Cavs big 4 have all gave the Thunder the business lol

[Hoopz2332]

OKC doesn't scare me at all:oldlol:


Cavs lesser 2 of the big 4


Kyrie Irving Full Highlights 2014.02.26 at Thunder - 31 Pts, 9 Assists, 4 Stls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3nPEtsB7bk&app=desktop&hd=1


Kyrie Irving 13pts in the last 2:51 against OKC Thunder (2013.02.02)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIANMqJX0ig&hd=1


Kyrie Irving Amazing Game Winner vs Thunder - February 2, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU8cwekPbPU&hd=1


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Dion Waiters Full Highlights 2014.03.20 vs Thunder - 30 Pts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJEnRvrTXI&app=desktop&hd=1


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Cavs big 2


Kevin Love Scores 51 points 14 Rebounds & Seven 3 Pointers! :eek: (Thunder cant guard Bosh on the perimeter so you know Love gonna style on them!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeJYRnZ37yg&app=desktop&hd=1


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:lebronamazed:



LeBron James Stampedes the Thunder in OKC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMQsCX0z74&hd=1


LeBron catches fire to end 1st half!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c26cnWlK2Ms&hd=1


Nightly Notable: LeBron Torches the Thunder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ClVgLKEKk&hd=1

LeBron & Durant battle to close 1st half of season!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaTbGGGm354&hd=1



http://i.imgur.com/09aOjoz.png



:oldlol:




Throwback

LeBron James Game winning block on Kevin Durrant at end of Game 1 23 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN_NvujgnpI&hd=1

owning Durant since his Cavs days:lol

Lebron James 1st Half Dunk Highlights vs Thunder 12-13-09 (44pts / 7rbs / 6assist / 4stls)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPusHKKGP78&hd=1


:bowdown:




Lebron James triple-double (26PTS, 11REB, 13AST) vs Thunder full highlights (2012 NBA Finals GM5)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvgkwOcuIY&hd=1




http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/hT5Hx.jpg

[artificial]

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/500x/53296022.jpg

[Warfan]

Bunch of frontrunners :facepalm

OP what team will you follow once bron retires? Or maybe the better question is which superstars d1ck will you hop onto?

[noob cake]

You are telling me that LeBron is playing with the most stacked team in years?

[Hoopz2332]

big 5:oldlol:


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/06/23/sports/basketball/23miller/23miller-blog480.jpg


Mike Miller 7 three-pointers vs Thunder (2012 NBA Finals GM5)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq8JClcZAFM&hd=1


Mike Miller Full Highlights 2014 Playoffs R1G5 at Thunder - 21 Pts, 6 Rebs, 3 Assists ,5 Threes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVtPQGLzf6Q&hd=1

[Hoopz2332]

Bunch of frontrunners :facepalm

OP what team will you follow once bron retires? Or maybe the better question is which superstars d1ck will you hop onto?


:durantunimpressed:

[chazzy]

Damn. Stacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p0Eal7-qpQ

[Lebronxrings]

nah were not really stacked. Alot of these are just due to the Thunders negligence in guarding them and preventing them from scoring. I know they do not fully take Love and Kyrie 100% seriously like they do Lebron.

[MastaKilla]

Damn that team is stacked

[Pointguard]

Kind of weird that OKC seems like the least of the contenders out West to handle the Cavs. Because I remember all of the guys having big games on them.

[Sarcastic]

Most stacked team of all time. Thanks for the proof, OP.

[Fudge]

Most stacked team of all-time, EASILY. No f*cking excuses, clowns. :oldlol:

[JT123]

Durant stans avoiding this thread like the plague. :banana:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Damn, OKC getting pounced on by teams that weren't even playoff contenders? :biggums: Just shows how worthless brooks is. Can't even manage the most talented team in decades

[Lebronxrings]

Damn, OKC getting pounced on by teams that weren't even playoff contenders? :biggums: Just shows how worthless brooks is. Can't even manage the most talented team in decades

:facepalm Yes because you can name 5 better coaches in the nba

[BlkMambaGOAT]

No excuses.

[J Shuttlesworth]

No excuses.
Agreed. Thunder have all the talent in the world. There's no excuses for them losing to a bunch of players who couldn't make the playoffs the last couple years (aside from LeBron of course)

Glad to see we agree! Repped

[Eric Cartman]

Agreed. Thunder have all the talent in the world. There's no excuses for them losing to a bunch of players who couldn't make the playoffs the last couple years (aside from LeBron of course)

Glad to see we agree! Repped

Based on the chemistry disparity alone, it would be a disgrace if the Thunder lose to the Cavs. Not to mention the inexperience of the young Cavs in big moments.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Based on the chemistry disparity alone, it would be a disgrace if the Thunder lose to the Cavs. Not to mention the inexperience of the young Cavs in big moments.
Word. Unfortunately, it won't be the Thunder facing the Cavs. I'd love to see them lose in the finals, but they will lose to the Spurs again this year... and the Spurs will likely beat the Cavs

[Dengness9]

Bunch of frontrunners :facepalm

OP what team will you follow once bron retires? Or maybe the better question is which superstars d1ck will you hop onto?

https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/laughing-gif.10714/

[RedBlackAttack]

Just so I understand the subtext of what is happening, not just in this thread, but almost every thread in the Main Forum at the moment...

This is about LeBron fans arguing with other player fans, mainly Durant fans, as to who has the better team... because it's actually better to be on a less talented team in this instance?

I've always been baffled by the mind of a player fan. It's often difficult for me to grapple with their twisted logic.

[MastaKilla]

Just so I understand the subtext of what is happening, not just in this thread, but almost every thread in the Main Forum at the moment...

This is about LeBron fans arguing with other player fans, mainly Durant fans, as to who has the better team... because it's actually better to be on a less talented team in this instance?

I've always been baffled by the mind of a player fan. It's often difficult for me to grapple with their twisted logic.


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343495

[J Shuttlesworth]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=343495
Damn dude that's a great post :bowdown: Who wrote that?

[RedBlackAttack]

So... would LeBron fans prefer their man be on a team with very little talent? I guess that would be the ultimate goal, no?

If so, the last couple months must have been pretty depressing. Being on a good team with high expectations is not what you want, right?

Just trying to understand. It seems to me playing with the best players possible would be advantageous for player fans, but I'm sensing the opposite reaction.

[DaSeba5]

Sorry I deleted the post. I wanted to write something else.

As for the Heat, you guys are higher on the Heat than me.

[RedBlackAttack]

Sorry I deleted the post. I wanted to write something else.

As for the Heat, you guys are higher on the Heat than me.
That was strange. Quickly deleted posts and responses always raise alt account flags. J/S

[DaSeba5]

That was strange.

Yah I deleted my post and then he deleted his reply. Sorry about that. :D

Almost 9,000 posts is enough for me. I have a life. I don't have time to use alts.

[SpecialQue]

Nobody gives a shit if OKC "scares" you or not. They're not getting to the finals. Besides, you think Kyrie or Love are going to do anything against the Spurs when they get to the finals again? Please.

[RedBlackAttack]

Nobody gives a shit if OKC "scares" you or not. They're not getting to the finals. Besides, you think Kyrie or Love are going to do anything against the Spurs when they get to the finals again? Please.
Love in particular has been a problem for the Spurs over the last few years. He had something like 45 points and 15 rebounds against them last season.

It may or may not work out, but this Cavs team is going to be completely different from the Heat. Totally different pieces that fit together in a completely different way. It is not a given that the Cavs will make it out of the East, btw.

[J Shuttlesworth]

So... would LeBron fans prefer their man be on a team with very little talent? I guess that would be the ultimate goal, no?

If so, the last couple months must have been pretty depressing. Being on a good team with high expectations is not what you want, right?

Just trying to understand. It seems to me playing with the best players possible would be advantageous for player fans, but I'm sensing the opposite reaction.
Honestly, everyone wants their team to have the most talent possible. It's just stupid when people try to use the term "stacked" to say rings don't count. LeBron stans are just throwing it back in the people's faces who said that the rings don't count, especially when teams like OKC are loaded with talent and haven't produced a ring.

It's something you'll only see on the forums, and not something people discuss in real life.

[DaSeba5]

Honestly, everyone wants their team to have the most talent possible. It's just stupid when people try to use the term "stacked" to say rings don't count. LeBron stans are just throwing it back in the people's faces who said that the rings don't count, especially when teams like OKC are loaded with talent and haven't produced a ring.

It's something you'll only see on the forums, and not something people discuss in real life.

Very true.

[ImKobe]

Didn't KD and Russ combine for over 80 points against an OT game vs Wolves one time with Love dropping like 50 himself? I watched that game back in 2012

looking for boxscore....

here it is

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=320323025

Russ & KD combine for 85 points

KD had 40/17/5/3, Love with the 51/14, Russ with the 45

KD was 15/26, Love was 16/27, Russ was 17/28, funny coincidence in terms of makes & FGA huh.

[Hoopz2332]

Nobody gives a shit if OKC "scares" you or not. They're not getting to the finals. Besides, you think Kyrie or Love are going to do anything against the Spurs when they get to the finals again? Please.


On offense? yes. No way in hell doe Kyire plays as bad as Chalmers did in the finals (chalmers sucked all playoffs last season) and Love will atleast rebound better than Bosh did. Spurs were crushing the Heat on the boards/2nd chances after playing great defense. You must def rebound to finish the play.


Thunder were no comp for the Heat and they wont be for the Cavs either. The only team that scares me from the West is the Spurs.

[eliteballer]

Let them get past the Bulls first.

[Hoopz2332]

Let them get past the Bulls first.


Bulls?:oldlol: Wizards scare me more than the Bulls

[La Frescobaldi]

Love in particular has been a problem for the Spurs over the last few years. He had something like 45 points and 15 rebounds against them last season.

It may or may not work out, but this Cavs team is going to be completely different from the Heat. Totally different pieces that fit together in a completely different way. It is not a given that the Cavs will make it out of the East, btw.

He also never has any trouble with the Thunder. Cleveland could have a real good team, depends on how that mix of James & Love goes. But for a fact, they better get Waiters and Irving heavily involved on offense and keep them involved or they're going to struggle at the point. Both those guys want to score and they may get some mentality problems if they get moved into pure roles. Neither one of them has even a clue about the Derek Fisher view of pointguard in basketball - play in the pocket, always do the right thing on the floor and for the team, even though in his early days Fish was a real offensive threat.

But the key, and that pun is intended, for the Cavs season is going to be Varejao & Haywood.

Love is going to get his usual insane numbers of boards, and his defense will continue to be underrated by a lot of guys who don't know how to watch what's happening off ball in the paint. Love's rotations & reads are real good when he understands the defensive scheme, but his motivation needs a strong hand from the coaches. Adleman mailed it in on defense a lot. On the other hand, Love won't have to carry the offense (which he should not have been doing in Minnesota either but he did) and he may be more effective on D than we've seen the last couple years.

But most of all, Love is not going to the rim against anybody who breaks down the perimeter defense. He is absolutely an elite player but he does not leap.
The centers are going to have to handle that and if Cleveland doesn't spend hours and days focusing on team defense to allow for that fact....... it's gonna go hard on Cavs.

[JT123]

Bulls?:oldlol: Wizards scare me more than the Bulls
This.

[RedBlackAttack]

He also never has any trouble with the Thunder. Cleveland could have a real good team, depends on how that mix of James & Love goes. But for a fact, they better get Waiters and Irving heavily involved on offense and keep them involved or they're going to struggle at the point. Both those guys want to score and they may get some mentality problems if they get moved into pure roles. Neither one of them has even a clue about the Derek Fisher view of pointguard in basketball - play in the pocket, always do the right thing on the floor and for the team, even though in his early days Fish was a real offensive threat.

But the key, and that pun is intended, for the Cavs season is going to be Varejao & Haywood.

Love is going to get his usual insane numbers of boards, and his defense will continue to be underrated by a lot of guys who don't know how to watch what's happening off ball in the paint. Love's rotations & reads are real good when he understands the defensive scheme, but his motivation needs a strong hand from the coaches. Adleman mailed it in on defense a lot. On the other hand, Love won't have to carry the offense (which he should not have been doing in Minnesota either but he did) and he may be more effective on D than we've seen the last couple years.

But most of all, Love is not going to the rim against anybody who breaks down the perimeter defense. He is absolutely an elite player but he does not leap.
The centers are going to have to handle that and if Cleveland doesn't spend hours and days focusing on team defense to allow for that fact....... it's gonna go hard on Cavs.

Good post.

But, to the bolded part, have you watched any of Irving playing with the national team this offseason? He seems to have completely adapted his game to that format, playing alongside other scorers, and has looked to pass far more than he has looked to score. He finished the four exhibition games with 19 assists (leading the team) against just 2 turnovers.

Additionally, in 83 minutes of play over those four games, he was 14-of-22 from the field. As much as he has been handling the ball, a little over 10 shots per 40 minutes shows you the kind of adaptation he's made to those surroundings.

Obviously, trying to extrapolate a player's game in international competition as it compares to the NBA is almost impossible, but it does show you that Irving is willing to run an offense and not necessarily look for his own shot first when he is surrounded by talent.

I don't think you should jump to conclusions based on his first three years in Cleveland as to how he'll play with this group. He was the team's best shooter, scorer, playmaker, ball-handler, etc. It's a difficult balance for a young player when he's asked to carry the scoring load and set up his teammates. He struggled with that side of it.

Now, he has choices. I think he could become a very good traditional point guard with his ability to beat guys off the dribble, and his solid midrange and longrange shooting acumen should create plenty of spacing.


There are a lot of variables with this team and we don't have many answers (none, actually) at this stage. What kind of offense will Blatt put into place? Who is going to be the primary ball-handler? How is Waiters going to be utilized? Will LeBron accept a lower usage rate and begin changing his game a bit as he enters his 30s? How will Irving fit into an offense that will see him handling the ball less?

All valid questions. But, I've watched every professional game that Irving and Waiters have played in and I'm not going to even attempt to define either of them in this new system with this much talent around them. It's a new day in Cleveland and their old roles are out the window. It could be to their betterment or detriment. Personally, I'd anticipate the former.

[La Frescobaldi]

Good post.

But, to the bolded part, have you watched any of Irving playing with the national team this offseason? He seems to have completely adapted his game to that format, playing alongside other scorers, and has looked to pass far more than he has looked to score. He finished the four exhibition games with 19 assists (leading the team) against just 2 turnovers.

Additionally, in 83 minutes of play over those four games, he was 14-of-22 from the field. As much as he has been handling the ball, a little over 10 shots per 40 minutes shows you the kind of adaptation he's made to those surroundings.

Obviously, trying to extrapolate a player's game in international competition as it compares to the NBA is almost impossible, but it does show you that Irving is willing to run an offense and not necessarily look for his own shot first when he is surrounded by talent.

I don't think you should jump to conclusions based on his first three years in Cleveland as to how he'll play with this group. He was the team's best shooter, scorer, playmaker, ball-handler, etc. It's a difficult balance for a young player when he's asked to carry the scoring load and set up his teammates. He struggled with that side of it.

Now, he has choices. I think he could become a very good traditional point guard with his ability to beat guys off the dribble, and his solid midrange and longrange shooting acumen should create plenty of spacing.


There are a lot of variables with this team and we don't have many answers (none, actually) at this stage. What kind of offense will Blatt put into place? Who is going to be the primary ball-handler? How is Waiters going to be utilized? Will LeBron accept a lower usage rate and begin changing his game a bit as he enters his 30s? How will Irving fit into an offense that will see him handling the ball less?

All valid questions. But, I've watched every professional game that Irving and Waiters have played in and I'm not going to even attempt to define either of them in this new system with this much talent around them. It's a new day in Cleveland and their old roles are out the window. It could be to their betterment or detriment. Personally, I'd anticipate the former.

good. No I haven't seen any of the international stuff but that's real good to hear.

Remember when Irving came into the league he was rook with Rubio and there were lots of comparisons going on between who was going to be better at running an offense?

It's been just about impossible to compare because of all the things you say about Cleveland - KI has had to do it all just to compete, while Rubio has had 2 great scorers in the paint and while K Martin did not maintain a high level of scoring, it looked like he finally had a perimeter threat too, last year. Ricky9 was also hampered by Adleman, who stupidly rejected Rubio's style of play and forced him into a role he wasn't suited for (strangely enough, exactly Irving's role).

I'm a shameless Pekovic stan these days so I'll be watching Wolves hoops but good luck Cleveland!!

[DukeDelonte13]

i think mentality issues or character issues are come out more on teams that are struggling. It's much easier to play a role when the team is on cruise control during the regular season.

Everybody paints Dion as this brooding malcontent, when in reality Kyrie was much more of the diva that Dion ever was. All Dion does is say "I wanna start".
Should we all want him to say he'd rather come off the bench?

[El Gato Negro]

OKC doesn't scare me at all:oldlol:


Cavs lesser 2 of the big 4


Kyrie Irving Full Highlights 2014.02.26 at Thunder - 31 Pts, 9 Assists, 4 Stls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3nPEtsB7bk&app=desktop&hd=1


Kyrie Irving 13pts in the last 2:51 against OKC Thunder (2013.02.02)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIANMqJX0ig&hd=1


Kyrie Irving Amazing Game Winner vs Thunder - February 2, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU8cwekPbPU&hd=1


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Dion Waiters Full Highlights 2014.03.20 vs Thunder - 30 Pts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJEnRvrTXI&app=desktop&hd=1


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Cavs big 2


Kevin Love Scores 51 points 14 Rebounds & Seven 3 Pointers! :eek: (Thunder cant guard Bosh on the perimeter so you know Love gonna style on them!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeJYRnZ37yg&app=desktop&hd=1


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:lebronamazed:



LeBron James Stampedes the Thunder in OKC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMQsCX0z74&hd=1


LeBron catches fire to end 1st half!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c26cnWlK2Ms&hd=1


Nightly Notable: LeBron Torches the Thunder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ClVgLKEKk&hd=1

LeBron & Durant battle to close 1st half of season!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaTbGGGm354&hd=1



http://i.imgur.com/09aOjoz.png



:oldlol:




Throwback

LeBron James Game winning block on Kevin Durrant at end of Game 1 23 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN_NvujgnpI&hd=1

owning Durant since his Cavs days:lol

Lebron James 1st Half Dunk Highlights vs Thunder 12-13-09 (44pts / 7rbs / 6assist / 4stls)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPusHKKGP78&hd=1


:bowdown:




Lebron James triple-double (26PTS, 11REB, 13AST) vs Thunder full highlights (2012 NBA Finals GM5)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGvgkwOcuIY&hd=1




http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/hT5Hx.jpg:lol

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Word. Unfortunately, it won't be the Thunder facing the Cavs. I'd love to see them lose in the finals, but they will lose to the Spurs again this year... and the Spurs will likely beat the Cavs

:applause:

[pegasus]

If Lebron doesn't at least 4-peat with that STACKED team, he is a joke.

[Hoopz2332]

If Lebron doesn't at least 4-peat with that STACKED team, he is a joke.


They aren't that stacked. I still think the heat of last season are better aslong as Wade was healthy.

[riseagainst]

championship or choke.

[dannywpt]

Championship or bust

[dubeta]

The only expectations for the Cavs are to finally make the playoffs after a long 4 year drought

[Le Shaqtus]

The only expectations for the Cavs are to finally make the playoffs after a long 4 year drought

So you don't expect a LeBron led team to reach the finals?

[boozehound]

what the **** is this big 4 shit? More like big 2 and some decent young guys

[chips93]

i think the bulls have to be considered slight favorites in the east

this team has no real rim protection, and kyrie and dion have to improve defensively, or it could turn into a layup line for the other team.

[DukeDelonte13]

what the **** is this big 4 shit? More like big 2 and some decent young guys


Kyrie's a two time allstar and former ROY.

Waiters gets 0 respect. 16ppg on 43% for a 2nd year SG? (BTW Beal was 17ppg on 41%)

Pretty damn good if you ask me. :confusedshrug: