Is this the worst playoff game ever by a top 5 player in the league at the time?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

The player had to be top 5 that year
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html

2-18, 10 TOs, negative defense and they still only lose by 4 because the Cavs support was one of the most stacked defensively/rebounding since the Pistons:applause: :applause:

[imdaman99]

I know the feeling. My main man John Starks also shot 2-18 in game 7 of the NBA Finals :cry:

The difference was, he was not top 5. More like top 50 that year.

[dubeta]

Nah Kobe's 6-24 was still worse


Although its debatable whether he was top 5 in 2010

[Prometheus]

Nah Kobe's 6-24 was still worse


Although its debatable whether he was top 5 in 2010

No it wasn't.

And no it isn't.

[Smook A.]

Nah Kobe's 6-24 was still worse


Although its debatable whether he was top 5 in 2010
You're trying too hard

[kennethgriffin]

am i the only one who thinks kobe had a positive impact in game 7 of the 2010 finals


he held pierce/allen to a combine 8 for 29

he grabbed 15 rebounds

he took 24 shots and scored 23 points.

basically a 50% output since he made up for his poor shooting by getting to the line



:confusedshrug:

[dubeta]

am i the only one who thinks kobe had a positive impact in game 7 of the 2010 finals


he held pierce/allen to a combine 8 for 29

he grabbed 15 rebounds

he took 24 shots and scored 23 points.

basically a 50% output since he made up for his poor shooting by getting to the line



:confusedshrug:

Getting bailed by refs and awarded freethrows doesnt impress me and it shouldnt impress you. Lakers were down big in the 3rd and then refs gave them FT's


Heres the important facts

Kobe made 12 points from field goals in his Game 7

LeBron made 29 points from field goals from his Game 7

All this while Kobe shot 1 MORE shot

So Kobe needed 1 MORE shot to score less than half of LeBrons points :eek: :facepalm

[La Frescobaldi]

am i the only one who thinks kobe had a positive impact in game 7 of the 2010 finals


he held pierce/allen to a combine 8 for 29

he grabbed 15 rebounds

he took 24 shots and scored 23 points.

basically a 50% output since he made up for his poor shooting by getting to the line



:confusedshrug:

He blatantly stole from Gasol that year and everybody saw it except for those who worship blindly.

[Cocaine80s]

Nah Durant's was worse.

5-21 in 49 minutes :roll:

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400553071

shut down by a 6'4 guard

[Bandito]

Nah Kobe's 6-24 was still worse


Although its debatable whether he was top 5 in 2010
2-18 FG% 0.111

[JT123]

Getting bailed by refs and awarded freethrows doesnt impress me and it shouldnt impress you. Lakers were down big in the 3rd and then refs gave them FT's


Heres the important facts

Kobe made 12 points from field goals in his Game 7

LeBron made 29 points from field goals from his Game 7

All this while Kobe shot 1 MORE shot

So Kobe needed 1 MORE shot to score less than half of LeBrons points :eek: :facepalm
ether.

[ballinhun8]

Cavs.....STACKED.



Beta James.

[StephHamann]

The player had to be top 5 that year
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html

2-18, 10 TOs, negative defense and they still only lose by 4 because the Cavs support was one of the most stacked defensively/rebounding since the Pistons:applause: :applause:

Ray Allen 37 Minutes and 0!! Points, wow my ***** Hibbert would be proud

[dynasty1978]

2-18 is pretty pathetic. Now get this, he followed that gem with a 6/24 of his own in the very next game.

Thant's right folks, a combined 8/42 in consecutive playoff games. Easy candidate for worst back-to-back performances by an all time great.

:bowdown:

[Kblaze8855]

Bob Cousy and Bill Sharman went a combined 5-40 in a finals game 7. Both were all NBA first team...and Cousy was the MVP.

They won anyway because of Bill Russell and Tommy Heinson. But still....

[Fudge]

LMFAOOO 2/18 :roll:

[Inferno]

Nah Kobe's 6-24 was still worse


Although its debatable whether he was top 5 in 2010

Just stop

[rule1223]

sub in any d-leaguer in that game and he wouldve done better

[Stringer Bell]

Getting bailed by refs and awarded freethrows doesnt impress me and it shouldnt impress you. Lakers were down big in the 3rd and then refs gave them FT's


Heres the important facts

Kobe made 12 points from field goals in his Game 7

LeBron made 29 points from field goals from his Game 7

All this while Kobe shot 1 MORE shot

So Kobe needed 1 MORE shot to score less than half of LeBrons points :eek: :facepalm

Kobe's performance in game 7 in 2010 for the most part was poor. I do credit the Celtics D as well, but quite a few of those Kobe shots were just bad shot selection rather than the Celtics playing great D. Not misses that just happened in the flow of the offense or amazing D, just bad shot selection.

Although most players in that game shot poorly. Kobe did have a good 4th quarter and rebounded well. Kobe haters will say it was like the worst performance ever and some of his gay fanbase will try to excuse his poor shot selection which played a part in them needing a good comeback to win.

Of course the truth is in the middle.

As for the OP, I can't think of any worse performance off the top of my head. Bron had some other real stinkers too in 2010 (Boston Gm 5) and 2011 (Dallas Gm 4)

[Fudge]

AND he followed it up the next year with the absolute worst playoff game/series by an apparent Top 10 player. :oldlol:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Ray Allen 37 Minutes and 0!! Points, wow my ***** Hibbert would be proud
Ray Allen was so inconsistent in Boston, so overrated
he had tons of shit games which is why the Cs didnt dominate the early rounds in 08
KG was by far their best and most consistent player when u factor both sides of the ball

[tpols]

LMFAOOO 2/18 :roll:

On pace for 6-54 :eek:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Bob Cousy and Bill Sharman went a combined 5-40 in a finals game 7. Both were all NBA first team...and Cousy was the MVP.

They won anyway because of Bill Russell and Tommy Heinson. But still....
Neither were top 5 players that year
Pettit, Russell, Dolph, Johnston and Arizin were better

[fpliii]

Call me a hater if you will, but was 07-08 LeBron a top 5 player?

KG, Kobe, and CP3 are locks. Is LeBron one of the next best two guys that season

Maybe I'm just underrating him pre 08-09. :confusedshrug:

[fpliii]

Neither were top 5 players that year
Pettit, Russell, Dolph, Johnston and Arizin were better
Cousy won MVP that year though.

[Young X]

He was 8/42 with 17 turnovers combined in the 1st 2 games of that series.




51 wasted possessions :biggums:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Cousy won MVP that year though.
Rose won it 2011 he wasnt a top 5 player:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: Neither was Wes Unseld:confusedshrug:
in hindsight we know Cousy wasnt that important to the Cs

[Warfan]

Near quadruple double :bowdown:


AND he followed it up the next year with the absolute worst playoff game/series by an apparent Top 10 player. :oldlol:

Wrong year you autistic fgt

[dubeta]

Call me a hater if you will, but was 07-08 LeBron a top 5 player?

KG, Kobe, and CP3 are locks. Is LeBron one of the next best two guys that season

Maybe I'm just underrating him pre 08-09. :confusedshrug:

Yea I mean its arguable he only had a 30/7/8 season after all :rolleyes: :confusedshrug:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

He was 8/42 with 17 turnovers combined in the 1st 2 games of that series.




:biggums:
that KG defense:pimp: :pimp:

last year of his prime doe such a shame cuz 09 was shaping good till injuryhttp://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/tocry.png

[JT123]

Call me a hater if you will, but was 07-08 LeBron a top 5 player?

KG, Kobe, and CP3 are locks. Is LeBron one of the next best two guys that season

Maybe I'm just underrating him pre 08-09. :confusedshrug:
If Kobe is a lock then Lebron is as well, considering Lebron has been better than Kobe since the 06-07 season. :confusedshrug:

[fpliii]

Yea I mean its arguable he only had a 30/7/8 season after all :rolleyes: :confusedshrug:
I'm no fan of LeBron's, but I give him plenty of credit from 08-09 on. Prior to that season, he didn't put the effort in on defense.

BTW 30/7/8 means nothing to me, I don't look at box score stats. LeBron might've been top 5 or even the best that season, but points/rebounds/assists don't prove anything for me brah.

[Warfan]

Call me a hater if you will, but was 07-08 LeBron a top 5 player?

KG, Kobe, and CP3 are locks. Is LeBron one of the next best two guys that season

Maybe I'm just underrating him pre 08-09. :confusedshrug:

Easily top 5...

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFe8KUEQdn4

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Call me a hater if you will, but was 07-08 LeBron a top 5 player?

KG, Kobe, and CP3 are locks. Is LeBron one of the next best two guys that season

Maybe I'm just underrating him pre 08-09. :confusedshrug:
theres a massive dropoff after the top 3 but i think he was. Dirk is the only other player id say was better he was equal with CP in their series Dirk was wet but Dallas perimeter defense got murdered by CP

[fpliii]

If Kobe is a lock then Lebron is as well, considering Lebron has been better than Kobe since the 06-07 season. :confusedshrug:
The thing is though dude, you know I'm not trolling here, and while I'm a Lakers fan, I'm not a Kobe stan. If I believed that LeBron was better than Kobe from 06-07 on, don't you think I would've said it?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFe8KUEQdn4
i think that was better game he was still passing nice and his defense was good.

[JT123]

Yea I mean its arguable he only had a 30/7/8 season after all :rolleyes: :confusedshrug:
Hard to take anyone seriously who says that Chris Paul was EVER close to Lebron's level. :lol :lol :lol

[fpliii]

theres a massive dropoff after the top 3 but i think he was. Dirk is the only other player id say was better he was equal with CP in their series Dirk was wet but Dallas perimeter defense got murdered by CP
What about Timmy?

Dirk possibly. I love watching him, but I think his best three years were 09, 10, 11 when he posted up a ton. He did so more in 08, but not as much as he did the next three years.

[Le Shaqtus]

The thing is though dude, you know I'm not trolling here, and while I'm a Lakers fan, I'm not a Kobe stan. If I believed that LeBron was better than Kobe from 06-07 on, don't you think I would've said it?

Don't waste your breath homes.

[fpliii]

Hard to take anyone seriously who says that Chris Paul was EVER close to Lebron's level. :lol :lol :lol
You don't want to take me seriously? That's your business. I've done nothing but responded to your posts in good faith and respectfully. I'd appreciate if you returned the favor, but obviously you're not obligated to do so.

[dubeta]

I'm no fan of LeBron's, but I give him plenty of credit from 08-09 on. Prior to that season, he didn't put the effort in on defense.

BTW 30/7/8 means nothing to me, I don't look at box score stats. LeBron might've been top 5 or even the best that season, but points/rebounds/assists don't prove anything for me brah.

So tell me the 5 players good enough to make you question LeBron's top 5 in the league status please

Everyone except Kobe fans had LeBron as the clear cut best in 2007-2008

[JT123]

I'm no fan of LeBron's, but I give him plenty of credit from 08-09 on. Prior to that season, he didn't put the effort in on defense.

Going by this logic, I guess Kobe wasn't even top 10 in 2012-13. He was a turn style on defense the whole season after all. :confusedshrug:

[SouBeachTalents]

i think that was better game he was still passing nice and his defense was good.

LeBron in the 4th: 2 turnovers, 2 rebounds, ONE shot attempt, no assists, Terry scoring 8 points, 0 points himself

[fpliii]

So tell me the 5 players good enough to make you question LeBron's top 5 in the league status please

Everyone except Kobe fans had LeBron as the clear cut best in 2007-2008
KG was the best player in the league that season. He missed a lot of time, so Kobe or CP3 would be number 1 that year taking into account games played.

I'm not sure who my top 5 would be. LeBron might be in there, but Nash, Dirk, Duncan, Manu could've been as well.

[dubeta]

KG was the best player in the league that season. He missed a lot of time, so Kobe or CP3 would be number 1 that year taking into account games played.

I'm not sure who my top 5 would be. LeBron might be in there, but Nash, Dirk, Duncan, Manu could've been as well.

Wow.


Ok

[fpliii]

Going by this logic, I guess Kobe wasn't even top 10 in 2012-13. He was a turn style on defense the whole season after all. :confusedshrug:
He possibly isn't IMO, but he's not top 5 that year either. Your point?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

What about Timmy?

Dirk possibly. I love watching him, but I think his best three years were 09, 10, 11 when he posted up a ton. He did so more in 08, but not as much as he did the next three years.
Eh Timmy was definitely top 10 but i cant see top 5. I thought Manu was better TBH but he got injured in the playoff which sucks. They beat LA if hes healthy IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7lMkMbImQ

[fpliii]

Wow.


Ok
Dwight too possibly. Not saying they have a better case than LeBron, but if someone mentioned them in their top 5s, I wouldn't bat an eye.

[JT123]

You don't want to take me seriously? That's your business. I've done nothing but responded to your posts in good faith and respectfully. I'd appreciate if you returned the favor, but obviously you're not obligated to do so.
Not trying to start fights by the way. I just think you are letting your dislike for Lebron cloud your judgment.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

LeBron in the 4th: 2 turnovers, 2 rebounds, ONE shot attempt, no assists, Terry scoring 8 points, 0 points himself
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/640/962/d91.gif

[fpliii]

Eh Timmy was definitely top 10 but i cant see top 5. I thought Manu was better TBH but he got injured in the playoff which sucks. They beat LA if hes healthy IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7lMkMbImQ
Manu was great that year. So much of Timmy's value is on defense, and it's hard for me to gauge when he slipped on that end. He was still in his defensive prime the year before, but maybe not in 08.

Not sure if SA beats us if he's healthy though. Even with 100% Manu, it was over in 5 games. It definitely goes 6 or 7 and maybe they win if he's healthy I guess.

[fpliii]

Not trying to start fights by the way. I just think you are letting your dislike for Lebron cloud your judgment.
So let's be clear...you think it's completely unreasonable for someone to have LeBron outside his top 3 that season? Because that's the only thing I've said with any degree of certainty in this thread.

[stalkerforlife]

The player had to be top 5 that year
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html

2-18, 10 TOs, negative defense and they still only lose by 4 because the Cavs support was one of the most stacked defensively/rebounding since the Pistons:applause: :applause:

Absolutely the worst, yes.

[masonanddixon]

To be honest though Lebron always tends to be terrible in the playoffs

[masonanddixon]

Absolutely the worst, yes.

What about his 8 point game against Dallas? lmao

[stalkerforlife]

What about his 8 point game against Dallas? lmao

Too many options.

[masonanddixon]

Too many options.

Good point. He's easily had more shitty games than he has had even decent ones in the postseason

[stalkerforlife]

Good point. He's easily had more shitty games than he has had even decent ones in the postseason

Yep.

Only beaten 4 50+ win teams in the playoffs.

[masonanddixon]

Yep.

Only beaten 4 50+ win teams in the playoffs.


Wow, I didn't even realize that. Really shows how unimpressive he really is beyond the marketing/hype/forcefed 1984-esque buildup of his image.