Two more years untill Obama leaves office

[Rodmantheman]

Two years and a few months to me he wasn't that much different than Bush agree or disagree? Next election anyone but Hillary.:lol

[Smook A.]

Rand Paul for 2016

[Rodmantheman]

Rand Paul for 2016

His father was many times better than him very honest and smart man.

[MMM]

I'm curious why party politics plays such an effect on Presidential elections. Maybe that is a false premise to begin with but I find it odd considering Congress has more control in enacting party driven policies.

Leadership and tone should be more important over if the leader is Red or Blue. Also people need to be more active in election their congress/senate over just presidential elections

[ZeN]

Market crash in 2015. Obama Claims State of Emergency. Obama keeps himself in power.

[zoom17]

Market crash in 2015. Obama Claims State of Emergency. Obama keeps himself in power.

:biggums:

[D-FENS]

Two more years until Hilary lets Bill run from behind the scenes :applause:

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

So you're saying 2 more years before the next useless leader takes office?
Still waiting for this "Change" Obama kept mentioning in 2008.

[Droid101]

Rand Paul for 2016
:roll:

[SupermanOnSteroids]

at least he didn't run around starting dumb ass wars for no reason.

[Patrick Chewing]

:roll:


:sleeping

[masonanddixon]

Obama was an unmitigated disaster. If he could have gotten the PAYE system right he could have perhaps salvaged his legacy but even that he managed to bungle.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Obama was an unmitigated disaster. If he could have gotten the PAYE system right he could have perhaps salvaged his legacy but even that he managed to bungle.

10 million private sector jobs created in 53 months (a record) following the Great Recession is actually quite impressive.

Historians will take note of this and give him solid marks overall. He's many tiers above the Great Failure Bush.

[Rodmantheman]

10 million private sector jobs created in 53 months (a record) following the Great Recession is actually quite impressive.

Historians will take note of this and give him solid marks overall. He's many tiers above the Great Failure Bush.

:rolleyes:

[ImKobe]

Doesn't matter who gets elected, we're ****ed anyways.

[ThePhantomCreep]

:rolleyes:

An emoticon. Weak.

[Graviton]

Do people really think the President has that much power? These candidates have their campaigns funded by millionaires and billionaires, they are expected to help those same individuals in return. Nobody is going to suddenly think of "the people". On top of that they can't change much unless the Senate cooperates. Usually the opposite party just cockblocks the President when he tries affect the status quo. It's all business in the end.

[masonanddixon]

10 million private sector jobs created in 53 months (a record) following the Great Recession is actually quite impressive.

Historians will take note of this and give him solid marks overall. He's many tiers above the Great Failure Bush.

Let's not forget those jobs are poorly paid part time jobs

[ThePhantomCreep]

Let's not forget those jobs are poorly paid part time jobs

Nope. Since 2010 (when the 53 month streak began) full-time jobs. Have gone up 7.6 million, with part-time jobs declining -900k. The part-time economy talking point parroted by conservatives is a myth.

[Rodmantheman]

Nope. Since 2010 (when the 53 month streak began) full-time jobs. Have gone up 7.6 million, with part-time jobs declining -900k. The part-time economy talking point parroted by conservatives is a myth.

links?

[ThePhantomCreep]

links?

http://edge2.politicususa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Screen-Shot-2014-07-14-at-12.10.59-PM-1.jpg

FRED = Federal Reserve Economic Data. C'mon, you guys didn't really think Fox News and Rush Limbaugh were feeding you accurate information, right?

[Cactus-Sack]

Yup, because barmer is totes responsible for hiring practices throughout the US.

[masonanddixon]

Nope. Since 2010 (when the 53 month streak began) full-time jobs. Have gone up 7.6 million, with part-time jobs declining -900k. The part-time economy talking point parroted by conservatives is a myth.

What sector?

By the why I am not trying to be contrarian, I am genuinely interested.

[ThePhantomCreep]

What sector?

By the why I am not trying to be contrarian, I am genuinely interested.

Private sector. The damages caused by the worst recession in 80+ years, undone in four. Almost.

[Droid101]

HES A DIVIDER NOT A UNITER

Or some other stupid shit from Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh/whoever.

[masonanddixon]

Private sector. The damages caused by the worst recession in 80+ years, undone in four. Almost.

Why isn't he able to help out the younger generations with a suitable form of PAYE/IBR?

[IcanzIIravor]

Why isn't he able to help out the younger generations with a suitable form of PAYE/IBR?

You have to have a congress willing to work with you. Without that no President will get things done, short of a majority in both houses. Same thing will happen if the GOP retakes the Presidency, but loses the House or Senate. Compromise is a dirty word in politics these days and leads to someone being booted from congress.

[L8kersfan222]

Rodmantheman ghost

[nathanjizzle]

"This country has never been more devided because of obama"- conservatives. Texans sign petition to start their own country.

[Godzuki]

its so retarded to me when people pretend Obama = Bush.

anyways thank God it wasn't a Republican or they'd have made the worst calls on the most crucial decisions this country has made in the last 30~ years.

still, not a big fan of Obama anymore at all....just saying a Republican Prez/administration would've put us in a Depression, the likes of we still wouldn't be out of now. u can bet on that.

[RoseCity07]

No president is perfect but after Bush there was no way Obama could fail. He's been a saint in comparison. Never forget that Bush got the US into a trillion dollar oil war that was started by telling a blatant lie to the American public.

[Nick Young]

He basically is Bush 2.0.

Dunno why anyone will expect anything different with the next pres.

[Nick Young]

No president is perfect but after Bush there was no way Obama could fail. He's been a saint in comparison. Never forget that Bush got the US into a trillion dollar oil war that was started by telling a blatant lie to the American public.
He's pretty much been Bush's equal.

Obama killed more people and spent more on the military then Bush ever did. He also lied more about his campaign promises then Bush did. Dunno why you are praising him as some kind of anti-Bush. Obama is basically the same president wrapped in a different package.

[Cactus-Sack]

He basically is Bush 2.0.

Dunno why anyone will expect anything different with the next pres.

Unless the next prez is Paul or Warren.

[KevinNYC]

Private sector. The damages caused by the worst recession in 80+ years, undone in four. Almost.

government jobs are still down though
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XFoU-z5j5_k/U95eQQFkggI/AAAAAAAAf-Y/N-tHHqI7q5w/s1600/PublicJuly2014.jpg


Also getting back to zero means we have not kept pace with the growth of the population.


However, your point stands. People who thought this would be easy to come back from underestimated the depth of The Great Recession. Also when you have a recession caused by a financial collapse, it takes a long time to come back because so many people and corporations start deleveraging, that is to say cutting back on buying new things and just paying down their debt.

[Rodmantheman]

He's pretty much been Bush's equal.

Obama killed more people and spent more on the military then Bush ever did. He also lied more about his campaign promises then Bush did. Dunno why you are praising him as some kind of anti-Bush. Obama is basically the same president wrapped in a different package.

http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.bush.pakistan.drone.strikes.infograhic.gif

[Bosnian Sajo]

He's pretty much been Bush's equal.

Obama killed more people and spent more on the military then Bush ever did. He also lied more about his campaign promises then Bush did. Dunno why you are praising him as some kind of anti-Bush. Obama is basically the same president wrapped in a different package.

Did I miss anything?

[MadeFromDust]

Lame duck prez now GTFO

[Derka]

Bush, Obama, Clinton, Paul, Liz Warren blah blah blah. Doesn't matter what actor you put on the stage, they all take their orders from the people who really run things.

[Godzuki]

http://stpeteforpeace.org/obama.bush.pakistan.drone.strikes.infograhic.gif


so fukking what? that shit was extremely effective over ground troops or any other military strategy.

drones are the bomb :bowdown: wish we'd use them more... :pimp:

[Rodmantheman]

so fukking what? that shit was extremely effective over ground troops or any other military strategy.

drones are the bomb :bowdown: wish we'd use them more... :pimp:


:facepalm These drones kill way more civilians then terrorists but yeah continue to be arrogant and dumb.

[Godzuki]

:facepalm These drones kill way more civilians then terrorists but yeah continue to be arrogant and dumb.


its not the drones fault, its human error fault. even then innocents die in wars, especially when they're there supporting Taliban and shit. cry me a river fgt. american troops lives aren't in danger, and drones do all of the dirty work.

don't be mad America is at the video game stage of robotic wars :pimp:

[DaSeba5]

Bush, Obama, Clinton, Paul, Liz Warren blah blah blah. Doesn't matter what actor you put on the stage, they all take their orders from the people who really run things.

This. The president is elected to be the scapegoat and face of the US. He's basically Uncle Sam. People act like Obama makes every decision with supreme power like some king. Congress has more power than the president.

[Duggrr]

so fukking what? that shit was extremely effective over ground troops or any other military strategy.

drones are the bomb :bowdown: wish we'd use them more... :pimp:
:biggums:

[eliteballer]

Not a huge Obama basher or supporter but his foreign policy has been horrid. He focuses too much on domestic policy.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Not a huge Obama basher or supporter but his foreign policy has been horrid. He focuses too much on domestic policy.

We can't and shouldn't have to police the world. Our garbage predecessor hammered that point pretty clearly.

[eliteballer]

We can't and shouldn't have to police the world. Our garbage predecessor hammered that point pretty clearly.

It's way more complicated than that. Our economy is integrated into the global economy. Other countries look to us for leadership and security as they rightfully should. Everything that happens in the world effects us in one way or another.

It's not as simple as "it's not our responsibility". That's just a completely ignorant worldview. It is our responsibility and interest to have stability in the world.

[Nanners]

It's way more complicated than that. Our economy is integrated into the global economy. Other countries look to us for leadership and security as they rightfully should. Everything that happens in the world effects us in one way or another.

It's not as simple as "it's not our responsibility". That's just a completely ignorant worldview. It is our responsibility and interest to have stability in the world.

and how exactly has our meddling in iraq and afghanistan helped to bring stability to the world?

[eliteballer]

and how exactly has our meddling in iraq and afghanistan helped to bring stability to the world?

Afghanistan is self explanatory and I don't agree with Bush junior's decision to go into Iraq, but once he did and we were committed we had(and have) to do the job right.

Although the real reason the middle east is so f*cked up is sykes picot.