Knicks will be top 4 east this season.

[Real14]

I bet anybody on this prediction. I bet the knicks will make east finals or better too. Who's down to bet me??? I'm here!

[dubeta]

top 4 for ping pong balls

[J Shuttlesworth]

Bet accepted.

/end thread

Whoever loses gets perma banned, or never shows their face around again

[Real14]

Bet accepted.

/end thread

Whoever loses gets perma banned, or never shows their face around again
Get ready to leave bruh:applause:

[outbreak]

Bet accepted.

/end thread

Whoever loses gets perma banned, or never shows their face around again

stupid bet considering OP has made multiple threads about leaving yet is still here:facepalm

[Milbuck]

You've already made like 7 bets on this shit, with the conditions changing every time..and I'm in like 3 of them.

Make one official bet and stick to it.

[el gringos]

What trade do you see happening? I agree w you that Knicks will be a top 4 team but only because I think Phil makes another trade

[J Shuttlesworth]

Get ready to leave bruh:applause:
I'm getting ready to leave your ass on the doorstep of RealGM

[Real14]

stupid bet considering OP has made multiple threads about leaving yet is still here:facepalm
This is different. This has to deal with a very important bet.

[Real14]

What trade do you see happening? I agree w you that Knicks will be a top 4 team but only because I think Phil makes another trade
Yea man us knicks fans must have faith. A lot of haters tend to forget 2013 and we didn't had phil back then so I have a feeling we are going to handle our business. I want rondo to come but besides idk who we can get but I know phil is going to make it happen for us.

[Smook A.]

I think they'll make the playoffs, but they won't finish as a top 4 team.

[Real14]

I think they'll make the playoffs, but they won't finish as a top 4 team.
We will see. People have to stop overrating those other eastern teams tho. Rose will not survive the whole season.

[Smook A.]

We will see. People have to stop overrating those other eastern teams tho. Rose will not survive the whole season.
I think he will. If he does, Chicago will finish as a Top 2 team IMO

[Real14]

You've already made like 7 bets on this shit, with the conditions changing every time..and I'm in like 3 of them.

Make one official bet and stick to it.
I did but the mods kept deleting those threads.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I did but the mods kept deleting those threads.
Try it again, just don't use any of these words:

"tha, iz, knickz, fakkit, azz, wuz"

[Real14]

Try it again, just don't use any of these words:

"tha, iz, knickz, fakkit, azz, wuz"
I only use two of those words sumtimez you dumb mutha phucka:biggums:

[Milbuck]

I did but the mods kept deleting those threads.
Not this one.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351701

http://i.imgur.com/Zfrw7Gq.png

[Real14]

Not this one.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351701

http://i.imgur.com/Zfrw7Gq.png
Alright, I still bet that.

[Milbuck]

Alright, I still bet that.
Aight, well make this one the official bet for everyone else. Clear conditions, list of all betters, all that shit.

[Real14]

Aight, well make this one the official bet for everyone else. Clear conditions, list of all betters, all that shit.
Cool.

[NugzFan]

You've already made like 7 bets on this shit, with the conditions changing every time..and I'm in like 3 of them.

Make one official bet and stick to it.

my first thought as well.

[NugzFan]

Try it again, just don't use any of these words:

"tha, iz, knickz, fakkit, azz, wuz"

:applause: :applause:

[Real14]

:applause: :applause:
Clapping for his retarded display?? You know I don't say all those words :coleman:

[NugzFan]

Clapping for his retarded display?? You know I don't say all those words :coleman:

lets be honest here...you talk like a moron.

you brought this on yourself with this stupid persona

[Real14]

lets be honest here...you talk like a moron.

you brought this on yourself with this stupid persona
Truth iz truth and that niguh iz not being true and I know you hate me so let's be honest with that.

[Le Shaqtus]

So you're saying that a Knicks team who's only bright spot is only Carmelo and Hardaway Jr., is gonna be top 4, they'll be going against the Cavs, the Heat, the Bulls (Who had a better record than the Knicks without Rose last season), the Raptors, the Wiz (Who you call "the gizzards", despite the fact they're actually a good team), also the Hawks who still had a better record (VERY barely) despite missing Horford.

So for me it goes like this.

1. Cavs
2. Heat/Bulls
3. Heat/Bulls
4. Raptors
5. Hawks
6. Wiz
7. Hornets
8. Knicks

Cavs- LeBron makes any team a contender by himself, am I saying he'll win a chip? No, but he's backed up by a top 10 PG and arguably one of the best PF's in the league, also TT at backup PF and Dion waiters at SG who's a decent shooter. Defense will be an issue but at worst the Cavs will be a second seed.

Heat- Wade and Bosh are going to be a dangerous duo, Bosh will go back to 20+ PPG like he did in Toronto, hopefully Wade will play 50+ games but this Heat team also has Granger, Deng, and McBob who are all solid players.

Bulls- This team without Rose was a 4th seed in the East compared to the Knicks 9th, so I still expect them to be better than the Knicks even if Rose doesn't play, which he will, and if he does it's a no brainer.

Wiz- Wall, Gortat, Beal, Nene, Pierce, and Blair. All awesome players, The Wiz really came into their own last season and had a comfortable 7 game lead on the Knicks going into the post season, with added vets this team will be better.

Raps- I don't really need to explain this one, they even beat out Chicago for the 3rd seed, they're getting a top 4 seed this season.

Hornets- Surprisingly, actually look good this season, Stephenson and Jefferson at the helm will be a dangerous due along with Kemba, they're the only team I see the Knicks passing up.

Best I see is Knicks coming in 7th, because the Pacers are going to miss PG and Hibbert is garbage, and no one knows how the Pistons or Bucks will play out, if Jabari balls out the Bucks could squeak in. These Eastern teams are now more even now LeBron isn't with Wade and Bosh. This Knicks team only Has Melo and Hardaway as valuable players, and Melo doesn't even play defense. I see them making the post season and they're not making any damage, certainly not a top 4 seed.

I'm leaving the Hawks out, hypothetically if they have Horford they should be better than the Knicks, but if Horford gets injured again (and he probably will, he tore his pectorals twice), The Knicks will pass them. So for now I have them ahead of Atlanta.

[inclinerator]

http://i.imgur.com/4twdiIF.gif

[hawksdogsbraves]

So you're saying that a Knicks team who's only bright spot is only Carmelo and Hardaway Jr., is gonna be top 4, they'll be going against the Cavs, the Heat, the Bulls (Who had a better record than the Knicks without Rose last season), the Raptors, the Wiz (Who you call "the gizzards", despite the fact they're actually a good team), also the Hawks who still had a better record despite miss Horford.

So for me it goes like this.

1. Cavs
2. Heat/Bulls
3. Heat/Bulls
4. Raptors
5. Wizards
6. Hornets
7. Knicks

Cavs- LeBron makes any team a contender by himself, am I saying he'll win a chip? No, but he's back up by a top 10 PG and arguably one of the best PF's in the league, also TT at backup PF and Dion waiters at SG who's a decent shooter. Defense will be an issue but at worst the Cavs will be a second seed.

Heat- Wade and Bosh are going to be a dangerous duo, Bosh will go back to 20+ PPG like he did in Toronto, hopefully Wade will play 50+ games but this Heat team also has Granger, Deng, and McBob who are all solid players.

Bulls- This team without Rose was a 4th seed in the East compared to the Knicks 9th, so I still expect them to be better than the Knicks even if Rose doesn't play, which he will, and if he does it's a no brainer.

Wiz- Wall, Gortat, Beal, Nene, Pierce, and Blair. All awesome players, The Wiz really came into their own last season and had a comfortable 7 game lead on the Knicks going into the post season, with added vets this team will be better.

Raps- I don't really need to explain this one, they even beat out Chicago for the 3rd seed, they're getting a top 4 seed this season.

Hornets- Surprisingly, actually look good this season, Stephenson and Jefferson at the helm will be a dangerous due along with Kemba, they're the only team I see the Knicks passing up.

Best I see is Knicks coming in 7th, because the Pacers are going to miss PG and Hibbert is garbage, and no one knows how the Pistons or Bucks will play out, if Jabari balls out the Bucks could squeak in. These Eastern teams are now more even now LeBron isn't with Wade and Bosh. This Knicks team only Has Melo and Hardaway as valuable plays, and Melo doesn't even play defense. I see them making the post season and they're not making any damage, certainly not a top 4 seed.

I'm leaving the Hawks out, hypothetically if they have Horford they should be better than the Knicks, but if Horford gets injured again (and he probably will, he tore his pectorals twice), The Knicks will pass them. So for now I have them ahead of Atlanta.

We finished ahead of the Knicks without Horford, why would we finish behind them once he's healthy? :confusedshrug:

[Le Shaqtus]

We finished ahead of the Knicks without Horford, why would we finish behind them once he's healthy? :confusedshrug:

If the Hawks have Horford they will definitely be ahead of the Knicks and probably a 5th Seed.

I like this Hawks team, but Horford constantly being injured doesn't help, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets some shitty injury again.

They barely beat out the Knicks for the 8th seed, which speaks for how well the Hawks played despite not having they're most important player and how bad the Knicks were that season.

EDIT: for the sake of clarity I'll put the Hawks with a healthy Horford in the rankings

[Sportal]

So do you think the Nets miss out?

Why?

[el gringos]

We finished ahead of the Knicks without Horford, why would we finish behind them once he's healthy? :confusedshrug:


Let's pretend that the raptors (twice), heat, and pacers didn't all lay down for the hawks to beat them in the last 10 games of the year to allow Atlanta to be 1 game better than a Knicks team that was tortures by the dumbassness of Woodson, Felton, and chandler

[Sportal]

Let's pretend that the raptors (twice), heat, and pacers didn't all lay down for the hawks to beat them in the last 10 games of the year to allow Atlanta to be 1 game better than a Knicks team that was tortures by the dumbassness of Woodson, Felton, and chandler

So.. 7 game series, you think you'd beat them..?

[Real14]

Let's pretend that the raptors (twice), heat, and pacers didn't all lay down for the hawks to beat them in the last 10 games of the year to allow Atlanta to be 1 game better than a Knicks team that was tortures by the dumbassness of Woodson, Felton, and chandler
Don't forget how pierce was unclutch on purpose for tha nets that last game too.

[Real14]

Raptors are so overrated here. After 2013 nobody wanna give us a chance but wants to give tha craptors after 2014 a chance??? Stop being hypocrites people:coleman:

[Smook A.]

Raptors are so overrated here. After 2013 nobody wanna give us a chance but wants to give tha craptors after 2014 a chance??? Stop being hypocrites people:coleman:
They have a pretty good team :confusedshrug:

Lowry - Top 10 PG
DeRozan - Top 5 SG

Their supporting cast is nice. Valanciunas, Lou Williams, Ross, Amir Johnson, and Patterson are all good players.

[Le Shaqtus]

Raptors are so overrated here. After 2013 nobody wanna give us a chance but wants to give tha craptors after 2014 a chance??? Stop being hypocrites people:coleman:
You think everyone is overrated except the Knicks :lol

You're not overrated when you get the 3rd seed, of course people will give them a chance.

New York has done nothing to get better, they added Calderon who is a good PG but his defense is terrible, and Dalembert who's pretty crap, J.R only gives a shit about J.R and will shoot the Knicks out of Games. Shumpert is on a downward spiral. Hardaway Jr. is really good, he'll be given a chance to prove himself, and Carmelo is a scoring threat but doesn't play D.

The difference is that the Raptors actually have good players outside of two people, and they have Chemistry. Knicks have neither of those, and that's the difference between a 3rd seed and a 9th seed.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Let's pretend that the raptors (twice), heat, and pacers didn't all lay down for the hawks to beat them in the last 10 games of the year to allow Atlanta to be 1 game better than a Knicks team that was tortures by the dumbassness of Woodson, Felton, and chandler

Yeah of course, the whole league conspired so that the mighty Knicks wouldn't make the playoffs.

Just when you think Knicks fans can't get any more delusional, they come in and try to convince you that the entire damned league got together to **** them out of getting the 8 seed in the East :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

Let's pretend that the raptors (twice), heat, and pacers didn't all lay down for the hawks to beat them in the last 10 games of the year to allow Atlanta to be 1 game better than a Knicks team that was tortures by the dumbassness of Woodson, Felton, and chandler

Lay down ? If the Knicks don't beat the Raptors in April, how to do they get in ? Did they also lay down for the Knicks ? Did Brooklyn also lay down for the Knicks ?

The Knicks lost to the Wizards and Heat before that, both games Melo played absolutely awful basketball.

[JohnFreeman]

I dunno, Melo is the best scorer in the game today

[ballup]

Let's pretend that the raptors (twice), heat, and pacers didn't all lay down for the hawks to beat them in the last 10 games of the year to allow Atlanta to be 1 game better than a Knicks team that was tortures by the dumbassness of Woodson, Felton, and chandler
YA! Let's also not ignore the fact that the Bobcats and the Cavs intentionally lost against the Celtics in order to prevent the Celtics from gaining a top 4 lottery chance. Those scheming bastards! :mad:

[Legends66NBA7]

They have a pretty good team :confusedshrug:

Lowry - Top 10 PG
DeRozan - Top 5 SG

Their supporting cast is nice. Valanciunas, Lou Williams, Ross, Amir Johnson, and Patterson are all good players.

James Johnson too. The guy is called the "equalizer" for a reason. Apparently, Grizzlies fans hated the nickname: http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showtopic=16822&st=0

Plus, I do like the fact that the one guy who can beat up anybody in a fight is on the Raptors, not that I want him to get into one. Just adds some intimidation.

[Le Shaqtus]

I dunno, Melo is the best scorer in the game today

Absolutely not.

[Smook A.]

James Johnson too. The guy is called the "equalizer" for a reason. Apparently, Grizzlies fans hated the nickname: http://boards.grizzliesonline.com/index.php?showtopic=16822&st=0

Plus, I do like the fact that the one guy who can beat up anybody in a fight is on the Raptors, not that I want him to get into one. Just adds some intimidation.
Forgot about him. He'll be a nice player off the bench. Good defender and a decent scorer.

[Legends66NBA7]

Forgot about him. He'll be a nice player off the bench. Good defender and a decent scorer.

He's not a decent scorer. Actually pretty bad at times. Is prone to stop the ball and has a bad 3 point shot.

Basically defensive specialist that can guard SG, SF, and PF occasionally. Can even do well on PG's. His shot blocking is what makes him special. Led the league in blocked 3 points shots last year. His athletic ability can also be used in a number of ways. But on the current team, he'll just be the guy who comes to defend, block shots, set screens and rebound defensively and offensively.

[Real14]

You think everyone is overrated except the Knicks :lol

You're not overrated when you get the 3rd seed, of course people will give them a chance.

New York has done nothing to get better, they added Calderon who is a good PG but his defense is terrible, and Dalembert who's pretty crap, J.R only gives a shit about J.R and will shoot the Knicks out of Games. Shumpert is on a downward spiral. Hardaway Jr. is really good, he'll be given a chance to prove himself, and Carmelo is a scoring threat but doesn't play D.

The difference is that the Raptors actually have good players outside of two people, and they have Chemistry. Knicks have neither of those, and that's the difference between a 3rd seed and a 9th seed.

knicks were 2nd seed tho and advanced further than 14 craptors, try again:coleman:

[Real14]

Absolutely not.
you're in denial right now:lol

[Real14]

Lay down ? If the Knicks don't beat the Raptors in April, how to do they get in ? Did they also lay down for the Knicks ? Did Brooklyn also lay down for the Knicks ?

The Knicks lost to the Wizards and Heat before that, both games Melo played absolutely awful basketball.
yes they actually did, thanks to pierce.

[Le Shaqtus]

you're in denial right now:lol

No one on this board outside of Knicks fans and JF thinks Melo is the best scorer in the league.


knicks were 2nd seed tho and advanced further than 14 craptors, try again:coleman:

Yeah, and I expected the Knicks to be good the following season, they missed the playoffs. I'm assuming the Raps will stay a top 4 seed but anything can happen.

[Legends66NBA7]

yes they actually did, thanks to pierce.

How do you know they did ? Do you have inside source ?

Next time, don't leave it up to other teams to decide your team's fate.

[Real14]

No one on this board outside of Knicks fans and JF thinks Melo is the best scorer in the league.
ask more people and you will find out the truth. We had this debate before about if refs gave melo tha Durant treatment then melo would be scoring champ every damn year.

[Real14]

How do you know they did ? Do you have inside source ?

Next time, don't leave it up to other teams to decide your team's fate.
I watched that game. I seen it all went down especially how pierce was faking to be so unclutch. It was all on twitter that night. You don't think pierce hates tha knicks?:lol

[Smook A.]

I dunno, Melo is the best scorer in the game today
Kevin Durant is the best scorer.

32 ppg is definitely better than 27.4 ppg :oldlol:

Also, 63 TS% > 56 TS%

[JohnFreeman]

Melo da bess

[Real14]

Kevin Durant is the best scorer.

32 ppg is definitely better than 27.4 ppg :oldlol:

Also, 63 TS% > 56 TS%
take away his free throws wise guy.

[Real14]

Melo da bess
niguhz will learn this season:applause:

[Le Shaqtus]

ask more people and you will find out the truth. We had this debate before about if refs gave melo tha Durant treatment then melo would be scoring champ every damn year.

Durant averaged a stellar whole 3 free throws more than Carmelo last season, yeah that's a pretty big gap to over come.

[Smook A.]

take away his free throws wise guy.
Free Throws are still points, and Durant only averaged 3 more than Carmelo. If you were actually wise you'd realize 32 is greater number than 27. There should be no debate over this topic. KD is undeniably the best scorer in the league. Melo is probably #2.

[Real14]

Free Throws are still points, and Durant only averaged 3 more than Carmelo. If you were actually wise you'd realize 32 is greater number than 27. There should be no debate over this topic. KD is undeniably the best scorer in the league. Melo is probably #2.
like I said take away his free throws meaning take away tha ref treatment which melo obviously do not have.

[Le Shaqtus]

Free Throws are still points, and Durant only averaged 3 more than Carmelo. If you were actually wise you'd realize 32 is greater number than 27. There should be no debate over this topic. KD is undeniably the best scorer in the league. Melo is probably #2.

It's 3 free throws, if you took away those 3 points every game last season or just somehow subtract 3 points from PPG total last season, he still averaged more points than Melo. Not only did he average 5 points more his FG% was better too, by 5% (45 vs 50)

[Real14]

Durant averaged a stellar whole 3 free throws more than Carmelo last season, yeah that's a pretty big gap to over come.
don't forget the no calls that melo had, and bullshit offensive fouls melo had, overall the refs kissed Durant's ass wayyyy more than Melo's.

[Legends66NBA7]

I watched that game. I seen it all went down especially how pierce was faking to be so unclutch. It was all on twitter that night.

Even if I'm supposed to take all this as a fact (which it isn't), New York still has to beat them too. So if they layed down for the Hawks, they effectively layed down for the Knicks too.

That's why doesn't make any sense. That's why the previous 70+ games matter before April comes. Don't put yourself in position relying on other teams to help you out.

[Le Shaqtus]

like I said take away his free throws meaning take away tha ref treatment which melo obviously do not have.

Lets do math.

Carmelo Anthony: 27.4 PPG - 7 Free throw attempts = 20.4 PPG

Kevin Durant: 32.0 PPG - 9.9 Free throws attempts = 22.1

If we wanna factor in assists too, Melo averaged 3.1 to Durant's 5.5. Durant as a whole is a better offensive player than Melo, period, the games and the numbers prove it.

[JohnFreeman]

http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/melocompilation.gif

[Le Shaqtus]

http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/melocompilation.gif

This doesn't really prove anything..

[JohnFreeman]

http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/melopierce.gif

[JohnFreeman]

This doesn't really prove anything..
It's not suppose to?

[Le Shaqtus]

It's not suppose to?

Got my eye on you JF.

[Smook A.]

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[JohnFreeman]

Not a single post move was used on that day

[RRR3]

Free Throws are still points, and Durant only averaged 3 more than Carmelo. If you were actually wise you'd realize 32 is greater number than 27. There should be no debate over this topic. KD is undeniably the best scorer in the league. Melo is probably #2.
Number 2 scorer is clearly LeBron (and you could argue hes first on terms of pure ability to score) Melo is 3rd

[G-train]

Depends on Amare

[jimmy77x]

http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/melopierce.gif

Damn niqqa melo abused PP like he was some scrub at the park :lol

[andremiller07]

Now that they got Quincy @cy anything is possible

[JohnFreeman]

Now that they got Quincy @cy anything is possible
tru

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Didnt the knicks get even worse roster wise compared to last year???????
Cavs, Heat, Raps and Wiz will be the top4

[Patrick Chewing]

top 4 for ping pong balls


I'll take that too.

[Real14]

Not a single post move was used on that day
exactly, Durant is not about that life.

[Real14]

Depends on Amare
I feel he will be back especially with guidance from fisher and phil.