T Wolves owner ethers Love

[Ca$H]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11415027/glen-taylor-minnesota-timberwolves-says-cleveland-cavaliers-not-best-bet-kevin-love

:oldlol:

[Legends66NBA7]

"Kevin has always said I want to win. I said I want to win, too, stay here and let's do it together."

We all know that bullshit wasn't going to happen.

K-Love is an asshole who made excuses for losing when he was in Minnesota and the management/ownership aren't any better since they didn't have any clue on how to build a team. Just go through their draft history in the Kevin Love era to how many missed opportunities they had.

[Meticode]

Sounds more like a salty owner that didn't have the balls to say anything while Love was on the team. Same thing Gilbert did when LeBron left. Love will come back in 2018.

[Meticode]

We all know that bullshit wasn't going to happen.

K-Love is an asshole who made excuses for losing when he was in Minnesota and the management/ownership aren't any better since they didn't have any clue on how to build a team. Just go through their draft history in the Kevin Love era to how many missed opportunities they had.
I'd be an asshole too if David Kahn drafted one million point guards.

[Smoke117]

He didn't ether anybody. Love and Rubio had the lowest dratings on that team of players that played significant mins and Love led the team in defensive win shares...there were far worse defensive players on that team than Love. Just from the eye test he's not even close to as bad as everyone likes to say he is.

[MP.Trey]

"I question Kevin if this is going to be the best deal for him because I think he's going to be the third player on the team," Taylor said. "I don't think he's going to get a lot of credit if they do really well. I think he'll get blame if they don't do well. He's around a couple guys that are awful good."

Agreed with this point. Almost lose-lose for Love from that standpoint.


This is no ether though. Dissapointed by the lack of Comic Sans

[CelticBalla32]

That's no slow burning ether. That's a bitter owner.

[Spaulding]

Regardless if he's right or not these are still inappropriate comments towards a player who was loyal for years.

[RedBlackAttack]

Here are his complete quotes in the article:

"I think where maybe he got away with some stuff not playing defense on our team, I'm not sure that's how it's going to work in Cleveland," Taylor said on ESPN Radio 1500 AM in the Twin Cities on Tuesday. "I would guess they're going to ask him to play more defense and he's foul prone."

"I question Kevin if this is going to be the best deal for him because I think he's going to be the third player on the team," Taylor said. "I don't think he's going to get a lot of credit if they do really well. I think he'll get blame if they don't do well. He's around a couple guys that are awful good."

"If they sign him to a five-year contract like they're thinking about, that's a big contract on a guy that's had some times he's missed games," Taylor said.

"The only thing I still have a question mark about is health. I had that concern then (when they negotiated his previous contract) and I still have that concern. I think Cleveland should have that concern too."

"Kevin and I have always had a good relationship," Taylor said. "Kevin has always said I want to win. I said I want to win, too, stay here and let's do it together."





Yikes... that wasn't Dan Gilbert-level anger, but some serious salt nonetheless. There is obviously some bad blood whether he wants to admit to it or not, but I don't really completely understand why. It isn't like he left them high and dry. He was completely honest with the franchise and, as a result, Minnesota was able to put together a deal wherein they received the best package any team has gotten in similar situations by a long way.

I get that you never like having to deal a guy who you drafted and helped turn into a Top 5 talent in the NBA just as he's approaching his prime, but getting Wiggins, Bennett, Young and a 1st ain't a bad consolation prize.

In this article he questions Love's toughness, character, impact, ability... Pretty rough.

[Meticode]

It isn't like he left them high and dry. He was completely honest with the franchise and, as a result, Minnesota was able to put together a deal wherein they received the best package any team has gotten in similar situations by a long way.
I'm just spit-balling here, but it might be because of how he handled the situation and held the organization hostage. Grant it, they were able to make a trade and get back great assets. The future will tell, but maybe the trade will work out better for Minnesota than the Cavaliers? In any case, neither you or I knows what happened behind the scenes with Love in Minnesota during his final months there. All we know is what he wanted, and that was to be traded without fully requesting a trading, but doing it passively. Perhaps the Taylor feels a large reason didn't make the playoffs was because of Love. Garnett is still basically loved by the fan base. Maybe some things were said behind doors the owner didn't like. Obviously, the owner is pretty salty about the situation.

[NuggetsFan]

- Questions defense. Fair point. Cleveland will ask Love to improve in that area. Everything he said here was true and fair, something Love probably acknowledges himself.

- I disagree with his second comment. It's fair tho. Playing behind LeBron. I think Love will be more like Wade, where as Irving will be the Bosh. I mean Love could catch some negative heat here, he himself once again would probably acknowledge that.

- Health concerns. Fair point. Everybody views these differently but Love has missed games.

- Talks about there good relationship and how he wanted them to win together which I mean is obvious. Minny wanted to keep him. Where's the issue?

Where's the ether/saltiness/drama? There is none. They made a potentially franchise determining trade, he has to comment and was pretty on point. Could have been waaaaay uglier.

[JohnFreeman]

Should have put good players around him :confusedshrug:

[RedBlackAttack]

- Questions defense. Fair point. Cleveland will ask Love to improve in that area. Everything he said here was true and fair, something Love probably acknowledges himself.

- I disagree with his second comment. It's fair tho. Playing behind LeBron. I think Love will be more like Wade, where as Irving will be the Bosh. I mean Love could catch some negative heat here, he himself once again would probably acknowledge that.

- Health concerns. Fair point. Everybody views these differently but Love has missed games.

- Talks about there good relationship and how he wanted them to win together which I mean is obvious. Minny wanted to keep him. Where's the issue?

Where's the ether/saltiness/drama? There is none. They made a potentially franchise determining trade, he has to comment and was pretty on point. Could have been waaaaay uglier.
Have you seen post-trade pressers/interviews for 99% of moves made in the NBA? Usually, it is just the generic, "he was a tremendous asset to our team, but we're excited about the future and moving forward with our newly acquired young pieces."

I don't think anyone expected the TWolves' GM to pick apart Love's injury history, potential for being "blamed," position on the hierarchy of Love's new team, defense (or lack thereof), question whether or not he's going to live up to a five-year max deal, etc.

And, let's not gloss over the fact that he said Love "will be the third best player on the team." That's a passive aggressive statement. I think -- in general -- most people consider Love further along than Kyrie Irving in his progression in the NBA. He's almost four years older and generally considered the better player at this moment.

For Taylor to say he's "the third best player" is a passive aggressive dig. Let's be honest about it.

A generic response was an option, but Taylor chose to expound on his weaknesses and take a couple of veiled digs at him. I think it is fair to say that the quotes, at least as they were presented in the article, portray a salty front office.

[Spaulding]

Should have put all stars around him :confusedshrug:

Fixed :)

[JohnFreeman]

LeBron is going to have a serious impact on Loves attitude and defense

[ALBballer]

Maybe the owner should have given him a max deal last time and they wouldnt be in this situation. Oh that's right, injuries were his concerns.

:coleman:

[fpliii]

Owner needs to learn his place. The Front Office chose not to give Love the fifth year he wanted, he has no room to be talking.

[oarabbus]

Damn that is really unprofessional of the guy. I mean he sounded way too bitter.

[stalkerforlife]

Love got that ether served hot.

I like Love, but he has a lot to prove.

[Cali Syndicate]

I recall the timberwolves very own broadcasters were talking about how Love was an empty statpadder and that Rubio impact the win column more than he did. If I'm Love and I'm putting up 20/20 games hustling doing what I do, and the organization as a whole is providing basically nothing but backhanded complements, I wouldn't want to stay either.

[masonanddixon]

Sounds like he also ethered Lebron fanbois in the process

[BoutPractice]

I think pretty much the opposite of what he's saying.

Love will fully reveal himself in Cleveland.

[chazzy]

They should be happy with their haul and stay quiet

[ihatetimthomas]

Kevin Love never did handle his displeasure with management well. He was constantly voicing to media about how he was upset about the development of the team and the lack of quality around him. This is dating back to right after he signed his extension. Owner sounds salty but the way Love handled his unhappiness was not done in the best way.

[bdreason]

Sour grapes.

[BigTicket]

He sounds like a bitter ex in this interview.

[JtotheIzzo]

Dubeta owns the Wolves?

lol

cereal doe, Glen Taylor is on the mark here, Cavs are gonna be like matadors out there. Good for them the East sucks, but the West is gonna roll them in the finals.

[El Gato Negro]

This guy is the reason the wolves couldn't do anything with KG, then love and now wiggins will be stuck there missing the playoffs for 7 years. in b4 empty stats wiggins

[JtotheIzzo]

This guy is the reason the wolves couldn't do anything with KG, then love and now wiggins will be stuck there missing the playoffs for 7 years. in b4 empty stats wiggins

Didn't they get to the conference finals the year they went out and got Cassell?

Also, I think a lot of the building around KG fell apart when Marbury bolted. Marbury and KG were good together.

KG couldn't close out games, his big moment shots were weird shit from the high post. He thrived with PP and Ray Allen because they could knock shit down in the clutch, KG handled business early and then the others closed shop late.

KG's inability to score in the clutch is why he will always be a 1B.

[El Gato Negro]

Didn't they get to the conference finals the year they went out and got Cassell?

Also, I think a lot of the building around KG fell apart when Marbury bolted. Marbury and KG were good together.

KG couldn't close out games, his big moment shots were weird shit from the high post. He thrived with PP and Ray Allen because they could knock shit down in the clutch, KG handled business early and then the others closed shop late.

KG's inability to score in the clutch is why he will always be a 1B.
Next year will be 10 straight years no playoffs. the wolves had to watch KG win a chip and now have to relive it with love. if history tells us anything wiggins will be no different, especially if they give rubio a max contract which the owner has already talked about.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Taylor noting that Love will be facing greater demands on D is a bit funny. Shouldn't he have a problem with his coaching staff not making him defend when he was in Minnie? If they were working harder on that end they would have been a better team and then maybe Love stays. Along with the added benefit of, you know, winning games.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Stupid words from the owner.

This is different than the Gilbert/LeBron situation because the T'Wolves owner TRADED Love away.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Didn't they get to the conference finals the year they went out and got Cassell?

Also, I think a lot of the building around KG fell apart when Marbury bolted. Marbury and KG were good together.

KG couldn't close out games, his big moment shots were weird shit from the high post. He thrived with PP and Ray Allen because they could knock shit down in the clutch, KG handled business early and then the others closed shop late.

KG's inability to score in the clutch is why he will always be a 1B.
Pierce and Allen hit more clutch baskets because that's what they do. Allen is arguably the most dangerous clutch shooter in league history and Pierce was a great clutch playmaker both as a scorer as well as a passer. But if you think Garnett didn't hit a few big shots himself as a Celtic you're wrong.

As far as his time in Minnie, any analysis of it is unfair if it ignores the fact the Wolves lost 5 straight 1st round picks as punishment for the illegal Joe Smith deal. 2 firsts and cap space is the going rate for an All-Star in trade. A good Gm gets 5 rotation players out of those picks. You can't ignore the effect that had on the teams Garnett was leading. The one time he got a good supporting cast they made the Conference Finals. And may even have advanced had Cassell not been hurt.

[HurricaneKid]

I'm just spit-balling here, but it might be because of how he handled the situation and held the organization hostage.

This is BS. Complete BS.

Love's contract is set to expire at the end of the year. It was the TIMBERWOLVES that sought to turn the remaining few months of his deal into a revitalization of their franchise. All because they were the ones that treated their best player like crap and told him he wasn't worth what every other team in the league knew he was worth.

With Sterling and Kohl gone the TWolves are likely the worst run franchise in the league now. These comments are little more than evidence of this.

Blaming a player for wanting to leave at the end of his contractual obligation is CRAZY. Especially when they are trying to leave a dysfunctional mess like this.

[JerrySeinfeld]

This is BS. Complete BS.

Love's contract is set to expire at the end of the year. It was the TIMBERWOLVES that sought to turn the remaining few months of his deal into a revitalization of their franchise.

I thought he had two years left on his contract?

[steve]

I thought he had two years left on his contract?

His final year was a player option (or an ETO or whatever, either way he could opt out of the 4th year of his deal).

And yeah, whenever asked all Love ever stated was that he was going to test free agency, which is something he's maintained for quite some time. The implication might have been that he was going to leave the Wolves but that was really only true because this is a team that hadn't made the playoffs in a decade and their organizational structure suggests nothing about that is going to change.

[Hey Yo]

Glen Taylor said Love is foul prone??

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwDUWA1CMAAh5DK.jpg

[navy]

Glen Taylor said Love is foul prone??

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwDUWA1CMAAh5DK.jpg
I thought about this as well. Love is a matador. Fouls from what?

Push in the back rebounds? :lol

[HurricaneKid]

I thought he had two years left on his contract?

He would have if Minnesota had done what every other club in the league would have done and signed him to a 5 year deal. But they gave him an opt out after 3 instead.

If LeBron hadn't gone to Cle or Kyrie had one more year on his deal Minnesota would be taking a bag 'o **** for their franchise cornerstone. They got really lucky.

[IGOTGAME]

Pierce and Allen hit more clutch baskets because that's what they do. Allen is arguably the most dangerous clutch shooter in league history and Pierce was a great clutch playmaker both as a scorer as well as a passer. But if you think Garnett didn't hit a few big shots himself as a Celtic you're wrong.

As far as his time in Minnie, any analysis of it is unfair if it ignores the fact the Wolves lost 5 straight 1st round picks as punishment for the illegal Joe Smith deal. 2 firsts and cap space is the going rate for an All-Star in trade. A good Gm gets 5 rotation players out of those picks. You can't ignore the effect that had on the teams Garnett was leading. The one time he got a good supporting cast they made the Conference Finals. And may even have advanced had Cassell not been hurt.

KG did not perform well in this clutch in Minny. He ran from shots. If you watched the games and were on here back when it was happening then I'm sure you remember.

[FireDavidKahn]

Glen Taylor is tyhe sorriest shack of shit of an owner in all of sports now that Sterling is gone. He is old, he is senile, he runs the FO like a country club. He has never been able to shut his damn mouth. **** you Glen Taylor. At least he isn't racist

[navy]

Glen Taylor is tyhe sorriest shack of shit of an owner in all of sports now that Sterling is gone. He is old, he is senile, he runs the FO like a country club. He has never been able to shut his damn mouth. **** you Glen Taylor. At least he isn't racist
Have you seen the Timberwolves roster? :lol

[FireDavidKahn]

Have you seen the Timberwolves roster? :lol
Yes? It's like half black:confusedshrug:

[navy]

Yes? It's like half black:confusedshrug:
Only half? :biggums:

[305Baller]

"T Wolves owner ethers Love"

:oldlol:

[senelcoolidge]

I don't see Love's defense improving all of a sudden. He is who he is. Love is made out of glass, so him making through the season healthy will be a big plus.

[Real Men Wear Green]

KG did not perform well in this clutch in Minny. He ran from shots. If you watched the games and were on here back when it was happening then I'm sure you remember.
"Ran from" shots? No, I don't remember that.

[RedBlackAttack]

I thought he had two years left on his contract?
Yep. I'm also pretty certain he has circled the December 23rd matchup against the Timberwolves. Taylor said his piece, but his team still has to take the court against Love's new one.

[BlackVVaves]

I've been in Europe since the end of June so forgive me for my overdue exasperation, but I literally just found out....

Love got traded to the Cavs????

But cotdamn. Minny made out with a lot for a player that was a pending FA. Not a lot but, more than I anticipated.