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imnew09
08-24-2014, 08:09 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/2yy11eh.jpg


:bowdown: GOAT

Top 5. Above Magic and Bird

SpecialQue
08-24-2014, 08:10 PM
"But but but look how many seasons he had to play to get that number!!!!"

Jameerthefear
08-24-2014, 08:11 PM
No one cares. Lebron>>>Kobe

FKAri
08-24-2014, 08:12 PM
Just shows how many people have been able to bail him out with a timely bucket.

BlkMambaGOAT
08-24-2014, 08:13 PM
:applause: MagicJohnsonBe

Heavincent
08-24-2014, 08:28 PM
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riseagainst
08-24-2014, 08:32 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10542687_928934533801738_331312063440906713_o.jpg

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Kblaze8855
08-24-2014, 08:33 PM
Terrible arguments everywhere......

robert de niro
08-24-2014, 08:45 PM
he may pass a lot on paper but he doesn't pass the eye test

GODbe
08-24-2014, 08:49 PM
:applause:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-24-2014, 08:49 PM
Kobe's shot selection will always be held against him (to a certain degree, rightfully so), but his playmaking or willingness to pass shouldn't be questioned, IMO.

Read what PJax said about his playmaking ie. the 2001 postseason ... Dude went on a complete tear via running that Laker offense.

dr.hee
08-24-2014, 09:00 PM
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Which idiot created this meme? Kobe isn't 27th all time, that's Drexler. Kobe is 33rd. Other non PGs in front of him are Havlicek(28th) and Pippen(26th). Then you also have combo-guards that played a significant time of their careers at SG: Jerry West(25th), Norm Nixon(24th), Reggie Theus(23rd).

So who created this bullshit meme?

MastaKilla
08-24-2014, 09:04 PM
Very nice

dubeta
08-24-2014, 09:46 PM
Kobe also has the most missed shots in NBA history and isnt even the all time scoring leader so who cares? :confusedshrug:

L8kersfan222
08-24-2014, 09:47 PM
Terrible arguments everywhere......
stfu kblaze

I<3NBA
08-24-2014, 11:08 PM
he may pass a lot on paper but he doesn't pass the eye test
:lol

Round Mound
08-25-2014, 12:00 AM
Kobe Was A Very Skilled Passer For a 2 Guard But To Name Him Next To Magic and Bird As A Passer? :facepalm :rolleyes: Thats Insulting :no:

stalkerforlife
08-25-2014, 12:06 AM
What'd he lead, 4 title teams in assists? Or was it all 5?

imnew09
08-25-2014, 03:17 AM
Kobe Was A Very Skilled Passer For a 2 Guard But To Name Him Next To Magic and Bird As A Passer? :facepalm :rolleyes: Thats Insulting :no:

Kobe is definitely up there in terms of passing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8nqgsrJJkc

SpanishACB
08-25-2014, 05:55 AM
how about you do that amongst top scoring guards and not kobe + bigmen

dr.hee
08-25-2014, 05:58 AM
how about you do that amongst top scoring guards and not kobe + bigmen

It's an arbitrary stat picked for a specific agenda. What do you expect?

NZStreetBaller
08-25-2014, 06:04 AM
Which idiot created this meme? Kobe isn't 27th all time, that's Drexler. Kobe is 33rd. Other non PGs in front of him are Havlicek(28th) and Pippen(26th). Then you also have combo-guards that played a significant time of their careers at SG: Jerry West(25th), Norm Nixon(24th), Reggie Theus(23rd).

So who created this bullshit meme?


http://espn.go.com/nba/history/leaders/_/stat/assists

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ast_career.html

Wow ESPN does talk sheit:eek:

Inactive
08-25-2014, 06:08 AM
The "Kobe doesn't pass" criticism has never been about his assist numbers, or his passing ability. He's very good at setting up his teammates when he wants to.

The problem is that he'll decide that he's going to take the shot on certain possessions, no matter what the defense does. He might have 10 assists in a game, but then he'll have a couple possessions in a row where he forces 20 foot fadeaways, instead of passing to an open shooter, or feeding a big in the post.

NZStreetBaller
08-25-2014, 06:40 AM
Kobe Bryant is the greastest passer that ever lived if you watch all his games from debut untill now. The fact that people believe that Kobe was bad sickens me to my stomach. Lebron james cannot pass nearly anywhere near the GOAT passer of all time and our Holy God Kobe. Its clear through all my time spent watching jordan highlight videos that his purpose of his career was basically to attract us to the upcoming future GOAT player and GOAT passer. like I said if you finetooth comb all the career passes and assist of Kobe he actually has more then DOUBLE the amount of passes then John stockton ESPN has a way of feeding us incorrect information. example WILTS 100 point game.... The old oh there is no actual footage but it happened. there is proof of lord KOBES 81 point game which could've easily been 100 if he chose to. Going back to the passing... it really is the only reason that Kobes teammates scored so much. majority of SHAQs points should be credited to Kobes career statistics and although Shaq won FMVP 3 times. Kobe was the unsung hero by assisting shaq and handing him the mighty unstopple palm magnet type laser beam passing greatness. the most memorable SHAQ and KOBE highlight was KOBE feeding SHAQ that alleyoop. hell im sure that baboon was just told by the all intelligent KOBE just jump up and grab the time my oversized attention seeking clown and you shall score a point. and then the mighty KOBE with his excellent timing and court vision pin pointed that pass to perfection. At the end of the day. we will see alot of good passers and have seen alot of good passers but by comparison no one is even remotely close to on the level of the good looking,iron jawed,killer that is KOBE bryant. this site is basically designed to try and tune down his greatness for competition sake when it comes to passing but the truth is there and the facts are right here. I feel bad for those without the real insight and knowledge of was a great passer is but its okay because you can and will remain mislead misinformed and uneducated just like every other player who stepped onto the court with the mighty unstoppable lord. If you had one person on your team that you would want to make you look good you wouldnt have a chance but kobe statistically would be the only one who would actually have the capability perhaps to make you look like you can actually bucket that shit. If i could rewind the clock to kobes debut and relive his career just for all of you i would but unfortunately kobe is the only one i believe who has time travelling potential. But fortunately for us kobe is an unselfish guy and may one day pass us the ability to travel in time.

So there you have it golden proof that Kobe is not only underrated but actually the GOAT of passing and making his teamates better NOT Lechoke NOT Jordum ""KOBE BRYANT"" deal with it haters:rockon:

-NZStreetBaller

KBaller33
08-25-2014, 06:42 AM
http://i59.tinypic.com/2yy11eh.jpg


:bowdown: GOAT

Top 5. Above Magic and Bird

Those are all the guys in the 30,000 point club. So he has more assists than two centers, a power forward who had an all time great point guard running his offense, and Jordan who Kobe has already played 173 more games than.

chris02jammers
08-25-2014, 06:58 AM
http://i59.tinypic.com/2yy11eh.jpg


:bowdown: GOAT

Top 5. Above Magic and Bird

wait till LeBron scores 30k points

chris02jammers
08-25-2014, 07:00 AM
Kobe Bryant is the greastest passer that ever lived if you watch all his games from debut untill now. The fact that people believe that Kobe was bad sickens me to my stomach. Lebron james cannot pass nearly anywhere near the GOAT passer of all time and our Holy God Kobe. Its clear through all my time spent watching jordan highlight videos that his purpose of his career was basically to attract us to the upcoming future GOAT player and GOAT passer. like I said if you finetooth comb all the career passes and assist of Kobe he actually has more then DOUBLE the amount of passes then John stockton ESPN has a way of feeding us incorrect information. example WILTS 100 point game.... The old oh there is no actual footage but it happened. there is proof of lord KOBES 81 point game which could've easily been 100 if he chose to. Going back to the passing... it really is the only reason that Kobes teammates scored so much. majority of SHAQs points should be credited to Kobes career statistics and although Shaq won FMVP 3 times. Kobe was the unsung hero by assisting shaq and handing him the mighty unstopple palm magnet type laser beam passing greatness. the most memorable SHAQ and KOBE highlight was KOBE feeding SHAQ that alleyoop. hell im sure that baboon was just told by the all intelligent KOBE just jump up and grab the time my oversized attention seeking clown and you shall score a point. and then the mighty KOBE with his excellent timing and court vision pin pointed that pass to perfection. At the end of the day. we will see alot of good passers and have seen alot of good passers but by comparison no one is even remotely close to on the level of the good looking,iron jawed,killer that is KOBE bryant. this site is basically designed to try and tune down his greatness for competition sake when it comes to passing but the truth is there and the facts are right here. I feel bad for those without the real insight and knowledge of was a great passer is but its okay because you can and will remain mislead misinformed and uneducated just like every other player who stepped onto the court with the mighty unstoppable lord. If you had one person on your team that you would want to make you look good you wouldnt have a chance but kobe statistically would be the only one who would actually have the capability perhaps to make you look like you can actually bucket that shit. If i could rewind the clock to kobes debut and relive his career just for all of you i would but unfortunately kobe is the only one i believe who has time travelling potential. But fortunately for us kobe is an unselfish guy and may one day pass us the ability to travel in time.

So there you have it golden proof that Kobe is not only underrated but actually the GOAT of passing and making his teamates better NOT Lechoke NOT Jordum ""KOBE BRYANT"" deal with it haters:rockon:

-NZStreetBaller

how come Kobe's assist number doesnt come close with LeBron in his first 11 season...

Breezy
08-25-2014, 08:39 AM
The problem isn't that Kobe doesn't pass. It's that he doesn't pass when he should. Which results in a lot of 30 foot fade aways over a triple team.

kurple
08-25-2014, 09:12 AM
Terrible arguments everywhere......
honestly, why do you even bother to stay here. i sure as hell wondering that

cool stat, but pretty useless.

let me prove my point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx645z6Kf3g

kshutts1
08-25-2014, 09:21 AM
Those are all the guys in the 30,000 point club. So he has more assists than two centers, a power forward who had an all time great point guard running his offense, and Jordan who Kobe has already played 173 more games than.

Came in here to post this.

And :facepalm at bringing up Bird and Magic. Neither is anywhere near 30k points, so of course they wouldn't be included.

Eat Like A Bosh
08-25-2014, 01:56 PM
Kobe's playmaking skills are rather underrated, he's very capable of feeding his teammates if he wants to. It's his shot selection that holds him back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQljOAaAdrM

SpecialQue
08-25-2014, 01:59 PM
Which idiot created this meme? Kobe isn't 27th all time, that's Drexler. Kobe is 33rd. Other non PGs in front of him are Havlicek(28th) and Pippen(26th). Then you also have combo-guards that played a significant time of their careers at SG: Jerry West(25th), Norm Nixon(24th), Reggie Theus(23rd).

So who created this bullshit meme?

I love how angry this sounds. I just picture someone coming into a room filled with kids and demanding to know who broke a lamp or something.

Lebronxrings
08-25-2014, 02:12 PM
so he takes the most shots, has most missed shots and get assists? So you telling me the ball is always in his hands until he wants to pad his assist totals? Ball hog.

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bizil
08-25-2014, 04:40 PM
Guys like Kobe and MJ are great scorers who are ALSO great passers. Guys like Big O and Lebron are great passers who are also great scorers. There is a difference. Kobe was always a guy in his career who could play and defend PG, SG, and SF. The most premium asset in bball in alpha dog scoring ability. Kobe knows this and plays to that to the hilt BUT he was always a great passer and could play the PG spot better than 95% of the guys in the NBA.

Guys like Westbrook, Rose, and Parker are basically small SG's or combo style guards anyway who dominate. Kobe would be like those guys but EVEN better I feel if he were a PG. But I think Big O or Bron at PG would be a bit better because they can dominate scoring, but have that true PG kind of mentality. But what Kobe does best is SCORE so it's only right he plays to that strength to the hilt.

kennethgriffin
08-25-2014, 04:48 PM
Those are all the guys in the 30,000 point club. So he has more assists than two centers, a power forward who had an all time great point guard running his offense, and Jordan who Kobe has already played 173 more games than.


and none of them including kobe are point guards. kobe had no more of an obligation to pass his entire career than a center or forward would. hes a shooting guard. i mean thats the only position where the word "SHOOTING" is part of his description

:lol

LongLiveTheKing
08-25-2014, 07:10 PM
That sort of happens when you play that long

Hey Yo
08-25-2014, 07:33 PM
and none of them including kobe are point guards. kobe had no more of an obligation to pass his entire career than a center or forward would. hes a shooting guard. i mean thats the only position where the word "SHOOTING" is part of his description

:lol
And as a SHOOTING guard, he should have at least shot over 46% in one of his 18 seasons and avg. well over 41% in his career in his 7 Finals appearances.

riseagainst
08-26-2014, 10:41 AM
And as a SHOOTING guard, he should have at least shot over 46% in one of his 18 seasons and avg. well over 41% in his career in his 7 Finals appearances.

using arbitrary numbers as arguments, nice loss.

HurricaneKid
08-26-2014, 10:52 AM
No discussion about the great "Kobe Assist"?

Thats when he airballs a shot and one of his many elite front court players gets the rebound and scores.

Myth
08-26-2014, 12:04 PM
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Even if that were true, how many non-big men have played more games or minutes than Kobe?

dubeta
08-26-2014, 12:43 PM
No discussion about the great "Kobe Assist"?

Thats when he airballs a shot and one of his many elite front court players gets the rebound and scores.
All hail the Kobe Assist


He does it on purpose :bowdown:

AlphaWolf24
08-26-2014, 01:16 PM
And as a SHOOTING guard, he should have at least shot over 46% in one of his 18 seasons and avg. well over 41% in his career in his 7 Finals appearances.


why?.... look at the league wide FG% the seasons Kobe played.

League wide FG% ( I'm guessing) for the 19 seasons he's been in the League has Hovered around 44% - 47% ( In the 80's and 90's it was 47 - 50%)

so we are expecting a prolific perimeter scorer Like Kobe to shoot 50% + FG% especially considering how much the 3pt shot is used in the modern era??:lol


- besides .2 - 4% FG difference means absolutely nothing when looking at the big picture.

example: player A shoots 10 shots all 2pters and hits 50% of his shots = 10pts

Player B shoots 10 shots all 3pters and hits 40% of his shots = 12pts:confusedshrug:

If a player shoots 20times the difference between 45% and 50% is only 1 shot...:hammerhead:


(sighs) Basketball Math.....for idiots.


next

dubeta
08-26-2014, 01:19 PM
why?.... look at the league wide FG% the seasons Kobe played.

League wide FG% ( I'm guessing) for the 19 seasons he's been in the League has Hovered around 44% - 47% ( In the 80's and 90's it was 47 - 50%)

so we are expecting a prolific perimeter scorer Like Kobe to shoot 50% + FG% especially considering how much the 3pt shot is used in the modern era??:lol


- besides .2 - 4% FG difference means absolutely nothing when looking at the big picture.

example: player A shoots 10 shots all 2pters and hits 50% of his shots = 10pts

Player B shoots 10 shots all 3pters and hits 40% of his shots = 12pts:confusedshrug:

If a player shoots 20times the difference between 45% and 50% is only 1 shot...:hammerhead:


(sighs) Basketball Math.....for idiots.


next

Huge kobe fan here, but basically from what you're saying, you're trying to say that Kobe was average offensively??

AlphaWolf24
08-26-2014, 01:22 PM
Huge kobe fan here, but basically from what you're saying, you're trying to say that Kobe was average offensively??


No..I'm saying he shot at or above league wide FG% for 19 seasons

considering he was always his teams best crunchtime player and a Offensive Force/ best perimeter defender....

not sure how many other players in NBA History can make that claim.

riseagainst
08-26-2014, 01:22 PM
Huge kobe fan here, but basically from what you're saying, you're trying to say that Kobe was average offensively??

i'm a huge lebron fan, but i think Kobe > lebron because 5 > 2. Simple math for the win.

AlphaWolf24
08-26-2014, 01:25 PM
i'm a huge lebron fan, but i think Kobe > lebron because 5 > 2. Simple math for the win.


I'll add another one...


DeAndre Jordan = 64% FG shooter

Michael Jordan = 49% FG% shooter

DeAndre Jordan = a better shooter


see Basketball Math always works as do stats

Big#50
08-26-2014, 05:10 PM
Kobe had the ball in his hands 75% of the time. Lakers never had a traditional PG.
I don't think people say he never passed. I know of many who say he was a great playmaker and passer. I think people attack his shot selection and volume.