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Purch
08-22-2014, 04:44 PM
I was just thinking about this, Kevin Love seems very similar to Boozer with more range

Both undersized

Both are weak interior defenders, and give inconsistent effort on that end of the floor.

Boozer was a good passer, Love is a great one

Boozer was a great rebounder (who sometimes gives up on D to get boards), Love is an elite rebounder (who sometimes gives up on D to get boards)

Both have a decent post game, Love's is better

Both shoot the ball well.., Boozer better from mid range, Love better from 3

Both love to Pick and Pop when they play the pick and roll(Love more of a threat).


I mean correct me if I'm wrong but Love seems like Prime Boozer 2.0.. Rich mans addition

stalkerforlife
08-22-2014, 04:51 PM
True...so far.

SpanishACB
08-22-2014, 05:16 PM
Boozer appears to have more heart, even though sometimes it doesn't really translate to playing with heart.

Dbrog
08-22-2014, 05:20 PM
Not really similar games at all IMO. Love is basically a rich mans Jerry Lucas (whos actually at the end of my top50 ever). If love sees some success, he gets there :D

Kblaze8855
08-22-2014, 05:23 PM
Yea Kevin Love is Jerry Lucas minus the mutant mental powers.

Boozer wasnt all that similar.

oarabbus
08-22-2014, 06:02 PM
Yeah Love is the rich mans Boozer for sure, aside from the fact their playstyle is not even remotely similar

dreamwarrior
08-22-2014, 06:04 PM
I don't know if you saw peak Boozer play but he was better than Love.

RedBlackAttack
08-22-2014, 06:06 PM
I don't know if you saw peak Boozer play but he was better than Love.
No, he most certainly was not.

oarabbus
08-22-2014, 06:10 PM
I don't know if you saw peak Boozer play but he was better than Love.

He was no where near the player Kevin Love is at his peak...

Purch
08-22-2014, 06:34 PM
I don't know if you saw peak Boozer play but he was better than Love.
You replace boozer with Love, and I think that puts Utah over the top.

MiseryCityTexas
08-22-2014, 06:42 PM
No Love's more like a billionaire version of Christian Laettner.

RoundMoundOfReb
08-22-2014, 07:59 PM
false

JimmyMcAdocious
08-22-2014, 08:00 PM
Love is a rich man version of some other white post player.

The_Yearning
08-22-2014, 08:24 PM
Kevin Love is the Jerry Stackhouse of power forwards... 0 impact whatsoever.

La Frescobaldi
08-22-2014, 08:25 PM
what a lousy thread off a good idea.

Hoopz2332
08-22-2014, 08:59 PM
Somewhat true but Boozer had better athleticism and Love has more range and better passing.

bizil
08-22-2014, 09:57 PM
Yea Kevin Love is Jerry Lucas minus the mutant mental powers.

Boozer wasnt all that similar.

I agree! Love game is most similar to Lucas. A stretch PF who's very physical under the rack and can lead the L in boards. And Love is also one of the the top tier passing big men in the world too. Some people say Love is like Dirk, which is totally wrong. Dirk is a stretch PF with the handles and skillset of a swingman in a 7 foot body. Dirk is like McAdoo offensively, but with the new age 3 point range. Bob was more very deep midrange shots and slashing to the cup like a swingman, which is very similar to Dirk in that sense.

But on the flip side, Bob was a better defender and rebounder than Dirk. But I would say Dirk, Bob, Love, and Lucas are the most effective stretch type of PF's ever! Lucas needs more credit for bringing that to the table for the physical hard hat kind of PF. And McAdoo needs the love for being a big man with the scoring skillset of an elite swingman.

La Frescobaldi
08-23-2014, 08:19 AM
I agree! Love game is most similar to Lucas. A stretch PF who's very physical under the rack and can lead the L in boards. And Love is also one of the the top tier passing big men in the world too. Some people say Love is like Dirk, which is totally wrong. Dirk is a stretch PF with the handles and skillset of a swingman in a 7 foot body. Dirk is like McAdoo offensively, but with the new age 3 point range. Bob was more very deep midrange shots and slashing to the cup like a swingman, which is very similar to Dirk in that sense.

But on the flip side, Bob was a better defender and rebounder than Dirk. But I would say Dirk, Bob, Love, and Lucas are the most effective stretch type of PF's ever! Lucas needs more credit for bringing that to the table for the physical hard hat kind of PF. And McAdoo needs the love for being a big man with the scoring skillset of an elite swingman.

Duncan has played a lot of 4 over his career too

ImKobe
08-23-2014, 08:29 AM
Let's see what Love does without Adelman. Boozer sucked after leaving Sloan.

Shep
08-23-2014, 08:46 AM
Boozer in '07 was better than Love has ever been

Nikola_
08-23-2014, 10:21 AM
You cant compare white and black players OP !!!1

BoutPractice
08-23-2014, 10:42 AM
Stretching the floor from 3 is more valuable than stretching the floor from 2, and makes you a different player stylistically. (Yes, Dirk who is more valuable than both was more of a midrange scorer in his best years, but he was always a clear threat from 3.)

Kevin Love is also slightly better as a rebounder, and a better passer and outlet passer, while his defense is comparable.

NBASTATMAN
08-23-2014, 01:26 PM
You replace boozer with Love, and I think that puts Utah over the top.


Over top of the what? Boozer was always a high percentage shooter and bad defender.. Love is a volume scorer with terrible defense.. Neither takes UTAH over the TOP... Both have no heart.. With love they would have been softer... Love has talent and is a all star level player but he doesn't play winning basketball....

yeaaaman
08-23-2014, 01:47 PM
I don't know but I do know there was a time when Carlos Boozer put up 35, 14 and 5 in a game 7 closeout game, on the road.

Lets see how Love does in the playoffs.

Purch
08-23-2014, 01:53 PM
Over top of the what? Boozer was always a high percentage shooter and bad defender.. Love is a volume scorer with terrible defense.. Neither takes UTAH over the TOP... Both have no heart.. With love they would have been softer... Love has talent and is a all star level player but he doesn't play winning basketball....
I'm a Jazz fan, please don't make me get into a rant about a Boozer's stint on the Jazz. I have had serveral rants about him as a player.

But what I meant by over the top is , maybe on the level of the modern day clippers.

bizil
08-23-2014, 03:49 PM
Duncan has played a lot of 4 over his career too

I'm aware of that! He's the greatest PF of all time! But I don't understand the point u are trying to make. Duncan, while he's great from midrange, is the best PF ever on the block. He focuses on dominating down there more than midrange. Duncan redefined the PF spot because it was like a dominant center moving to PF. But Duncan also had the versatility of the new age PF.

But Duncan wasn't a stretch kind of PF like Dirk, McAdoo, Lucas, or Love. Those guys in my book catered to that style more than Duncan did. IN FACT I think that's what those guys relied on more. Which is the deep midrange and even three ball. Duncan was more postup dominance, but was also awesome from midrange. He wasn't really a swingman in a PF's body kind of player like a Dirk or McAdoo.

SCdac
08-23-2014, 04:30 PM
In terms of rebounding, Love reminds me of a Reggie Evans or DeJuan Blair type (when he was having some 20-rebound games in SA). Shorter big men, but were like magnets for rebounds. That's their bread and butter. Offensively, Kevin Love is so jump shot heavy and shoots the same amount of three's as a shooting guard (too many if you ask me), but can also do work and get a shot off in the paint. Had some big games against Dirk's Mavs last season. Defensively Love is weak. I've been to a couple Spurs-Wolves games in person and seen too many players, swingmen and bigmen alike, blow by him or go up for a layup/dunk in his presence with relative ease. Having said that, he'll really benefit from playing with Lebron as nearly every player does. Should take alot of pressure of Love and he can keep being a great hustle player, rebounder, and scorer.

Tking714
08-23-2014, 04:45 PM
Kevin Love is 1000x more similar to Mehmet Okur. You were close. Both played on the Jazz in their primes. Boozer plays more like Griffin and Stoudemire, pick and roll occasional pop.

no pun intended
08-23-2014, 04:52 PM
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La Frescobaldi
08-23-2014, 06:24 PM
I'm aware of that! He's the greatest PF of all time! But I don't understand the point u are trying to make. Duncan, while he's great from midrange, is the best PF ever on the block. He focuses on dominating down there more than midrange. Duncan redefined the PF spot because it was like a dominant center moving to PF. But Duncan also had the versatility of the new age PF.

But Duncan wasn't a stretch kind of PF like Dirk, McAdoo, Lucas, or Love. Those guys in my book catered to that style more than Duncan did. IN FACT I think that's what those guys relied on more. Which is the deep midrange and even three ball. Duncan was more postup dominance, but was also awesome from midrange. He wasn't really a swingman in a PF's body kind of player like a Dirk or McAdoo.

TD = $$ from 15 feet on the whole circle baseline to free throw line to baseline.

The fact that he has been the greatest 4 in history down low doesn't change the fact that he has also been one of the greatest stretch 4s in history as well.

We ain't even disagreeing though - I was just adding Timmy to your list

bizil
08-23-2014, 06:34 PM
TD = $$ from 15 feet on the whole circle baseline to free throw line to baseline.

The fact that he has been the greatest 4 in history down low doesn't change the fact that he has also been one of the greatest stretch 4s in history as well.

We ain't even disagreeing though - I was just adding Timmy to your list

I agree with u too! But to me, stylistically Timmy isn't a stretch PF. Timmy is first a back to the basket dominant big man. Who can also go midrange and do damage. Dirk, Love, McAdoo, and Lucas were guys who looked to FACEUP first to dominate. And they would do it a lot from 18 foot and farther. None of those guys were dominant back to the basket players. Stylistically, they were TRUE STRETCH PF's.

To me, a stretch PF has to be a guy who does major damage from at least 18 feet and out. U know in those deep midrange areas even extending to three ball land. Love and Dirk are kind of on their own level because they REALLY exploit that three ball. U could also consider Bosh a stretch kind of PF lately. Also peak KG I would put in that group to.