this is what we should be thinking

[RidonKs]

i have a very complicated mind. even i don't understand how it works and why it does what it does. it's very mysterious.

if it's mysterious for me and i actually experience it instant by instant, it must be virtually mind-boggling for other people i interact with who only get thin slices of what i really am through my impressive but nevertheless limited capacity to communicate.

therefore, in our interactions with others we should be as generous in interpretation and action as possible, while maintaining our safety, if not our economic prosperity.

sidenote: i happen to believe economic prosperity is largely tied to moral behaviour. i don't submit to have good enough or quantitatively enough data to demonstrate that fact

the data we can glean from interacting with and reading about and experiencing virtually all the people we meet is actually extremely biased in a very selective way. the idea that we design portraits of ourselves to show off to the people we know is practically self-evident if you're a human being.

these facts lead to the conclusion that our action must be extremely cautious, particularly when it comes to violence, so as not to act on invalid premises to the eventuality of unintended, unpredictable, and destructive consequences.

this argument can be applied to all scopes of human coordination and interdependence, from the family unit to the state government and everything in between. and it's very convincing.

i want feedback. is this valid? what am i missing?

[ZeN]

Accurate but idealistic.

[RidonKs]

forget idealistic. we should be asking ourselves if it's unrealistic. i don't think it is and i think history is an easy indicator to back up the claim that approximating this line of thinking is absolutely realistic.

[Suguru101]

Sometimes, one doesn't understand their own behavior because one hasn't learned how to interpret/analyze/deconstruct the feelings, actions and thoughts of a human being.

Get into psychology, it will help you understand yourself better even though trying to analyze your behavior and feelings is much harder than to analyze other people's.

Other people do present a portrait of themselves, and it's not even consciously done most of the time. The people you are with, the place, what has happened leading up to that moment... you showcase a version of yourself in one moment that may only reflect a small percentage of who you truly are.

But even in the right circumstances(alone, o with one person who you don't have to lie to), you may only be able to show a full percentage of a version of who you are(the intellectual you, the emotional you, the kid you, the base you...).

Behavior is one of the most fascinating subjects in the world, if only because you learn to recognize that you can never truly know someone even if they want to let you know them... but trying to do so anyways is inevitable.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Accurate but idealistic.
:wtf:

He didn't propose or hypothesize a course of action, he merely stated an theory of his which imo is also accurate.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Sometimes, one doesn't understand their own behavior because one hasn't learned how to interpret/analyze/deconstruct the feelings, actions and thoughts of a human being.

Get into psychology, it will help you understand yourself better even though trying to analyze your behavior and feelings is much harder than to analyze other people's.

Other people do present a portrait of themselves, and it's not even consciously done most of the time. The people you are with, the place, what has happened leading up to that moment... you showcase a version of yourself in one moment that may only reflect a small percentage of who you truly are.

But even in the right circumstances(alone, o with one person who you don't have to lie to), you may only be able to show a full percentage of a version of who you are(the intellectual you, the emotional you, the kid you, the base you...).

Behavior is one of the most fascinating subjects in the world, if only because you learn to recognize that you can never truly know someone even if they want to let you know them... but trying to do so anyways is inevitable.
:cheers: I love psychology, I took a few psych courses as electives in uni and probably will do so until I graduate. But Math will always be my true academic love.

[Suguru101]

:cheers: I love psychology, I took a few psych courses as electives in uni and probably will do so until I graduate. But Math will always be my true academic love.

:cheers:

Sociology is also very interesting, but there isn't as much depth to it.

I am so glad i only need Math for Liberal Arts to get my masters. Math man... though i see the appeal.

Literature is the GOAT.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

:cheers: I love psychology, I took a few psych courses as electives in uni and probably will do so until I graduate. But Math will always be my true academic love.

Math is my academic kryptonite :facepalm.

Psych was mad easy for me, I aced it. My class was at 8am, it was killer. And a few times, our teacher canceled it 30 minutes in. Thankfully that term, I had all my classes back to back, so I got to have a full breakfast until my next lecture. I used to fall asleep in class and overhear some girls gossiping about my hot neighbor. This was when I found out she wasn't single too :( and that her boyfriend (which I shared a class with) was cheating on her :mad:. Everyone knew but her :facepalm. And they are still dating since (this was 1.5 years ago) :confusedshrug:

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Math is my academic kryptonite :facepalm.

Psych was mad easy for me, I aced it. My class was at 8am, it was killer. And a few times, our teacher canceled it 30 minutes in. Thankfully that term, I had all my classes back to back, so I got to have a full breakfast until my next lecture. I used to fall asleep in class and overhear some girls gossiping about my hot neighbor. This was when I found out she wasn't single too :( and that her boyfriend (which I shared a class with) was cheating on her :mad:. Everyone knew but her :facepalm. And they are still dating since (this was 1.5 years ago) :confusedshrug:
I can see why a lot of ppl hate math. It's hard and frustrating as fvck. Pretty sure I spent more time studying in the library than my own room.

But still, I love the abstract nature of math and how it applies to virtually everything possible. Plus since it's challenging, it stimulates my mind, and when I succeed in it I feel great about it:pimp:

[Jailblazers7]

Learning math sucks but once you can apply it to the world around you it is pretty awesome.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Learning math sucks but once you can apply it to the world around you it is pretty awesome.
It depends. I hated it in highschool cuz it was all easy calculations (it can be hard at times, but it was boring), the only reason I put up with it is because I loved doing proofs which showed up in 1/30 questions in the textbook and 1/4 tests. Then in uni it went from simple 2-3 step problems to 20+ step questions and prove you're answer/equation is right using whatever theorems(rules)/math you've learned thus far, then I was like fvck yeah:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:. I had a few sh!t profs, but some where actually pretty cool and let's us know about what he's researching about and sh!t. It helps too that the TAs in some of my courses were hawt as fvck and some of my profs were certified MILFs.

[RidonKs]

Sometimes, one doesn't understand their own behavior because one hasn't learned how to interpret/analyze/deconstruct the feelings, actions and thoughts of a human being.

Get into psychology, it will help you understand yourself better even though trying to analyze your behavior and feelings is much harder than to analyze other people's.

Other people do present a portrait of themselves, and it's not even consciously done most of the time. The people you are with, the place, what has happened leading up to that moment... you showcase a version of yourself in one moment that may only reflect a small percentage of who you truly are.

But even in the right circumstances(alone, o with one person who you don't have to lie to), you may only be able to show a full percentage of a version of who you are(the intellectual you, the emotional you, the kid you, the base you...).

Behavior is one of the most fascinating subjects in the world, if only because you learn to recognize that you can never truly know someone even if they want to let you know them... but trying to do so anyways is inevitable.
therapy man. and i mean it in the broad sense of the word and the "see a therapist" sense. you need to improve how you experience the world. and at the same time you need to constrain yourself by recognizing your impulses may be misguided. a careful balance and it's understandable why something like psychoanalysis has stuck around for as long as it has in reasonably popular circles. of course for much of the same reason, scientology has had equal success.

[ZeN]

therapy man. and i mean it in the broad sense of the word and the "see a therapist" sense. you need to improve how you experience the world. and at the same time you need to constrain yourself by recognizing your impulses may be misguided. a careful balance and it's understandable why something like psychoanalysis has stuck around for as long as it has in reasonably popular circles. of course for much of the same reason, scientology has had equal success.
You could say the same thing about Zen.

[RidonKs]

You could say the same thing about Zen.
absolutely. i gotta start meditating and quick. yoga i think is the best idea. **** maybe hot yoga lol

[ZeN]

absolutely. i gotta start meditating and quick. yoga i think is the best idea. **** maybe hot yoga lol
Meditation. Lucid Dreaming. Tantric Sex.

Get to it!

[RidonKs]

this girl i'm messaging is intensely fascinated by dreams. lucid dreaming has always felt incredibly enticing to me but i don't think i've ever really done it -- i lie when i talk to people about this and pretend i've done it but i don't think i have.


i've been thinking about my dreaming lately. so it's funny you said you're good at it. i don't think i am. i used to remember really exotic and exciting dreams when i woke up. for the last two years, i rarely remember what i was dreaming about if i was dreaming at all. and when i do remember my dreams, they're extremely literal and boring. example: my mom just found out she has bedbugs probably from a trip she took south. the pest control guys didn't call her back to arrange an appointment. what i remembered of my dream a few nights ago was only my mom answering the phone and it being the pest control guys.

this was my opener. but i'm pretty weirded out by it all, how come i can't dream fun shit like everybody else. she recommended sitting with your eyes closed for ten minutes after you wake up. i might try that.

[ZeN]

You need to increase your awareness of reality so that when you dream you'll equal become aware of that reality.

[RidonKs]

yea something like that anyway

[Graviton]

Listening to Eckhart Tolle has really helped me with understanding and distinguishing "the real me" and "the portrait". There are multiple versions of them manifesting in your psyche. Always making you believe they are you, that's why you need to always ask yourself "Why?" every time you come to an important mental decision. Emotions morph your perception, when you are angry or scared, your views get twisted by the negative influences around you, either the media or other people in your life. You THINK you believe a certain concept, but when you revisit the issue with a clear mind you realize your own mistakes. Or even beliefs you had for years that you thought were set in stone and represented your persona perfectly, one day you suddenly wake up from that illusion. It is the power Ego has over you, I like to watch this video to remind myself. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOEF1aOCLaE)

[Graviton]

You need to increase your awareness of reality so that when you dream you'll equal become aware of that reality.
No lie, today (I guess technically yesterday) I had the greatest sleep of my life, when I awoke I felt more re-enegized than in years. I had a deep dream that felt like another reality, but I was somehow aware of it yet still thought it was real. I was in "Opposite world", I seemed to be in a 6-8th grade classroom. But instead of sitting behind each other, students sat in front of each other. I was staring at this girl ahead of me, her eyes were large spinning galaxies, for a moment I thought I was in a dream within a dream when I gazed into her eyes. Suddenly the teacher gave me a test paper that had an F on it, but I was a straight A/B student at that age, so I realized the F was actually an A in that reality.

When I went home I realized it was the home of my aunt instead of my home, I was living in the room of my cousins. Instead of a brother I had a sister, who I visited in an Insane Asylum. But in this world those places were for normal people who just hanged out there and had fun, it was like a chilling spot for teenagers. There are some other details I forgot like 20 minutes after waking up, but I made sure to remember the best parts.

It was honestly the most bizarre yet enjoyable experience I had in my sleep. I wish I could replicate that type of deep dream over and over, but I think dreams like those only come once every year or two. It was a certain feeling that I never had before, my mind was just in another plane of existence.

[RidonKs]

So what you're saying is, be nice, careful, and use forethought before acting?

Not exactly breaking ground there Donks.
not groundbreaking in understanding. certainly at least unconventional in action. what we do is what counts. and no matter how much and how hard we pledge to worship the sorts of principles i've been trying to lay out, it's how it influences our behaviour and most importantly our behaviour with other peolpe that will determine whether this stuff is really useful or not. but its also fun to think about.

[ILLsmak]

I think being kind is good. I have noticed a slightly selfish reason for being kind in my life because I've seen so many people do ridiculous things. If I am kind to them, though, I can say, "well, that's on them." If I can think of one wrong thing I did, I am like man it was my fault!

As for lucid dreaming, I dunno how hard it is. I know I posted this before, but you can do it by not letting yourself slip into dream state completely. Ease yourself into it. maybe it's easier for me because I'm v in tune with my imagination, but you need to start building a world of your imagination... and stay conscious a bit. You can end up other places, though... that are not exactly dream state. Sometimes bad nightmare places, but shit like that makes your dreams lucid, I think.

Almost every dream I have is lucid. Controlling dream world is much harder. My dreams are multi threaded, too, so I have awareness of my thoughts within dreams and how they may be wrong. If you wanna say... create a sheep for you to ride on, that shit is hard. It takes a lot of energy to do that and you may just wake up (or wake in to another layer, which is what happens to me a lot.)

I am skeptical that many people are able to just control their dreams (as in shape the world as it exists at that moment.) Very skeptical. To me, it's more like being on a movie set and realizing it's a movie then you can just walk off. But it's still bound by laws. Whenever the laws break, shit that is terrible happens. Or you can influence it before you go to bed or guide it while it's happening.

edit: like this http://howtolucid.com/are-you-really-controlling-your-dreams-when-youre-lucid/

-Smak

[Cactus-Sack]

So, op... You're having a manic episode yes? Or did you just discover acid?

[BigBoss]

Meditation. Lucid Dreaming. Tantric Sex.

Get to it!

Tantra :rockon: