Washington Redskins Name Change

[eliteballer]

What are your thoughts on this?

[9erempiree]

It is stupid.

American Indians are not even offended by the name and liberal America is ruining things.

[KyrieTheFuture]

It is stupid.

American Indians are not even offended by the name and liberal America is ruining things.
Huh?

I hope they rename the team to Blackskins

[eliteballer]

It is stupid.

American Indians are not even offended by the name and liberal America is ruining things.

Such a well though-out argument:rolleyes:

[KNOW1EDGE]

Somebody is offended by everything.

We can't change the name of everything that someone is offended by.

Also, the owner of the team gets to decide the name of his team I believe. So if he liked Redskins, they are the Redskins.

If you don't like it, feel free to not attend or watch games.

[AngelEyes]

Just change the name to the "skins" and have a damn football as the logo. such an easy fix.

[zoom17]

Stay the same.

[9erempiree]

The native Indians like the name from what I am hearing. They don't have a problem with it because it pays homage to their people.

Once again, this is the white man's idea of trying to get rid of anything Indian.

[Patrick Chewing]

Huh?

I hope they rename the team to Blackskins


The PC police in this country is probably led by a bunch of 20-somethings who have no clue about the history of this country and all they are trying to do is rewrite history while coming across as complete douchebags.

The logo was even designed by a Native American. And yes, many Native American tribes in this country do not have a problem with the name or the logo.

Just like Mexicans consider themselves "brown" and even tattoo "Brown Pride" on their body, the Redskin name describes skin color. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Nanners]

the writing is on the wall, the name will be changed in the not so distant future. 10 years max, probably closer to 3 or 4 though.

[russwest0]

It would be offensive if we cheered "Ra ra ra, we're the Carolina Negroes!"

[Droid101]

The PC police in this country is probably led by a bunch of 20-somethings who have no clue about the history of this country and all they are trying to do is rewrite history while coming across as complete douchebags.

The logo was even designed by a Native American. And yes, many Native American tribes in this country do not have a problem with the name or the logo.

Just like Mexicans consider themselves "brown" and even tattoo "Brown Pride" on their body, the Redskin name describes skin color. Nothing more, nothing less.
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060806011622/wikiality/images/3/3c/ColbertAlan.png


Why don't we just have a team called the "*****?" Why not?

Where are the San Francisco "Heebs?"

[NumberSix]

Change it to........

"Washington Red's-Kins"

[Patrick Chewing]

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060806011622/wikiality/images/3/3c/ColbertAlan.png


Why don't we just have a team called the "*****?" Why not?

Where are the San Francisco "Heebs?"


Nice try. sp*c and Redskin are not the same as you're trying to imply.

The term "sp*c":

****, spick, ****, spig, or spigotty
a. (US) a person of Hispanic descent. First recorded use in 1915. Theories include from "no sp*c English" (and spiggoty from the Chicano no speak-o t'e English), but common belief is that it is an abbreviation of "Hispanic".

Sp*c refers to ethnicity, not to skin color which Redskin refers to.

[Nanners]

while we are looking up terms in the dictionary....


Redskin - NOUN

DATED or OFFENSIVE
An American Indian.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/redskin

[Patrick Chewing]

And yet those that you would think it would offend, are not.


Change the name to the Washington Natives or Native Americans. Who cares.

The PC pussification of this country is a slow, rotting disease.

[9erempiree]

ESPN already took a poll and 71% is in favor of the name. Dan Snyder owns the team and he likes it too. There will be no changing of the name.

Football fans are pretty hardcore and I don't think anyone will force them to change their name. It is not going to make people stop rooting for the team.

[9erempiree]

One of the stupidest thing ever. Like I mentioned before the Native Americans are quite proud of the name.

[KNOW1EDGE]

This only happens in America.

[9erempiree]

I find it sad that something like this is a non-issue and then we have people that try to turn it into an issue. Suddenly there are so many people with an opinion about it, so they either stand for it or against it. It forces those didn't care before to now care. They are forcing us to choose sides. :facepalm

The Redskins have been in the league for the longest time and why now? Shouldn't it have already been done years ago?

If the NFL players are not offended then I think we should keep the name.

[Nanners]

Shouldn't it have already been done years ago?

yes it should have

[Patrick Chewing]

yes it should have


And why do you think this is an issue now while it wasn't back then?

Are we suddenly wiser than we were before? Did we have some recent revelation or something?

[9erempiree]

yes it should have

Are you Native American?

[Akrazotile]

Just change it to the Whiteskins.

Mascot:

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e8/b0/b3/e8b0b38d3f0b8ed531fe711bac51197f.jpg


Because you know liberals aren't gonna whine about anything that might offend a white person. It wouldn't be cool and contrarian enough. And you'd probably get a ton of regular white folk who would celebrate it and make them their favorite team. So it's a win all around.


Then the libs will have to pick up their base camp and move it over to Minnesota for using an unacceptable term to describe Scandanavian-Americans.

Or perhaps to Jacksonville for creating the perception that Jaguars are fearsome creatures and dangerous to man, when really that's just a misunderstanding and they need to be protected.

Maybe to New England, where they're just using manipulative propaganda to influence their fans that george bush would be proud of.


Rest assured, they WILL find something. There's always something new to complain about, because it creates a feeling of self-importance and power. This has nothing to do with native americans. It has to do with liberals being bored and wanting to flex their power and showing off their moral superiority. It's a flex move. They don't give a shit about Injuns.

[NumberSix]

Are you Native American?
No, probably some white leftist puss-bag that has decided that if natives aren't offended, they should be.

[Nanners]

And why do you think this is an issue now while it wasn't back then?

Are we suddenly wiser than we were before? Did we have some recent revelation or something?

in the espn segment that 9er cited where they recently found that 71% supported the name, they also mentioned that this was down from 80% support just a few years ago. thats a pretty enormous shift, if that poll is representative of the entire american population that would mean ~30 million people have shifted their opinion in the past few years.

so yes, it does seem that we had some sort of recent revelation.

[NumberSix]

Just change it to the Whiteskins. Because you know liberals aren't gonna whine about anything that might offend a white person. It wouldn't be cool and contrarian enough. And you'd probably get a ton of regular white folk who would celebrate it and make them their favorite team.


Then the libs will have to pick up their base camp and move it over to Minnesota for using an unacceptable term to describe Scandanavian-Americans.

Or perhaps to Jacksonville for creating the perception that Jaguars are fearsome creatures and dangerous to man, when really that's just a misunderstanding and they need to be protected.

Maybe to New England, where they're just using manipulative propaganda to influence their fans that george bush would be proud of.


Rest assured, they WILL find something. There's always something new to complain about, because it creates a feeling of self-importance and power. This has nothing to do with native americans. It has to do with liberals being bored and wanting to flex their power and showing off their moral superiority. It's a flex move. They don't give a shit about Injuns.
Lol. Change it to the Washington Potato-Skins. Make the logo a leprechaun mr. potato head holding a beer mug.

[Akrazotile]

in the espn segment that 9er cited where they recently found that 71% supported the name, they also mentioned that this was down from 80% support just a few years ago. thats a pretty enormous shift, if that poll is representative of the entire american population that would mean ~30 million people have shifted their opinion in the past few years.

so yes, it does seem that we had some sort of recent revelation.


:oldlol:


What it means is more people are being guilted by the media's recent focus on it into pretending they care when someone puts them on the spot and asks them about it.


I wonder if you can find the numbers for me about how many Americans are involved in causes that help the real life challenges many native communities face today and how it compares to number from some other year in time.

[9erempiree]

in the espn segment that 9er cited where they recently found that 71% supported the name, they also mentioned that this was down from 80% support just a few years ago. thats a pretty enormous shift, if that poll is representative of the entire american population that would mean ~30 million people have shifted their opinion in the past few years.

so yes, it does seem that we had some sort of recent revelation.

Also, like I mentioned before it is a non-issue that became an issue. It has also opened doors for people that didn't care to now having to choose sides. Guess what? When people start choosing sides, the numbers get shifted.

Liberal America: If you are not offended, we will be offended for you.

Here are similar takes on schools forcing to change their names:


"We have two great tribes here," says Kingston assistant school superintendent Ron Whipkey, "the Chicasaw and the Choctaw. And not one member of those tribes has ever come to me or our school with a complaint. It is a prideful thing to them."

"It's a name that honors the people," says Kingston English teacher Brett Hayes, who is Choctaw. "The word 'Oklahoma' itself is Choctaw for 'red people.' The students here don't want it changed. To them, it seems like it's just people who have no connection with the Native American culture, people out there trying to draw attention to themselves.

"My kids are really afraid we're going to lose the Redskin name. They say to me, 'They're not going to take it from us, are they, Dad?'"

Too late. White America has spoken. You aren't offended, so we'll be offended for you.


Same story with the Red Mesa (Ariz.) High School Redskins. They wear the name with fierce pride. They absolutely don't see it as an insult. But what do they know? The student body is only 99.3 percent Native American.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9689220/redskins-name-change-not-easy-sounds

[9erempiree]

Oklahoma means red skin.

Can't wait to see what some people's take on that is.

[Swaggin916]

That name would never fly if brought up these days... so time to get rid of it.

Being politically correct comes with leadership of a lot of people.

[Patrick Chewing]

in the espn segment that 9er cited where they recently found that 71% supported the name, they also mentioned that this was down from 80% support just a few years ago. thats a pretty enormous shift, if that poll is representative of the entire american population that would mean ~30 million people have shifted their opinion in the past few years.

so yes, it does seem that we had some sort of recent revelation.

You don't think that has anything to do with how politically correct this country has become as of late?


Remember, the media wasn't what it was 30 or 40 years ago. And many football fans of 30 and 40 years ago are still alive and well.

[ace23]

If a word bothers you, you are a horrible horrible tw@t.

Pretty simple
Look, a white man telling people not to get offended by racial slurs. :roll:

[Sarcastic]

It'll be changed. Dan Fcuktard is holding the name ransom atm, till he gets the tax payers to buy him a new stadium to replace his 17 year old stadium.

[JohnFreeman]

White males are the most hated

[9erempiree]

I can't believe the people that agrees with a name change. You guys are sports fans too.:facepalm

[Nanners]

It'll be changed. Dan Fcuktard is holding the name ransom atm, till he gets the tax payers to buy him a new stadium to replace his 17 year old stadium.

bingo

[Akrazotile]

It'll be changed. Dan Fcuktard is holding the name ransom atm, till he gets the tax payers to buy him a new stadium to replace his 17 year old stadium.


Complains about the name redskins.

Uses a variation of the word retard.



Talk about corrupt police. The PC Police is as bad as any of em! :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

Complains about the name redskins.

Uses a variation of the word retard.



Talk about corrupt police. The PC Police is as bad as any of em! :oldlol:

pwned.

[JohnFreeman]

Complains about the name redskins.

Uses a variation of the word retard.



Talk about corrupt police. The PC Police is as bad as any of em! :oldlol:
http://i.imgur.com/NV8ug3n.gif

[Lakers Legend#32]

It's embarrassing they still have this racist name. :facepalm

[Norcaliblunt]

I don't know what's worse and more *****, people who get offended or those who get offended by people getting offended? Lol.

[Dresta]

in the espn segment that 9er cited where they recently found that 71% supported the name, they also mentioned that this was down from 80% support just a few years ago. thats a pretty enormous shift, if that poll is representative of the entire american population that would mean ~30 million people have shifted their opinion in the past few years.

so yes, it does seem that we had some sort of recent revelation.
:lol

Someone doesn't understand polling. 9% is such a small shift that it could have been affected simply by the phrasing of the question, or simply be the difference between two separate sample sizes. The only thing the polling data implies is that people in general don't give a shit about bowing to some pc whim and changing the name of their team to appease a bunch of patronising and ahistorical dweebs who blare their pathetic anti-racist ideology day-and-night to make them feel better about their own moral and historical inadequacy. What a load of childish bullshit.

[Nanners]

:lol

Someone doesn't understand polling. 9% is such a small shift that it could have been affected simply by the phrasing of the question, or simply be the difference between two separate sample sizes. The only thing the polling data implies is that people in general don't give a shit about bowing to some pc whim and changing the name of their team to appease a bunch of patronising and ahistorical dweebs who blare their pathetic anti-racist ideology day-and-night to make them feel better about their own moral and historical inadequacy. What a load of childish bullshit.

assuming a decent sample size and assuming that the question was worded identically both times (in other words, assuming the pollsters had any clue what they are doing), 9% is not a small shift and is well outside the margin of error.

[Dresta]

Look, a white man telling people not to get offended by racial slurs. :roll:
You are saying a man's opinion is worth less due to the colour of his skin. That is racism i believe. You do not earn special privileges of opinion simply based on the colour of your skin; sorry, but you don't, and conferring them is being both racist and terribly conceited.

[JohnFreeman]

You are saying a man's opinion is worth less due to the colour of his skin. That is racism i believe. You do not earn special privileges of opinion simply based on the colour of your skin; sorry, but you don't, and conferring them is being both racist and terribly conceited.
This. How dumb is ace?

[Sarcastic]

Complains about the name redskins.

Uses a variation of the word retard.



Talk about corrupt police. The PC Police is as bad as any of em! :oldlol:


When did I ever say I was PC, you fcuktard?

[ROCSteady]

Just change the name to the "skins" and have a damn football as the logo. such an easy fix.

how bout "no" you idealistic f a g

[ROCSteady]

:applause: to the OP and all you compassionate intellectuals who have ESPN and are capable of watching Outside The Lines! You guys surely are the impassioned change that this country needs :bowdown:


See you all at the Redskins games picketing & later on Capitol Hill!

Beers on me, you bros rock!



:cheers:

[longtime lurker]

Rofl a bunch of dipshits in this thread. How dare people try to change a name that demeans a people that have been systemically discriminated against and disenfranchised. They should change the name to the Washington hooked noses. I'm sure Dan Snyder would have no problem with that.

[StephHamann]

Washington Choco-Naggers

:applause:

[9erempiree]

I really don't think people are offended. It is a bunch of liberals trying to stir up the pot in order to erase any attachment to Native Americans. If the Washington Redskins changed their name, just wait and watch all these schools start to change their names. Next thing you know it, Indians and Chiefs, will soon be gone.

The big plan is get rid of any association with Indians.

It's sad to see the sheeps fall for this.

I am not sure why the Native Americans are not protesting this since so many are proud of that name.

Red skin is a term they use to call the Natives because of their applied, red war paint.

[eliteballer]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/washington-redskins-merchandise-sales-tanking-amid-nickname-controversy-152600988.html

[NuggetsFan]

I never have nor will ever really give a shit if they change it. Everytime this conversation comes up tho it's hilarious how little respect Natives. People preach that only white ******* or whatever care but couldn't be further from the truth because if those people gave a shit the name would have already been changed :confusedshrug:

I'm all for Redskins fans not wanting to change that name. Atleast come out and say you realize it's ignorant to some people and just don't care if they find it offensive tho. You wouldn't walk into a bar and call a group of Natives "redskins" even if 60% of them didn't care, some can take it as a slur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE

That was posted by the National Congress of American Indians. Discussion isn't if it's right or wrong, it's how much you give a shit just how wrong it is.

[Blue&Orange]

It is stupid.

American Indians are not even offended by the name and liberal America is ruining things.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler/native-americans-offended-by-racial-slur#208q5ex

5 seconds google search, average time it takes to make a republican look like the ignorant rednecks they are.

[Blue&Orange]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U2IqXEvSM


Native american shutting down republican rednecks. :roll:


Pretty sure he likes the redskin name

[JtotheIzzo]

What are your thoughts on this?


word police are out of control.

its not interpreted as anything negative.

[ROCSteady]

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-06/4/16/enhanced/webdr07/enhanced-25021-1401914394-11.jpg

:banana:

[dude77]

lol so now I'm hearing newspapers are banning 'redskins' and their logo .. announcers won't say redskins .. and redskins merchandise isn't selling as well ... wonder if this will persuade snyder at all ..

redskins isn't offensive at all imo .. it's highly debatable where the name came from to begin with .. was it used to refer to indians in general ? .. was it used to refer to a specific tribe that used red paint ? .. I've heard all kinds of shit ..

and when you think of 'redskins', you don't even think 'indians' .. you don't use the word to refer to indians or to mock indians or to do anything with indians .. you think 'nfl football team' .. nothing more nothing less .. at this point, trying to change it is just looking for something to get outraged and offended by .. just bullshit

[Akrazotile]

I nting to change that name. Atleast come out and say you realize it's ignorant to some people and just don't care if they find it offensive tho. You wouldn't walk into a bar and call a group of Natives "redskins" even if 60% of them didn't care, some can take it as a slur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE

That was posted by the National Congress of American Indians. Discussion isn't if it's right or wrong, it's how much you give a shit just how wrong it is.


You wouldnt go to Sweden and call people there Vikings. Do we need a name change in Minnesota, too?

Its dumb to assume everyone in Pittsburgh works in a steel factory. Name change?


Not everyone who plays for Cleveland is African American, do we have to stop calling them the Browns?



Get a grip bro. Its a fukking nickname. Weenies are wetting their pants bc thats what they do.

[Akrazotile]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U2IqXEvSM


Native american shutting down republican rednecks. :roll:


Pretty sure he likes the redskin name


The only time this poster ever touches a vag1na is when he masturb@tes.