trolls freaking endlessly.......about the Bucks and Giannis....the fact is they don't have a single player that would be playing in Olympiacos.

But this guy and guys like you, Rooster, gabepizza, etc. claim the Bucks would go "undefeated in Euroleague". It's very odd you know, because THEY DON"T HAVE A SINGLE PLAYER that would actually be getting playing time in Spanoulis' team.

That is where the actual world of REALITY separates from the delusional psychosis that exists with you sheeple.
They wouldn't be playing in Olympiacos because they play professionally in the NBA you ****ing dipshit :oldlol:

[Smook A.]

No. I think he is way, way, way better than any of them.
Holy shit you're delusional.

I'm definitely putting that in my list of "Stupid ass Euroleague posts"

[KobesFinger]

There are 6 seasons where a player has averaged at least 28 points and 10 assists. 5 of these are by Oscar Robertson, the other by Nate Archibald. The lowest MPG of these 6 seasons is 43.9 and the last time this happened was 1973 where pace was still high. Jordan (32/8) and LeBron (30/9) are the only players to come close. Both of them are all time greats. And if the Sixers are so shit, how is he getting 10 assists? Who is he passing to?

[Euroleague]

His last 2 seasons he shot 39%. That is not good in any league. That is chuck your way out kind of numbers. But double teams....ooooo, derrick rose or CP3 or Westbrook have never seen those before! Nor have they had to drive the lane against the most athletic SF to C's in the world and try and create a shot over dudes who have 40" verticals all over the floor. You my friend are delusional.

There is not a player in the entire NBA that sees the defense pressure Spanoulis gets in the Euroleague. And the lane is always closed.

Just STOP TROLLING.

If Spanoulis was put in NBA he would beast the freaking hell out of it.

Even the biggest Spanoulis haters in the entire WORLD, guys that live at Gate 13 in Panathinaikos...say they want to rape his mother, rape his wife, etc.

Even they admit if you get them in a closed room or private conversation...they will say something very begrudgingly like they think he can average 15/6 in NBA very easily without any problem at all.

These are the people that would burn his house down if they could just get his address.

[Oly BC]

They wouldn't be playing in Olympiacos because they play professionally in the NBA you ****ing dipshit :oldlol:
The players Olympiacos cuts find haven in the rockets and the rockets are a playoff team, not a team competing to break the record for most losses.

[Milbuck]

The players Olympiacos cuts find haven in the rockets and the rockets are a playoff team, not a team competing to break the record for most losses.
Interesting how you mentioned the Rockets, when the Rockets sent Spanoulis's scrub ass packing after 31 games, and he hasn't sniffed the NBA since.

Even more interesting how Giannis in his rookie season as an 18-19 year old thoroughly outplayed Spanoulis in his prime in the NBA.

[Euroleague]

He only played 10.4 minutes a game :facepalm

WTF is your point hypocrite? Spanoulis only played 8 minutes in NBA and you say it was all the time to "prove" he is not capable to play there.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Take your hypocritical double standard and shove it.

[qrich]

Cliff Paul would destroy Vasaline Shitnoulis on the court.

[Oly BC]

Interesting how you mentioned the Rockets, when the Rockets sent Spanoulis's scrub ass packing after 31 games.

Even more interesting how Giannis in his rookie season as an 18-19 year old thoroughly outplayed Spanoulis in his prime in the NBA.
Not at all interesting considering the proven lack of basketball knowledge among the general american population. Some great management by the rockets to collect all of olympiacos trash and release its future leader. :lol

Really, stick with NFL guys.

[Milbuck]

If Spanoulis was put in NBA he would beast the freaking hell out of it.


You mean like this?

http://i.imgur.com/aayq3o7.png

[Milbuck]

Not at all interesting considering the proven lack of basketball knowledge among the general american population.

Really, stick with NFL guys.
It's not interesting to you because you've grasped the idea and accepted it fully. Glad to know you're not in complete denial about Spanoulis being a dogshit basketball player.

[Euroleague]

Goudeluck was named the Eurocup MVP while averaging 20 ppg in 25 minutes and 55% FG.

Doellman was another scrub who was named Eurocup Final MVP and this guy average 10 ppg in in mid major college.

Goudelock averaged 19 points a game and shot 45% from the field as you have been told about 100 times already.

You are a pathological liar and you are mentally disturbed and deranged.

[KG215]

Most NBA teams from about player 6-15 or player 8-15, or player 9-15, depending on how deep the team is are absolutely awful.

Some NBA teams from 1-15 are that bad.

Eurocup level or worse.

That's how bad the NBA is these days.

That's why every single year the NBA loses multiple games to Euroleague teams and the games it wins against them......are games where NBA refs push NBA teams at NBA arenas.

The team you are a fan of is a perfect example.

The roster is loaded with scrub after scrub after scrub after scrub after scrub after scrub.

There are maybe let's say 3-4 players on the Rockets (the team you are a fan of) that would make the roster of Olympiacos, the team Spanoulis plays on as the leader and was 2nd in league MVP playing on that team in 2012, was MVP in 2013, and was 2nd in MVP again in 2014...

OK, so you say Spanoulis isn't good enough to even play in the NBA. Yet, he plays in a team where only 3, maybe 4 players from the Rockets would even be good enough to make Olympiacos, and he is on that team playing as a guy that every year is 1st or 2nd in league MVP results.

How great is the NBA really? All you do here is say how horrible the Euroleague is, what a joke it is,. etc. Yet, there are only 3, maybe 4 guys on the Rockets that would make Olympiacos.

That should pretty much be enough to put it in perspective for anyone that wasn't completely insane and retarded. But you and all the other NBA only fans here just can't grasp it.

The Rockets are not even an extreme example.

Milbuck trolls freaking endlessly.......about the Bucks and Giannis....the fact is they don't have a single player that would be playing in Olympiacos.

But this guy and guys like you, Rooster, gabepizza, etc. claim the Bucks would go "undefeated in Euroleague". It's very odd you know, because THEY DON"T HAVE A SINGLE PLAYER that would actually be getting playing time in Spanoulis' team.

That is where the actual world of REALITY separates from the delusional psychosis that exists with you sheeple.
Care to post the NBA vs. Euroleague head-to-head record? And, if you could, include the games that were blatantly and clearly rigged by the refs to give the NBA team the win.

[Euroleague]

What the ****? Total bullshit. I just looked it up and couldn't find it anywhere!

Euroleague lies once again :oldlol:

It's not a lie a-hole. He told me that.

[Oly BC]

It's not interesting to you because you've grasped the idea and accepted it fully. Glad to know you're not in complete denial about Spanoulis being a dogshit basketball player.
As I've said before, Oly's players that get cut will be sent to playoff teams like the Rockets.

If the bucks want some players, they should look in the second division or in the open basketball courts for some streetballer (who'd surely be a great improvement over let's say Knight).

After all isn't the 2nd greek division where you found your franchise's face?

[Smook A.]

WTF is your point hypocrite? Spanoulis only played 8 minutes in NBA and you say it was all the time to "prove" he is not capable to play there.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Take your hypocritical double standard and shove it.
So what if Spanpoopis only played 8 minutes? He was shit when he actually got the chance to step on the court and showcase his so-called "mega skills". The guy shot 32 ****ing % from the field. Minutes have nothing to do with that horrendous shooting percentage. The way he played was absolutely his fault.

When Curry played, he actually had a respectable shooting percentage. He never shot below 50% in any of those FIBA games, except that game vs Russia where he went 0/1.

[qrich]

The face of Greek basketball was worse than Rick Brunson in the NBA.....


And, on top of it, idiot fans try to claim Peja as Greek.


:roll:

[Euroleague]

Good lord. The competition over there (Euroleague, Eurobasket, other european leagues) truly does suck compared to the NBA.

He's lying. The mere fact you could not figure out that he lies every time he posts.......after seeing him LIE now for thousands of posts.....


is proof of you having a mental incapacitation.

[KG215]

[QUOTE=Euroleague]There is not a player in the entire NBA that sees the defense pressure Spanoulis gets in the Euroleague. And the lane is always closed.[QUOTE]
Seriously, just quit making shit up and try, just once in your life, to not be so jaded and biased. You post this type of sensationalized bullshit, then expect anyone to engage in a serious, legit discussion with you?

Let's start a list:

- Many, many posters on ISH have said V-Span is one of or the best player in European history. LIE

- Spanoulis would easily average 25-30 PPG in the NBA on top of 10-15 APG. Can't factually prove it, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is complete and utter bullshit.

- No player in the NBA or world faces as much defensive pressure than Spanoulis. Again, can't really actually prove it without wading through hours of film, but I'm going to go out on another limb and say this is total bullshit.


Seriously, if you could just go, say, one week without posting over the top, sensationalized bullshit, people on here might actually start taking you semi-seriously. Until then, just keep expecting to get trolled and laughed at because you bring it on yourself with all the lying and bullshit you post.

[kennethgriffin]

i still dont get it


he failed the eye test


he failed the statistical test


he failed the nba test


he failed the public opinion test





whats left?

[Milbuck]

As I've said before, Oly's players that get cut will be sent to playoff teams like the Rockets.

If the bucks want some players, they should look in the second division or in the open basketball courts for some streetballer (who'd surely be a great improvement over let's say Knight).

After all isn't the 2nd greek division where you found your franchise's face?
Bucks would go undefeated in the Euroleague. Giannis, Jabari, Knight, Sanders, Henson, half our team could get injured and we'd still win it all with Khris ****ing Middleton winning FMVP.

[Euroleague]

:oldlol:

You're such a f***ing moron. So Spanoulis would be in the scoring title race every year on top of averaging 10-15 APG? You can't be serious? You don't truly believe that.

This is why you are such a freaking joke. There is no belief in any part of it. I am stating FACT. It's NOT "belief". It's FACT. You don't have to "believe" something that is factually true. It's just true.

You don't seem to be mentally capable of being able to grasp the difference between a belief system and a fact.

[Smook A.]

Goudelock averaged 19 points a game and shot 45% from the field as you have been told about 100 times already.

You are a pathological liar and you are mentally disturbed and deranged.
19 on 45% is still 100x better than his NBA stats. More proof that NBA >>> any league in Europe

[kennethgriffin]

i'l tell ya what euroleague

if your friend spanfoolus makes the naismith hall of fame. i owe you a coke

[Milbuck]

This is why you are such a freaking joke. There is no belief in any part of it. I am stating FACT. It's NOT "belief". It's FACT. You don't have to "believe" something that is factually true. It's just true.

You don't seem to be mentally capable of being able to grasp the difference between a belief system and a fact.
http://i.imgur.com/aayq3o7.png


"He'd be the scoring leader and assists leader"


:roll:

[Euroleague]

Euroleague
Oly BC

That's it. That's the entire list. I've been posting here for five years and visiting/reading close to seven. I can't recall anyone EVER saying that about Spanoulis other than Euroleague. He keeps making this claim ("many" posters here have called V-Span the GOAT Euroleague player) and every time I ask him to list those posters he just ignores it. As usual, he's just lying to get attention. He's a psychotic dipshit who legitimately needs serious psychiatric attention.

marlo
Fiba
Maga

That's all I can think of right now, but several other posters here as well. It's just that their user names are escaping me right now.

You have posted in probably 2-3 dozen threads where these and other posters also told you this. AGAIN proving what a lying SOB you are.

[KG215]

This is why you are such a freaking joke. There is no belief in any part of it. I am stating FACT. It's NOT "belief". It's FACT. You don't have to "believe" something that is factually true. It's just true.

You don't seem to be mentally capable of being able to grasp the difference between a belief system and a fact.
Then prove it. If it's "factually" true, then it should be a piece of cake. SO, prove to me Spanoulis would, without question, average 25-30 PPG and 10-15 APG. Until you actually prove it, it's nothing more than speculation and you slinging your own shit at a wall and going with what sticks.

[chazzy]

i still dont get it


he failed the eye test


he failed the statistical test


he failed the nba test


he failed the public opinion test





whats left?
Euroleague's heart test.

[Derka]

Because the Euroleague is a better league than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better defense than the NBA. Because the Euroleague is more physical than the NBA. Because the Euroleague has better point guards than the NBA.

Because the Euroleague does not have the joke rules that the NBA has that make it easy for point guards to play.

Because you have to be somewhat halfway intelligent to play point guard in Euroleague.


lol, none of those things are true but its funny when you say them because people blow up and take you seriously. :lol

[Smook A.]

marlo
Fiba
Maga

That's all I can think of right now, but several other posters here as well. It's just that their user names are escaping me right now.

You have posted in probably 2-3 dozen threads where these and other posters also told you this. AGAIN proving what a lying SOB you are.
:oldlol: LOL at the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of ISH posters and only 4-5 of them agree with the bullcrap Euroleague says.

[Euroleague]

he moves around like a midget. hes so freaking slow... he takes baby steps or some shit. no defense.

what a horrific shooting form.. he shoots like his arms are 12 inches long or something.. he slingshots everything. his passes arent fancy in any way. basic shit from player movement

i mean the only and i mean ONLY good thing about this guy is hes patient and smart. but hes undersized. slow. unathletic. bad shooting form. stuck in quick sand on defense. roams like he aint really paying attention. uses his body positioning and relys on leverage to beat guys. wouldnt be able to do that in the nba

his movement reminds me of a slower steve nash with no jump shot


i dunno.. im just not at all impressed.

The RACISTS just can't help themselves.

He's the FASTEST player on the court against Team USA..........but he's "too slow to play in the NBA".

The RACISTS really need to get some new material. Sadly they can't. They don't have the intelligence to come up with anything more creative than "not athletic enough" and "too slow".

:rolleyes:

[Smook A.]

The RACISTS just can't help themselves.

He's the FASTEST player on the court against Team USA..........but he's "too slow to play in the NBA".

The RACISTS really need to get some new material. Sadly they can't. They don't have the intelligence to come up with anything more creative than "not athletic enough" and "too slow".

:rolleyes:
:facepalm

So if I say that a guy like Dirk Nowitkzi isn't athletic, does that make me racist? You really do not know what the word means.

[blood yes]

So the supposed "best" player in the euroleague, and 3rd best in the world behind LeBron and Durant, only averages FIVE assists a game?

The funny thing is, Ricky Rubio (AKA the guy that u always hate on) averages almost NINE assists per game in a much better league (AKA the NBA).

Euroleague, explain yourself, lol:lol :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I don't get HOW a topic like this generated 14 pages of back and forth? Are people that transparent and oblivious to Euroleague's trolling? :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

Care to post the NBA vs. Euroleague head-to-head record? And, if you could, include the games that were blatantly and clearly rigged by the refs to give the NBA team the win.

You are retarded and you are a troll.

NBA is 4-3 since they allowed 1 FIBA ref.

The games in USA do NOT allow 1 FIBA ref and are rigged, even if the NBA team loses, they still usually tried their best to rig it but just failed.

Besides this is the issue that the NBA chooses the games the same way Mickey selected Rocky's opponents. They very carefully chose what teams they play and where.

This has been discussed here over and over, and EVERY European fan here has laughed about it and made fun of the NBA over it. How they are scared absolutely shitless to go play in ANY hot arena.

And it's absolutely comical how NBA only fans continue to talk about games that involved 3 NBA refs that everyone knows were rigged, and how they continue to IGNORE how in the games with 1 FIBA ref the NBA teams immediately started losing.

YOU ARE A psychopathic POS.

[Smook A.]

You are retarded and you are a troll.

NBA is 4-3 since they allowed 1 FIBA ref.

The games in USA do NOT allow 1 FIBA ref and are rigged, even if the NBA team loses, they still usually tried their best to rig it but just failed.

Besides this is the issue that the NBA chooses the games the same way Mickey selected Rocky's opponents. They very carefully chose what teams they play and where.

This has been discussed here over and over, and EVERY European fan here has laughed about it and made fun of the NBA over it. How they are scared absolutely shitless to go play in ANY hot arena.

And it's absolutely comical how NBA only fans continue to talk about games that involved 3 NBA refs that everyone knows were rigged, and how they continue to IGNORE how in the games with 1 FIBA ref the NBA teams immediately started losing.

YOU ARE A psychopathic POS.
Still a winning record, which means NBA > Euroleague

[Euroleague]

Bucks would go undefeated in the Euroleague. Giannis, Jabari, Knight, Sanders, Henson, half our team could get injured and we'd still win it all with Khris ****ing Middleton winning FMVP.

If you are not trolling, and you REALLY believe this......................


:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Euroleague]

19 on 45% is still 100x better than his NBA stats. More proof that NBA >>> any league in Europe

He wasn't playing in Euroleague you freaking moron. He was playing in European D-League.

[Euroleague]

:facepalm

So if I say that a guy like Dirk Nowitkzi isn't athletic, does that make me racist? You really do not know what the word means.

When a racist says something racist, he does not stop being racist, by simply saying,

"I am not racist because the person I said something racist to does not know what racism is."

Keep reading from the racist 101 guidebook.

It's not working.

[Euroleague]

So the supposed "best" player in the euroleague, and 3rd best in the world behind LeBron and Durant, only averages FIVE assists a game?

The funny thing is, Ricky Rubio (AKA the guy that u always hate on) averages almost NINE assists per game in a much better league (AKA the NBA).

Euroleague, explain yourself, lol:lol :lol

Rubio never averaged more than 4 assists per game in Euroleague genius.

And before that psycho outbreak comes in here and says, "that was at age 16", the same LIE he keeps claiming here.

Rubio played in Euroleague at age 20, and at age 20, he averaged 4 assists per game in Euroleague.

Once again, we have another troll here that isn't very bright.

[Euroleague]

Still a winning record, which means NBA > Euroleague

The point is the record is 4-3 since they started using 1 FIBA ref, in the games that they allow 1 FIBA ref.....but that the NBA only allows to play in very SELECT games in those games.

They REFUSE to play against any difficult situations. Which is a big joke in Europe. They are hand picking all of the games.

[blood yes]

Rubio never averaged more than 4 assists per game in Euroleague genius.

And before that psycho outbreak comes in here and says, "that was at age 16", the same LIE he keeps claiming here.

Rubio played in Euroleague at age 20, and at age 20, he averaged 4 assists per game in Euroleague.

Once again, we have another troll here that isn't very bright.
LOL, lying with the stats again. Here's a direct quote from a news article

"In the 110

[beastee]

I don't get HOW a topic like this generated 14 pages of back and forth? Are people that transparent and oblivious to Euroleague's trolling? :oldlol:

It keeps going because it cracks us up. Either this guy is the best troll on this site or he is an absolute headcase. He makes me smile with the ridiculous claims in his posts...hence the troll feeding. :cheers:

[Rooster]

LOL, lying with the stats again. Here's a direct quote from a news article

"In the 110–106 double overtime finale victory over Russia, Rubio scored 51 points, the first player to do so in FIBA tournaments since Luol Deng (in 2001), grabbed 24 rebounds, made 12 assists, and stole the ball seven times—a performance unprecedented in the tournament's history. He also forced the first overtime with a three-point, buzzer-beating shot from mid-court. Rubio was subsequently named the Most Valuable Player of the tournament after leading it in points, rebounds, assists and steals."

24 rebounds, 12 assists, 51 points? At age 20? Dam, i think even i can score a bucket in euroleague

He's playing against guys who can't jump over a piece of paper. :no: :oldlol:

[Smook A.]

He wasn't playing in Euroleague you freaking moron. He was playing in European D-League.
I never said that you dipshit. I CLEARLY said "any league in Europe", but obviously you couldn't read it because you're dumber than rocks.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

He didn't win Finals MVP one of the years you moron. Jasikevicius did. So how come he didn't win finals MVP on his own team? They won 2 titles you IDIOT.

Someone else won the finals MVP the other year you MORON. That wasn't Parker. Newsflash idiot, it was someone else on his own team.

He didn't win best player in Europe award Jasikevicius did. His own teammate. How come the hell not?

Why the hell could he only win awards voted by the fans like Euroleague MVP? He was winning an online voting contest by being voted by idiots like you from USA.

He did not win best player in Europe award which is the actual award voted by the journalists and the equivalent to NBA MVP award.

His teammate Jasikevicius won that.

He was NOT the best player on his own team.

STFU.

David Blatt explicity said that Parker was the best player in Europe...and he was coaching the team..

[Inferno]

Stephen Curry....

4.6 PPG
1.4 RPG
2.1 APG

at the 2010 FIBA World Championship

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/61783/sid/4728/tid/379/_/2010_FIBA_World_Championship/index.html

MEGA FIBA SCRUB

That'd be great and all if it wasn't 4 years ago when he was 22. He also attempted like 31 ****ing shots the entire tournament and shot a 45/37/100 clip, with 58% on 2 points. I'd say 5/1/2 isn't bad for a roleplayer that played like 10 ****ing minutes per game. Compare that to Shitnoullis in the NBA, age 24, prime age, getting low minutes like Curry but shooting 32% FG in the NBA to Steph's 45% in Fiba, 17% on 3's to Steph's 37% in Fiba, averaging 2.7 points to Steph's 4.6, 0.7 rebounds to Steph's 1.4, and 0.9 assists to Steph's 2.1.

So basically a 22 year old Steph performed much better in international play than a 24 year old Shit-Span did in the NBA, with both barely getting play time & Steph shooting miles better and doubling all of his raw stats. So what the **** exactly are you trying to say? Curry > V-Span? Got it.

[Inferno]

Can't wait to see how Steph does this year in FIBA so Euroleague can shut the **** up :lol

[Maga_1]

[QUOTE=blood yes]LOL, lying with the stats again. Here's a direct quote from a news article

"In the 110

[Maga_1]

marlo
Fiba
Maga

That's all I can think of right now, but several other posters here as well. It's just that their user names are escaping me right now.

You have posted in probably 2-3 dozen threads where these and other posters also told you this. AGAIN proving what a lying SOB you are.

Sorry, never said he would be a top3 PG in the world.

[boldarblood]

Why do you Euroleague continue to avoid the question of who all these posters with. Provide proof.

[Koresh]

Jeff, I mean Euroleague's logic:

Anthony Parker's Euroleague MVP = voted by fans, media and journalists. It's not legitimate, guys.

Vassilis Spanoulis' Euroleague MVP = It's legitimate and he deserved it.

Jeff, I mean Euroleague, you make this TOO EASY. Everything you say can be debunked, but of course you use no facts, sources or anything, it's you're an idiot, troll, psychopath, moron, your IQ is not even room temperature, etc.

It's going to be so much fun exposing your monkey ass on ISH. That day will be glorious :cheers: :applause: :rockon: :bowdown:

[outbreak]

Jeff, I mean Euroleague's logic:

Anthony Parker's Euroleague MVP = voted by fans, media and journalists. It's not legitimate, guys.

Vassilis Spanoulis' Euroleague MVP = It's legitimate and he deserved it.

Jeff, I mean Euroleague, you make this TOO EASY. Everything you say can be debunked, but of course you use no facts, sources or anything, it's you're an idiot, troll, psychopath, moron, your IQ is not even room temperature, etc.

It's going to be so much fun exposing your monkey ass on ISH. That day will be glorious :cheers: :applause: :rockon: :bowdown:


v-spans stats are low because everyones stats are low in the euro league
ANY nba players plays in euroleague and puts up lower stats than in the NBA = multiple threads and posts about how over rated they are and how they can't cope in the euro league because they averaged 3 ppg less.

[KG215]

Why do you Euroleague continue to avoid the question of who all these posters with. Provide proof.
He's also said Yao Ming called Spanoulis one of or the GOAT European, was asked to provide a link to prove it many times and never did. Said it's factually true that Spanoulis would, without a doubt, average 25-30 PPG and 10-15 APG and, when asked how the hell something like that can be factually true without it actually happening, never responded. Pretty sure he said John Wooden himself told him something.

Basically, you want to know you've REALLY caught Euroleague with his pants down. Pick any of his numerous bullshit posts (which are all of his posts so I target the most outlandish) and just quote him and ask for any kind of proof. If he doesn't respond after the third or fourth time you've asked him, then you really know he's lying. Sure, there's really no point, but when you do get him to actually reply, his response is almost always priceless.


Sorry, never said he would be a top3 PG in the world.
Pretty much all he did was list the posters who closely follow and know something about European/international basketball. Figured it'd fly and none of you would actually call him out on it.

[Maga_1]

Pretty much all he did was list the posters who closely follow and know something about European/international basketball. Figured it'd fly and none of you would actually call him out on it.

Like i said before, i like Spanoulis he's a pretty good player.
He could have been a legit starter in some teams or a great spark of the bench for contending franchises. But no way he's a top 3 in the world.
Top 3 in Europe? I say yes.

[outbreak]

He's also said Yao Ming called Spanoulis one of or the GOAT European, was asked to provide a link to prove it many times and never did. Said it's factually true that Spanoulis would, without a doubt, average 25-30 PPG and 10-15 APG and, when asked how the hell something like that can be factually true without it actually happening, never responded. Pretty sure he said John Wooden himself told him something.

Basically, you want to know you've REALLY caught Euroleague with his pants down. Pick any of his numerous bullshit posts (which are all of his posts so I target the most outlandish) and just quote him and ask for any kind of proof. If he doesn't respond after the third or fourth time you've asked him, then you really know he's lying. Sure, there's really no point, but when you do get him to actually reply, his response is almost always priceless.


Pretty much all he did was list the posters who closely follow and know something about European/international basketball. Figured it'd fly and none of you would actually call him out on it.

Remember when he said Tony Parker claimed and confirmed the eurobasket or whatever was a better competition than the NBA, then when a link surfaced he actually just said it means more to him than an NBA title because he loves representing his country? All his quotes and claims come from twisting words, he posted about something once and had actually added in paragraphs of his own to make it fit his agenda and someone found the actual article without his additions. He's ****ing crazy.

[Cali Syndicate]

What is your point? He isn't at the very top in every single category he should be in for his position like Spanoulis is.

And he played more years and is older. His career is basically ending...Spanoulis is at his prime now.

Same with Diamantidis.

They are at the career leaders, but they have the same thing like being that high in points, assists etc in every league like Spanoulis and at that age and being that efficient as a scorer.

So clearly those stats show Spanoulis is most efficient and dominant offensive player in Europe.

It shows Diamantidis likes to stuff a stat sheet and Navarro likes to take a lot of 3s.

Navarro has better ts% but why is he lower on the rankings?

[Koresh]

I don't get HOW a topic like this generated 14 pages of back and forth? Are people that transparent and oblivious to Euroleague's trolling? :oldlol:


JEFF will be dealt with very soon, man. Damn, I just keep having the name JEFF on the fingertips, oops, I need to stop Freudian slipping. Euroleague, my apologies, will be dealt with very soon, meaning his trolling will be STOPPED. He won't be on this site much longer and not because of a banning because of being exposed so brutally that he's too embarrassed to come back on ISH.

[Dr.J4ever]

He's also said Yao Ming called Spanoulis one of or the GOAT European, was asked to provide a link to prove it many times and never did. Said it's factually true that Spanoulis would, without a doubt, average 25-30 PPG and 10-15 APG and, when asked how the hell something like that can be factually true without it actually happening, never responded. Pretty sure he said John Wooden himself told him something.

Basically, you want to know you've REALLY caught Euroleague with his pants down. Pick any of his numerous bullshit posts (which are all of his posts so I target the most outlandish) and just quote him and ask for any kind of proof. If he doesn't respond after the third or fourth time you've asked him, then you really know he's lying. Sure, there's really no point, but when you do get him to actually reply, his response is almost always priceless.


Pretty much all he did was list the posters who closely follow and know something about European/international basketball. Figured it'd fly and none of you would actually call him out on it.

LOL on this whole thread!

Include FIBA among posters who never said what EL claimed they said about Vspan. FIBA is a respectable poster here, and I know he used to argue with EL "overrating" Greek players.

He also never said Vspan is a top 3 PG in the world. More lies.

Marlo, however, might be true, but Marlo is in a league all by himself, so he's more than capable.:lol

BTW, NBA vs. EL, is 44-10.....44-10.....44-10....44-10!:bowdown:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_versus_Euroleague_games


"NBA teams have an overall record of 44-10 against Euroleague teams.
NBA teams have a record of 32-3 when playing the games at home, under NBA rules, and with three NBA refs.
NBA teams have a record of 12-7 when playing the games away, under a combination of mixed NBA and FIBA rules, with two NBA refs and one Euroleague ref."

/close thread

[deja vu]

[QUOTE=Rooster]Anthony Parker statue in progress GOAT resume

[dr.hee]

Like i said before, i like Spanoulis he's a pretty good player.
He could have been a legit starter in some teams or a great spark of the bench for contending franchises. But no way he's a top 3 in the world.
Top 3 in Europe? I say yes.

This. I'd say his biggest problem would be his ego. He's more than capable of being a good NBA player, but he doesn't look like the type of guy recognizing and accepting when he's not the best player on his team. He could be very good running the PnR with skilled big men like Dirk, Pau or Aldridge. I just don't see him accepting anything but the #1 option, which he just never could be in the NBA.

[BoutPractice]

Exactly.

Vassilis is definitely one of the greatest Greek players ever (though I still think Diamantidis is better due to his defense, and would have translated better to the NBA had he so chosen because he would have accepted being a great role player).

His arrogance prevented him from achieving anything in the NBA. Sure, there were obstacles in his way... but there always are. He didn't do anything to overcome them. Didn't fight through it, just quit and went back to Europe.

Now, for those who overinterpret European stats, though...

Nikola Pekovic in Euroleague, 2010 (age: 24) 15 ppg, 3.5 rpg in 22 mpg
Nikola Pekovic in NBA, 2014 (age: 28): 17.5 ppg, 9 rpg in 30 mpg, arguably All-Star level center

Goran Dragic in Euroleague, 2008 (age 22): 10 ppg, 3 apg, 3 rpg in 27 mpg
Goran Dragic in NBA, 2014 (age 28): 20 ppg, 6 apg, 3 rpg in 35 mpg, All-Star snub

Marc Gasol in ACB (not Euroleague), 2008 (age: 23): 16 ppg, 8 rpg, 2.5 apg, 2 bpg in 33 mpg
Marc Gasol in NBA, 2012 (age: 28): 14.5 ppg, 9 rpg, 3 apg, 2 bpg in 36 mpg, All-Star selection

Marcin Gortat in Euroleague, 2007 (age: 22): 10 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1 bpg in 27 mpg
Marcin Gortat in NBA, 2012 (age: 27): 15 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.5 bpg in 32 mpg

[gabepizza]

Like i said before, i like Spanoulis he's a pretty good player.
He could have been a legit starter in some teams or a great spark of the bench for contending franchises. But no way he's a top 3 in the world.
Top 3 in Europe? I say yes.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Maybe he could have been a legit starter for a contending team, ala Mario Chalmers, but he would have never sniffed an all-star game even, forgot any all-nba teams.

[dr.hee]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Maybe he could have been a legit starter for a contending team, ala Mario Chalmers, but he would have never sniffed an all-star game even, forgot any all-nba teams.

I think he could've won 6th man awards in a role like Terry for the Mavs. Never would've accepted the role though. Too much ego to recognize superior players on his team.

[Euroleague]

LOL, lying with the stats again. Here's a direct quote from a news article

"In the 110–106 double overtime finale victory over Russia, Rubio scored 51 points, the first player to do so in FIBA tournaments since Luol Deng (in 2001), grabbed 24 rebounds, made 12 assists, and stole the ball seven times—a performance unprecedented in the tournament's history. He also forced the first overtime with a three-point, buzzer-beating shot from mid-court. Rubio was subsequently named the Most Valuable Player of the tournament after leading it in points, rebounds, assists and steals."

24 rebounds, 12 assists, 51 points? At age 20? Dam, i think even i can score a bucket in euroleague


Ricky Rubio's stats in the Euroleague from the Euroleague's official website:


http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=LFW&seasoncode=E2010


You are OFFICIALLY in the running for the dumbest person to ever post in this forum.

[Euroleague]

I never said that you dipshit. I CLEARLY said "any league in Europe", but obviously you couldn't read it because you're dumber than rocks.

Euroleague qualifies as "ANY league in Europe". Meaning YOU are the one that is a true moron.

[duskovujosevic]

vaginoulis isn't even best greek player of all time.

let's hope euroleague win battle with bipolar disorder. take your pills on time.

[Euroleague]

That'd be great and all if it wasn't 4 years ago when he was 22. He also attempted like 31 ****ing shots the entire tournament and shot a 45/37/100 clip, with 58% on 2 points. I'd say 5/1/2 isn't bad for a roleplayer that played like 10 ****ing minutes per game. Compare that to Shitnoullis in the NBA, age 24, prime age, getting low minutes like Curry but shooting 32% FG in the NBA to Steph's 45% in Fiba, 17% on 3's to Steph's 37% in Fiba, averaging 2.7 points to Steph's 4.6, 0.7 rebounds to Steph's 1.4, and 0.9 assists to Steph's 2.1.

So basically a 22 year old Steph performed much better in international play than a 24 year old Shit-Span did in the NBA, with both barely getting play time & Steph shooting miles better and doubling all of his raw stats. So what the **** exactly are you trying to say? Curry > V-Span? Got it.

Spanoulis is vastly superior to Curry.

Keep living in denial.

[Euroleague]

Just to clear something out.
That was in 2006, in the U16 European Championship Final :lol
And i think those stats are wrong, i think it was 51-12-11-6.. i have the game somewhere in my house, i was there :lol

When did fact and truth ever matter to an NBA only fan?

[Euroleague]

Sorry, never said he would be a top3 PG in the world.

I was talking about the part of him being one of the best Euroleague players now and of all time. They claim I am the ONLY person here to ever say that.

You and FIBA, Oly BC, and Marlo also agreed with that.

The top 3 PG was agreed upon by Oly BC, and Marlo. I was not talking specifics of what each person said or agreed on. Just making the point that they are LYING when they claim that "NO ONE" here agrees with any of my statements about Spanoulis.

That's complete and total BULLSHIT.

Other posters here also have agreed with such statements as these, I just can't remember their user names.

[Milbuck]

Curry literally averaged around 9 times the points and assists per game Spanoulis averaged in his prime in the NBA :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

Jeff, I mean Euroleague's logic:

Anthony Parker's Euroleague MVP = voted by fans, media and journalists. It's not legitimate, guys.

Vassilis Spanoulis' Euroleague MVP = It's legitimate and he deserved it.

Jeff, I mean Euroleague, you make this TOO EASY. Everything you say can be debunked, but of course you use no facts, sources or anything, it's you're an idiot, troll, psychopath, moron, your IQ is not even room temperature, etc.

It's going to be so much fun exposing your monkey ass on ISH. That day will be glorious :cheers: :applause: :rockon: :bowdown:

BULLSHIT. FAILED TROLL.

You and the other trolls are claiming Parker was the best player in Europe, when he was NOT the best player on his team.

The best player of Europe award proves that. Of which Spanoulis and Jasikevicius won, and Parker did NOT win.

You clowns are a bunch of complete JOKES. That you will ONLY consider an award that is voted on by fans.

But the award that is voted on by all of the continent's 300 basketball journalists does not count according to you morons. Just the one the fans vote on................on the internet.......and each IP address can vote ONCE A DAY.

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Euroleague]

v-spans stats are low because everyones stats are low in the euro league
ANY nba players plays in euroleague and puts up lower stats than in the NBA = multiple threads and posts about how over rated they are and how they can't cope in the euro league because they averaged 3 ppg less.

Spanoulis does not have "low stats" you moron. The ones with "low stats" are all the guys are starting in the NBA.

14/4 average for a career is not "low stats".

The best seasons of

Brandon Jennings 7/2

Beno Udrih 8/3

Calderon 9/2

Rubio 7/4

Dragic 8/3

and and on and on and on....guys that STARTED in the NBA and put up pretty good numbers in each case............those are the ones with "low stats" in Euroleague.

No matter how many times you attempt your little manipulations and to twist the truth - you FAIL at an astonishingly EPIC level.

[Euroleague]

Like i said before, i like Spanoulis he's a pretty good player.
He could have been a legit starter in some teams or a great spark of the bench for contending franchises. But no way he's a top 3 in the world.
Top 3 in Europe? I say yes.

WTF? Who the hell is better in Europe than Spanoulis?

:wtf:

[Euroleague]

He's also said Yao Ming called Spanoulis one of or the GOAT European, was asked to provide a link to prove it many times and never did. Said it's factually true that Spanoulis would, without a doubt, average 25-30 PPG and 10-15 APG and, when asked how the hell something like that can be factually true without it actually happening, never responded. Pretty sure he said John Wooden himself told him something.

Basically, you want to know you've REALLY caught Euroleague with his pants down. Pick any of his numerous bullshit posts (which are all of his posts so I target the most outlandish) and just quote him and ask for any kind of proof. If he doesn't respond after the third or fourth time you've asked him, then you really know he's lying. Sure, there's really no point, but when you do get him to actually reply, his response is almost always priceless.


Pretty much all he did was list the posters who closely follow and know something about European/international basketball. Figured it'd fly and none of you would actually call him out on it.

Dante's Inferno.............you obviously never read it.

[Euroleague]

Remember when he said Tony Parker claimed and confirmed the eurobasket or whatever was a better competition than the NBA, then when a link surfaced he actually just said it means more to him than an NBA title because he loves representing his country? All his quotes and claims come from twisting words, he posted about something once and had actually added in paragraphs of his own to make it fit his agenda and someone found the actual article without his additions. He's ****ing crazy.

Remember the 5 million times you lied? Of course not.........because you lie about 100 times a day.

I said Noah said EuroBasket was better, not Parker. I never said anything about Parker saying it idiot. I said exactly what Parker said. EuroBasket gold is better than an NBA title.

You are a sick, sick, sick, SICK individual.

[Euroleague]

JEFF will be dealt with very soon, man. Damn, I just keep having the name JEFF on the fingertips, oops, I need to stop Freudian slipping. Euroleague, my apologies, will be dealt with very soon, meaning his trolling will be STOPPED. He won't be on this site much longer and not because of a banning because of being exposed so brutally that he's too embarrassed to come back on ISH.

Reporting people for being "suicidal" when they are not....tracking IPs, reporting people to the FBI for "harassment and hacking" when they did not do anything...

Claiming you are a "community contributor to an online project" when you in fact just trying to get people arrested by sending cops to their house....

Ah yes, I am sooooooooooooooo scared. You are playing in the world you cannot even comprehend.

[dr.hee]

Another lie. Many, many posters in this forum have said they think Spanoulis is one of the best, if not the best Euroleague player ever, and that he would be a top 3 PG in the NBA, or maybe the best PG in the NBA.

MANY posters have said that here.

Trolls like you just keep pretending I am the only person here saying he's good.


name these posters... get me quotes.


marlo
Fiba
Maga

That's all I can think of right now, but several other posters here as well. It's just that their user names are escaping me right now.

You have posted in probably 2-3 dozen threads where these and other posters also told you this. AGAIN proving what a lying SOB you are.



Sorry, never said he would be a top3 PG in the world.



Like i said before, i like Spanoulis he's a pretty good player.
He could have been a legit starter in some teams or a great spark of the bench for contending franchises. But no way he's a top 3 in the world.
Top 3 in Europe? I say yes.


:roll:

[Euroleague]

LOL on this whole thread!

Include FIBA among posters who never said what EL claimed they said about Vspan. FIBA is a respectable poster here, and I know he used to argue with EL "overrating" Greek players.

He also never said Vspan is a top 3 PG in the world. More lies.

Marlo, however, might be true, but Marlo is in a league all by himself, so he's more than capable.:lol

BTW, NBA vs. EL, is 44-10.....44-10.....44-10....44-10!:bowdown:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_versus_Euroleague_games


"NBA teams have an overall record of 44-10 against Euroleague teams.
NBA teams have a record of 32-3 when playing the games at home, under NBA rules, and with three NBA refs.
NBA teams have a record of 12-7 when playing the games away, under a combination of mixed NBA and FIBA rules, with two NBA refs and one Euroleague ref."

/close thread

YES HE DID. He said many times here Spanoulis is one of the best Euroleague players ever.

I don't give a damn what a lying CREEP like you claims. He has said that many times here and he said he agrees with that.

[Dr.J4ever]

YES HE DID. He said many times here Spanoulis is one of the best Euroleague players ever.

I don't give a damn what a lying CREEP like you claims. He has said that many times here and he said he agrees with that.

You're lying again.

You didn't just say one of the top EL players ever. Vspan, indeed, could be in consideration, but you also said top 3 PG in the world or top PG in the NBA.

[Oly BC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfbgGxDYRzk


Maga_1 might have pushed the memory away.

[Euroleague]

Exactly.

Vassilis is definitely one of the greatest Greek players ever (though I still think Diamantidis is better due to his defense, and would have translated better to the NBA had he so chosen because he would have accepted being a great role player).

His arrogance prevented him from achieving anything in the NBA. Sure, there were obstacles in his way... but there always are. He didn't do anything to overcome them. Didn't fight through it, just quit and went back to Europe.

Now, for those who overinterpret European stats, though...

Nikola Pekovic in Euroleague, 2010 (age: 24) 15 ppg, 3.5 rpg in 22 mpg
Nikola Pekovic in NBA, 2014 (age: 28): 17.5 ppg, 9 rpg in 30 mpg, arguably All-Star level center

Goran Dragic in Euroleague, 2008 (age 22): 10 ppg, 3 apg, 3 rpg in 27 mpg
Goran Dragic in NBA, 2014 (age 28): 20 ppg, 6 apg, 3 rpg in 35 mpg, All-Star snub

Marc Gasol in ACB (not Euroleague), 2008 (age: 23): 16 ppg, 8 rpg, 2.5 apg, 2 bpg in 33 mpg
Marc Gasol in NBA, 2012 (age: 28): 14.5 ppg, 9 rpg, 3 apg, 2 bpg in 36 mpg, All-Star selection

Marcin Gortat in Euroleague, 2007 (age: 22): 10 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1 bpg in 27 mpg
Marcin Gortat in NBA, 2012 (age: 27): 15 ppg, 10 rpg, 1.5 bpg in 32 mpg

Even Diamantidis himself went on Greek TV in an interview and when they asked him who the best Greek player was of all time he said it was Spanoulis. They asked him something like who is the best Greek player ever, you or Galis, something typical of Panathinaikos only fan bullshit.

He laughed for a second and just said Spanoulis and it is not even close. The interviewer looked all surprised but Diamantidis just said it without even hesitating. The guy asked him which Greek player could have the best NBA career of any Greek player ever (Galis, Giannakis, Antetokounmpo, Koufos, Calathes, himself, etc.) again he said Spanoulis and was no other player even in the discussion.

The interviewer was again confused and said the usual crap "he failed in NBA "blah blah blah. Diamantidis then explained to the IDIOT how he trained and practiced with Spanoulis every day for 4 years and how he is by far and away the most talented player he has ever seen and how in both Panathinaikos and the Greek national team all the other players were in awe of his talent and ability. And that in every game the other teams build the whole defense to stop him. And that he didn't care what one coach thought of him in the NBA and that he had no doubt he could be a star in the NBA any time he wanted to. Diamantidis just flat out even told the guy, "he is much better than I am".

Because he UNDERSTANDS that he NEVER sees a double team. He never faces a defense designed to stop him. But that's all Spanoulis ever goes up against. Diamantidis is able to grasp it, and what damage Spanoulis would do if he was allowed to simply play by himself like every other player.

And it's not just him either. Nick Galis was asked a couple years ago who he thought was the best Greek player Diamantidis or Spanoulis, and he said it was Spanoulis. He even said Spanoulis when they asked him if Spanoulis was at the level of him and Giannakis.....

He didn't say no even to that. He just said that he didn't want to say a bad thing for Giannakis or to say even anyone was better than him and admitted that, but he said he could not say it would be wrong if anyone says Spanoulis is better than them. He said he is the most serious and best professional player he has seen in Europe in the last 20-25 years.

Freaking Nick Galis said that. I take the opinions of guys like this over, random guys that watch Euroleague, "I still think Diamantidis is better because he could accept being a role player better".

That's just it........Spanoulis is NOT beta. Van Grumpy couldn't deal with that. His LOSS. He got fired because of it. Spanoulis is 100% APLHA all the way.

And NO, he's not accepting anything less than being the MAN if he comes to the NBA. He already said many times he made that mistake when he came to the Rockets and he knows next time he would never make the same mistake.

[Oly BC]

His arrogance prevented him from achieving anything in the NBA.
You mean his alphaness.

[dr.hee]

Even Diamantidis himself went on Greek TV in an interview and when they asked him who the best Greek player was of all time he said it was Spanoulis. They asked him something like who is the best Greek player ever, you or Galis, something typical of Panathinaikos only fan bullshit.

He laughed for a second and just said Spanoulis and it is not even close. The interviewer looked all surprised but Diamantidis just said it without even hesitating. The guy asked him which Greek player could have the best NBA career of any Greek player ever (Galis, Giannakis, Antetokounmpo, Koufos, Calathes, himself, etc.) again he said Spanoulis and was no other player even in the discussion.

The interviewer was again confused and said the usual crap "he failed in NBA "blah blah blah. Diamantidis then explained to the IDIOT how he trained and practiced with Spanoulis every day for 4 years and how he is by far and away the most talented player he has ever seen and how in both Panathinaikos and the Greek national team all the other players were in awe of his talent and ability. And that in every game the other teams build the whole defense to stop him. And that he didn't care what one coach thought of him in the NBA and that he had no doubt he could be a star in the NBA any time he wanted to. Diamantidis just flat out even told the guy, "he is much better than I am".

Because he UNDERSTANDS that he NEVER sees a double team. He never faces a defense designed to stop him. But that's all Spanoulis ever goes up against. Diamantidis is able to grasp it, and what damage Spanoulis would do if he was allowed to simply play by himself like every other player.

And it's not just him either. Nick Galis was asked a couple years ago who he thought was the best Greek player Diamantidis or Spanoulis, and he said it was Spanoulis. He even said Spanoulis when they asked him if Spanoulis was at the level of him and Giannakis.....

He didn't say no even to that. He just said that he didn't want to say a bad thing for Giannakis or to say even anyone was better than him and admitted that, but he said he could not say it would be wrong if anyone says Spanoulis is better than them. He said he is the most serious and best professional player he has seen in Europe in the last 20-25 years.

Freaking Nick Galis said that. I take the opinions of guys like this over, random guys that watch Euroleague, "I still think Diamantidis is better because he could accept being a role player better".

That's just it........Spanoulis is NOT beta. Van Grumpy couldn't deal with that. His LOSS. He got fired because of it. Spanoulis is 100% APLHA all the way.

And NO, he's not accepting anything less than being the MAN if he comes to the NBA. He already said many times he made that mistake when he came to the Rockets and he knows next time he would never make the same mistake.

Why are you making all that bullshit up?

:roll:

[BoutPractice]

I'm sure he has a source...

The reason I have Diamantidis over Spanoulis is not talent. Indubitably, Diamantidis is more of a "Pippen", a complementary piece.

His resume is technically better than Spanoulis, for what it's worth: 3 time Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, 4 time Euroleague First-Team, 6 time Euroleague best defender, 6 time Greek MVP ("rigged blablabla"), key role in European gold in 2005 (including all-tournament team) and world gold in 2006, all-decade Euroleague team vs 3 time Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, 2 time Euroleague First-Team, 2 time Greek MVP, negligible role in European gold in 2005, key role in world gold in 2006.

(Undoubtedly you will reply to this brief recap by drawing attention to a small mistake or inexact wording such as "Greek MVP")

But it's not even that. It's that, if I had to choose, I'd rather have Diamantidis as my best role player than Spanoulis as my leading star. I think you can do better than Spanoulis as your go-to-guy.

Serious question: if you replace Goran Dragic with Spanoulis on the Suns right now, how do you think he fares in comparison?

[Maga_1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfbgGxDYRzk


Maga_1 might have pushed the memory away.

Nice try, but i'm not a Real Madrid fan... i'm a Sergio Rodriguez's fan.

[ImKobe]

horrible

[Oly BC]

Nice try, but i'm not a Real Madrid fan... i'm a Sergio Rodriguez's fan.
So basically you're in love?

Will still do, iirc Sergio marked Spanoulis in that second half.

[dr.hee]

Serious question: if you replace Goran Dragic with Spanoulis on the Suns right now, how do you think he fares in comparison?

Roughly the same assists, more turnovers, less rebounds and points.

[Oly BC]

Roughly the same assists
:lol :lol :lol

Just that is a good enough reason to stop reading.

[Maga_1]

So basically you're in love?

Will still do, iirc Sergio marked Spanoulis in that second half.

So? We can't like any other player in the world besides Spanoulis? :roll:

[dunksby]

Damn 300 replies in less than 24 hours...

[Rooster]

So some wannabe is infatuated :facepalm with Sergio who was a NBA scrub.:oldlol:

And someone with extra:oldlol: chromosome nut hugging VSpan and he was NBA reject:oldlol:

Carry on.:banana:

[Nastradamus]

So has anyone figured out why Euroleague posted this guy's incredibly average stats?

[Maga_1]

So some wannabe is infatuated :facepalm with Sergio who was a NBA scrub.:oldlol:

And someone with extra:oldlol: chromosome nut hugging VSpan and he was NBA reject:oldlol:

Carry on.:banana:

And someone pretends to don't like "outside of NBA" basketball but he watches international competiotins, european domestic competitions and do researches about players that he supposedly don't care.

Carry on :banana:

[Inferno]

Curry literally averaged around 9 times the points and assists per game Spanoulis averaged in his prime in the NBA :oldlol:

:roll:

[Euroleague]

You're lying again.

You didn't just say one of the top EL players ever. Vspan, indeed, could be in consideration, but you also said top 3 PG in the world or top PG in the NBA.

I never said him or Maga said that IDIOT. I said that Oly and Marlo agreed with that.

WTF???????

LEARN TO READ.

A 5 year old has better reading skills than you.

[dr.hee]

In never said him or Maga said that IDIOT. I said that Oly and Marlo agreed with that.

WTF???????

LEARN TO READ.

A 5 year old has better reading skills than you.



marlo
Fiba
Maga

That's all I can think of right now, but several other posters here as well. It's just that their user names are escaping me right now.

You have posted in probably 2-3 dozen threads where these and other posters also told you this. AGAIN proving what a lying SOB you are.

:oldlol:

[Euroleague]

I'm sure he has a source...

The reason I have Diamantidis over Spanoulis is not talent. Indubitably, Diamantidis is more of a "Pippen", a complementary piece.

His resume is technically better than Spanoulis, for what it's worth: 3 time Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, 4 time Euroleague First-Team, 6 time Euroleague best defender, 6 time Greek MVP ("rigged blablabla"), key role in European gold in 2005 (including all-tournament team) and world gold in 2006, all-decade Euroleague team vs 3 time Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, 2 time Euroleague First-Team, 2 time Greek MVP, negligible role in European gold in 2005, key role in world gold in 2006.

(Undoubtedly you will reply to this brief recap by drawing attention to a small mistake or inexact wording such as "Greek MVP")

But it's not even that. It's that, if I had to choose, I'd rather have Diamantidis as my best role player than Spanoulis as my leading star. I think you can do better than Spanoulis as your go-to-guy.

Serious question: if you replace Goran Dragic with Spanoulis on the Suns right now, how do you think he fares in comparison?

Anyone that would take what you are arguing as Pippen (Diamantidis) over what is Kobe (Spanoulis) is a moron.

End of discussion.

[dr.hee]

Anyone that would take what you are arguing as Pippen (Diamantidis) over what is Kobe (Spanoulis) is a moron.

End of discussion.

Kobe never averaged this in the NBA though...

http://s14.directupload.net/images/140819/ij2e7547.png


Here's another Kobe for ya :cheers:

http://s14.directupload.net/images/140819/3jdr4wzr.png


Are they clones? Siblings? Both trash?

[Euroleague]

So? We can't like any other player in the world besides Spanoulis? :roll:

Maga....you know I know Euroleague. I know that you know it also. We also both know I am not a troll and these NBA only fans just say I am and like to troll me because it is just something they get off on.

OK........seriously, Spanoulis is just top 3 in Europe?

Who the hell are the two players better than him? And please god don't say Rudy, because we both know that while he's a great all around player, he's just like a super role player. He's not a leader by any means. Which is why his team has problems finishing titles.

He's a great all around player, but he's not a leader, first option, go to scorer.......he can't lead a team or be a guy that takes over a game on offense. You should know that. So please don't tell me you think he's better than Spanoulis that runs the whole offense, is the biggest threat to score, to beat you with the pass, to control the game on offense, to beat you with pick and roll, and that is also being double teamed.

Really........who are the 2 players you think are better? I absolutely cannot think of ANYONE in Europe that is as good as him. I'm just being straight honest with you.

So tell me the 2 players you think are better, and show me how basketball wise that could be. Considering how Spanoulis is 50% of any team he is on, plus how he distorts the game with the double teams and all of that.

You saw how he almost beat Real Madrid in a 5 game series playing injured without home court, basically just off that. Just off that he causes so much disruption. They don't double...he will beat them by himself. They do double, then the rest of the team starts doing damage, etc.

Can you really name 2 other players in Europe that cause this same impact or more?

[dr.hee]

Maga....you know I know Euroleague. I know that you know it also. We also both know I am not a troll and these NBA only fans just say I am and like to troll me because it is just something they get off on.

OK........seriously, Spanoulis is just top 3 in Europe?

Who the hell are the two players better than him? And please god don't say Rudy.

We don't even need to troll you...VSpan did a great job trolling himself in the NBA on his own. No need to exaggerate or make shit up like you do. His real life NBA stats are too shitty to be true :oldlol:

[stalkerforlife]

The European league seems extra political, even worse than the USA. It seems as though at times, they hinder some and boost others.

It's all about opportunity and unfortunately, lots of good players never get it.

[Euroleague]

So some wannabe is infatuated :facepalm with Sergio who was a NBA scrub.:oldlol:

And someone with extra:oldlol: chromosome nut hugging VSpan and he was NBA reject:oldlol:

Carry on.:banana:

Rodriguez was in the rotation of NBA teams for 4 years. That means he was not a scrub. You don't even know what a scrub is.

You are about nearing the time for another long ban.

[dr.hee]

Rodriguez was in the rotation of NBA teams for 4 years. That means he was not a scrub. You don't even know what a scrub is.

You are about nearing the time for another long ban.

http://basketball.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/wiretap/photos/2006/Spanoulis_Vassilis_hou_061205.jpg

[Euroleague]

:oldlol:

LEARN TO READ.

You must be HOOKED ON PHONICS

[outbreak]

The European league seems extra political, even worse than the USA. It seems as though at times, they hinder some and boost others.

It's all about opportunity and unfortunately, lots of good players never get it.
95% of games are rigged by the mafia and refs too according to Euroleague.

[Euroleague]

The European league seems extra political, even worse than the USA. It seems as though at times, they hinder some and boost others.

It's all about opportunity and unfortunately, lots of good players never get it.

And this guy just won the biggest jackass award.

[Euroleague]

95% of games are rigged by the mafia and refs too according to Euroleague.

Read Dante's Inferno. That is, if you even have a soul.

[outbreak]

Read Dante's Inferno. That is, if you even have a soul.
google euroleague rigged insidehoops and you find numerous posts from yourself claiming games are rigged all the time :roll: conveniently you always single out the games where players\teams\countries you like did poorly. I wonder why....

[Euroleague]

google euroleague rigged insidehoops and you find numerous posts from yourself claiming games are rigged all the time :roll: conveniently you always single out the games where players\teams\countries you like did poorly. I wonder why....

Right, in other words, no soul.

[outbreak]

Right, in other words, no soul.
in other words you're a class A wanker.

[JUDGE WITNESS]

who cares about what stats he put up in a league thats below the d-league