Switch 96-99 Karl Malone and 11-14 Bran

[Ca$H]

Who wins more titles?

Bran on the Jazz in 96, 97, 98, and 99. Bran wins zero titles.

Malone on the Heat in 11, 12, 13, and 14. Malone wins in 11, 12, and 13.

Discuss.

[JohnFreeman]

Malone is a career loser

[Meticode]

If Mr. James thought he was shaking his head when Kawhi Leonard was checking in, he'd probably hurl when Rodman would check back in.

[Megabox!]

If Mr. James thought he was shaking his head when Kawhi Leonard was checking in, he'd probably hurl when Rodman would check back in.
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[dubeta]

Put MJ in 11-14 Heat and they win 0


Put LeBron on 91-94 Bulls they win 4 as LeBron wouldnt have quit in 94 to play baseball

[Ca$H]

Put MJ in 11-14 Heat and they win 0


Put LeBron on 91-94 Bulls they win 4 as LeBron wouldnt have quit in 94 to play baseball

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[Nowitness]

Put MJ in 11-14 Heat and they win 0


Put LeBron on 91-94 Bulls they win 4 as LeBron wouldnt have quit in 94 to play baseball

replace lebron with the corpse of wilt chamberlain and they win in 2011.


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[MP.Trey]

It's kind of unfair switching anyone with Malone those years tbh. Any player in the consensus top 12 or so would not beat Jordan's Bulls during those years if put in Malone's place imo. The lockout year is a different story. But I do agree with the point that Karl would win at least 2/4 with Bosh & Wade.

[JT123]

What the hell is Malone gonna against the Pacers in 12 when Bosh goes down for the series and Wade is playing on one knee? :roll:
Is Malone gonna put up 40/18/9 in game 4? Is he gonna have duplicate Lebron's game 6 in Boston? The answer is NO!
Malone was a regular season Warrior with ZERO signature playoff games. His career is pretty pathetic when you really think about it. :lol :lol

[JT123]

It's kind of unfair switching anyone with Malone those years tbh. Any player in the consensus top 12 or so would not beat Jordan's Bulls during those years if put in Malone's place imo. The lockout year is a different story. But I do agree with the point that Karl would win at least 2/4 with Bosh & Wade.
:biggums: Malone was a joke in both of those Finals! :facepalm
If he makes those free throws in game 1 of the 97 Finals, and doesn't allow Jordan to strip him in game 6, the Jazz would have been the back to back Champions. Let's stop acting as if Malone was some dominant force in those Finals who was let down by his teammates. Malone is THE reason Utah didn't win those Finals series, period.

[Papaya Petee]

What the hell is Malone gonna against the Pacers in 12 when Bosh goes down for the series and Wade is playing on one knee? :roll:
Is Malone gonna put up 40/18/9 in game 4? Is he gonna have duplicate Lebron's game 6 in Boston? The answer is NO!
Malone was a regular season Warrior with ZERO signature playoff games. His career is pretty pathetic when you really think about it. :lol :lol
2012 vs Pacers? The same series where Wade averaged 26/6/4 including a 30/9/6 game 22 point 2nd half that same game Lebron put up 40/18/9? A 28 point game in a blowout game 5? And CRAZY closing game 6 where Wade had 41/10/4? Wade wasnt on one knee yet in 2012 Dont rewrite history. Boston series is a different topic though Malone would have no chance.

[Angel Face]

2 - 3 but Bran of the Jazz won't win a single chip.

[MP.Trey]

:biggums: Malone was a joke in both of those Finals! :facepalm
If he makes those free throws in game 1 of the 97 Finals, and doesn't allow Jordan to strip him in game 6, the Jazz would have been the back to back Champions. Let's stop acting as if Malone was some dominant force in those Finals who was let down by his teammates. Malone is THE reason Utah didn't win those Finals series, period.
That's the difference between you & I. You see Malone as the reason the Jazz lost, I see Jordan as the reason the Bulls won. Those Bulls teams were as close to unbeatable as you get since the Russell Celtics imo.

[JT123]

2012 vs Pacers? The same series where Wade averaged 26/6/4 including a 30/9/6 game 22 point 2nd half that same game Lebron put up 40/18/9? A 28 point game in a blowout game 5? And CRAZY closing game 6 where Wade had 41/10/4? Wade wasnt on one knee yet in 2012 Dont rewrite history. Boston series is a different topic though Malone would have no chance.
Wade came on late in that Indiana series, but was god awful for the first 3.5 games. Have you forgotten about his 5 point game 3 performance? :facepalm
Despite Wade's incredible game 4 second half, the Heat still wouldn't have come close to winning that game without Bron's 40/18/9. The fact remains that Malone doesn't have a single signature playoff performance, so I have no reason to believe he would replicate Lebron's success. :confusedshrug:

[JT123]

That's the difference between you & I. You see Malone as the reason the Jazz lost, I see Jordan as the reason the Bulls won. Those Bulls teams were as close to unbeatable as you get since the Russell Celtics imo.
Those 97 and 98 teams weren't even close to being unbeatable. :oldlol: That's that Jordan mythology coming into play. In the 97 Finals game 2 was the ONLY game that the Bulls won comfortably. Every other game came down to a few plays, and could have EASILY gone either way. In 98 the Jazz could have pushed the Bulls to a 7th game if Malone could have just held onto the ball, but I guess that is asking too much of a supposed all time great? :rolleyes: I seriously doubt the Bulls win a game 7 in Utah, seeing as road teams almost never win game 7's in the Finals.
Malone performed well below his season averages in both years, so I don't know how you can absolve him of blame. :no:

[MP.Trey]

Those 97 and 98 teams weren't even close to being unbeatable. :oldlol: That's that Jordan mythology coming into play. In the 97 Finals game 2 was the ONLY game that the Bulls won comfortably. Every other game came down to a few plays, and could have EASILY gone either way. In 98 the Jazz could have pushed the Bulls to a 7th game if Malone could have just held onto the ball, but I guess that is asking too much of a supposed all time great? :rolleyes: I seriously doubt the Bulls win a game 7 in Utah, seeing as road teams almost never win game 7's in the Finals.
Malone performed well below his season averages in both years, so I don't know how you can absolve him of blame. :no:
Russell's Celtics were pushed to the brink in similar ways many times. When two teams with near equal supporting casts meet up, the better, stronger willed alpha dog on a team wins the series 9/10 times. Despite the circumstances. I'm not absolving Malone of any guilt, but I'm not sure any other player would get them over the hill and most would receive the same flak Malone got, especially if they went ringless the rest of their career.

[Ca$H]

Those 97 and 98 teams weren't even close to being unbeatable. :oldlol: That's that Jordan mythology coming into play. In the 97 Finals game 2 was the ONLY game that the Bulls won comfortably. Every other game came down to a few plays, and could have EASILY gone either way. In 98 the Jazz could have pushed the Bulls to a 7th game if Malone could have just held onto the ball, but I guess that is asking too much of a supposed all time great? :rolleyes: I seriously doubt the Bulls win a game 7 in Utah, seeing as road teams almost never win game 7's in the Finals.
Malone performed well below his season averages in both years, so I don't know how you can absolve him of blame. :no:

Instead of blaming Malone why don't you give credit to Rodman? Don't act like Bran wouldn't struggle in place of Malone.

[MagnumT/A]

Those 97 and 98 teams weren't even close to being unbeatable. :oldlol: That's that Jordan mythology coming into play. In the 97 Finals game 2 was the ONLY game that the Bulls won comfortably. Every other game came down to a few plays, and could have EASILY gone either way. In 98 the Jazz could have pushed the Bulls to a 7th game if Malone could have just held onto the ball, but I guess that is asking too much of a supposed all time great? :rolleyes: I seriously doubt the Bulls win a game 7 in Utah, seeing as road teams almost never win game 7's in the Finals.
Malone performed well below his season averages in both years, so I don't know how you can absolve him of blame. :no:

To be fair, you have to remember Malone did have The Worm guarding him too

[JT123]

Instead of blaming Malone why don't you give credit to Rodman? Don't act like Bran wouldn't struggle in place of Malone.
Lebron might struggle against Rodman, we will never know. What we do know is that if Lebron struggled against Rodman he would be held accountable for it. Why is it that no one ever wants to hold Malone accountable for his failures? :confusedshrug: Even if you want to say Jordan and the Bulls were too much, the Jazz still had some very good teams for a few years after the Bulls broke up, and once again Malone went ghost in several key playoff games/moments. That is why I don't believe he would win any rings on the Heat in place of Lebron. Joke about how supposedly stacked the Heat were all you want, but they still needed several big playoff performances from Lebron to get their rings. Performances I NEVER saw from Malone.

[Stringer Bell]

The 1998 Bulls were FAR from unbeatable.

They were aging, bench was weaker (the 97' team had Brian Williams/Bison Dele who helped a lot), Rodman was showing his age and decline.

Barely made it past Indiana to get to the finals.

They were probably the weakest of their finals teams, even if they had better regular season records than the 91' and 93' teams.

[aj1987]

Wade came on late in that Indiana series, but was god awful for the first 3.5 games. Have you forgotten about his 5 point game 3 performance? :facepalm
Despite Wade's incredible game 4 second half, the Heat still wouldn't have come close to winning that game without Bron's 40/18/9. The fact remains that Malone doesn't have a single signature playoff performance, so I have no reason to believe he would replicate Lebron's success. :confusedshrug:
Wade put up 27/3/4/1/2 in the first two games.

LeBron might win 1-2 rings. Malone on the Heat? If they get past the Bulls in '11, the Heat win. No way in hell are the Heat winning against the Celtics in '12, the Pacers in '13, and Spurs in '14.

[riseagainst]

Wade put up 27/3/4/1/2 in the first two games.

LeBron might win 1-2 rings. Malone on the Heat? If they get past the Bulls in '11, the Heat win. No way in hell are the Heat winning against the Celtics in '12, the Pacers in '13, and Spurs in '14.

I think he would get pass the Pacers.

[Genaro]

Wade put up 27/3/4/1/2 in the first two games.

LeBron might win 1-2 rings. Malone on the Heat? If they get past the Bulls in '11, the Heat win. No way in hell are the Heat winning against the Celtics in '12, the Pacers in '13, and Spurs in '14.
Why not? Those teams took Heat to the brink because Heat had no inside presence. Malone would fulfill that gap.
I don't think they win in 14 though.

[aj1987]

Why not? Those teams took Heat to the brink because Heat had no inside presence. Malone would fulfill that gap.
I don't think they win in 14 though.
Do you think Malone would drop 34/11/4/1/1 on 59% against the Celtics? LeBron's perimeter defense as well.


I think he would get pass the Pacers.
Not with Bosh playing like shit and Wade being injured. LeBron was hitting his jumpers that series he shot 44% of his 3's on 5 attempts a game.