Whose better right now: Kevin Durant or Lebron James?

[BigBoss]

Whose the better basketball player entering the 14-15 season?

[Fudge]

Kevin James

[KirbyPls]

The guy who was the best player in the entire playoffs when it actually matters and didn't get outplayed by his own teammate, so Lebron.

[KirbyPls]

Kevin James

Love the new avy pleighboiiii!

[Marchesk]

The guy who was the best player in the entire playoffs when it actually matters and didn't get outplayed by his own teammate, so Lebron.

Kevin didn't get outplayed by Kawhi though.

[KirbyPls]

Kevin didn't get outplayed by Kwai though.

Forget to look at the stats did we? Pretty surprising coming from Wilt's publicist.

[MP.Trey]

Kevin James
:roll: Cracked me up way more than it should have.

And honestly, it's the closest it's ever been, but I don't want to cheat and say it's a tie so I'll go with the one with the championship experience. It's really a:

1a. LeBron
1b. Durant

type thing though.

[Mr Exlax]

I'll say LeBron because he still dominates them in the head to head games.

[GODbe]

It's still Durant easily.

[3ball]

Durant is still on the ascent with a lot of capacity to improve while Lebron is not.

Even without ANY post game whatsoever, Durant already passed up Lebron statistically last season.

Once he gets a post game to go along with go-to scoring moves out of a pre-dribble stationary position (triple threat position), so he can dominate against the tightest of defenses like Dirk and Bird did, and so he can't be exploited by guys like cp3 and Bellinelli guarding him - then he will REALLY show separation from Lebron.

[KirbyPls]

Durant is still on the ascent with a lot of capacity to improve while Lebron is not.

Even without ANY post game whatsoever, Durant already passed up Lebron statistically last season.

Once he gets a post game to go along with go-to scoring moves out of a pre-dribble stationary position (triple threat position), so he can dominate against the tightest of defenses like Dirk and Bird did, and so he can't be exploited by guys like cp3 and Bellinelli guarding him - then he will REALLY show separation from Lebron.

Or maybe when Durant plays to his regular-season standards in the playoffs? :confusedshrug: Oh yeah, he was tired from all the regular season minutes. :lol

[Cocaine80s]

Durant is still on the ascent with a lot of capacity to improve while Lebron is not.

Even without ANY post game whatsoever, Durant already passed up Lebron statistically last season.

Once he gets a post game to go along with go-to scoring moves out of a pre-dribble stationary position (triple threat position), so he can dominate against the tightest of defenses like Dirk and Bird did, and so he can't be exploited by guys like cp3 and Bellinelli guarding him - then he will REALLY show separation from Lebron.
durant will never get a post game

[3ball]

Or maybe when Durant plays to his regular-season standards in the playoffs? :confusedshrug: Oh yeah, he was tired from all the regular season minutes. :lol
This is very true.... part of the reason he struggled at times in the 2014 playoffs is because defenses play much harder and scheme better, so they don't allow the same type of buckets in the postseason -

For Durant, this would be any long dribbling foray and open shots off screens - in the playoffs, these ways in which Durant likes to score get shut down more often once a defense is playing really hard.

This is why when the defense takes these things away, he has to be able to dominate a game from the block with post moves and a killer turnaround jumper, like all the other greats.

[russwest0]

Durant averaged 30/10 in the playoffs vs the Grizzlies/Clippers/Spurs. Don't tell LeBron stans that though, LeBron who, cramped up, gassed out, sat the final 8 minutes of the final game, had more turnovers than assists, and got outplayed by Kawhi Leonard, was apparently some sort of monster in the playoffs. :lol

But no, Durant who dropped 40 on the Clippers one game, and 39/16 in the elimination, and who SLAYED the Grizzlies in both elimination games.... and led the playoffs in scoring despite not even making the Finals.... Yeah... That Durant apparently got "shut down."

LeBron stans are so deluded it's really just comedy at this point. Durant was easily the best player in the NBA last season and LeBron's peak was 2 years ago. If that somehow gives you a reason to believe that Durant won't be the best player in the NBA next season, then go ahead. Just don't expect not to get laughed at.

[Smoke117]

Lebron James.

[Rameek]

durant will never get a post game
Not as long as they put guys on him under 6'5":eek:

[Rodmantheman]

Lebron

[Trollsmasher]

Durant with that record PER and WS/48 dropoff in the playoffs:lol

Have we ever have an MVP who needed to be saved in the 1st round by a bench player?

[russwest0]

Durant with that record PER and WS/48 dropoff in the playoffs:lol

Have we ever have an MVP who needed to be saved in the 1st round by a bench player?

Put Durant in the East and his playoffs PER and WS/48 would have been some GOAT level shit...

Out in the West he had to face a true contender in every single round. Meanwhile we saw what LeBron did as soon as he met his first true contender in the playoffs:

http://ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/855832237.gif

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lebron-james-udonis-haslem.jpg

[raprap]

Still lebron james.

[Trollsmasher]

Put Durant in the East and his playoffs PER and WS/48 would have been some GOAT level shit...

Out in the West he had to face a true contender in every single round. Meanwhile we saw what LeBron did as soon as he met his first true contender in the playoffs:

http://ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/855832237.gif

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lebron-james-udonis-haslem.jpg
Memphis and Clippers are now contenders:lol

no scoring Memphis and no D Clippers:lol

[russwest0]

Memphis and Clippers are now contenders:lol

no scoring Memphis and no D Clippers:lol

The Grizzlies won 50 games in the West despite dealing with injury problems all year. When healthy they had one of the best records in the league. And they also did great vs the other contenders in the regular season.

And no, the team that got the 3rd best record in the NBA last season, despite having their own injury issues as well, they aren't a contender... :facepalm

This is why we call you LeBron stans deluded.

[Rodmantheman]

:no: Russwest0 you're boy is 0/1

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m603fgFBua1qabwaco1_500.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[russwest0]

:no: Russwest0 you're boy is 0/1

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m603fgFBua1qabwaco1_500.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Yes, Durant in his only finals at age 23 played better than LeBron has in 4 of his finals appearances :roll: :roll: :roll:

There is a hope that the current best player on the planet won't be an overhyped 2/5 man :lol

[raprap]

Russwest embarrassing himself again. :lol gtfo of here fckboy

[Rodmantheman]

Yes, Durant in his only finals at age 23 played better than LeBron has in 4 of his finals appearances :roll: :roll: :roll:

There is a hope that the current best player on the planet won't be an overhyped 2/5 man :lol

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m603fgFBua1qabwaco1_500.gif

[Trollsmasher]

Yes, Durant in his only finals at age 23 played better than LeBron has in 4 of his finals appearances :roll: :roll: :roll:

There is a hope that the current best player on the planet won't be an overhyped 2/5 man :lol
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[red1]

russwest desperate like usual. :oldlol: for ****s sake just give it up

[russwest0]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Desperate for what?

Durant outplayed everyone last season, and now you call him the best and they post the same gif over and over until they think it's enough to somehow prove that they are right :roll: :roll: :roll:

I get a kick out of it, really. They have no argument so they resort to the ol' faithful :oldlol:

[DaSeba5]

I don't see how Durant is 1A and 1B with LeBron. I don't see any reason to take Durant over him besides age.

[russwest0]

I don't see how Durant is 1A and 1B with LeBron. I don't see any reason to take Durant over him besides age.

Or maybe because of the fact that he outplayed LeBron last season, with a worst supporting cast in in a tougher conference.

[red1]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Desperate for what?

Durant outplayed everyone last season, and now you call him the best and they post the same gif over and over until they think it's enough to somehow prove that they are right :roll: :roll: :roll:

I get a kick out of it, really. They have no argument so they resort to the ol' faithful :oldlol:
http://cdn.meme.li/instances/500x/53635536.jpg

[DaSeba5]

Or maybe because of the fact that he outplayed LeBron last season, with a worst supporting cast in in a tougher conference.

Our supporting cast was terrible last year, but LeBron did take it easier last year especially on defense. That doesn't mean anything though. Just because Durant outplayed him doesn't mean he's better. LeBron just took it easy in the regular season; he's still better than Durant.

[Bigsmoke]

LBJ da best

[SCdac]

I love Durant, but give me Lebron. KD still gets pushed around too much and resorts to shooting three pointers too often. No legitimate reason for KD's free throw percentage to drop to .77% against Memphis and .76% against the Spurs except for succumbing to pressure and nerves.

[russwest0]

Our supporting cast was terrible last year, but LeBron did take it easier last year especially on defense. That doesn't mean anything though. Just because Durant outplayed him doesn't mean he's better. LeBron just took it easy in the regular season; he's still better than Durant.

So next season once Durant plays better than LeBron again, LeBron is still better, he's just taking it easy?

FUKK, it all makes sense now!!!!

[K Xerxes]

The Servant isn't the best player in the game until he conquers his demons in the playoffs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmcBi9OCIAEsjFF.jpg

[russwest0]

The Servant isn't the best player in the game until he conquers his demons in the playoffs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmcBi9OCIAEsjFF.jpg

So demolishing the Grizzlies in games 6 and 7 never happened....

:facepalm

[red1]

So next season once Durant plays better than LeBron again, LeBron is still better, he's just taking it easy?

FUKK, it all makes sense now!!!!
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/64/646a1de96d4394206f0ea92e33607ff128862cc45047a334d9 ef79964277d567.jpg

[russwest0]

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/64/646a1de96d4394206f0ea92e33607ff128862cc45047a334d9 ef79964277d567.jpg

I really hope you aren't wasting your time to make these pointless memes :oldlol:

[DaSeba5]

So next season once Durant plays better than LeBron again, LeBron is still better, he's just taking it easy?

FUKK, it all makes sense now!!!!

You saw how awful Durant was in the playoffs. LeBron clearly took it easy. I watched basically every Heat game, LeBron took it easy. And before you say the East is weak, Durant got shut down by some flaws in his game. He needs a post game and to get stronger. I'd still take LeBron right now. He's more of a complete player, but Durant will probably be the best in a year or two.

[Trollsmasher]

The Servant isn't the best player in the game until he conquers his demons in the playoffs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmcBi9OCIAEsjFF.jpg
:lol

So demolishing the Grizzlies in games 6 and 7 never happened....
Durant's playoffs really became meaningless after the Reggie Jackson Game.

[red1]

I really hope you aren't wasting your time to make these pointless memes :oldlol:
good deflection. another tactic frequently used by the desperate :pimp:

[russwest0]

You saw how awful Durant was in the playoffs. LeBron clearly took it easy. I watched basically every Heat game, LeBron took it easy. And before you say the East is weak, Durant got shut down by some flaws in his game. He needs a post game and to get stronger. I'd still take LeBron right now. He's more of a complete player, but Durant will probably be the best in a year or two.

This is the difference between Durant and Bran.

Durant puts up 30/9/4 vs three contenders in the playoffs, and now that's "awful."

LeBron plays like shit and the story is "he needs more help!"

Durant outplays LeBron all season long and now, "LeBron took it easy."

But switch the roles with LeMediaDarling outplaying Durant all year, and "Durant won't be the best until he proves it with his play..."

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Hoopz2332]

Lebron w/o question



The only thing Durant did better this season was shoot more and get to the Ft line to pad those offensive numbers.:lol

Durant had to take 3 more shots and almost 3 more Ft's per game to avg 5 more points whereas lebron gets buckets without be heavily reliant on Ft's

http://i.imgur.com/G9zsoln.png



lebron also shot over a whopping .060% points better:eek:


Lebron also had a higher Ts%, rebounding and ast rates

http://i.imgur.com/Mi94DZU.png

so no, Durant doesn't rebound better than lebron.

[russwest0]

good deflection. another tactic frequently used by the desperate :pimp:

Not depserate in the slightest. It's easy to beat all of the LeBron stans in here because they have zero consistency with the logic they use in their arguments :cheers:

[Hoopz2332]

Durant puts up 30/9/4 vs three contenders in the playoffs, and now that's "awful."




on sh1tty eff, high volume and tons of mins. Durants and LBj's playoff PERs speak for themselves

Durant played almost 5 more mins and 5 more shots on avg but and a whopping .105 % points less

http://i.imgur.com/19bUgOz.png


lebron's adv numbers in the playoffs sh1t all over Durants and that's including the Pacers game where Lebron fouled out/hardly played and brought his avgs/adv metrics down!

http://i.imgur.com/lfp4XXQ.png


LBJ the god:bowdown: :lebronamazed:

[russwest0]

So Durant played more minutes and scored more vs tougher competition, but Bran was more efficient vs far weaker competition....

This means what, exactly? You're a fool if you don't think Durant's efficiency would have gone up had he been switched to the East.

[Hoopz2332]

So Durant played more minutes and scored more vs tougher competition, but Bran was more efficient vs far weaker competition....

Lebron faced better D


This means what, exactly? You're a fool if you don't think Durant's efficiency would have gone up had he been switched to the East.

he would have struggled vs Bobcats :lol

http://i.imgur.com/hH6wXmS.png

[russwest0]

he (Durant) would have struggled vs Bobcats

:facepalm

[Fudge]

My niga russwest holding his own in a thread again. :oldlol: Y'all can't take him down.

[Rodmantheman]

My niga russwest holding his own in a thread again. :oldlol: Y'all can't take him down.

http://i.imgur.com/AsyhR.jpg

[JT123]

russ getting ethered as per usual. :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Hoopz2332]

:facepalm


http://i.imgur.com/hH6wXmS.png

March 2, 2014 Thunder vs Bobcats

Durant


http://i.imgur.com/LaPPgQh.png



...the next night.....



March 3, 2014 Heat vs Bobcats



http://i.imgur.com/cJPET1I.png


:cheers: :rockon:

[JohnFreeman]

LeBron

[knickswoman]

well this is the same as bran vs Jordan or miller vs ai. Idiots thinks its close due to stats but it really not close career/impact wise. Even cp3 impacts the game more than bran.

[KG215]

russ getting ethered as per usual. :lol :lol :lol :lol
JT posting something about someone getting ethered because he's not intelligent or creative enough to come up with his own arguments...as per usual.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Heavincent]

Bran

[Trollsmasher]

Damn, Durant is lucky that he did not have to face the Bobcats in the 1st round. I am not sure Reggie would've had one more G4 in him.

[russwest0]

http://i.imgur.com/cJPET1I.png


:cheers: :rockon:

:biggums: :wtf: Why did LeBron play over 10 minutes more than any of his teammates vs the Bobcats?

I thought he wasn't trying in the regular season last year, hence the reason why Durant was better...?

[Dragic4Life]

Lebron James.

[JohnFreeman]

Everyone knows Durant struggles against real defense or when the whistle isn't blowing. NBA made star.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Lebron

[moe94]

Kevin didn't get outplayed by Kawhi though.

Kawai outplayed LeBron? :oldlol:

[IMObjective]

Don't be so hard on russwest, it's not crazy to think there's a decent chance Durant will be the better player next season, it's scary how much he improves every year. Maybe even Westbrook will overtake bran :oldlol:


If not next year, then definitely the year after that.

[retaxis]

The guy who gives u more options which is lbj. He and Durant both can score in a variety of ways but lebron can seal a smaller defender, body them up and spin past with a bump to finish.

[Milbuck]

Don't be so hard on russwest, it's not crazy to think there's a decent chance Durant will be the better player next season, it's scary how much he improves every year. Maybe even Westbrook will overtake bran :oldlol:


If not next year, then definitely the year after that.
This...Lebron has earned the right to be called the best in the world..but people are too quick to dismiss the fact that KD was outplaying Lebron for a huge chunk of the season. Dude put up 35/7/6/1/1 on 65% TS over 3 months, with a month of 36/7/6/2/1 on 68% TS..And his team was winning, a large part of it without Westbrook.

Lebron is better right now, which is what the thread asks for. But if we're projecting into next year, it's really not that clear-cut. If Durant improves his post game and increases his intensity on defense..anything can happen.