Todays PG and SG wouldnt have the same impact in the 90s.

[juju151111]

The nba over the last 25 years had been changing rules like crazy to make it easier for smaller player s to penetrate. The handchecking rules definitely helped them and the 00s sees a number of PG who can dominate because they can get to the rim easily. They are not getting to the hole with a PF handchecking them coming off a screen and bumbing them.

[fpliii]

How would KJ do in today's league?

[FKAri]

Likewise those centers wouldn't have the same impact today that they had back then. It goes both ways.

[L.Kizzle]

How would KJ do in today's league?
KJ and Timmy would terrorize the league. Hell, someone like Robert Pack would be an All-Star is todays league.



Likewise those centers wouldn't have the same impact today that they had back then. It goes both ways.
Come on man, 37 year old Tim Duncan is still an All-Star, 36 year old Jermaine O'Neal as doing work in the playoffs. And you don't think prime Hakeem, Pat-Ew, D-Rob and Shaq wouldn't do work in this league?

[oarabbus]

KJ and Timmy would terrorize the league. Hell, someone like Robert Pack would be an All-Star is todays league.



Come on man, 37 year old Tim Duncan is still an All-Star, 36 year old Jermaine O'Neal as doing work in the playoffs. And you don't think prime Hakeem, Pat-Ew, D-Rob and Shaq wouldn't do work in this league?


:biggums:

double up

:biggums: :biggums:

[mehyaM24]

lol with no zone, ability to handcheck, and high pace (early 90s), they would be even better.

[juju151111]

Likewise those centers wouldn't have the same impact today that they had back then. It goes both ways.
Duncan and Shaq were winning chips from 00-07. Gasol,KG. Wtf are you talking about. 37 years old Duncan just won a Chip.

[juju151111]

lol with no zone, ability to handcheck, and high pace (early 90s), they would be even better.
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/29/sp...face-lift.html

October 29, 1997

Blame Pat Riley's no-layup rule that forbids players passage to the basket. Or Charles Oakley's massive forearms that stop penetrating point guards in their tracks. Or point your finger at a bunch of unimaginative offenses that seem to generate points.

Five rule changes instituted by the league's competition committee this season are the most significant since the restriction of hand-checking by defensive players before the 1994-95 season -- another rule that had much do with those naughty, naughty tactics of Riley and the Knicks.

''Basically, we're trying to encourage more driving to the basket,'' said Rod Thorn, the National Basketball Association's vice president of operations.

''Our hope is that teams will get a few more shot opportunities or draw a foul, whatever the case may be. We'd like to force some people to develop a medium-range game.''

Teams averaged slightly more than 79 shots a game last season, a figure Thorn would like to see increase by at least a few shots. The league's two-highest scoring teams, Utah and Chicago, met in the N.B.A. finals this past June. But neither the Bulls nor the Jazz managed to crack the 100-point barrier in a six-game series.

The rule changes:

*Moving back the 3-point line, which was 22 feet from the basket the last three seasons. It will be lengthened to its original distance of 23 feet 9 inches, except in the corners, where the distance will remain 22 feet.

*A defender will not be permitted to use his forearm to impede the progress of an offensive player who is facing the basket in the frontcourt.

*A player may not call a timeout if both of his feet are in the air and any part of his body has broken the vertical plane of the sideline or baseline.

*The illegal-defense rule in which two defenders had to be at the foul line while guarding players uninvolved in the offense far out on the perimeter has been eliminated. One of the defenders will be allowed to go outside the lane, if the defender so chooses. This discourages teams from effectively removing two players from the action.

*A no-charge area near the basket will be expanded. The area, in which an offensive foul is not called if contact is made with a secondary defensive player who has established a defensive position, will be the area consisting of a half circle with a four-foot radius measured from the middle of the goal. Five hashmarks on the floor this season will mark the area to better help officials

[Pointguard]

The nba over the last 25 years had been changing rules like crazy to make it easier for smaller player to penetrate. The handchecking rules definitely helped them and the 00s sees a number of PG who can dominate because they can get to the rim easily. They are not getting to the hole with a PF handchecking them coming off a screen and bumbing them.

Only the super fast players penetrate to the hoop now. The bigs are much faster to the ball these days. Fast guys could always get to the hoop in the 90's. Below are two of the few KJ highlights on youtube. Not only does the situation you provide never come into effect, the switches are hideous, and never come into affect. The big men are so slow its like they aren't there. And Hakeem was among the quickest to the ball in the frontcourt.

And these are both playoff games. And KJ isn't top notch quickness/explosiveness vs Rose/Westbrook/Kemba. Those three would definitely be better in the 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-LElKxA2vw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dB_xKFIJgg

[ralph_i_el]

KJ and Timmy would terrorize the league. Hell, someone like Robert Pack would be an All-Star is todays league.



Come on man, 37 year old Tim Duncan is still an All-Star, 36 year old Jermaine O'Neal as doing work in the playoffs. And you don't think prime Hakeem, Pat-Ew, D-Rob and Shaq wouldn't do work in this league?

You can't have it both ways dude:facepalm if you are going to say that the rules help one set of players, by definition they make other players less effective in comparison.

Just throwing out names isn't making a case. Otherwise you're just nostalgia blind and everyone should ignore you.

[Sportal]

You don't think PGs like CP3, Rose, Westbrook would be absolute nightmares for teams??

[outbreak]

You can't have it both ways dude:facepalm if you are going to say that the rules help one set of players, by definition they make other players less effective in comparison.

Just throwing out names isn't making a case. Otherwise you're just nostalgia blind and everyone should ignore you.
Half the bigs from previous eras would foul out in the first quarter every game. Can't do nothing in the paint these days without the whistle.

[Real14]

Allan Houston would bust ass in today's league.

[oarabbus]

Only the super fast players penetrate to the hoop now. The bigs are much faster to the ball these days. Fast guys could always get to the hoop in the 90's. Below are two of the few KJ highlights on youtube. Not only does the situation you provide never come into effect, the switches are hideous, and never come into affect. The big men are so slow its like they aren't there. And Hakeem was among the quickest to the ball in the frontcourt.

And these are both playoff games. And KJ isn't top notch quickness/explosiveness vs Rose/Westbrook/Kemba. Those three would definitely be better in the 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-LElKxA2vw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dB_xKFIJgg


This. Imagine Westbrook/Rondo/CP3 in that era. Curry and Parker would do work too.

OP is talking bullshit. Todays SGs wouldn't have the same impact? :oldlol: Tony Allen and Iggy are already all-time defenders, shit it would be straight murder if they played in the 90s. No quarter.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

How would KJ do in today's league?
2nd best PG after CP
might even be the best PG on offense

[oarabbus]

2nd best PG after CP
might even be the best PG on offense

Curry, Westbrook, (Healthy Rpse) >>

[Reggie43]

Likewise those centers wouldn't have the same impact today that they had back then. It goes both ways.

They wouldn't have the same impact if they played amongst themselves under todays rules but if you took for example Ewing in his prime playing todays so called "bigs" he would have a bigger impact as compared to back then.

[Young X]

Curry, Westbrook, (Healthy Rpse) >>KJ > them

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

KJ > them
This
:facepalm :facepalm @ Westbrook or Rose being on KJs level:facepalm :facepalm

Steph is the closest but peak KJ is still clear better. He could run the floor, defend and pass better and he stepped up big time in the playoffs. He was also way better penetration and finishing at the rim/drawing fouls

[ImKobe]

This
:facepalm :facepalm @ Westbrook or Rose being on KJs level:facepalm :facepalm

Steph is the closest but peak KJ is still clear better. He could run the floor, defend and pass better and he stepped up big time in the playoffs. He was also way better penetration and finishing at the rim/drawing fouls

Curry > Westbrook?

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/dahell2.png

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Curry > Westbrook?

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/dahell2.png
OFC way better on offense and Westbrooks defense is mad overrated. The nikka gambles more than a casino

u post on coli nikka:biggums:

[ImKobe]

OFC way better on offense and Westbrooks defense is mad overrated. The nikka gambles more than a casino

u post on coli nikka:biggums:

Nikka please. Westbrook is a much better defender, transition scorer, inside scorer and I'd even go as far as saying a better passer than Curry, who's high assist numbers come from the system Mark Jackson ran there. Plus, Russ came off multiple knee surgeries last year and still put up comparable stats after not seeing much time on the court for a while, Westbrook was so much better in the Playoffs, especially against the Clippers.

Curry vs LAC

24/4/8 on 44/39/88 shooting

Russ vs LAC

28/6/9 on 49/35/88 shooting




u post on coli nikka:biggums:

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/5I5s8.png

[CelticBalla32]

Likewise those centers wouldn't have the same impact today that they had back then. It goes both ways.

The game and its rules change with the talent. If Ewing, Robinson, Shaq and Hakeem were in the NBA in 2014, there is no reason to believe they would be less dominant. That's egregious lol.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Nikka please. Westbrook is a much better defender, transition scorer, inside scorer and I'd even go as far as saying a better passer than Curry, who's high assist numbers come from the system Mark Jackson ran there. Plus, Russ came off multiple knee surgeries last year and still put up comparable stats after not seeing much time on the court for a while, Westbrook was so much better in the Playoffs, especially against the Clippers.

Curry vs LAC

24/4/8 on 44/39/88 shooting

Russ vs LAC

28/6/9 on 49/35/88 shooting



http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/5I5s8.png
he isnt a much better defender........Steph and Russ both couldnt guard CP so Klay and Thabo was checkin him. Steph and Russ both guarded Redick mostly

Steph is a much better overall scorer, hes a better passer GS barely had a system, Steph is alot smarter, patient, wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better shooter. Russ is much better rebounder and better penetrating.

Also for the numbers one player has Kevin Durant taking alot of the defensive attention...............other one has who Klay Thompson and Iguodala??????:biggums: :biggums:

http://i.imgur.com/04eIrTO.png

[ImKobe]

The game and its rules change with the talent. If Ewing, Robinson, Shaq and Hakeem were in the NBA in 2014, there is no reason to believe they would be less dominant. That's egregious lol.

The thing with these dominant bigs is that they force the teams or the league to adapt to their game. If they came in today with these rules, all they need is a bunch of 3pt shooters and one playmaker around them, you give them single coverage against Today's "big men"? :oldlol: Shaq would average 35/15 for a season.

[Stringer Bell]

The elite ones would do fine.